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  2. Re: Official Liverpool Thread Well done Reina a big slap on the back . Couple more great saves tonight ,but will still not get the " need a new goalkeeper brigade of his back ". Seen plenty of posts berating his errors costing us games ,but none when keeping us in or winning games . Tonight his saves if Suarez had not had an off night would have won us the game . "Hang on what am i thinking about" Suarez if he had taken at least 2 of the easy chances then your plaudits would be for him ,Reina as a Gk is only doing his job . Gobbly **** and poppy **** . I have been enlightened on this thread by posters that in the last two seasons Reina has made errors ,yet in both seasons you can count them on one hand . Glad you guys did not have Grobbelar in goal while you been supporting the reds . Nobody made more errors than Grobbelar ,but he also made world class saves like Reina still does . He lasted 13 yrs and 3 managers for all his errors ( Paisley ,Fagan and Dalglish yet we won with him making all these errors 6 titles,3 FA Cups and 3 league cups ,one European cup and one Super cup). Difference between Grobbelar and Reina is the other 10 outfielders . Grobbs had no nonsence defenders in front of him ,except for Carragher in the last 3 games showing what a DEFENDER is supposed to do ,without him playing in most games this season Reina has also not had a full support from his back men ,they also have had plenty of "mares" . In the last 2 yrs we have had 3 manager changes ,no thought given to what effect this may have played . Take this season alone under Rodgers ,all the team at the back has suffered because he likes them to pass it around and keep possesion ,not just lump it up ,well Reina now has more added responsible duties because of this ,why it is causing a lot of errors when defenders get closed down quickly . Noticed Carragher though will just lump it up or kick it into row Z if no other option ,not try and pass it back to Reina or to another player to put him in trouble ,you can reset defence again from a throwing and if you punt it far enough out of danger up pitch . Wonder if Rodgers knew his Defensive way is why Carra has not played many matches because you can not say that Agger and Skrytel have been that ammazing that they have kept him out . Nope their displays forced his hand and why Carra should of played more and i hope the other CB have learnt something from the master ,and Rodgers as well because sometimes more than not you need it Carras way . Goals not only win games they also help take the pressure of at the back and this season plenty of matches have not hit this scenario going into the last 10 minutes . That was Grobbs get out clause with his errors, the other end did the buisness and finished games of ,we are not .
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  4. Re: Official Liverpool Thread Where do i start . 442: -Clemence- Neal-Yeats-Hughes-Lindsay Callaghan -Hamman-Souness-Heighway Hunt-Dalglish Or 443: -Lawrence- Lawler-Hansen-Thompson-Smith Houghten -Molby-Whelan-Berger Rush -Fowler-Owen Or 352; -Reina- Jones-Hyypia-Carragher-Riese McManaman-Alonso-Mascherano-Gerrard-Barnes Torres-Suarez Forget it . My list is endless ,you can mix all them above and make great sides .
  5. Re: Official Liverpool Thread For posistions played i would say alongside the great Ron Yeats .
  6. Re: Official Liverpool Thread Or how thick the GK was seems he had to let in at least 3 goals not one .. 1999 Members of an Asian betting syndicate caught tampering with *floodlights to get Charlton v Liverpool abandoned. West Ham v Crystal Palace and Wimbledon v Arsenal were earlier victims of same scam Apperently with the above they used the London based M.Utd supporters to help them out . "1" held the light bulbs while the other 58,000 tried to turn the floodlight stands around .
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  8. Re: Official Liverpool Thread Especially your type;) Bet if you was at Old trafford when your side lost 4-1 to us you would have been one of the great faithfull that walked out just after half time i presume to show your disgust . This to a manager and team that had already fetched you a lot of glory ,plus that United team the fans deserted very swiftly in the second half actually won the title at the end of the season anyway . Yep loyal supported to the core . Trouble that bothers me at the moment is on here Brendan Rodgers is already getting a bit of stick and he is only in his first halve of the season . Im getting concerned some of the LFC lads on here are actually like you in the way you support your side and its the new modern fan with the modern football . When i began Supporting LFC they were still in the old second division Shankly had been manager for about 3 yrs i think ,he got us promoted and " started the process " of making Liverpool into the great team they became . One of his great Quotes at the time was " if you can not cheer us when we are losing or drawing ,but only winning then do not come we do not need you ". Imagine the Modern day fan being told that . Aso imagine Shanks in the Modern game he would not have been given time in his "work in progress". Fergie had not won anything for United in his 5 yrs ,he was saved by the youngsters that came through,otherwise things might of been different for United . As a Liverpool fan of the old school i support my team through the bad times as well as the good ,i support and will give time to any manager the club takes on . Yes i will voice my opinion on anything i think the manager to me has done wrong ,team ,players etc ,like all loyal fans will do ,its their love for the club . But to want him out already like some because they do not think he is up to it ,then if only half a season is now the measuring point then like Shanks said we are proberly better of without this modern day supporter . Before i get told i am living in the past i am not ,what i will never do which is a shame for most modern fans that sling this at us oldies is i never forget the "roots" and why Liverpool supporters are famous for backing the team in bad just not good . Y.N.W.A.
  9. Re: Official Liverpool Thread And so he shouldnt since all this Jimmy saville stuff has come out of the closet . We have a load of youngsters playing for us now and the last thing we need is for him to be watching them have a shower after matches .
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  11. Re: Official Liverpool Thread "The gutter press is left fuming after the Ball boy incident:eek:" Why had they not thought of it first and just like "phone tapping " they could have paid this small kindergarden child only 17yrs of age a tiny fee to have done it in a Liverpool game against Suarez. They are now struggling to keep it interesting wheras with Suarez it would be a headline sensation. "Suarez needs deporting on the next flight out ." "Goverment need to fetch back the death penalty ." " Inside sources inform us Suarez is a reincarnated witch ,fetch back the ducking stool ." Yep not what they really wanted with it being Hazard ,and after all this ball boy is only a kid .
  12. Re: Official Liverpool Thread Not really ,English clubs dominated it for 6 yrs on the trot from 1977. We won it twice then Forest got it twice straight after us ,we won it again then the next year villa won it ,1983 Hamburg won it for their only time in 84 we won it again and in 85 we lost to Juve in the Heysel final tradgedy . Forest under Clough for a few yrs had a fantastic side ,you must remember only the champions entered so clubs like Forest were worthy winners . Barcelona never even played in it in all these yrs above just like Man Utd because they never won their league . Nope before the greedy big bucks format came into place which i am not knocking in this modern era ,champions of old was certainly different to champions of today . You beat your opponent over two legs or you was simply out . Now you meet supposedly easy teams first to get in your group ,then its made sure countries of the same country dont meet each other yet . You can lose even 2 games and still get through to win it ,if your third you drop into the Europa . So no its not mad that Forest are the 3rd succesful its just well deserved .
  13. Re: Official Liverpool Thread Nah better to say we won 4 of them when the actual league champions played the other countries champion ,while you won 1 . Weve only won one when it got devalued and 4 teams can now get in it ,lose matches in their group get 2nd place and still get through and have a chance . There are now plans to get rid of the Europa and make it 6 teams in it ,how far do you devalue it when origanally it was for champions only ..
  14. Re: Official Liverpool Thread Even with Bebe though its all a risk factor your club has taken like ours does ,and both will still do in the future. He is only 22 comming over to play in our league which with many players not just him ,while comming with great endorsments and looking potentially good over there ,pace of our league etc just need to be given a chance and time to adjust to it ,or again maybe they never will adapt . Hence flops bad player etc ,but go back abroad their not . Take Forlan many United fans at the time and other fans called him a flop for your club . He came to your club at the age of 22 had 3 seasons and United got rid . Played 63 games for you scored 10 goals hence by some you wasted money buying a flop . Yet when leaving United at only 25 yrs which is really when they are supposedly just starting to becoming the finished article on there way to peaking at 28yrs -32yrs. (Giggs and scholes making a mockery of the final age if you look after yourself properly ) . He goes to Villarreal plays 106 games and scores 54 goals . Then at his peaking yrs 28 he goes to Athletico madrid plays 134 scores 74 . Great accounts for both clubs after leaving United . Before joining United hence the transfer fee they risked at that young age he had played 80 games and scored 37 goals which to United was worth the risk plus what they had proberly also seen in him before taking the risk . Therefore was he really a flop ,was he given the time you need to give a foreign youngster at that age because they should have more than our own who are fetched up playing it . Language ,Culture ,Family friends etc also settling in ,they all play a part when not buying home grown . Yet because of the price most exspect a return from the off ,if not an instant flop.
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