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For your own good dont ignore.

We are starting to get more foolish members who think they are being clever by creating aliases to by pass bans in Forum and chat room.
Reason is why im calling them foolish is we will always have the upperhand ,we only used to keep banning these accounts and lengthining their main banned one which we now consider to soft .
SM will now start taking action against these members with in game punishment which some banned members are now finding out and not to happy.
SM will decide what type of action they deem appropriate which can be loss of manager rep so could result in you getting slung out of certain set ups .
Now hopefully with this announcement it may stop having to take this action because we dont want to see anyone losing rep /teams etc .

http://forum.soccermanager.com/showthread.php?t=37199

This link above if members had cared to read on rule board tells you how to go about appealing against any sort of punishment you occur .
Will find one for chat users on there as well .

So keep to it because if you think your being a clever clogs to get around a ban which at most lasts one day or a week ,is it worth getting kicked out of GM because of Rep and loosing favourite team that you love the most ,if your not a GM the same risks apply .

Choice is yours to make freely without pressure .
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SM Filter system ( Rule 18 .)

Due to the complaints from members saying they get infractioned for starred out words and some members do not so SM Supervisors/Moderators need to be on the same wave length,to them its got to be one ruling only so confusion is not caused ,also with complaints recieved from members that some deem its ok to insult them with starred out words because there not actually shown,all these complaints have been taken into consideration and it has been decided that seems the filter removed these unwanted words ,then the poster will re edit and change words if not wanting infraction ,also dont play word games to beat the system,
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its sucking fhit. The people who make these rules are cunning stunts.

Also these.
"£%^$£!*&"
@ssed
We are not stupid as well as the members that do these,there no accident they are in place of what are not allowed
I am sure there are many more correct allowed words that can take the place of these ,plus it keeps posts looking more neat and tidy .


From now Mods will give you a warning without loss of points ,if do it again you will lose points ,from Ist March you will not get a warning just loss of points ,only members we will look at to overturn are them that join in March to give them the same chance you members are being given to get your own house in order.









because from 1st March all starred words will recieve infraction .Please check rule 18.
Thank you .
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New Forum/Chat Rules and Violation procedures.

It is in all members interest who use Forum/chat to check the new additions on ,
SM Forum / Chat rules/regulations / Violation procedures and Supervisor announcements.

There are updates on Rules and a great guide on what procedures happens to you if you violate any of rules for both rooms .

Thank-you.

Can all SM Moderators please check on the Moderators board the new procedures theirselves if they already have not .
Thank you .
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Grievance with Moderators .

All members that have any problems/issues with Moderators closing / editing / deleting threads that they have posted etc or infractions given to them by Moderators then do not throw tantrums on the board itself via another thread or through PM system to the Moderator,it will not help your case if you want to have it re-looked at by SM Supervisors ,because Moderators are only doing what they have been instructed to do ,yes a thread may not have needed to be closed etc ,but closed /deleted threads can always be re-opened ,infractions can always be overturned ,so if your not happy with any of the above by SM Moderator ,i suggest you check all Forum rules /Guidelines and all rules for Rep system because these rule breakages also can result in infractions ,if you have not broken any of these then send your complaint through PM System to a SM Supervisor because we are your next port of call .
Please do not take it to the boards for any discussions on the rights or wrongs .
We will decide if we need to overturn any decision a Mod makes and that is through private consultation .
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Infraction System

From Saturday 20/9/08 the SM Moderators will begin having the use of the Infraction system which up to now as only been used by SM Supervisors.
The way the infraction system works is you will get punished on type of post / rule breakage etc ,this is what you can be punished for .

Title
Warning for Rule Violation
Spammed Advertisements
Insulted Other Member(s)
Signature Rule Violation
Inappropriate Language
Instant Ban 10pts

I would also highly recommend members take a look at
" Forum reputation system thread"
so you learn how to use the Reputation system properly because any of these rules violated will also incur infraction penalty.



How infractions work.
There is a certain set ammount of point depending on which one so please be aware they are not just 1.
Also if you accumalate 10 then you will be auto banned ,each time you are given an infraction that point/points lasts for 10dys .
Also a SM Supervisor/Moderator may deem to give person/persons a instant 10pt ban if they think they need a cooling period for heating threads or out of control arguments ,again this can last from 1 hour up to a day then it will be removed.
Please realise this starts from Saturday 20/9/08 so no good complaining if someone got away with it before that date for the same reason you may have recieved one from this.
This forwarns you all so there is no excuse,ive shown you above what warrents a breakage of the system.

If a SM Supervisor/SM Moderator gives you an infraction then you will also at the same time receive a PM why and which one you deemed to have broken so you can check yourself .
Members that are not happy please do not send PM back to the Moderator that gave you it because the only way to appeal and have it reversed is through SM Supervisor ,and our decision will be final.
The best thing you can do before appealing is check you did not break any of the above ,because you will need a very good reason to have it overturned if you did.
Thank-you for your co-operation.
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Please use the search tool before posting!!!

With the forum having been going for quite some time, many players have been discussed at least once.

As such, before creating a thread to talk about a player's rating, PLEASE first use the search facility

This will save you time and effort, repeats will just be closed or deleted.
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    4 Awesome Brazilians
    Do they deserve to grow up in next review (i personally think they do but want your opinions)?
    What is their future potential?
    I guesee Neymar 99 Ganso 93 Emboaba 94 and Lucas 94
    But as i said your opinions?
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    Re: Neymar Ganso Emboaba and Lucas

    Originally posted by Jay Gonzanez forever View Post
    4 Awesome Brazilians
    Do they deserve to grow up in next review (i personally think they do but want your opinions)?
    What is their future potential?
    I guesee Neymar 99 Ganso 93 Emboaba 94 and Lucas 94
    But as i said your opinions?
    Worst prediction ever...

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      Re: Neymar Ganso Emboaba and Lucas

      I don't think Ganso is that good, I think he's already fulfilled his potential. He seems like he has considered himself a star now and has stopped trying to progress.

      Neymar will probably reach no more than 91 if he stays in Brazil.

      Oscar will probably get 88/89 and Lucas an 89/90, depending on when the ratings actually change.

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        Re: Neymar Ganso Emboaba and Lucas

        Originally posted by Jay Gonzanez forever View Post
        4 Awesome Brazilians
        Do they deserve to grow up in next review (i personally think they do but want your opinions)?
        What is their future potential?
        I guesee Neymar 99 Ganso 93 Emboaba 94 and Lucas 94
        But as i said your opinions?
        well you can`t really predict their "future potential". IMO they are all overhyped. If I were a very rich russian who owns a club i would buy them in this order:

        1 Oscar
        2 Neymar
        3 Ganso
        4 Lucas

        And my imaginary character would pay over 20 mil just for Oscar

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          Re: Neymar Ganso Emboaba and Lucas

          Originally posted by Jay Gonzanez forever View Post
          4 Awesome Brazilians
          Do they deserve to grow up in next review (i personally think they do but want your opinions)?
          What is their future potential?
          I guesee Neymar 99 Ganso 93 Emboaba 94 and Lucas 94
          But as i said your opinions?
          WOW you have truely fallen for the HYPE and then some...

          Ganso will never be a 90, Lucas may get to 90, Oscar has just blown his chance of getting above 88 for now although one day i think he can be a star, and Neymar i cant see being more than 91....
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            Re: Neymar Ganso Emboaba and Lucas

            Originally posted by JMH_daggers View Post
            WOW you have truely fallen for the HYPE and then some...

            Ganso will never be a 90, Lucas may get to 90, Oscar has just blown his chance of getting above 88 for now although one day i think he can be a star, and Neymar i cant see being more than 91....
            okay... have you guys watched these brazilians? !) neymar is good. not saying he's the next lionel messi... but he's good. ganso isn't haha. oscar is a brilliant playmaker if you watch his games and the same goes for lucas. there not overhyped. its overhyped to predict they'll be 95 +, but at the moment they are good.


            by the way, how has oscar blown his chance? don't get that... playing in the olympics (not like thats to big a deal) and he is now with chelsea. if your point is that he won't get much playing time at chelsea, i think your sorely mistaken. he may start out slow to play but he will get some good playing time.

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              Re: Neymar Ganso Emboaba and Lucas

              Originally posted by JMH_daggers View Post
              WOW you have truely fallen for the HYPE and then some...

              Ganso will never be a 90, Lucas may get to 90, Oscar has just blown his chance of getting above 88 for now although one day i think he can be a star, and Neymar i cant see being more than 91....
              moving to chelsea should be good for oscar's ratings. but he will probably get 88/89 after the olympics due to his move. after that, i think it'll be 2-3 ratings later probably end of season before he gets his 90. then again, it'll be a big IF. 50/50 chance.

              lucas is same boat as oscar.

              ganso really is over hyped. i doubt he'll move to europe. while in brazil, he's stuck at 90.

              neymar is a tough one. easily the most talented brazillian in his generation. if he stays probbaly max outat 91. if he moves to say barca, probably peak ard 93. similar to robinho.

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                Re: Neymar Ganso Emboaba and Lucas

                Originally posted by matadomance94 View Post
                okay... have you guys watched these brazilians? !) neymar is good. not saying he's the next lionel messi... but he's good. ganso isn't haha. oscar is a brilliant playmaker if you watch his games and the same goes for lucas. there not overhyped. its overhyped to predict they'll be 95 +, but at the moment they are good.


                by the way, how has oscar blown his chance? don't get that... playing in the olympics (not like thats to big a deal) and he is now with chelsea. if your point is that he won't get much playing time at chelsea, i think your sorely mistaken. he may start out slow to play but he will get some good playing time.
                i watch a lot of serie a & libertadores....

                well just wait and see what happens this season with Chelsea.. then you can say i told you so. duno why everyone thinks he will walk straight into the team...what about mata, hazard,marin, ramires........all play in advanced positions up the pitch.

                plus there are alot of bright young things coming through in brazil, every season there is always the new next neymar or oscar or ganso....
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                  Re: Neymar Ganso Emboaba and Lucas

                  Originally posted by JMH_daggers View Post
                  i watch a lot of serie a & libertadores....

                  well just wait and see what happens this season with Chelsea.. then you can say i told you so. duno why everyone thinks he will walk straight into the team...what about mata, hazard,marin, ramires........all play in advanced positions up the pitch.
                  Maybe they are trying to approach Barca`s 4-6-0

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                    Re: Neymar Ganso Emboaba and Lucas

                    IMO....

                    Neymar will never make it..just a flop.

                    Ganso another flop.

                    Oscar a brilliant talent who'll be wasted in Chelsea team.

                    Lucas one of the most talented brazilian in my eyes...absolutely amazing player...anyway we have to wait to see if he can do it in Europe.

                    EDIT: And I cant belive how many guys ignore this deadly striker called Damiao.A combination between force,technique and a typical brazilian player is deadly.The best talented in my eyes coming from Brazil easily.After him is Lucas but Damiao is amazing,phenomenal,great.In my eyes he's the only one who'll surely make it in Europe.He's a nature force,he's absolutely....amazing.

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                      Re: Neymar Ganso Emboaba and Lucas

                      Originally posted by La libelulle View Post
                      Maybe they are trying to approach Barca`s 4-6-0
                      haha, and watch them FAIL at it!


                      Originally posted by MUTD View Post
                      IMO....

                      Neymar will never make it..just a flop.

                      Ganso another flop.

                      Oscar a brilliant talent who'll be wasted in Chelsea team.

                      Lucas one of the most talented brazilian in my eyes...absolutely amazing player...anyway we have to wait to see if he can do it in Europe.

                      EDIT: And I cant belive how many guys ignore this deadly striker called Damiao.A combination between force,technique and a typical brazilian player is deadly.The best talented in my eyes coming from Brazil easily.After him is Lucas but Damiao is amazing,phenomenal,great.In my eyes he's the only one who'll surely make it in Europe.He's a nature force,he's absolutely....amazing.
                      some sense here, yes, everyone forgetting DAMIAO, could be a top striker which is rare for brazil to have an out and out goal scorer...

                      IMO, i dont rate Lucas as highly as you, but i think he could be the one who adapts to the European game the best...not worth 30M or whatever Man Utd willing to pay though!
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                        Re: Neymar Ganso Emboaba and Lucas

                        It's all about Lucas and Damiao, add Wellington (DM) to that and Danilo too and 2014 could be a great year for Brazil.

                        I'm not discounting Neymar in any way BTW
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                          Re: Neymar Ganso Emboaba and Lucas

                          Wow! Where do you buy the cristal balls? I need one, too, I can`t see how he`s ruined... Patience kids!

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                            Re: Neymar Ganso Emboaba and Lucas

                            Recently I watched Brazil NT play, cant remember exactly but it might be friendly game.

                            Neymar was good, moura as usual with his tricks but a bit greedy, oscar okay but ganso.. Goddamn... Maybe you guys are right, he is overhype.

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                              Re: Neymar Ganso Emboaba and Lucas

                              neymar is quality but i think he needs to move to a team like psg before he makes the move to barca or real, for me the most potential is lucas moura he has more skill and pace than neymar, he reminds me alot of ronaldo when he first came to man utd, oscar looks ok but i have a feeling he will flop in england and ganso is average with a few serious knee injurys behind him so not many clubs in europe will touch him. the next top brazilians are adryan of flamengo ademilson of sao paulo and wallace of fluminense snap them up

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