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For your own good dont ignore.

We are starting to get more foolish members who think they are being clever by creating aliases to by pass bans in Forum and chat room.
Reason is why im calling them foolish is we will always have the upperhand ,we only used to keep banning these accounts and lengthining their main banned one which we now consider to soft .
SM will now start taking action against these members with in game punishment which some banned members are now finding out and not to happy.
SM will decide what type of action they deem appropriate which can be loss of manager rep so could result in you getting slung out of certain set ups .
Now hopefully with this announcement it may stop having to take this action because we dont want to see anyone losing rep /teams etc .

http://forum.soccermanager.com/showthread.php?t=37199

This link above if members had cared to read on rule board tells you how to go about appealing against any sort of punishment you occur .
Will find one for chat users on there as well .

So keep to it because if you think your being a clever clogs to get around a ban which at most lasts one day or a week ,is it worth getting kicked out of GM because of Rep and loosing favourite team that you love the most ,if your not a GM the same risks apply .

Choice is yours to make freely without pressure .
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SM Filter system ( Rule 18 .)

Due to the complaints from members saying they get infractioned for starred out words and some members do not so SM Supervisors/Moderators need to be on the same wave length,to them its got to be one ruling only so confusion is not caused ,also with complaints recieved from members that some deem its ok to insult them with starred out words because there not actually shown,all these complaints have been taken into consideration and it has been decided that seems the filter removed these unwanted words ,then the poster will re edit and change words if not wanting infraction ,also dont play word games to beat the system,
eg.
its sucking fhit. The people who make these rules are cunning stunts.

Also these.
"£%^$£!*&"
@ssed
We are not stupid as well as the members that do these,there no accident they are in place of what are not allowed
I am sure there are many more correct allowed words that can take the place of these ,plus it keeps posts looking more neat and tidy .


From now Mods will give you a warning without loss of points ,if do it again you will lose points ,from Ist March you will not get a warning just loss of points ,only members we will look at to overturn are them that join in March to give them the same chance you members are being given to get your own house in order.









because from 1st March all starred words will recieve infraction .Please check rule 18.
Thank you .
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New Forum/Chat Rules and Violation procedures.

It is in all members interest who use Forum/chat to check the new additions on ,
SM Forum / Chat rules/regulations / Violation procedures and Supervisor announcements.

There are updates on Rules and a great guide on what procedures happens to you if you violate any of rules for both rooms .

Thank-you.

Can all SM Moderators please check on the Moderators board the new procedures theirselves if they already have not .
Thank you .
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Grievance with Moderators .

All members that have any problems/issues with Moderators closing / editing / deleting threads that they have posted etc or infractions given to them by Moderators then do not throw tantrums on the board itself via another thread or through PM system to the Moderator,it will not help your case if you want to have it re-looked at by SM Supervisors ,because Moderators are only doing what they have been instructed to do ,yes a thread may not have needed to be closed etc ,but closed /deleted threads can always be re-opened ,infractions can always be overturned ,so if your not happy with any of the above by SM Moderator ,i suggest you check all Forum rules /Guidelines and all rules for Rep system because these rule breakages also can result in infractions ,if you have not broken any of these then send your complaint through PM System to a SM Supervisor because we are your next port of call .
Please do not take it to the boards for any discussions on the rights or wrongs .
We will decide if we need to overturn any decision a Mod makes and that is through private consultation .
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Infraction System

From Saturday 20/9/08 the SM Moderators will begin having the use of the Infraction system which up to now as only been used by SM Supervisors.
The way the infraction system works is you will get punished on type of post / rule breakage etc ,this is what you can be punished for .

Title
Warning for Rule Violation
Spammed Advertisements
Insulted Other Member(s)
Signature Rule Violation
Inappropriate Language
Instant Ban 10pts

I would also highly recommend members take a look at
" Forum reputation system thread"
so you learn how to use the Reputation system properly because any of these rules violated will also incur infraction penalty.



How infractions work.
There is a certain set ammount of point depending on which one so please be aware they are not just 1.
Also if you accumalate 10 then you will be auto banned ,each time you are given an infraction that point/points lasts for 10dys .
Also a SM Supervisor/Moderator may deem to give person/persons a instant 10pt ban if they think they need a cooling period for heating threads or out of control arguments ,again this can last from 1 hour up to a day then it will be removed.
Please realise this starts from Saturday 20/9/08 so no good complaining if someone got away with it before that date for the same reason you may have recieved one from this.
This forwarns you all so there is no excuse,ive shown you above what warrents a breakage of the system.

If a SM Supervisor/SM Moderator gives you an infraction then you will also at the same time receive a PM why and which one you deemed to have broken so you can check yourself .
Members that are not happy please do not send PM back to the Moderator that gave you it because the only way to appeal and have it reversed is through SM Supervisor ,and our decision will be final.
The best thing you can do before appealing is check you did not break any of the above ,because you will need a very good reason to have it overturned if you did.
Thank-you for your co-operation.
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    No actually i would like to discuss something about Messi. Probably this was discussed before but since im kinda new i dont really know if it was discussed.

    Currently Messi is positioned as a Forward/Advanced Midfielder. I agree Messi can and have played in both positions, however, he has been playing as a Wing almost his entire career in FC Barcelona shinning as a right winger and becoming the best player. Sure, against Arsenal in Barcelona he played as a second striker scoring 4 goals but still i have honestly saw him way more as a Winger than Forward, in fact he actually played more as an Advanced Midfielder than as a Forward.

    In my opinion his position should be Wing/AM/Fwd but since it cant be 3 positions i would put him as a Wing/AM.

    On another topic, i believe that Messi either played 99 or Christiano Ronaldo played for a 97. I dont think both players should have the same score.

    Any thoughts?
    Last edited by SM Dev (Ste); 06-09-2010, 09:42 AM.

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    Re: Messi

    hey mate, i dont think messi should get a 99. Unless ofcourse he can prove in the world cup by leading argentina to victory or the finals. His international form has been poor. And Messi is no better than Ronaldo. He just plays for a better club and has xavi and iniesta behind him to feed him with passes. Unless he can prove something in the international stage, he does not even deserve a 98 in my opinion. If Spain win this world cup, i would actually be calling for xavi to get a 98. This guy is what makes messi look so good and is the heartbeat of both spain and barcelona

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      Re: Messi

      messi is not a winger though, he cuts inside so much and runs towards goal, a traditional winger stays outside.
      he is a forward who has drifted out a lot and cuts inside.
      hence the fwd position.

      also he is not better then ronaldo.
      i cant be bothered to explain why there are already several threads about messi and ronaldo in great detail about the points you raise

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        Re: Messi

        Personally I would say ronaldo is the better player at the moment. But messi is still younger. When messi hits 25 I would gladly say messi would most likely be the better player.

        But an answer to your question, I think he should be AM/Fwd.
        Last edited by lee18; 06-09-2010, 10:56 PM.
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          Re: Messi

          Messi and Ronaldo should both be rated the same. Look at last season's stats and you'll see why. Messi is more magical (some thanks to Xavi) but Ronaldo is deadly and efficient.

          Positions wise I see where you're coming from. His role doesn't really fit in on SM as in a 433 wingers formation (Barcelona style) he can't play anywhere (to his full potential) as he is neither a winger or a centre forward. This strikes me as being a little daft.

          I'd suggest letting players have more than 2 positions (might raise this in the Development section). I can think of numerous players who can play multiple positions and this isn't reflected by SM or that, like Messi, they play a role that is pretty undefined by SM's structure.

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            Re: Messi

            Originally posted by lee18 View Post
            Personally I would say ronaldo is the better player at the moment. But messi is still younger. When messi hits 25 I would gladly say messi would most likely be the better player.
            ronaldo is better, you dont need to argue about it, whos proved themselves in the worlds toughest, hardest, best, unforgiving league, RONALDOOOO
            RONALDO -98 MESSI-97

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              Re: Messi

              Originally posted by A2R ANWOT View Post
              ronaldo is better, you dont need to argue about it, whos proved themselves in the worlds toughest, hardest, best, unforgiving league, RONALDOOOO
              RONALDO -98 MESSI-97
              As an aside, this is exactly why people from outside the UK think we're so obnoxious with regard to world football I'd have thought being on a forum like this would be enough to open your eyes a little.

              Besides, what's a Liverpool fan doing supporting that lady-boy?

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                Re: Messi

                Originally posted by StuartH View Post
                As an aside, this is exactly why people from outside the UK think we're so obnoxious with regard to world football I'd have thought being on a forum like this would be enough to open your eyes a little.

                Besides, what's a Liverpool fan doing supporting that lady-boy?
                i dont support him you just cant deny hes the best although i have to say laliga is the best now, but that is NOW, not a couple of seasons ago

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                  Re: Messi

                  Originally posted by StuartH View Post

                  I'd suggest letting players have more than 2 positions (might raise this in the Development section). I can think of numerous players who can play multiple positions and this isn't reflected by SM or that, like Messi, they play a role that is pretty undefined by SM's structure.
                  in the new match day experience i thought they were working on this.
                  if not then this idea is mroe of a necessity then a nice feature.
                  its a major problem with SM at the moment.
                  in real life a huge amount of players can play more than 2 positions equally well, no frop in form just for being in the secondary as there is in SM.
                  it really limits the players you can buy.
                  eg park cannot play DM at all , no way.
                  but he can CM LM RM AM. so you would put him as a MID but then ur allowing him to play DM which he cant.

                  ronaldo = RM LM WING. but you cant have this despite it being true.
                  all wingers suffer from not being able to play at RM/LM / WING as only 2 places available.
                  a feature that needs a slight revamp i think.

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