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  1. Re: English Championship 106 - Transfer/Gossip thread Friel Unvield As Bolton Manager 07/01/10 - 18:00 After a day of speculation of who would be installed at the Reebok to replace Ian Etherington the club have issued a short statement to the local media confirming that 23 year old Bellshill born Friel will infact take the hotseat. The Scotsman penned a 3 year contract with the Trotters and a press conference is due shortly where he & chairman Eddie Davies will take and answer any questons which you have. Eddie Davies: Okay ladies & gentleman if you'd like to take a seat and get your questions ready when somone fixes this blooming microphone we will get started but before we do I would like to state now that Mr.Friel will not be answering any questions regarding the future of young Jack Wilshere. Fiona (Daily Record) Let me be the first to congradulate you on your appointment as the new Bolton manager but can you tell us why you choose Bolton as your destination and can you give us a insight on the much speculated get out clause in your contract and was there any truth in the Derby County rumours and is Toni Kroos set to join the club? Friel: (Haha) One question at a time lady you've not left much for the rest of your crew to ask me have you? Well to answer your first question it was more Bolton choosing me than the other way around. I was approached by Eddie and we had a good discussion about what his and my ambitions were for the club should I get the job and the rest is history. Fiona (Daily Record) It was that simple? Friel: Obviously I can't discuss certain things but it was pretty much that simple and let me just tell you that there was never any truth in me taking the Derby County post because I was never approached. Neller (Scouse Sport) So eh yer saying this isny the Maxi Rodriguez media Q&A eh ave been a bit of a divvy anyway im off ta shake hands with the wifes best friend and have a arabian knight thumbs up it's a good wan eh? Ian Bridges ( The Sun) What do feel you have to offer Bolton and do you think you already know who is likely to be in your plans and who is ready to exit the Reebok? Friel: It's to early to say I just got in the door but I'll have some more info for you in the coming days. Mark ( Manchester PaperTree) You make your bow as manager against Birmingham City on Saturday and with two defeats under Mr.Etherington so far this season are you confident you'll have enough preperation time in order to get off to a winning start? I've spoke to Eddie and he tells me the lads didn't have much of a pre-season due to the Internationals fixtures so he didn't have much time to work with but i'm not making excuses for him or the team but it all starts from now. Mark (Manchester Paper Tree) I know you can't speak about Jack WIlshere but can you confirm for us that there has indeed been contact from Premier League clubs interested in securing his services? Eddie Davies: I've already told you guys that we won't answer questions on abut Jack because there is simply nothing to tell. Jack is a Bolton player and will remain a Bolton player for many years to come. Eddie Davies: Right last question because we want to wrap things up and get back to work and i'msure you lot have other people to pester so make it a good one. Liam Burns(local Journo) Since your arrival yesterday the club has been linked to several players and one 20 year old in particular who I don't think I need to mention but what can you tell us about that? Friel: It's true that we have made contact about Toni Kroos but so far that's all it is although I can tell you we haven't had a reply yet so that's all I've got im afraid. Eddie Davies: Thank you ladies and gentlemen for your time I think i'm not alone in saying that we all wish Mr.Friel all the best this season and many after so if you'd like to make your way over to the usual area and collect your copies of todays conference.
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  3. Re: Guide to African Cup of Nations 2010 Group D Cameroon Goalkeepers: Carlos Kameni (Espanyol), Souleymanou Hamidou (Kayserispor), Guy N’dy Assembe (Valenciennes) Defenders: Rigobert Song (Trabzonspor), Geremi (Newcastle United), Henri Bedimo (Chateauroux), Andre Bikey (Burnley), Benout Assou-Ekotto (Tottenham) Midfielders: Aurelien Chedjou (Lille), Nicolas N’Koulou (Monaco), Alexandre Song (Arsenal), Jean Makoun (Lyon), Stephane M’Bia (Marseille), Georges Mandjeck (Kaiserlautern), Joel Matip (Schalke), Eyong Enoh (Ajax) Landry N’Guemo (Celtic), Achille Emana (Real Betis), Somen Tchoyi (Red Bull Salzburg) Forwards: Paul Alo’o (Nancy), Pierre Webo (Real Mallorca), Mohammadou Idrissou (Freiburg), Samuel Eto’o (Inter Milan) Arguably the main contenders to like of Ghana and the Ivory Coast, Cameroon will be expected to be involved right to the very end of the 2010 African Cup of Nations under new boss Paul le Guen. Despite qualifying for the World Cup, it’s been a rocky 12 months for the Indomitable Lions, and they’ll be hoping for a more rewarding 2010 starting with victory in Angola. One of Africa’s most successful sides of recent times has struggled to match the very best on the continent, being surpassed by the like of Ghana and the Ivory Coast, both in terms of performance and prestige, whilst Egypt’s magnificent run of form at the African Cup of Nations has frozen them out of this tournament as well. After failing to make the World Cup in 2006, after four consecutive participations, the pressure has been heaped on to make good the deficit and re-establish their supremacy on the continent. Whilst the long-term goal remains the World Cup, the 2010 African Cup of Nations represents, as it does for all the sides going to South Africa, an outstanding chance to fine tune the team. With four successive wins to confirm their place in Angola, fans will be hoping that the side haven’t peaked too soon. The tournament will also be a time to give some of the younger team members a chance. The youth teams for Cameroon have been very productive in recent seasons, and whilst they can’t complete with Ghana, who won both the African and World titles and U19 and U20 levels respectively or Nigeria, who bagged the 2007 U17 World Championships, they still have some excellent prospects coming through. With the like of the uncapped Joel Matip or young Monaco defender Nicolas N’Koulou, this tournament represents an excellent chance for some of those youngsters to force their way into Paul le Guen’s thoughts for later in the year. Fixtures 13th Jan – Gabon 17th Jan – Zambia 21st Jan – Tunisia Prediction On the surface, Cameroon look like clear favourites to progress as group winners from Group D, although from that stage on things get a little trickier with a potential quarter-final meeting against either Nigeria or Egypt. The squad should be more than capable of matching both Ghana and the Ivory Coast in the final reckoning, so claiming their fifth title at African level is a more than attainable target. Player to watch Samuel Eto'o A summer move to Serie A with Inter Milan looks to have been just the change of scene that Samuel Eto’o needed. The former Barcelona striker after falling out with the management at the Camp Nou has shown that he can also score goals in the much more defensive Italian game after a profitable spell with the Catalan giants. With eight goals in 16 league matches since arriving in Milan, Eto’o arrives at the 2010 African Cup of Nations in excellent form, and could well rival Didier Drogba for honours in the top scorer stakes in Angola. ---------------------- Gabon Goalkeepers: Didier Ovono (Le Mans), Yves Bitseki Moto (Bitam), Boris Nguema (USM Libreville) Defenders: Rodrigue Moudounga (AS Mangasport), Georges Ambourouet (Makedonija), Bruno Ecuele Manga (Angers), Moise Brou (Brest), Aymard Moro Mve (Mechelen), Ernest Akoussaga (Nantes), Arsene do Marcolino (Les Herbiers), Erwin Nguema Obame (Bitam) Midfielders: Alexander Ndoumbou (Marseille), Paul Kessany (Istres), Thierry Issiemou (Monastir), Cedric Moubamba (Dhofar), Arsene Copa (Gyor), Bruno Zita (Sivasspor), Alain Djissikadie (Mazembe) Attackers: Daniel Cousin (Hull City), Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (Lille), Fabrice do Marcolino (Stade Laval), Eric Mouloungi (Nice), Willy Aubameyang (Eupen) One of the most inexperienced teams at this level, Gabon may fancy their chances of causing an upset at the 2010 African Cup of Nations after surprising a few better known sides in qualification. It’s been a decade since Gabon last featured at the African Cup of Nations after making it through to the tournament finals in 2000 for only the second time in their history. Much of the credit for the significant improvement in the fortunes of the side known as the Black Panthers must go to former French international Alain Giresse. The majority of the squad hail from the French game, although only four ply their trade at Ligue 1 clubs. Furthermore there are a smattering of players from other European leagues such as the English Premiership and the Turkish Superlig, so Gabon’s achievement of performing so well against some better known sides is worthy of recognition. Inexperience at this level is a potential concern for Gabon, with only a couple of the players still remaining from the 2000 team that finished bottom of their group with just one point from their three games on that occasion. Nevertheless participation at such tournaments is the only way to improve the overall quality of the side, and with matches against Cameroon and Tunisia to look forward to in Angola, Gabon should be able to take much from this tournament regardless of their performance. Fixtures 13th Jan – Cameroon 17th Jan – Tunisia 21st Jan – Zambia Prediction The draw for the tournament could have been far worse for Gabon, and they find themselves in a position to potentially challenge for a place in the quarter finals, although equally Zambia and Tunisia will fancy their chances of taking the second spot behind Cameroon as well. Gabon will need to keep themselves in contention over the course of the first two games, and then look to seize their chance in their final group match against Zambia. A quarter-final place is more than an outside chance, but a potential quarter-final against Nigeria or Egypt from Group C is probably as far as they can realistically hope to get at the tournament. Player to watch Daniel Cousin Captain of the side and veteran of Gabon’s last appearance at the African Cup of Nations back in 2000, Daniel Cousin will have a vital role to play if Gabon are to succeed in pulling off a shock. On loan with QPR after failing to find his best form at Hull City in the Prmeiership, on his day Cousin can be not only an outstanding leader of the attack but also lethal goal-scorer. In Scotland he scored at a rate of nearly 1 in every 2 matches in the SPL, and has a respectable record in France prior to his move across the Channel in 2007. ---------------------- Tunisia Goalkeepers: Adel Nefzi (Club Africain), Aymen Mathlouthi (Etoile du Sahel), Farouk Ben Mustapha (CA Bizertin) Defenders: Khaled Souissi (Club Africain), Karim Haggui (Hannover 96), Radhouene Felhi (1860 Munich), Ammar Jemal (Etoile du Sahel), Souheil Ben Rhadhia (Etoile du Sahel), Khalil Chemmam (Esperance ST), Yassin Mikari (Sochaux), Bilel Ifa (Club Africain) Midfielders: Hocine Ragued (Slavia Prague), Chaouki Ben Saada (Nice), Khaled Korbi (Esperance ST), Oussama Darragi (Esperance ST), Chadi Hammani (CS Sfaxien), Haytham Mrabet (CS Sfaxien), Mohamed Ali Nafkha (Etoile du Sahel) Forwards: Amine Chermiti (Al-Ittihad), Zouheir Dhaouadi (Club Africain), Issam Jemaa (Lens), Youssef Msanki (Esperance), Ahmed Akaichi (Etoile du Sahel) After failing to reach the World Cup for the first time in four attempts, Tunisia will be out to show the rest of the continent that they are still are force to be reckoned with at the 2010 African Cup of Nations. Tunisia suffered the agony of failing to reach the World Cup with barely ten minutes left of their qualifying campaign. After leading the group ahead of Nigeria for the majority of the qualification tournament, they looked set to claim their fourth consecutive place at the FIFA World Cup. Indeed come the final round of matches they needed a mere point against Mozambique, or less, if Nigeria failed to claim a maximum against Kenya. A lack of managerial stability has been a crucial factor, as Tunisia have struggled to recreate their previous good form. The dismissal of Roger Lemerre in 2008 saw Portuguese manager Humberto Coelho installed, but he was given the boot following this most recent failure. The task of leading Tunisia to Angola now falls to Faouzi Benzarti. Nevertheless despite all of the upheaval, the 2010 African Cup of Nations is an excellent chance for the youngsters to show they have what it takes to fill the boots of arguably Tunisia’s most talented ever generation of footballers. With a mixture of players hailing from France and other European leagues combined with some locally based players, it promises to be an educational tournament for Tunisia, and their fans. Fixtures 13th Jan – Zambia 17th Jan – Gabon 21st Jan – Cameroon Prediction Tunisia’s placement into Group D has been relatively kind to them, and their stiffest test may well come in the shape of Cameroon in the final group match, by which time Tunisia will have hoped to have qualified. They would nevertheless do well not to write off Gabon in particular, so the second group match could also assume significant importance in terms of the outcome of the group. Whilst it would still be a shock if Tunisia failed to find their way out of the group, anything more than a quarter-final appearance would probably exceed pre-tournament expectations. Player to watch Karim Haggui Rugged centre-back Karim Haggui will be one of the players responsible for helping to ease Tunisia through what could be a painful transitional process. Having made his debut back in 2003, Haggui is a veteran of the 2006 World Cup, and despite only being 25 has over 60 caps to his name. A summer move to Hannover has also yielded regular first team football, after struggling to get into the senior team at Bayer Leverkusen, and should become a key member of the new-look Tunisia team. ---------------------- Zambia Goalkeepers: Kalilio Kakonje (Ama Zulu), Kennedy Mweene (Free State Stars), Jacob Banda (ZESCO United) Defenders: Dennis Banda (Green Buffaloes), Joseph Musonda (Golden Arrows), Hijani Homoonde (TP Mazembe), Emmanuel Mbola (Pyunik), Stophira Sunzu (Zanaco), Chintu Kampamba (Free State Stars), Thomas Nyrienda (Zanaco) Midfielders: Francis Kasonde (Al-Suwaiq), Issac Chansa (Helsingborgs IF), Felix Katongo (Free State Stars), Noah Chivunta (Maritzburg United), Rainford Kalaba (Uniao de Leiria), William Njovou (Hapoel Kiryat Shmona), Clifford Mulenga (Mpumalanga Black Aces) Forwards: Jacob Mulenga (FC Utrecht), Collins Mbesuma (Moroka Swallows), James Chamanga (Dalian Shide), Given Singuluma (TP Mazembe), Emmanuel Mayuka (Maccabi Tel Aviv) It’s been a turbulent 18 months for the side known as the Copper Bullets, and after qualifying for the 2010 African Cup of Nations with the second lowest points tally, they’ll have their work cut out to make an impact at the tournament. Zambia will arrive in Angola set against a backdrop of internal malaise within the Zambian FA and a weakened squad as the management attempt to find the right balance between talent and team spirit. Set against the backdrop of a demanding Zambian public, who believes that their side are capable of challenging for outright victory at every tournament regardless of the opposition, it’s going to be a difficult challenge for the team to meet expectations. Perhaps disheartened by the lack of cohesion within the Zambian camp, Bwalya recently dismissed several members of the backroom staff close to the senior team following allegations that they leaked details of bonuses and premiums to the media. After failing to claim the 2009 COSAFA Cup, a regional tournament held in Southern Africa in November losing to hosts Zimbabwe in the final after taking the lead, the expectation is that a response will be forthcoming in Angola. Zambia have twice made it to the final, including in 1994 in the immediate aftermath of the tragedy led by Bwalya on the pitch. Now involved in a technical capacity, the hope is that he can work his magic once again with Renard as coach to emulate past glories. Fixtures 13th Jan – Tunisia 17th Jan – Cameroon 21st Jan – Gabon Prediction Drawn into one of the more open groups at the 2010 African Cup of Nations, Zambia certainly have the chance to make it through to the quarter-finals. The two key factors to progression will be their performance in the final match against Gabon and how they fare against big-boys Cameroon. They lost 5-1 to Cameroon two years ago, and will need to avoid such a heavy defeat, as goal-difference may well be a deciding factor in the final shake-up of what is certain to be a fiercely contested group. Player to watch: Emmanuel Mbola Zambia bring into the African Nations the youngest player to compete in the tournament this year. At just 16 years old, the left-back has 16 caps for his national side and is currently plying his trade for Armenian champions FC Pyunik. Introduced into the setup in 2008, Mbola has made his mark across the Zambian faithful and is now a regular in the Copper Bullets XI. He has been linked with big teams across Europe, and with good form following him into the biggest tournament in Africa, this could be the perfect opportunity for him to lead Zambia to their best stage to date and to secure a move to a big club.
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  4. Re: Guide to African Cup of Nations 2010 Group A Angola Goalkeepers: Lama (Petro Atletico), Carlos (Rio Ave), Wilson (Caala) Defenders: Manuel Jamuana (Petro Atletico), Enoque (Santos), Dias Caires (Sagrada Esperanca), Kali (Arles), Rui Marques (Leeds United). Midfielders: David (Petro Atletico), Job (Petro Atletico), Xara (Petro Atletico), Zuela (Kuban Krasnodar), Gilberto (Al-Ahly), Ze Kalanga (Dinamo Bucharest), Dede (Timisoara), Stelvio (Uniao Leiria), Mabina (Petro Atletico) Forwards: Mantorras (Benfica), Johnson Macaba (CRD Libolo), Djalma (Maritimo), Flavio (Al-Shabab), Love (1 de Augusto), Manucho (Real Valladolid) All the attention will be on hosts Angola as they kick off the tournament attempting to make home status count. Whatever the outcome for the Black Antelopes the continued development of the sport is assured, thanks to the staging of the 2010 African Cup of Nations. There are numerous international sides around the world making immense progress in terms of their performance and development. In South America, Venezuela after hosting the Copa America in 2007 are no longer the whipping boys of CONMEBOL qualifying, whilst in Asia, Uzbekistan may not be too far away from their first appearance at a World Cup. In Africa, Angola could arguably claim the title of the fastest improving side on the continent. After failing to even reach the African Cup of Nations until the mid-nineties, Angola rarely played a leading role regionally let alone on a wider stage. However, Angola has seen great strides made in recent years, culminating in the qualification for the World Cup in 2006, plus the privilege of hosting Africa’s most prestigious football tournament four years later. Being selected as the host for such a tournament has seen significant investment not only in the football infrastructure (training facilities, stadiums), but also improvement in general, such as the transport network. Therefore CAF’s (The African Football Federation) far-sighted decision to award the African Cup of Nations to some of the lesser developed nations on the continent, such as Angola, and for 2012 Gabon and Equatorial Guinea, is certainly reaping many benefits. Fixtures 10th Jan – Mali 14th Jan – Malawi 18th Jan – Algeria Prediction The draw has been relatively kind to Angola, so hopes of reaching the quarter finals and equaling the 2008 performance will be high. Their hardest test may come in the final match against Algeria, one of Africa’s representatives for the World Cup. Angola will hope to be as close to qualification as possible by that stage or better yet, already through. The latter scenario would probably require wins in the first two games, something that Angola are capable of. Progress from Group A would then set up a subsequent possible clash against either the heavyweights of Ghana or the Ivory Coast from Group B, so anything more than a quarter-final appearance might be asking a bit much. Player to watch Flavio One of the key players for Angola will be Flavio, playing his trade in Saudi Arabia. With a strike record of around 1 every 3 matches at international level, but also a highly creative and technical player, Angola will be looking to Flavio for some much needed creativity, as well as the odd goal throughout the tournament. At 30 this may be his last major tournament in which he can participate where he might be considered at the peak of his career. ---------------------- Malawi Goalkeepers: Swadick Sanudi (Dynamos), Simplex Nthala (MTL Wanderers), Charles Swini (ESCOM United) Defenders: Moses Chavula (Nathi Lions), James Sangala (1 Agosto), Allan Kamaga (Dynamos), Peter Maponda (Black Leopards), Elvis Kafoteka (ESCOM United), Maupo Msowoya (ESCOM United), Harry Nyirenda (MTL Wanderers) Midfielders: Peter Wadabwa (Thanda Royal Zulu), Jacob Ngwira (Caraca Kicks), Joseph Kamwendo (Orlando Pirates), Hellings Mwakasungula (Silver Strikers), Robert N’Gambi (Black Leopards), Davi Banda (Red Lions), Peter Mgangira (Silver Strikers) Forwards: Chiukepo Msowya (AFR FC), Russel Mwafulirwa (IFK Norrkoping), Essau Kanyenda (FC KAMAZ), Victor Nyirenda (ESCOM United), Jimmy Zakazaka (Bay United), Atusaye Nyondo (Caraca Kicks) With the worst record of any of the 15-qualified teams represented at the 2010 African Cup of Nations, it will be an uphill battle for Malawi to make any impression at the tournament. Malawi will arrive in Angola with the worst record from qualifying mustering just four points from their six matches. Nevertheless over the past 18 months The Flames, have posted one or two noteworthy results, including a victory over Egypt and holding the Ivory Coast to a draw, so they shouldn’t be dismissed out of hand. Of all the teams playing at the 2010 African Cup of Nations, none have as little international experience as Malawi, so simply participating at such a level will be of enormous benefit as they attempt to improve. Despite being minnows at the 1984 event, much like they will be in 2010, they certainly didn’t disgrace themselves, claiming a point off Nigeria and only going down a 1-0 defeat to Ghana. Since that initial promising performance Malawi have failed to get close to qualifying again and recent attempts hardly boded well. Fixtures 11th Jan – Algeria 14th Jan – Angola 18th Jan – Mali Prediction As minnows not only in Group A but in the entire tournament, it will be a steep learning curve for this Malawian team. Therefore it’s quite conceivable that their three matches could quite possibly end in three defeats. Nevertheless taking lessons away from playing the like of Algeria, and Mali from the 2010 Africa Cup of Nations will be the most important aspect of this competition. If the future development of the game ensures that qualification for this tournament becomes less sporadic and improves performances in the regional tournaments, then their time in Angola will be considered a success regardless of the outcome. Player to watch Essau Kanyenda With one of the less well-known squads on the continent, Malawi will certainly have the advantage of surprise on their side. One of only two European based players is forward Essau Kanyenda currently plying his trade in the Russian Second Division with FC KAMAZ. With three goals in qualifying, including a hat-trick against Djibouti, Malawi will be relying heavily on the 27-year-old to continue finding the back of the net at the 2010 African Cup of Nations. ---------------------- Mali Goalkeepers: Mahmadou Sidibe (Omonia Nicosia), Soumbelia Diakite (Stade Malien), Oumar Sissoko (Metz) Defenders: Ousmane Berthe (Jomo Cosmos), Adama Tamboura (Helsingborgs), Souleymane Diamoutene (Bari), Bakary Soumare (Boulogne), Abdoulaye Maiga (Stade Malien) Midfielders: Soumba Sow (Lens), Mahamadou Diarra (Real Madrid), Seydou Keita (Barcelona), Abdou Traore (Bordeaux), Bakaye Traore (Nancy), Mahmane El Hadji Traore (Nice), Mohamed Sissoko (Juventus), Lassana Fane (Al-Merreikh) Forwards: Tenema N’Diaye (Nantes), Mamadou Diallo (Le Havre), Mamadou Bagayoko (Nantes), Modibo Maiga (Le Mans), Mamadou Samassa (Valenciennes), Fredi Kanoute (Sevilla), Mustapha Yatabare (Clermont Foot) Mali suffer from one of the most common problems in international football; the sum of the total simply doesn’t seem to equal the parts. Able to call on the explosive striking power of Fredi Kanoute and midfield powerhouses Mahamadou Diarra and Seydou Keita, Mali should be match for anyone on the African continent. It simply hasn’t worked out that way, with qualification for the 2010 African Cup of Nations far from straight-forward. Until relatively recently Malian football had largely gone unnoticed, as the side known as The Eagles played in relative obscurity in West Africa. They didn’t even bother attempting to qualify for a World Cup until 2000 and saved their best form for the African Cup of Nations. However, with the like of Mahamadou Diarra, Seydou Keita and Fredi Kanoute all coming through the European scene simultaneously, Mali suddenly found itself with its most talented generation of footballers in a few decades. The arrival of the like of Keita and Diarra couldn’t have been better timed, as it also coincided with the 2002 hosting of the African Cup of Nations, a tournament during which they reached the semi-finals, their best ever performance since the epic run to the final some 30-years previously. The addition of Fredi Kanoute to the side when FIFA relaxed its rules regarding eligibility at senior level, should have been the final piece needed to launch Mali to the very highest echelon of African football, but nothing could be further from the truth. Further improvement has occurred in qualification for the 2010 African Cup of Nations, which also doubled up as World Cup qualifying, despite the slightly lacklustre third place finish in the second phase group behind Benin and Ghana. Nevertheless away-day defeats in the first round of qualifying to the Congo and Sudan, and draws away to Benin and Sudan in the second phase, indicate there is still much to be done before Mali can be considered genuine threats to the supremacy of the like of Egypt and the Ivory Coast. Fixtures 10th Jan – Angola 14th Jan – Algeria 18th Jan – Malawi Prediction Drawn into Group A, arguably one of the weakest of the four pools, Mali would at first glance appear to be the strongest team of the section. However, they will face their toughest two games first, including in the first game of the 2010 African Cup of Nations the fired-up hosts of the tournament Angola. Therefore they may need a final match-day win against Malawi to assure themselves of a position in the quarter-finals, which given their erratic form is by no-means a foregone conclusion. Precisely how far Mali can go remains a subject of debate; if they can find their best game they will be match for any side at the tournament, but if they fail to perform they may find themselves frozen out of the knock-out stage altogether. Player to watch Seydou Keita Mali’s strength at the 2010 African Cup of Nations will undoubtedly lie in midfield where they can call on several talented individuals. Arguably the strongest of several outstanding players is Barcelona’s Seydou Keita. The former Sevilla midfielder arrived at the Camp Nou some 18 months ago as a mainly defensive thinking midfield-holder, but has blossomed this season into an all-round player contributing several important goals, mainly from long-range. Mali will certainly be relying on Keita to link the midfield to the attack, to get the best out of Fredi Kanoute, who is likely to be the main danger in the attack. ---------------------- Algeria Goalkeepers: Lounes Gaouaoui (ASO Chlef), Faouzi Chaouchi (ES Setif), Mohammed Zemmamouche (USM Alger) Defenders: Slimane Raho (ES Setif), Anthar Yahia (Bochum), Nadir Belhadj (Portsmouth), Madjid Bougherra (Glasgow Rangers), Samir Zaoui (ASO Chlef), Rafik Halliche (Nacional de Madeira), Reda Babouche (MC Algiers) Midfielders: Yazid Mansouri (Lorient), Karim Ziani (Wolfsburg), Yacine Bezzaz (Strasbourg), Karim Matmour (Borussia Moechengladbach), Khaled Lemmouchia (ES Setif), Hameur Bouazza (Blackpool), Mourad Meghni (Lazio), Hassan Yebda (Portsmouth), Djamel Abdoun (Nantes) Forwards: Rafik Saifi (Al-Khor), Abelkader Ghezzal (Siena), Abelmalak Ziaya (ES Setif) It’s been a remarkable turnaround for Algeria. After their surprise qualification for the World Cup, a side once written off is on the verge of taking part in the world’s greatest football tournament, and Algeria will be using the 2010 African Cup of Nations as rehearsal for the main event Algeria certainly rank as one of the more surprising qualifiers for the World Cup to be held in the summer, and pundits and fans alike will be looking to see precisely how the side known as the Fennecs fare in Angola. It wasn’t that long ago Algerian fans were deserting their side in their droves, but since the qualification in controversial circumstances over their North African neighbours Egypt in a play-off, the Algerian team has once again become hot property. Algeria’s recent progress was most evident in the qualifying for the 2010 African Cup of Nations, which also doubled up as qualifying for the World Cup. In the initial group phase they came out on top of the Gambia and Senegal in a tightly contested group, whilst in the second phase the home win over near neighbours Egypt proved crucial to setting up the play-off, which Algeria won to secure their passage to South Africa in the summer. However, the qualification also indicated that Algeria are still far from being able to rank themselves alongside the very best on the continent, especially in terms of their attack, which saw them draw blanks against the like of Rwanda, Liberia and Gambia, at various stages of the qualification. Fixtures 11th Jan – Malawi 14th Jan – Mali 18th Jan – Angola Prediction With the Fennecs concentrating on performance over results, it’s difficult to make any sort of accurate prediction regarding the outcome of Algeria’s 2010 African Cup of Nations. The matches against Mali and hosts Angola will both be difficult yet useful encounters for the Algerian management to assess where the squad needs improvement. A quarter-final appearance against one of the Group B heavyweights Ghana or the Ivory Coast is certainly not out of the question, but will also potentially expose Algeria’s shortcomings in attack. Player to watch Karim Ziani Karim Ziani, the star of Algerian football, doesn’t play his football in France like much of the squad, but in Germany, after moving to the Bundesliga in the summer in a £7 million deal to reigning champions Wolfsburg. The midfielder playmaker struggled to find his best form for Marseille after catching the eye on a consistent basis with Sochaux prior to an £11-million transfer to the Stade Velodrome. With crucial goals in the qualifying matches against Liberia and Rwanda, much will be expected of Ziani in Angola.
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  5. Re: Russian & Ukrainian Ratings and Analysis Really deserves a rise to 88. Since his debut' date=' subbing on for Diakathe at halftime agst Vorskla back in August, to say he has been a regular fixture of the Kiev defence is an understatement. Since then he has played every single minute (not subbed once!) of Kiev's 11 league games, 5 Champions League games (missed 0-0 draw with Rubin due to 1 match ban for 3 yellows) & 2 Ukrainian Cup games. He has made a very impressive start to life at Kiev, so much so that the player he was bought to replace, Diakathe, has been sent out on loan to St Etienne. Along with Khacheridi, he is the future of the Kiev defence. I believe he really warrants an 89. His last rise was in Nov '08, a +4 rise to 86. Rubin had just won their first league title & Bukharov became a regular starting striker in the second half of that season. He started the 2009 slowly & picked up an injury in mid-April. When Russia was reviewed at the end of June '09, he had only made 4 starts, 2subs & had scored 2, so he didn't rise. (along with the majority of Rubin players!). Only a week or so later, in early July, he returned to the side & scored a hat-trick in his first game back as Rubin won 3-2 away at Khimki. Of Rubin's final 19 league games on their way to a 2nd consecutive title, Bukharov started 17 games & scored 14 goals, including another hat-trick. He missed 1 league & 1 CL game (Barca) in October with a dislocated shoulder & then in December, the final league game & the final CL group game vs Inter. This time with an injured wrist that he had surgery a month ago. As for Champions League, Rubin surprised a lot of people, along with Kiev, in taking Barca & Inter right down to the wire. However Bukharov, with 3 starts & 1 sup appearance, is still to score his first CL goal. In addition to that, in October he picked up his first Russian cap, coming on for the last half in their WC qualifier in Azerbaijan. So with Dominguez having moved to Valencia last month, Bukharov has now become even more important to the 2 times Russian champions. I currently expect Russia & Ukraine to be reviewed toward the end of February.
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  6. Re: United Nations Climate Change Conference 2009 It's too bad this was such a shiiiiitshow. It really is. As soon as you saw Mugabe's ugly mug there (let alone the fact that they actually gave him a soap-box to speak) you know this was going to be a failure. And for everyone who thinks that Obama is the leader that the world has been waiting for to kick-start things like the important suggestions that this conference was filled with, be prepared to be disappointed. Dude is the Ultimate Fail. Sadly, he's the first reality-show President. (head-shake) At least that reality-show noob Spencer from The Hills can make a decision about something. Our Head Noob in Washington can't even do that. Anyway Philippe, I saw this posted by Thom Yorke of Raidohead the other day. Basically it's an email from Ben Sherman @ Greenpeace to Thom Yorke. Who's Ben Sherman...? He's the guy whose unenviable job it is to keep the environmental agenda in the headlines. Here' his email about the Conference (be prepared to be sadly disappointed): "The most progressive U.S. President in a generation comes to the most important international meeting since the Second World War and delivers a speech so devoid of substance that he might as well have made it on speakerphone from a beach in Hawaii. His aides argue in private that he had no choice, such is the opposition on Capitol Hill to any action that might challenge the dominance of fossil fuels in American life. And so the nation which put a man on the moon can’t summon the collective will to protect men and women back here on Earth from the consequences of an economic model and lifestyle choice that has taken on the mantel of a religion. Then a Chinese Premier who is in the process of converting his Communist nation to that new faith (high-carbon consumer capitalism) takes such umbrage at Obama’s speech that he refuses to meet – refuses, in fact, to do much of anything beyond sulking in his hotel room, as if this were a teenager’s house party instead of a final effort to stave off the breakdown of our biosphere. Late in the evening the two men meet and cobble together a collection of paragraphs which they call a ‘deal’, although in reality it has all the meaning and authority of a bus ticket, not that it stops them affixing their signatures to it with great solemnity. Obama’s team then briefs the traveling White House press pack – most of whom, it seems, understand about as much about global climate politics as our own lobby hacks know about baseball – and before we know it the New York Times and CNN are declaring the birth of a ‘meaningful’ accord. Meanwhile a friend on an African delegation emails to say that he and many fellow members of the G77 block of developing countries are streaming into the corridors after a long discussion about the perilous state of the talks, only to see Obama on the television announcing that the world has a deal. It’s the first they’ve heard about it, and a few minutes later, as they examine the text, they realise very quickly that it effectively condemns their continent to a century of devastating temperature rises. By now the European leaders – who know this thing is a farce but have to present it to their publics as progress – have their aides phoning the directors of civil society organisations spinning that the talks have been a success. A success? This deal crosses so many of the red lines laid out by Europe before this summit started that there are scarlet skid marks across the floor of the Bella Centre, and one honest European diplomat tells us this is a ‘ttty tttty deal.’ Quite. This deal is beyond bad. It contains no legally binding targets and no indication of when or how they’ll come about. There isn’t even a declaration that the world will aim to keep global temperature rises below 2 degrees C – instead leaders merely ‘recognise the science’ behind that vital threshold, as if that were enough to prevent us crossing it. The only part of this deal anyone sane came close to welcoming was the $100bn global climate fund, but it’s now becoming apparent that even that’s largely made up of existing budgets, with no indication of how new money will be raised and distributed so poorer countries can go green and adapt to climate change. Not all of our politicians deserve the opprobrium of a dismayed world. Our own Ed Miliband fought hard on no sleep for a better outcome, while President Lula of Brazil offered to financially assist other developing countries to cope with climate change and put a relatively bold carbon target on the table. But the EU didn’t move on its own commitment (one so weak we’d actually have to work hard not to meet it) while the United States offered nothing and China stood firm. Before the talks began I was of the opinion that we would only know Copenhagen was a success when plans for new coal-fired power stations across the developed world were dropped. If the giant utilities saw in the outcome of Copenhagen an unmistakable sign that governments were now determined to act, and that coal plants this century would be too expensive to run under the regime agreed at this meeting, then this summit would have succeeded. Instead, as the details of the agreement emerged last night we received reports of Japanese opposition MPs popping champagne corks as they savoured the possible collapse of their new government’s carbon targets. It’s not just that we haven’t got to where we needed to be, we’ve actually ceded huge ground. There is nothing in this deal – nothing – that would persuade an energy utility that the era of dirty coal is over. And the implications for humanity of that simple fact are profound. I know we greens are partial to hyperbole. We use language as a bludgeon to direct attention to the crisis we’re facing, and you’ll hear much more of it in the coming days and weeks. But really, it’s no exaggeration to describe the outcome of Copenhagen as an historic failure that will live in infamy. In a single day, in a single space, a spectacle was played out in front of a disbelieving audience of people who have read and understood the stark warnings of humanity’s greatest scientific minds - and what they witnessed was nothing less than the very worst instincts of our species articulated by the most powerful men who ever lived. I will leave the last word to the late Kurt Vonnegut Jr., who would have given voice to the insanity of Copenhagen better than I ever could, and whose poem Requiem is perhaps appropriate at this moment: ‘When the last living thing, has died on account of us, how poetical it would be if Earth could say, in a voice floating up, perhaps from the floor of the Grand Canyon, “It is done. People did not like it here”.’
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  7. How to Find Risers by Yourself Can someone tell me 70 risers in Italy? Does anyone know 80+ players that'll rise? Those type of question is very familiar nowadays at this forum, especially at Player Assistance section. This maybe become instant way for some of you to get risers without wasting your time. But, it's better to find risers by yourself because you'll be confident with your own research. Risers is important part of SM. Everyone who play SM must be know about this, because rising player become the easiest way to spin money quickly. But sometimes, people confused how they can find risers by themselves. So, how we can start to find risers by ourselves? 1. Choose League Where You Want To Do Your Research To start your own research, concentrate to only 1 league first.. Also, remember that SM standard for every country is different. For UEFA member, SM ratings also based on UEFA league coefficient. Here is the current rank for league at Europe : This means SM will rate players on those perspective league on different way. @~ For example, Marc Janko who has scored 39 goals last season at Austrian league only rated 88 while Alvaro Negredo get his 90 last season only by scored 19 goals at La Liga with Almeria 2.Using Trusted Website So, after you decide the league you want to do research, you'll need some of these sites to help you to find risers.. http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ Contain stats from many league all around the world. One of the best stats site http://guardian.touch-line.com/ Same as Transfermarkt, with many league stats in it www.football-lineups.com Easy to access with search faclities. Also we can found in what position a player play in every matches But, after you look the stats maybe you'll still ask, how i know that a player is riser and how much he'll rise? See The Club Position See How Much A Player Play Since The Last Changes Compare How SM Rate Player on Those League Last Year See The Club Position First, look at where the position of the club. For example, in Eredivisie. SM has a kind of informal standard to decide the ratings here. Club who are in Champions League spot usually has maximum rating at 90, Europa League spot at 88-89 , mid table area at 86-87 and lower mid at 83-86. So, if you find player X at PSV (who's in Champions league spot) played 1000 minute out of possible 1100 minute and only rated 76 with average club rating is 87, he'll go up to around 83 while if Player Y with same stats but played with RKC Waalwijk (who's at relegation zone) and average rating 83 for starter, he may go to 80-81 See How Much A Player Play Since The Last Changes Sometimes, you found a player who only play few matches in a season but he may play a lot of games after last rating changes and it'll rise his rating For example, from 16 league games so far with Partizan Belgrade at Serbian league, Player X only played 8 games totalling 720 minutes (that mean he only played in half of total games). But, 8 games that he played all after the last Serbian changes that reviwed at September while he only missed 1 game since last changes. While he's rated 79 while most of Partizan starter rated around 84, he'll go up to around 82-83 in next changes. Compare How SM Rate Player on Those League Last Year You also need to compare how SM rate the club based on the position last year. Example, if Bari currently at 8th position when the change nearly come, you should see how SM rate 8th pos last season (for example, it's Sampdoria). If Sampdoria starter rated around 85-89, while some of Bari stater still rated around 80-83, then they will rise in the changes to boost the club average rating.. 3. Watch Live Football This is the easiest way if you don't want to look number of stats or etc. Just watch and you'll decide which players you think has talent or potential to be nice riser So, it's my tip and you can start your research
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  9. Re: Guide to African Cup of Nations 2010 Thanks for the feedback Appiah was left out because I don't think he was playing regular? only found a club recently in a year and a bit iirc but I have no idea . The Togo incident I found out on the train on the way back from the Albion but is a total tragedy and a shame that things like this can still happen. There's a chance I might do some match reports but with college and exams coming up, only a few will probably be done. Unless more snow cancels college then I will yes! Thanks again
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  10. Re: Dutch Championship 131 Discussion Thread Made A Match Report Banner Extremely Bored
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  11. Re: My Manchester United Report UNITED SIGN OLIVA Today Manchester United completed the signing of Argentinian youngster Maximiliano Oliva from River Plate, for a fee of around a quarter of a million pounds.
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  12. Re: Forumer's World Cup Discussion Thread Round Up, Groups 1-4 Group 1. This group is now five days in, and has seemingly sorted itself out. With only 2 days left, and 50 votes already cast, the positions are unlikely to change. 1CapWonder is leading the way on 18 votes, 3 points ahead of fellow ec106er Barracuda. The Big fish then has a 5 point margin separating him and despair. By despair I mean not qualifying, not Longnose... Longnose has come a long way to make it to these group stages, and has done himself proud. The foxy conservative has racked up 10 votes in a very tricky group, and him and Didi have more than held their own. Of course, anything can still happen... Group 2. 3 days remain in group 2, and it is still all to play for. MsF has 48% of the votes. That's like what, the share of the market owned by CocaCola. Quite partial to a bit of Coke, although Pulp Fiction put me off it a little. DerbyPower and David Belkevitz are fighting the battle for the second qualification spot, and it is as tight as can be right now. I'm going to once again resist the temptation of the obvious jokes there, but it is neck and neck. Both are on 10, and with 52 votes already in and counted, a single vote could secure it for either one of them. Who knows, 4 new accounts later and maybe drseanfitz could be in the driving seat! Group 3. The world was in shock this morning as it had been revealed Pazzano had coped with the urge of voting for himself again, and had gone in the favour of Philippe Nguyen. Sources that claim it was a slip of the mouse are unconfirmed. Pazzano infact is risking causing an upset, as he threatens to knock out one of the tournament favourites, in Kensational. Naturally, the black South African centre back is winning the foot race, but the battle for 2nd is yet another tie, and could really go either way. Get odds of 12/1 on Kensational casting his vote in favour of Pazzano. Group 4. Early reports suggested that this would be the group of death, but these rumours have since been quashed, with a giant Welshman commanding the vote. For the third time in the space of four groups, there is a tie for second. Neller and Bob both have 11 points, and the result could well boil down to their contrasting styles of comedy. Bob is rather dry with his wit, where as Neller is downright outrageous with his. I could have sworn I saw him mention that Liverpool would escape the drop the other day. Maybe Seft will have something to say in the final positions, there are still 4 days left after all.
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  13. Re: Help With Deal(s) Thread...
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  14. Re: Help With Deal(s) Thread... You Have Lucio Yeah In 61? Hell Yeah, Lucio Is Getting No Younger (Still A Safe 94) But If You Don't Need A Replacement I'd Much Rather Have Aquilani & Berba-Flop. The Latter Seems To Have cemented a spot in the starting XI and is safe on 93, while Aquilani I believe shall not flop and can rise when he can retain a good standard of fitness and get some good minutes under his belt {he doesn't really have a belt btw, it's a figure of speech }.
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  15. Re: Official Gold Championships Discussions Thread Two games tonight, GC 83 Celtic lose 2-0 at home to Porto, with second side. GC 42 Lyon beat Rennes 2-1 away in the French Cup Semi Final. Final against Toulouse on thursday.
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  16. Re: Players: Should I buy, sell or keep? +1 rise I believe. He has played his share in Sevilla this season, despite the strong opposition in Luis Fabiano and Kanoute. Furthermore, the last season wasn't totally considered in the Spanish's last ratings change, and Negredo was one of the best goalscorers. And he has played for the Spanish NT too.
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  17. Re: Official Gold Championships Discussions Thread Did you not read the last page? He only lol comes back lol when he's bored lol.
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  18. Re: Available Teams, No Job Offers! (GC Teams Only!) Zenit GC 72
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  19. Re: Official Gold Championships Discussions Thread
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  20. Re: L3E5Y'S Graphics [NEW] One For My Championship Please ASK For One
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  21. Re: Help With Deal(s) Thread...
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  23. Re: Players: Should I buy, sell or keep? If you take a look at how Italian teams fare in Europe, you must conclude that the level has, relatively to other leagues, come way down since the 90's when Serie A was the uncontested biggest league of world. In fact, still during the first half of the just passed decade Serie A was counted as the strongest league, while it now is about equal to French and German top levels and far from the Spanish and English competition. Of course, one can defend Serie A by saying that it has come more even while La Liga and EPL have become more unbalanced, the bottom table clubs being utter rubbish while the top 4 are super competitive, and perhaps it is so, perhaps Lazio could beat every team in the bottom half of EPL, but it is hard to tell if it so. What can be told is that Italian teams get whooped in Europe.
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  24. Re: Gold Championship 19 Match Report and Transfer News Catania Pre-Season After Catania bagged promotion to the promised land the manager made it very clear he was going all out for the cups. Catania found themselves in 3 cup competitions including the SMFA Shield which they entered as a result of winning the Italian Shield. Start to the Season Catania started the season in breathtaking fashion winning 8 of their first 10 games which included a 7 game winning run in all competitions. They saw of New England Revolution easily in the first round of the SMFA Shield beating them 9-1 on aggregate. Their 2 loses came against Milan in the Shield and the league. After beating Spezia in the first round of the Italian Shield Catania were given a daunting task of facing Milan, a game which they narrowly lost 2-1. Their wins included a 4-2 beating of Juventus with their second team as Akash stuck to his rule of giving Cups more importance. Mid Season Akash then incurred the wrath of the Catania fans when he practically sold of the entire promotion winning squad of last season and replaced them with younger and what he claims as better players. Crowd favourite Nery Castillo was also flogged. Arrivals included the likes of Shaun Maloney, Camozzato, Bardsley. Elias, Marcio Araujo and many more. An amazing 125 million+ was spent on rebuilding the entire squad but Catania recouped about 95 million sales as well. Their form naturally stuttered during this period as Akash was still not sure about his best lineup however as the players got used to each other the form started to get better again. Current Status Catania currently find themselves in 8th position and occupy the last SMFA Shield position. They progressed to the 3rd round of the Italian Cup, a competition where they reached the final last year by beating Sampdoria 4-0. They next face Atalanta a game which they expect to win. Their campaign in the SMFA Shield is alive and kicking and face Racing Santander in the first leg of the semifinals in a few days. Catania shocked some better sides on paper to get this far and in Racing they face another side which is better than them on paper.
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  25. Re: BREAKING NEWS: Togo Team Bus Fired Upon! its in angola not algeria, another proud moment for goal.com and their accuracy
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  26. Re: Section <8> (Portugal,Spain,Italy), Risers/Moneymakers. (Updated, 07-01-2010) Have you got a problem with the author of this thread? Christ... give the bloke a break. Your not a teacher by any chance?....... Maxpayne - you must do better!!!
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  27. Re: Official Gold Championships Discussions Thread @ Nin - GC84 - You Can Have Kacar & Airton on loan as I said yesterday Oh and Replied to SM's ticket asking why I had been removed in GC19 and it was closed without answer. Pathetic tbh.
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  28. Re: English Championship 106 - Transfer/Gossip thread Blackburn Rovers 2-0 Liverpool Ten Man Blackburn Stun Liverpool! 10 man Blackburn showed tremendous resilience and Grit to overcome a Liverpool side filled with attacking talent to register their first win of the campaign. Blackburn predicted by the Sun to lose 4-1 will be delighted to get the 3 points after a 2-0 reverse against Arsenal on the opening day. Blackburn had their first chance 12 minutes into the game when last seasons Golden boot winner Jose Sand missed a free header and headed over the bar. 2 minutes later Juan Mata received a yellow after a dangerous tackle. The Spaniard who looked unusually aggressive would regret this later in the half. With 20 minutes gone Blackburn finally made their pressure count as Andrei Arshavin smashed a half volley into the net to send the crowd into a frenzy. Blackburn were rampant now and it only looked to be a question of time before Blackburn got their 2nd. Mata who was causing upteen problems for the Liverpool backline had his shot just scream wide of the mark. However with 4 minutes left in the half the game turned sour. Mata got his second booking of the night and received his marching orders. Instead of heading straight down the tunnel Mata had some words to say to the Liverpool fans who had booed him for the entire half. Pitchsiders reveal the comment was regarding the accent of the scousers. Mata dismayed at getting sent off! The second half began with Liverpool having the upper hand and Ribery nearly scored but Kuranyi was on hand to clear the ball. And 6 minutes after the break Blackburn were desperately unlucky not to be 2 up as Kuranyi shot smashed into the crossbar. A minute later Blackburn were almost made to pay for it but Xavi somehow missed an easy tap in. Ribery sensing the tiring Blackburn defense began to run them ragged and his low shot just swirled wide. However Blackburn always looked a threat on the counter and Arshavin almost sealed the game but his chip was cleared of the line by the waiting defender. With 15 minutes to go Akash decided to make a tactical switch. He switched from a 3-4-1-2 to a 3-5-2. Jose Sand was replaced by Milos Krasic and Arshavin played of the main striker Kuranyi. And it proved to be a masterstroke as 4 minutes later Krasic bundled the ball over the line to score his first Blackburn goal and extend the lead. From then on Liverpool never looked like they had the belief of turning it around the game finished 2-0. Simao: I had Sex with paris In a startling revelation Simao Arsenal's new 23 million signing has revealed explicit details regarding his romp with Rochdale manager's girl.
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  29. Re: Help With Deal(s) Thread... Both are very good players. Fabiano is the talisman for Brazil and their star striker. Higuain is younger and just began getting international game time. He has been linked to Arsenal in a swap with Fabregas but I doubt it will happen. Higuain has been in great form scoring 10 goals in 13 games. He could rise. Fabiano has 8 in 10 and is solid at 93. Don't do it.
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    Re: Sergio BUSQUETS henry dosent deserve place after what he did us (Ireland)
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  32. Re: Huddersfield Town Blog. My second game, and a 1-0 away win against a Villa team with 11 players between 91 and 95, six 93's included and many more on 88-90. A team like that should not be in the second division. I want to keep it up against Charlton on Saturday, but I am getting more canny at the tactical end of things. I still don't trust the match engine or like those **** poxy end of game player ratings, I was on 5 and 6 mostly and Villa had a better match rating than I. I wish it was more like the old days, 8's and 9's, even though that was not realistic either. SM don't do things unless it's extreme do they! Another major signing is Laurent Bonnart. He is a safe 89, and even though I don't need him, his 7.5 million price was really cheap for a player of his rating. I will likely get a lot more for him in a p/e down the road. I have still plenty of money left, and players to swap, for a few players that will be available later on. I doubt anybody looks at the transfer list, instead there are cries out on the forum for a such and such for a cheap price. I notice that English players fetch massive prices on this game, or at least in this setup. I may have to try and sign a few myself. A serbian and a pair of Swedish kids were signed to sell later on. My squad stands at 114 players, but I aim to cut that down drastically soon enough. My problem is every player will rise again so I am always reluctant to sell. Now onto the last part of my squad review. I really should not bother with the risers and the like but I will. Wingers. Govou, 91. He was a big signing for me last season, and I hope that he can put in a good match average. Otherwise what's the point signing them. Also, does an 91 who averages 7 play better than an 87 who scores the same? If it doesn't matter, than should I ditch those underachieving players. Karim Ziani, 89. He is TL, but I'm not giving him away for peanuts. I will probably use him in a p/e down the road. Dempsey, 88. A player who may have a great World Cup, and is still good enough to hit 90 at some stage I believe. It's great having an American player seeing as I live here and all. Plasil, 88. A semi-regular for Bordeaux, he will have plenty of games to play and I give him a good shout to hit 89 if he remains playing. Salvio, 87. Another major talent from Argentina I have here, and one who is surely bound for a good European time in the not to distant future. Bisewar, 86. A player in Holland who is still young and set to rise again. Sigamary Diarra, 85. A good riser from France who I will sell on. Matias De Federico, 84. We'll see how he does in Brazil but he should do okay and rise a few more. Fabio Coentrao, 83. A very good rise still to come from this young player from Portugal. He is an international to boot. Elias Hernandez, 83. A good riser to come from Mexico. One that should hit 86 or so. And one that should be added to Bezron's thread. Marco Reus, 80. He should have rose to 83/84 the last time, and right now I am hoping for SM to make up that rise and put him to 85/86. I have him TL for 4 million which is what I would be able to sell him for if he got his rise, but I'm not giving him away. If he was English I would get 6 million tomorrow. Sismanoglu, 78. A riser I had seen that played a few towards the end for a suprise first team in Turkey. So a bigger rise is on the cards, but do I hold onto him for another 6 months? Diaz, 78. Another who should hit 82 maybe in the next French changes, but can I hold onto him for that long? I think he will go well before then. Rodrigo Salinas, 76. One player who I have held onto. He only rose 2 from 74, and I was expecting 80. Well I am expecting 83 to make up for that, although it will likely be a lot less. Forwards. Martins, 89. He is on the TL, but I will be using him in a p/e deal. He may be kept if he scores a few more for me though, but I don't think that the SM match engine deserves that much credit. Bendtner, 88. A signing I payed a lot of money for. I was looking through forwards one night and I seen Liedson available so I put in a bid. Later on I seen Bendtner available and so I took the players I was using in my earlier bid and used them for Bendtner. That was a big bid. But now I wish I took Liedson. At the time Bendtner was looking for a rise, but he got injured. Anyhoo, I could still fetch a big price for him if I decide to sell.We'll see. Hauche, 87. He should hit 87 and move to Europe. He was cheap, Moisander and cash I think, as I was going to bid on another Argentinian, Barrios, but he would have cost me 2 players. Dentinho, 86. Should rise to 87, but then I may sell him unless the Insider says not to. He is still young, but so are most of my team. Schieber, 82. Someone who got rated twice in two days. A regular for Stuggart and someone who should hit 85/86 then. Jonathan Reis, 80. He will be a big riser for PSV, and one I will be holding onto. 85 or 86 is expected from him. Papazoglou, 78. I thought he would have got a bit more in the Greek ratings, but he will be swapped out for someone. Antenucci, 76. A good riser from Italy's second division. Carlitos, 76. A decent riser from Portugal. Prgomet, 70. A great riser from Croatia. Soufiane Dadda, 60. My first player of that rating and one who should go way over +10, and is worth holding onto for the fact that he is only on 300 bob a week. He has had a few games in Holland. Centre Forwards. Negredo, 90. I hear he may hit 91, but I doubt it. I remember buying him elsewhere when he was an 89, and expected to rise. But he did not. SM don't throw out those high ratings to easily. He should be a future 91. Berg, 89. He is safe on his 89. I payed a lot of money for him, but he was injured for so much of last season for me. Makukula, 88. I was suprised to see the top scorer in Turkey available when I signed him at 87. If he keeps it up, 89 is there for him. I will sell him though. Mitroglou, 86. A great +4 from him in Greece, and I expect a +2 next. Edgar, 83. He is scoring a lot in Portugal and 85/86 would be welcome. Bunjaku, 83. Was signed when he was 80, and will be sold even though he is still scoring in Germany. Emilio Nsue, 78. A talent and a riser from Spain's best second division team. Vasiliou, 75. Another I thought would rise higher from Greece. Bahoui, 72. A riser from Sweden. Pandza, 70. A riser from Bosnia. Panic, 70. A good riser from Serbia. Well that's all my team right now, but I will have to sell some when this new AI lark comes about. These posts have taken too much out of my short life. Thank you all that are still reading, you know who you are, Sean.
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  35. Re: Russian & Ukrainian Ratings and Analysis My post was about Leandro Almeida' date=' i guess you agree with me apart from the last line! But let's look at Khacheridi. Personally I think he will have a very big future at Kiev. I certainly think it is very harsh to lay the blame of Ukraine's WC demise at his feet. If Ukraine had managed to actually score in either game with Greece it would have helped. Don't forget he has come from nowhere in the past year to be playing regularly for Kiev in the league & CL. On top of that he's been recognised by his national coach too. That ain't too shabby! Khacheridi broke a bone in his foot in the WCQ in November & has been out since then. Yussuf was fit when Khacheridi was starting, they started quite a few games together, he certainly isn't his back-up! I pretty much agree on all but 2 of your Kiev ratings. The aforementioned Khacheridi warrants an 86 & Husev will get his rise to 89. Dont forget Kiev last season took the league title back from Shaktar, a far better rated side, & look like they could well do the same again. I do think SM will take that into account. Anyway, good work guys. I look forward to chipping in with a few posts on the thread.
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  36. Re: Egyptian Premier League Analysis and Ratings Okay, so Al Gaish, Military Production (Entag Al Harby), and Police Union (Ittihad Al Shorta) have all been added. In addition, I'm going back to each team and changing the "No longer plays for (X Team)" to "Transferred from (X Team) to (Y Team)" to make it easier for the SM reviewers if they do use this thread as well as those who are using this thread to keep an eye on the Egyptian league. I'm also making a few minor updates in the thread as well (such as using all the Arabic names of the teams, not switching between El and Al too much, keeping the name structure of the players relatively constant, etc) Anyway, thought I'd take a break from updating the thread and such to give a roundup of the big transfer news around the league: The biggest news is that Shikabala, Zamalek's playmaker, may be on his way to Napoli. The bid is said to be about 3 million euros, or 25 million egyptian pounds, a pretty huge sum for an Egyptian player who's had such a rocky career. Anyway, I'll keep tabs to see if this develops into anything. Next up is Mido, who according to skysports.com (the link I have is from filgoal.com, but orginal report is from Sky Sports), "is on the shortlist of two Premiership clubs". I would think that its safe to say that one of them is Portsmouth, but I have no idea what the other team is. In any case, I hope that something comes of this, Mido has been fairly professional and mature despite Shehata's constant snubs and thus the relative failure of his return to Zamalek, and so I think a return to the Premier League would be very fair. Following Mido is Amr Zaki, who's career just keeps going from worse to worse. After missing practice for five straight days following his snub from ACN 2010 roster, Zamalek have transfer listed Amr Zaki. The club claims that "Any worthy offer will be accepted." I really have no idea where Zaki will end up, since he has shut down the few European suitors he had upon his return to Zamalek (Portsmouth, Malaga, etc). Then there's the intra-league rumours. Osama Hosni of Al Ahly is said to be on his way to Al Ismaily, with Gouna also showing interest in him and Ahmed Belal. Al Ahly have also started tracking new Egyptian sensation Mohamed Nagi "Geddo", but negotiations have been put off till Geddo returns from the ACN. Mohamed Shaaban is being tracked by Zamalek, and has stated that he is interested in the move. Aside from Osama Hosni, Ismaily hasn't really been rumoured to be after any major players this January, will be bolstered by the return of Omar Gamal from his six month anterior cruciate ligament injury. They also have the Essam Al Hadary saga to continue dealing with, although it should be over now that the chairmen has said that Al Merreikh's offer was not good enough and has been rejected, and that Essam is bound by his contract to stay. That about sums up the transfer activity in Egypt in January thus far. Harras El Hodood and Al Masry have also been active this January, but that was discussed earlier and, with all due respect, is on a much smaller scale than the other transfer news here. So, ya, hope this is of some interest to some of you out there
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  37. Re: Need Help On Player Ratings, Tactics or Transfer. Click Here. Yearpp. Straight swap in my opinion.
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  38. Re: Russian & Ukrainian Ratings and Analysis one of the best CB in Ukraine, 88 at least, may hit 90 later.
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  39. Re: TOLOI, Rafael (84) - 8.5C Remained a starter till the end of the season. 85/86
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  40. Re: French Ligue 1 and 2 A week has now passed and we may be starting to get somewhere with these rumours. Completed Transfers Mateja Kezman's loan spell at Zenit St. Petersburg, and the forward has returned to PSG after bagging a pair of goals in 10 appearances for the Russian side since his departure from the French capital last Summer. Le Mans have allowed the contract of 30-year-old full-back Saber Ben Frej, who has failed to accumulate any more that seven minutes of game time this season, to reach its end. The Tunisian will now become a free agent. On the incoming side, Almin Abdi, a 19-year-old FC Zurich midfielder according to Ligue1.com, will be joining Le Mans. Supposedly, the Zurich youth academy product has scored 19 times in just 12 matches last season, helping Zurich to winning the Swiss Axpo Super League. However, other sources state Abdi is in fact a 23-year-old and his first name is Almen, and these sources seem more qualified to deal with these statistics that Ligue1.com does. Wait a second. I scouted this guy a year ago. Well, that gives me the extra reason to support him at Le Mans. Grenoble have sold off Laurent Macquet to Ligue 2 side Vannes OC. The 30-year-old midfielder has exceeded his peak and only played seven times this season. Auxerre have also sent one of their players to Ligue 2, selling forward Kevin Lejeune to FC Nantes, who has played eight times for AJA this season and scored a single goal. Transfer Rumors Jean-Claude Dassier, the chairman of L'OM, has claimed there to be only a five percent chance of Hatem Ben Arfa leaving Marseille this January. The talented youngster has had Manchester United on his tail for years, with Spurs and Sevilla now wanting the 22-year-old. Dassier claims that there never were any suspicions that Ben Arfa would leave, nor did he ever intend to leave. Still, Dassier admitted that Marseille could well be tempted into selling him if a team like Manchester United or Real Madrid came by and offered about 45 million euro's for him. Marketing strategy. I think Blanc or some other manager has even confessed that managers generally say such things and claim their players to be "irreplaceable" just to bump up their price tags. Toulouse winger Fode Mansare could be saying farewell to TFC after another fruitless year, his fourth season spent since leaving Montpellier back in '05. Wolves are said to be after the 28-year-old, who has a year and a half left in his contract and is likely to be sent on loan rather than sold directly. A six-month loan with an option to buy is expected. Lens have dismissed claims that Aruna Dindane and Nadir Belhadj are going to return from Portsmouth. Aruna Dindane has spent the 2009-10 season so far at Portsmouth on loan, with an option to buy. Belhadj spent the previous season under the same terms, but has actually been bought by the Premier League side. With Portsmouth in financial instability and having not yet paid for the pair of players, some have speculated a possible return to Lens for both. However, Gervais Martel, Lens' chairman, insists that other clubs are already intent on purchasing them should they not stay at Pompey and that they would not be coming back to Lens. Speaking of Portsmouth, John Utaka could be on his way to Sochaux. The Nigerian striker claims that he would definitely join Sochaux if they guaranteed him plenty of game time leading up to the World Cup in June. If he does join, he'll be replacing Maurice-Belay beside Sverkos for sure, at least until Davies is fit again. OGC Nice are after San Lorenzo defender Renato Civelli and Middlesborough midfielder Didier Digard. Patrik Governatori, the club's president, has stated his desires to reel in the two players, and, as is becoming a bit of a motif here, would only have them join on loan, with an option to buy. Digard in fact has already has his offer accepted and should be joining Nice this weekend. He will cost six million euro's for Olle-Nicolle to buy. Civelli's near future is still in question, though. Boulogne have crept closer to reaching an agreement with Wigan Athletic involving Olivier Kapo. The 29-year-old winger demands playing time, and Boulogne could easily supply him with that. If he joins them, yes - it will be a loan deal with an option to buy. As the African Cup of Nations kicks off, a lot of Ligue 1 players will be leaving, OGC Nice being the hardest hit, with eight of their players leaving this month. Here is a full list of players leaving by team.
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  41. Re: Football Manager 2010 Romano, Seft has pretty much got everything, but I'll add few more First, offer 0 for both Koke and Keko (you'll have to pay some wages, but with good training they're worth it. Jean-Joel Perrier-Doumbe, Skacel, van der Meyde, Camara,Ian Walker, Antwi can all transfered in as free agents. Appiah is also worth a shot, but he will usually sign for a bigger club. As Seft said, you can loan lots of superb players for no wages as long as you put realistic transfers/are on loan list. As for coaches, you'll have to write the attributes you like and then just search for realistic ones. If you'll need any good tips/transfers for later on, just ask On another note, my Leeds are struggling in Premiership and after 29 matches have only 23 pts, but they're still 17th and I think I should be able to survive this season.
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  42. Re: English Championship 106 - Transfer/Gossip thread KopStar and Rafaeli are together Bar Rafaeli snapped on the beach, KopStar, who is not in the picture, was seen with the Israeli supermodel Earlier media reports who suggested Israeli model Bar Rafaeli and KopStar were together have been confirmed. After training in the morning, the team were routinely given the afternoon off and the couple were spotted together. Reports have also been confirmed that Bar split from Leonardo DiCaprio a number of months ago but they managed to keep it away from the media. While with his sweetheart KopStar happily answered some questions for local media. So media reports are true about you and Ms Rafaeli? You and Suttcliffe have had some harsh words of late with the Rochdale manager demanded a "public apology" from you, saying that Paris did "never said anything wrong about this so called professional manager and she doesn't deserve to be treated this way." What is your reply to this? What Paris Hilton looks like before she puts on her mask in the morning Not so long ago when Elliott was under scrutiny when managing England, you were one of the managers that gave him support. Do you regret your actions? Looking ahead, Cardiff play Watford next. Are you set to make any changes to your team? It is widely reported that you want a new winger with Asamoah and Lafita set to leave. You have been linked to players such as Benayoun, Babel, Lennon, Young and Cacau. Are you any closer to a deal? Maduro got extra words of praise from his manager
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  43. Re: PORTUGAL – 1st and 2nd Division extensive thread - Disscusion Thread Bruno Alves will be there until 31 or 32. Pepe is younger than B. Alves' date=' he can easily hold a starting place for the next half decade, provided nothing unusual happens. Meanwhile, Carrico should start to slowly get introduced in the National Team. Rolando will be there as well, and possibly Sereno too. Then there are players like Nuno Andre, Ivo Pinto, Bura or Roderick (not on the database), who are great prospects too. Yes. I doubt he will rise. Getting added at 75 was a surprise to me' date=' considering players like Yero were added at 72. But anyway Sergio Oliveira is class. He won't rise, but he is one to keep an eye for the future. Coentrão, Carrico and Saleiro (he is rated lower than 82 though) are the only one's who come to my mind. you'll find some more if your search in the main thread though.
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  44. Re: versatile player = poor form ? Ive noticed that those players play better depending on who you play around them...try putting every other player in their original position
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  45. Re: Serie A - Analysis and Ratings
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  46. Re: "What Can Influence Changes?" - Is this still valid? Ben, I've not checked back on this debate for a while, but you seem to be enjoying some support from presumably the-ABU clique on here. You've mentioned quite a few times about facts. Using only facts is a dangerous game to be playing. Yeah I wasn't surprised that you couldn't compete with my post about Anderson, seeing as there were plenty of facts in there, but to lamely disregard it shows your level of competence in such debates. To summarise by earlier post: 1. Anderson has more international experience. 2. Anderson has more European experience. 3. Anderson has played more competitive international matches than Lucas. 4. Your 'factual' claim about Lucas being a first-team regular for Brazil was blown to pieces by me, another reason you were unable to respond. 5. Anderson is a winner, and importantly on a European scale. This is perhaps the clearest indication as to why Anderson is rated much higher than Lucas (who has won, to my knowledge absolutely bugger-all, oh, unless you count the Reserve League in 2008, yeah thats on a par with Anderson's year when he simply won the Prem+CL! ). 6. When Mascherano and Aqualani are fully fit, they will be first-choice central mids, not Lucas - soon to be fact, but feel free to challenge it and we'll see who is correct. I have also noticed that you do not use simply (and tediously) "facts" but use subjective terms like "Rafa wouldn't play him if he was useless". Is this a fact? Really? Because I also challenged that by presenting you with other 'useless' players that Rafa was and is quite happy to employ in his teams down the years (remember Nunez? Josemi? Plessis? El Zhar?). I don't post much on here, but your bleating about Lucas was some of the purest form of excrement that I've ever read, especially when you tried to compare him to Anderson, which, if you look at my "facts" above really does show up your poor level of debate on the topic, and basically makes it redudant.
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  47. In this post, I will not just predict the Real Madrid ratings, but also write down thoughts and predict their futures, as I watch almost every match. More players will be added on quickly, and this information will also be updated very often. Its nice if you give comments of what you think:-) . PS. If you have any questions about the Spanish rating changes, feel free to ask! Iker Casillas General infomation: During the 2007/2008 season, he was absolutely amazing. Nothing went past him, and he was arguably the worlds best goalie. However, his form dropped during last season, and even if he managed to win the award of The worlds best goalkeeper 2009, he is still making some big errors. One good thing is that he has improved his throws, which make his teams better on counter attacks. Somone has mentioned he should lose his place in the Spain team to Pepe Reina, but due to Liverpools crisis this is highly unlikely. Rating information: Even though he has made mistakes, he is still one of the worlds best goalkeepers. Anyway, if he continues the way he has played the last season, he should probably drop by one in the spring. This will of course also be based opon Real Madrid overall-form. He will also maintain his Spain place as long as he is active, which means he should not drop to less than 95 unless he is injured or something. Rating prediction: Upcoming changes: 96 --> 96 In five years: 96 --> 96/95 Jerzy Dudek General information: As Dudek is gettiong older and older, and already is 36, his rating will just continue to decrease. He is still playing for the Polish national team, which has helped him keep his 85, but as Madrid have been knocked out of the Copa del Rey, he will not get any playing time, and will probably retire or move to a Polish club this summer, as Antonio Adan will be the second choise goalie. Rating information: As he will not get any playing time because of the knockout from Copa del Rey, he will get a decrease in the spring. If he moves to a Polish club, he might keep an 83/84 for some years to come, but he might also opt to retire at the end of the season, and for that my advice is to sell him. Rating prediction: Upcoming changes: 85 --> 85/84 In five years: 85 --> 84-80/RETIRED Antonio Adan General information: Adan is just 22 years old, and was promoted from Castilla before the 2009/2010 season. He is certainly not an extraordinary talent, and will never be Real madrids first choice, though he is good enough to be second choice. In my eyes, he will be a new Codina, who rots on the bench until he is mid twenty, and then moves to a smaller club. Rating information: As Dudek will leave eal in the summer, Codina will be the future second choice between the sticks. If Real does well in the cup, he might go as high as 87, but we all know the teams history in the Cup, so I wouldnt say he will reach any rating higher than 83/84. Rating prediction: Upcoming changes: 78 -->78 In five years: 78 --> 83-87 Vieira Marcelo General information: After he was bought from Fluminense, he has just become more and more important for the team. Many people think he cannot defend, and for that is a **** player, but he is actually a very good left midfielder, who starts most of the matches, and because of Brazils lack of good left backs, also have a shot in for a place in South Africa. He has also been improving game by game after Ronaldos arrival. Earlier, he was always stopped, but now, he just slides past the opposition. In some years, he will probably be a regular starter for both Real and Brazil, as he is just 21 yet, way younger than e.g. Abate. Rating information: Many people think Marcelo will not increase, but if he continues the same way as the last games, he will clearly rise to 91, and reach 92/93 after that. You have to remember that all other regulars at Real Madrid are between 92-98, which means it would be uncorrect to keep him at just 90. When/if he grabs a regular spot for Brazil, he will probably be a future 94+. Rating prediction: Upcoming changes: 90 --> 91 In five years: 90 --> 93-94 Sergio Ramos General information: 2 seasons back, Sergio was with no doubt one of the worlds best defenders, but due to his dip of form last season and the beginning of this one, many fans wanted to sell him, as all he did was receiving red cards. The reason for this dip of form was probably his positional change from CB to RB, a position he had only been playing for the national side until then. However, he has now found back to his old self again, and is actually a one man flank both for Real and Spain. Rating information: As he has re-discovered his good form, he will surely get back the 95 he lost last season, it is just a question of time. In some years, he will probably also be the worlds best right back, which means he perhaps should have a 96, but in my eyes, Sm rates fullbacks quite low, so he will stop on 95. Rating prediction: Upcoming changes: 94 --> 94 In five years: 94 --> 95 Alvaro Arbeloa General information: The former cantera player, bought from Liverpool last summer, has been quite impressive on his wrong side. Even if he is a RB naturally, he is playing on the left hand quite successful. Surely, he is no steamtrain going forward, but very good defensively, and it looks like he has made the left back his own. However, if Florentino decides to buy Vargas, Cissokho etc, he will probably loose his starting role and sit on the bench most of the time. If we do not buy a new Lb, he might well take over from Capdevila on the national side, as he is only 26 yet, compared to Capdevilas 32. Rating information: If Real do not buy a new LB, he will surely keep his 91, and might even increase to 92/93 in some years, especially if he starts some games for Spain. However, he is hard to predict, as it all depends on the activity on the transfer market. Rating prediction: Upcoming changes: 91 --> 91 In five years: 91 --> 92/93 or 89/90, all depending on whether Real buy a new LB in January. Pepe General information: It is no doubt Pepe is one of the worlds best defenders through the last couple of years. However, his injury that makes him loose the rest of the season is a huge blow for his career, as he might risk loosing South Africa, but more importantly, lots of selfconfidence. If he just recovers, he will surely be a SUPERstar for both club and country, and he will hav no problem forcing out Raul Albiol or Garay from the staring lineup. Rating information: He surely deserves to be a 94, but due to his injury he will most likely not get it. Though he will not play until next season, he will probably get 94+ in a couple of seasons, and if Real Madrid win some titles aswell, I will not find it surprising if he gets a 96. Rating predictions: Upcoming changes: 93 --> 93 In five years: 93 --> 94-96 Ezequiel Garay General information: Garay is one of my favourite defenders, as he is both a good header and a good free-kick taker. He was widely regarded as thenext big thing in defence, and 2 years ago he had all but signed for Barcelona, and then Real snapped him up. He was then loaned out to his old club, Racing, for another season. However, Santander was struggling more, and Garay lost a little of his "future superstar-mark" and many were thinking he should not have been bought when Albiol came in. However, a team certainly needs more than 2 defenders, and he has even been able to give 3 assists and score one goal, which isnt bad for a centre back. Until now, he has not been a regular starter, but due to Pepes injury he is. Some people belive Real will bring in a new CB in January, but this is highly unlikely. He will also get a shot in for a place in SA, unless Maradona gets completely ad by then. Rating information: His rating will not increas in the first changes, but he might get a 92 if he plays all amtches until next time Spain are rewieved, and if he also plays for Argentina in SA, he might get a 93. Rating prediction: Upcoming changes: 91 -> 91 In five years: 91 --> 93+
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  48. Re: Serie A - Analysis and Ratings Juventus Gianluigi Buffon - 96--->96/95 Alex Manninger - 88--->88 Antonio Chimenti - 82--->82 Fabio Grosso - 91--->90 Paolo De Ceglie - 88--->88 Zdnek Grygera - 90--->89 Jonathan Zebina - 85--->85 Giorgio Chiellini - 94--->94 Fabio Cannavaro - 93--->92 Nicola Legrottaglie - 90--->90 Martin Caceres - 89--->89 Mauro Camoranesi - 92--->92 Hasan Salihamidzic - 88--->86/87 Felipe Melo - 91--->90 Mohammed Sissoko - 90--->90 Claudio Marchisio - 90--->91 Luca Marrone - 77--->77 Christian Poulsen - 91--->91 Antonio Candreva - 87--->88 Diego - 94--->93 Sebastian Giovinco - 88--->88 Alessandro Del Piero - 93--->93 Michele Paolucci - 86--->85/86 Amauri - 92--->91 David Trezeguet - 93--->92 Vicenzo Iaquinta - 91--->91
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  49. hog0101

    Sergio BUSQUETS

    Re: Sergio BUSQUETS only played twice in world cup qualifiers m8, but might rise!
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  50. Re: ATTENTION: The Scousers Have Been Brainwashed! Because he is the manager of Liverpool and is still in employment and why shouldnt he be seems he is doing a great job for the time he has been here . So lets see your version on why he shouldnt . Yep i cant understand why you compare him because its totally unfair and even from the beginning of Prem ,Money and owners etc have changed football drastically . Lets see why i think me and the main bulk of our Fans are still loyal to Rafa even though it seems to upset them more that dont even support us . Will take Arsenal out of the equation because Wenger in this period done no better than Rafa ,so lets see besides getting to know the English game how the two clubs that have only won it in these 5 yrs differed from then. United Squad when he came . Goalkeepers Lopez Felipe Ricardo, Fabien Barthez, Roy Carroll, Tim Howard Defenders Rio Ferdinand, Philip Neville, John O'Shea, Mikael Silvestre, Gary Neville, Wesley Brown Midfielders Quinton Fortune, Nicky Butt, Jos� Pereira Kleberson(from 08/12/2003), Darren Fletcher, Mark Lynch, Eric Djemba-Djemba, Roy Keane, Kieran Richardson, Danny Pugh, Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs Forwards Cristiano Ronaldo, Ruud Van Nistelrooy, Diego Forlan, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, David Bellion Not to bad only need tinkering . Chelsea , Goalkeepers Ed De Goey, Carlo Cudicini Defenders John Terry, Celestine Babayaro, Wayne Bridge, Robert Huth, Marcel Desailly, Glen Johnson, William Gallas, Mario Melchiot Midfielders Boudewijn Zenden, Claude Makelele, Joe Cole, Juan Sebastian Veron, Joe Keenan, Emmanuel Petit, Frank Lampard, Mikael Forssell, Sorele Ndjitap Fotso Geremi, Mario Stanic, Enrique De Lucas Forwards Jesper Gronkj�r, Hernan Crespo, Adrian Mutu, Eidur Smari Gudjohnsen, Carlton Cole, Jimmy Floyd Wow not bad with both dont you think ,so surely a great manager like Rafa should find winning the Prem simple especially with the Squad he took over . Liverpool . Goalkeepers Jurek Dudek, Chris Kirkland, Patrice Luzi Defenders Carl Medjani, Stephane Henchoz, Jon Otsemobor, Steve Finnan, John Welsh, Djimi Traore, Sami Hyypia, Salif Diao, Jamie Carragher Midfielders Dietmar Hamann, John Arne Riise, Danny Murphy, Bruno Cheyrou, Steven Gerrard, Igor Biscan, Vladimir Smicer Forwards Michael Owen, El Hadji Diouf, Anthony Le Tallec, Milan Baros, Florent Sinama Pongolle, Harry Kewell, Emile Heskey, Richie Partridge Yep not much work to do there by he must be rubbish. Lets see in these 5yrs he has just passed the 200 game benchmark yet as LFC manager has won more games than either Ferguson or Wenger did, and indeed, Liverpool's two greatest managers, Shankly and Paisley. Indeed, Benítez is 27 wins better off than Ferguson over the first 200 fixtures. (I know times have changed, but you still need to be top class to post 114 wins in your first 200 league matches,ESPECIALLY MORE SO WITH THE RUBBISH NEARLY ALL HIS BUYS ARE ACCORDING TO YOU ..) When he first came to LFC and youve seen the team ive just shown he would have needed most of this season to SEE some of them so could even find out if they had what it takes to fit in to the way he wanted . He thought even though won the Champions league that year through out the club it needed a major rebuilding there were between 50-60 from first team down to reserves ,academy etc he thought were not the quality needed and had to go . So for starters, Benitez has sold 39 players bought by other Liverpool managers. He cannot be held accountable for selling a player at a loss when he was not the one who identified the player as a target in the first place or sanctioned the over-inflated transfer fee when the player was first purchased. You can only really judge him on the players he has bought and sold since he has been at the club and this brings the true figure down to just 17 players. Profit: 7 Carson +2.25, Barragan +0.43, Sissoko +2.6, Crouch +4.0, Gonzalez +2.0, Bellamy +1.5, Nunez +0.5 Loss: 6 Garcia -2.0, Morientes -3.3, Palletta -0.8, Josemi (swapped for) Kromkamp -0.25, Idrizaj -0.19, Keane -3.0 (could be even less depending on contract triggers) Even: 4 Pellegrino, Zenden, Fowler, Padelli (all four players were brought in and moved on for a free transfer) So the true extent of Rafa’s failings in the transfer market is just six players from 17; coming with a loss of just under £10 million within four and a half years—the most expensive loss being just £3.3 million; nothing like the losses achieved by other established Premier League managers who manage to avoid the media abuse storm. Yet even though i agree he has made some bad buys who dosnt if it means you cant do a Chelsea at the time or City this season and just go out and buy the best . Your going to make mistakes when having to upgrade the way he has ,but also can you blame a manager if when players come he dosnt take to the Club,Climate change ,Cultral diff ,Our physical game etc,etc . Some of these so called failures were actually good in there own familiar surroundings before comming ,and some have done pretty well since left . Well for one thing Liverpool have nowhere near the most expensive squad in the Premiership. Indeed, there are three clubs who have spent at least 50 per cent more on their current squad than Liverpool. Shocked? But it's true. And one of the clubs is not a name you'd necessarily expect. It doesn't help if you just focus on Rafa's gross spend, rather than the net amount. Effectively, this means counting all the right-backs he's bought as one big outlay, rather than looking at how he's replaced one with another for roughly the same £2m fee. Working with just the gross spend, you add the £2m of Josemi to the £2m value of Kromkamp (even though it was a swap), to the £2.6m paid for Arbeloa. But none of these players were at the club at the same time, and each was traded to get to the point where an outright success was secured, as happened with the final purchase. So even though the total cost of getting Arbeloa was just the £2.6m paid, people will use a figure almost three times as high. That is illogical. When Rafa came and had to just about do a complete overall AS IVE POINTED OUT AND SHOWN THE SIDE AT THE TIME ,he didnt have the finances like Chelsea WHO were slinging around just like Man City now ,United first team was already established ,therefore Rafa yes may buy one biggish name but for the rest of money have to use it just like the housing market:, you don't just go in and buy a mansion straight from school. (Okay, so maybe some footballers do, but not the normal people of this world. As someone stuck with renting, I'm speaking generally here!) You start with an affordable house; you then use the money from selling that to buy your next property. Most people can only get to own a big house having traded their way up over a number of years. Yet when someone asks how much you spent on your house, you don't add all the houses you've ever bought together, do you? If you own a £220,000 house, you don't say £470,000 because you add the £90,000 starter home and the £160,000 step up. That would be moronic. According to the excellent and reliable www.LFCHistory.net, Rafa's gross spend is approximately £188m, but his net spend is only £108m, given that around £80m has been recouped. (I'd hazard a guess that a large proportion of the £108m net spend has also been recouped through Champions League progress rewards, particularly with the Reds being the top-ranked team based on his five-year tenure.) So it's easy to pluck a figure of SAY '£195m' from the air,and make it seem like that should make a team champions, or ultra-close challengers. But it's only the cost of the current squad that counts. Because that's all a manager can choose from; he can't go back in time and select a player he sold in order to trade up, just as you can't just turn up to one of your old houses and let yourself in. You simply cannot add Rafa having spent £5.8m on Sissoko to the £18m on Mascherano, because the two were never part of the same set-up; one was bought and sold for a profit, and as with a house, the money reinvested in a step-up. If Sissoko isn't bought and then sold, Mascherano probably doesn't arrive. Is that really too tough to grasp? The most expensive squads (excluding players out on long-term loan) are as follows: Chelsea £207m Manchester United £206m* Spurs £188m Manchester City £140m Liverpool £127m So what does this tell us? Let's start with the leaders. United's squad contains the most home-grown players, such as Giggs, Scholes, Neville, O'Shea, Brown and Fletcher, who all arrived for free. So that shows that it is a long-established core supplemented by a lot of expensive signings added one by one to a unified collection. In other words, classic, spot-on building of a squad when already established at the very top. But it shows that even if you work with the unfair use of Rafa's gross spend, it still doesn't match what Ferguson has spent on his current squad, let alone those who have been bought and sold for record fees in the past. And this is utterly, utterly critical, and beyond the grasp of some people who cannot analyse things with common sense. After all, what does it matter how much Rafa has spent since 2004 if Ferguson is currently and were fielding players like Ferdinand (£30m) and Ronaldo (£12.8m) who were bought before then? Isn't Rafa – in the real world – competing with a team whose construction started well before he arrived? Unless Ferguson is banned from fielding players like Ferdinand and say at the time Ronaldo (which would be illogical), or forced to start from scratch in 2004 (again illogical), it is not a fair comparison, is it? After all, how much as Harry Redknapp spent since he took over at Spurs? I make it almost £50m. How much has Rafa spent since Harry Redknapp took over at Spurs? Nothing. But only a nutter would compare the two in this deeply skewed way. Rafa has been in his job about five times as long as Harry, so you obviously wouldn't dare compare their teams. And yet Ferguson has been in his job about five times as long as Rafa, and yet the Spaniard is expected to have Liverpool as champions by now. Chelsea and Spurs are actually the more interesting examples in many ways. I knew Spurs had spent a lot, but to have a current squad that cost almost £200m , Add together the cost of Bentley, Pavyluchenko, Palacios, Bale, Defoe, Bent, Keane and Modric and you more-or-less end up with the cost of Liverpool's entire squad. I could be sarcastic – or media-style sensationalistic – and say that with that much spent, any manager should be able to win almost all of his matches, but it wouldn't be fair or logical. It's far more complex than that, and even a good manager like Redknapp has his work cut out. Of course, this analysis doesn't include wages, either. You don't get the very top players in the world without also having to pay them a king's ransom. Michael Ballack must be most expensive free transfer ever, with wages reported to be around £130,000 a week, or about £30m over five years. Again, Liverpool are no way near the highest payers, either. Hence why United etc can usually get players that LFC were after which has happened . Just say out of our Squad now i picked 11 and compared to that 2004 , Reina, Johnson, Agger , Skyrtel, Insua . Mascherano , Lucas, Gerrard, Benayoun, Aurelio, Torres . How many still in ,just one "Gerrard" the only one missing is Carra ,then also besides it being a far superior quality side take a gander at ages . Only 3 over 25 yrs so officially not even in the prime yrs which is supposed to be 28-32. Thats why Rafa isnt a faliure i think he knew he didnt have the finances to buy the league so he is doing the best from an inferior position he is slowly building ,hence the ages of the core of LFC Squad now . Made me laugh on Sunday when you got all the Paper know alls sat around the table on sky ,they said in one statement Rafa cant keep using the owners as an excuse for the lack of money because he still has spent and players werent good enough ,yet in another they said when Moriniho was asked if he was interested in LFC if it got offered would he take it ,his reply was no how can you manage when both owners dont agree and have different agendas. Then they all sat there agreeing with his reply stating what top manager with any commonsence would be manager in that kind of set up . How fickle Rafa cant blame the gaffers yet who has been working in these conditions and could have taken the easier option especially after winning the European league when others wanted him hence the silly owners lining up Klinsman behind his back . Nope what Rafa has started is not finished and we can see progress even though its not as quick as you other guys would like so its get rid . Well were not deluded and think in todays times its a quick fix ,Villa fans again now think MO is the best thing since slice bread ,yet he had his get rid as well as Wenger just of late . Nope if we were stagnating under Rafa all well and good but were not . Mostly all knee-jerkism to getting rid of him isnt from lfc fans itself ,if you really know the game and its changes from my days then thinking has to be long-term, not short-term. Yes Rafa may not win it he may finish up just being the builder but wheras some managers will never have what it takes to win the world's biggest trophies, or even simply win more than a poor percentage of games as a manager. (These are the qualifications of critics, though.) Benítez and Wenger, with major league titles and in Rafa's case, a European Cup, certainly do. Fergie is getting on 70 ,Wenger about 60,wheras Rafa is only 49 regarded as a great manager already so he is a youngster compared to these . Nope we havnt been brainwashed ,we are more intelligent and know because of who we were dosnt mean we will be that again ,but we know of the internal struggle Rafa has had from day one . By the way i know some say certain players of ours are not good enough to win the league ,but again they have still been good enough to keep us in the top 4 and make us since Rafas arrival the most Succesful British side in Europe over the last 5 yrs . Well this apparently is what also gave Rafa his 100 mill to buy some of our top players who without this we may never have got and been even in a worse position ,so in a way these have helped the club because they may not have been good enough to win us the league but theyve still been better than you lot still behind us and fetched that money into the coffers which proberly outweighs anything he lost on the odd few ..
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