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For your own good dont ignore.

We are starting to get more foolish members who think they are being clever by creating aliases to by pass bans in Forum and chat room.
Reason is why im calling them foolish is we will always have the upperhand ,we only used to keep banning these accounts and lengthining their main banned one which we now consider to soft .
SM will now start taking action against these members with in game punishment which some banned members are now finding out and not to happy.
SM will decide what type of action they deem appropriate which can be loss of manager rep so could result in you getting slung out of certain set ups .
Now hopefully with this announcement it may stop having to take this action because we dont want to see anyone losing rep /teams etc .

http://forum.soccermanager.com/showthread.php?t=37199

This link above if members had cared to read on rule board tells you how to go about appealing against any sort of punishment you occur .
Will find one for chat users on there as well .

So keep to it because if you think your being a clever clogs to get around a ban which at most lasts one day or a week ,is it worth getting kicked out of GM because of Rep and loosing favourite team that you love the most ,if your not a GM the same risks apply .

Choice is yours to make freely without pressure .
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SM Filter system ( Rule 18 .)

Due to the complaints from members saying they get infractioned for starred out words and some members do not so SM Supervisors/Moderators need to be on the same wave length,to them its got to be one ruling only so confusion is not caused ,also with complaints recieved from members that some deem its ok to insult them with starred out words because there not actually shown,all these complaints have been taken into consideration and it has been decided that seems the filter removed these unwanted words ,then the poster will re edit and change words if not wanting infraction ,also dont play word games to beat the system,
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its sucking fhit. The people who make these rules are cunning stunts.

Also these.
"£%^$£!*&"
@ssed
We are not stupid as well as the members that do these,there no accident they are in place of what are not allowed
I am sure there are many more correct allowed words that can take the place of these ,plus it keeps posts looking more neat and tidy .


From now Mods will give you a warning without loss of points ,if do it again you will lose points ,from Ist March you will not get a warning just loss of points ,only members we will look at to overturn are them that join in March to give them the same chance you members are being given to get your own house in order.









because from 1st March all starred words will recieve infraction .Please check rule 18.
Thank you .
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New Forum/Chat Rules and Violation procedures.

It is in all members interest who use Forum/chat to check the new additions on ,
SM Forum / Chat rules/regulations / Violation procedures and Supervisor announcements.

There are updates on Rules and a great guide on what procedures happens to you if you violate any of rules for both rooms .

Thank-you.

Can all SM Moderators please check on the Moderators board the new procedures theirselves if they already have not .
Thank you .
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Grievance with Moderators .

All members that have any problems/issues with Moderators closing / editing / deleting threads that they have posted etc or infractions given to them by Moderators then do not throw tantrums on the board itself via another thread or through PM system to the Moderator,it will not help your case if you want to have it re-looked at by SM Supervisors ,because Moderators are only doing what they have been instructed to do ,yes a thread may not have needed to be closed etc ,but closed /deleted threads can always be re-opened ,infractions can always be overturned ,so if your not happy with any of the above by SM Moderator ,i suggest you check all Forum rules /Guidelines and all rules for Rep system because these rule breakages also can result in infractions ,if you have not broken any of these then send your complaint through PM System to a SM Supervisor because we are your next port of call .
Please do not take it to the boards for any discussions on the rights or wrongs .
We will decide if we need to overturn any decision a Mod makes and that is through private consultation .
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Infraction System

From Saturday 20/9/08 the SM Moderators will begin having the use of the Infraction system which up to now as only been used by SM Supervisors.
The way the infraction system works is you will get punished on type of post / rule breakage etc ,this is what you can be punished for .

Title
Warning for Rule Violation
Spammed Advertisements
Insulted Other Member(s)
Signature Rule Violation
Inappropriate Language
Instant Ban 10pts

I would also highly recommend members take a look at
" Forum reputation system thread"
so you learn how to use the Reputation system properly because any of these rules violated will also incur infraction penalty.



How infractions work.
There is a certain set ammount of point depending on which one so please be aware they are not just 1.
Also if you accumalate 10 then you will be auto banned ,each time you are given an infraction that point/points lasts for 10dys .
Also a SM Supervisor/Moderator may deem to give person/persons a instant 10pt ban if they think they need a cooling period for heating threads or out of control arguments ,again this can last from 1 hour up to a day then it will be removed.
Please realise this starts from Saturday 20/9/08 so no good complaining if someone got away with it before that date for the same reason you may have recieved one from this.
This forwarns you all so there is no excuse,ive shown you above what warrents a breakage of the system.

If a SM Supervisor/SM Moderator gives you an infraction then you will also at the same time receive a PM why and which one you deemed to have broken so you can check yourself .
Members that are not happy please do not send PM back to the Moderator that gave you it because the only way to appeal and have it reversed is through SM Supervisor ,and our decision will be final.
The best thing you can do before appealing is check you did not break any of the above ,because you will need a very good reason to have it overturned if you did.
Thank-you for your co-operation.
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  • Counter formations

    In this thread I will tell you which formations counter which. This is a simple, down to earth thread, easy for everyone to use.

    Enjoy

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    Re: Counter formations

    4-4-2 diamond also works well against 4-3-3 wingers when I tried it a few times This is useful when someone thinks you will choose the 3-5-2 and try to counter to 4-3-3 wingers but you just switch to 4-4-2 diamond to most probably win

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      Re: Counter formations

      Originally posted by Elton View Post
      4-4-2 diamond also works well against 4-3-3 wingers when I tried it a few times This is useful when someone thinks you will choose the 3-5-2 and try to counter to 4-3-3 wingers but you just switch to 4-4-2 diamond to most probably win
      4-5-1 is good too, but I think 4-1-3-2 is best, the 1 DM/CM stops the front striker along with you CBs, the 3 AMs/Wingers and the 2 Fwds out numbers their defensive 3.

      What do you think?

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        Re: Counter formations

        Originally posted by Hyina View Post
        4-5-1 is good too, but I think 4-1-3-2 is best, the 1 DM/CM stops the front striker along with you CBs, the 3 AMs/Wingers and the 2 Fwds out numbers their defensive 3.

        What do you think?
        I only ever used 4-4-2 diamond to counter it, never tried the other 2. Might give it a go and see what happens

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          Re: Counter formations

          Originally posted by Elton View Post
          I only ever used 4-4-2 diamond to counter it, never tried the other 2. Might give it a go and see what happens
          Hehe

          .....................

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          • #6
            Re: Counter formations

            Originally posted by BenNewman View Post
            Hehe

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            Yes what is it Newman?

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            • #7
              Re: Counter formations

              Out of interest, what are these counters based on?

              How many times has 3-2-2-2-1 played 5-3-2 sweeper, and 3-4-3 played 5-3-2 defensive, what were the results, etc.?
              Last edited by Jooles; 06-04-2011, 03:10 PM.
              Man Utd, Man Utd, Spurs, Middlesbrough, Man Utd, Man Utd, Middlesbrough, Everton, Liverpool, Swansea, Spurs, Man Utd (congrats SOP)

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              • #8
                Re: Counter formations

                Originally posted by Jooles View Post
                Out of interest, what are these counters based on?

                How many times has 3-2-2-2-1 played 5-3-2 sweeper, and 3-4-3 played 5-3-2 defensive, what were the results, etc.?
                Results from friendlies, league matches etc..

                For the more rare formations I drew the formations out and had a thought about it. E.g:

                X
                X
                X-------X
                X-------X-------X
                ----X------X----
                ----X------X----

                It's difficult to display this on typing, I'll see if I can scan and upload some photos...

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                • #9
                  Re: Counter formations

                  nice guide of a thread
                  http://i26.tinypic.com/r26zcl.jpg

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                    Re: Counter formations

                    i was thinking to improve the thread you can include what tactics play style to use to counter the formation

                    mind you there is a thread about this sir metz's i think, but don't know if it actually still works
                    http://i26.tinypic.com/r26zcl.jpg

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                    • #11
                      Re: Counter formations

                      Testing this tonight with two teams with my own instructions.

                      My 3-2-2-2-1 against 4-1-2-1-2 & 4-5-1

                      Counter Attack
                      Use Playmaker
                      Use Target Man
                      Normal Tackling
                      Attacking Mentality
                      Mixed Passing
                      Mixed Attacking Style
                      Normal Tempo
                      Pressing All Over
                      If we don't finish 2nd, which is what I think we could finish, we will definitely finish 3rd. At the rate you lot are going im predicting Europa league football for now. When a average player like Sanchez Carrys a team for the amount of time he has, there comes a time where he just can't do it any more with out support.👍

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                      • #12
                        Re: Counter formations

                        Originally posted by 123_ABC View Post
                        Testing this tonight with my own instructions.

                        My 3-2-2-2-1 against 4-1-2-1-2

                        Counter Attack
                        Use Playmaker
                        Use Target Man
                        Normal Tackling
                        Attacking Mentality
                        Mixed Passing
                        Mixed Attacking Style
                        Normal Tempo
                        Pressing All Over
                        What is a 4-1-2-1-2 formation?

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                          Re: Counter formations

                          Originally posted by 123_ABC View Post
                          Testing this tonight with two teams with my own instructions.

                          My 3-2-2-2-1 against 4-1-2-1-2 & 4-5-1

                          Counter Attack
                          Use Playmaker
                          Use Target Man
                          Normal Tackling
                          Attacking Mentality
                          Mixed Passing
                          Mixed Attacking Style
                          Normal Tempo
                          Pressing All Over
                          Ok, good luck! (Or my thread is ruined )

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                            Re: Counter formations

                            Originally posted by Hyina View Post
                            Ok, good luck! (Or my thread is ruined )
                            4-1-2-1-2/4-4-2 diamond how ever you want to put it lol

                            Anyway this is like last resort for me cause I have good teams losing. many people say counters dont work but this is the test.
                            If we don't finish 2nd, which is what I think we could finish, we will definitely finish 3rd. At the rate you lot are going im predicting Europa league football for now. When a average player like Sanchez Carrys a team for the amount of time he has, there comes a time where he just can't do it any more with out support.👍

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                              Re: Counter formations

                              Originally posted by 123_ABC View Post
                              4-1-2-1-2/4-4-2 diamond how ever you want to put it lol

                              Anyway this is like last resort for me cause I have good teams losing. many people say counters dont work but this is the test.
                              suggestion: put a defensive arrow on one of your DMs. and no forward arrows needed on anyoneelse

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