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Arguing A Rating Change - A Handy Guide

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Arguing A Rating Change – A Handy Guide

Each week that goes by, Soccer Manager will edit the ratings of tens and tens of players. Due to the differing opinions of many forumers, this is always going to strike up huge debate. But if you want people to echo your thoughts and opinions, you have to go about your claims in the right manner. Hopefully, this guide will give you a helping hand in winning your peers over.

However, before we can make our argument, it may be possible that we don’t fully understand how the rating change system operates. If you want to argue a rating change, it is essential that you know what you are arguing against. To gain an understanding, there are a few points which need to be addressed:

  • The Factors That Contribute to a Rating Increase or Decrease.

  • Team/Squad Averages.

  • Quality of the League.

  • Continental and International Experience.

  • Prolonged Good/Bad Form.

  • The Actual Form of the Player.

  • Objective Analysis.

1.
The Factors That Contribute to a Rating Increase or Decrease.

It’s not to hard to find these factors out. If you do a little bit of digging in the SM help section, you will find the following list of factors which are considered for all rating changes:
The main factors that contribute to a down-rating include:

* Long term injury;

* Serious dip in form;

* Dropping down a domestic league level;

* Moving to a less competitive domestic league;

* Lack of regular first team football;

* Lack of regular continental football;

* Lack of regular international football;

* Long term suspension from the game.

The main factors that contribute to an up-rating include:

* Individual awards and accolades;

* Domestic honours;

* Continental honours;

* International honours;

* Domestic experience;

* Continental experience;

* International experience;

* Reaching the next stage in their career (e.g proving themselves in a higher division or at a continental/international level).

When considering a rating change, it’s worth checking this list to see what categories a certain player may fall under. SM will use this as the basis for their reviews of each and every section, but there are always cases where it may appear that SM have completely missed the trick, just as
BenReado
will vouch for,
There is a classic example of somebody constructing a good argument with facts and not necessarily opinion, but in the majority of cases, this list can be used to sort out the vast majority of rating change disputes.

2.
Team/Squad Averages.

You can find the current ratings of every single club on SM by clicking on the “Real Life Clubs” tab in the game. It’s worth noting the squad average of the side that the player you are arguing for before making your claim. What’s even more noteworthy is the actual starting XI of the side in question, as the average rating of those eleven players is more than likely to be above the entire squad average. With this in mind, you have to be aware that, if a player is highly rated in the side, even if the player in question is playing brilliantly in real life, they might not be eligible for a rise because he is already level with the squad average. This point can go hand in hand with the next point...

3.
Quality of the League.

This can often be a major sticking point in many people’s arguments for or against a particular rating change. If a certain player is playing very well in a poor league, his potential rise can be restricted due to the level of opposition he is playing against. For the European leagues, UEFA ranks them in the order of their quality and competitiveness, and these current rankings can be found
:
1 England

2 Spain

3 Italy

4 Germany

5 France

6 Russia

7 Ukraine

8 Netherlands

9 Romania

10 Portugal

11 Turkey

12 Greece

13 Scotland

14 Belgium

15 Switzerland

16 Denmark

17 Bulgaria

18 Czech Republic

19 Norway

20 Austria

A classic example here could be Luis Suarez’ recent rating change, or lack thereof, in the Dutch review. Suarez has been in fantastic goalscoring form for Ajax this term but was not rewarded with a rise, largely due to the poor quality of league he performs in (the Dutch Eredivisie has dropped in UEFA’s coefficient quite rapidly in recent years).

It’s also worth noting that certain leagues have an imaginary rating cap that SM use to gauge the ratings of players in said league. For example, the Championship (the second tier of English football) has a cap of 85 on all players, unless they play international football. It’s also becoming increasingly obvious that the Dutch Eredivisie that I just mentioned appears to have a rating cap of 90.

4.
Continental and International Experience.

As I touched upon my last point, if a player has international caps underneath his belt, then it can have a dramatically positive effect on his rating change. Likewise, if a player’s club is performing on the continental scene, whether it be in the UEFA Champions League, the UEFA Europa League, the Copa Libertadores or any other relative competition, then that too can have an impact on the player’s potential increase.

Also, it’s worth remembering that the lack of this experience at the highest levels in the respective continents can restrict a player from increasing from his current level. There are countless examples of players on SM who are relatively lowly rated, simply because they can’t get into their respective National Team, case in point being Barcelona’s Victor Valdes (although there is possibly more to this argument).

5.
Prolonged Good/Bad Form.

You often have an example of a player who is performing regularly in a side but is rated far lower than the rest of their side. Naturally, the sheer amount of appearances and time on the pitch is going to benefit said player going into an upcoming rating review, but that player isn’t going to jump straight up to the first XI average in one fell swoop. Lowly-rated players are usually unproven youngsters and they need to prove that they are worthy of a lofty rating in the side over an extended period of time (and we’re looking at 12-18 months minimum here). It will often take a player 2-3 rating changes before they can be ranked alongside their more established teammates, and that’s presuming that their form on the pitch actually warrants it.

Likewise, if we have a player who is highly-rated in a side and is not playing very often, whether it be through bad form or injury, then their rating is not going to drop like a stone overnight. A player with a high rating has more than likely earned it over an extended period of time. A short period of poor form or injury is not going to tempt SM from giving the player too harsh a decrease, as there is every chance that they may very well rediscover that form in the not-to-distant future. However, if that player continues to perform poorly, or remains injured for an extended period of time (again, 12-18 months minimum), then you will see SM start to really punish a player’s rating.

6.
The Actual Form of the Player.

Now for one of the most important points of all; it is absolutely vital for you to understand that stats do not tell the whole story. For you to make a genuine claim for a player’s rating to be different, then you have to watch the player perform on the pitch. If you don’t, then you won’t conclusively know how the player in question is actually playing. For example, a striker might not be scoring any goals whatsoever, but he may be performing fantastically. A goalkeeper might be letting in goals left, right and centre, but he may be actually keeping out countless others with fantastic save after fantastic save. Put simply, if you don’t watch the player, you’re not in a very good position to be making a prediction and you are rather guessing what rating he deserves to have. If you don’t watch the player in question, acknowledge this in your argument.

7.
Objective Analysis

Finally, before you go ahead and make your claim, ask yourself, “why has SM given him the rating he has got?” It’s important to analyse the situation objectively because you may very well come to your very own conclusion before creating a pointless new thread. SM are going to have their reasons for giving or not giving a certain player a rating change, so it’s worth trying to realise what these reasons are before somebody else points them out for you.

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Now we have a clear understanding of how the rating system actually operates, we can analyse the player’s rating that we disagree with and decide whether we have a genuine argument to put forward. To do this, there are several things we should do, in order to construct a viable and well-reasoned argument:

  • Use the Search Tool.

  • Get Your Facts Right.

  • Make Good Comparisons.

  • Offer Your Opinion.

1.
Use the Search Tool.

Possibly, the most underused function on the forum. Every day, countless threads are made which are completely pointless as there is already a thread on the subject or one which can include your relevant information. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but it does bump the really good quality threads down the order when they deserve to be on the first page for everyone to see. Please, do us all a favour and search for the player in question and try and see if there is thread applicable for you to provide your thoughts and opinions.

2.
Get Your Facts Right.

A good argument can’t be made without some stats to back your claims up. There are tonnes of websites out there ready to tell you what you want to know, so make sure you do a little bit of research before you construct your argument. Here’s a couple of good websites to help you out:

Use the stats that you find on these websites to back-up your argument. Remember to look out for Continental and International appearances, as well as simply the domestic ones. Also, like I said before, make sure that you realise that stats don’t tell the whole story. The actual form of the player is just as important, if not more so.

3.
Make Good Comparisons.

It’s often a very good idea to compare the rating of your player in question to somebody else of a similar rating. However, there are a couple of things that must be considered when doing so. First of all, there is no point whatsoever in comparing two players who play in completely different positions on the football field. A 93-rated left-back has entirely different duties to a 93-rated centre-forward and it is nigh-on impossible for you to compare their abilities. Secondly, it’s important that you make the comparison of two players who play in the same league, or at least, two leagues of the same standard. There’s no point comparing an 80-rated player in La Liga with an 80-rated player in League One. On the same sort of point, it’s important to realise that comparing two players who play for clubs at opposite ends of the table is very difficult.

4.
Offer Your Opinion.

Opinions are what make the forum such a great place for people to converge and discuss football and Soccer Manager in general. Of course it’s okay for you to offer your opinion on a certain subject, but you have to acknowledge that that is
your opinion.
It’s vital that you realise that your thoughts are not the be-all-and-end-all, and that others are entitled to their point of view. If somebody disagrees with your opinion, try to take on board what they are saying before dismissing what they are trying to say.

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Anyway, I hope this has proven useful and can be referred to on a number of occasions. I look forward to seeing many an argument being based on my theories.
:)

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