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    metaphysical got a reaction from Antonio Mourinho in I like running up my debt >:-)   
    wait...
     
    wait.
     
    wait!
     
    so a guy who spammed the entire forum for months whining about people abusing SM's tactical system that didn't work (and still doesn't work btw, one of my opponents plays two of CR, Ozil, Silva and Hazard wide in 3412 and has suffered no loss of form at all) is in fact a proud abuser of SM's financial system that doesn't work?
     
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    metaphysical got a reaction from Middle_Finger in Player concerns   
    so are concerns gone?
     
    because if so, why are there players who still have concerns? are those just always going to be there? or will they fade over time?
     
    I'm confused.
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    metaphysical got a reaction from Middle_Finger in Player concerns   
    concerns are all screwed up.
     
    like you say, they should drop if they've played every game since the jump to a level 1 concern, but instead what often happens is the concern snowballs into a level 2. then you have to play them every single game for an entire season to get them back down to 0, which is absolutely preposterous.
     
    had to sell two of my highest value squad players recently as a result of this nonsense.
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    metaphysical got a reaction from Wave_Dweller in Liga BBVA Ratings Predictions thread   
    good on Messi. the Argentina fans don't deserve him and the AFA deserve him even less. they're so corrupt they make FIFA look righteous. he'll have no problem maintaining his 99 rating because he is still by far and away the best player in the world.
     
    Bale will get a +1 after the Euros. he's led Wales to the QF. Wales! of course it's outrageous he doesn't have 95 already, but yeah, he'll get it after the Euros SURELY?
     
    Piqué showing how ridiculous his 94 is. flawless performance all Euros despite Ramos playing terribly. deserves a +1 to 95 unquestionably.
     
    Alba 93? come on. COME ON.
     
    Cristiano has been absolute garbage at the Euros. again, deserves a -1 to 98. but of course he won't get it.
     
    Iniesta dropping after probably his best season since 2010-11 is and has always been absolutely mind-blowingly stupid. I refused to comment further back then and the same applies now.
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    metaphysical got a reaction from lunastorta in Liga BBVA Ratings Predictions thread   
    what did I tell you?
     
    absolute joke.
     
    win a Copa del Rey and two CL's in three seasons... apparently that's worth the same as one PL Title where most of your goals were penalties and then possibly the worst season by a supposedly world-class attacking player in recent memory. hmmm. ok.
     
    makes sense.
     
    After Modric, Keylor Navas was basically Real Madrid's best player all season. so he's rated below Joe Hart. hmmm. ok.
     
    oh and hey win a TREBLE followed by a DOUBLE (which only 3 sides in major Euro league history have done)? nah, you don't deserve a rise unless you scored 59 goals, because otherwise you must be rubbish. you've clearly not earned it.
     
    Jordi Alba... hmmm. ok.
     
    Piqué got dropped, then won (and I'm gonna keep saying this) A TREBLE FOLLOWED BY A DOUBLE - BOTH OF WHICH HE WAS ESSENTIAL TO - ARGUABLY MOTM IN A CL AND COPA FINAL IN CONSECUTIVE YEARS. apparently this is not worth a raise to be rated the same as Sergio Ramos and Thiago Silva. hmmm. ok.
     
    Neymar was better than Suárez last year, but both got +1 to 96. Suárez was more efficient than Neymar this year (overall Neymar was better) but only Suárez gets the +1 to 97. Neymar stays on 96. hmmm. ok.
     
    I've flat-out given up on Busquets being rated properly. that's just never gonna happen. he'll stay at 95 even though he is A) better and more decorated than Modric - who is now 95 as he should have been.
     
    and let me not say anything about Iniesta DROPPING -1 after having his most consistent season for five years, during which he won THE DOUBLE and was absolutely unreal in the Copa del Rey Final. let me just not say anything about that because I'll lose my cool.
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    metaphysical got a reaction from The punch in Liga BBVA Ratings Predictions thread   
    what did I tell you?
     
    absolute joke.
     
    win a Copa del Rey and two CL's in three seasons... apparently that's worth the same as one PL Title where most of your goals were penalties and then possibly the worst season by a supposedly world-class attacking player in recent memory. hmmm. ok.
     
    makes sense.
     
    After Modric, Keylor Navas was basically Real Madrid's best player all season. so he's rated below Joe Hart. hmmm. ok.
     
    oh and hey win a TREBLE followed by a DOUBLE (which only 3 sides in major Euro league history have done)? nah, you don't deserve a rise unless you scored 59 goals, because otherwise you must be rubbish. you've clearly not earned it.
     
    Jordi Alba... hmmm. ok.
     
    Piqué got dropped, then won (and I'm gonna keep saying this) A TREBLE FOLLOWED BY A DOUBLE - BOTH OF WHICH HE WAS ESSENTIAL TO - ARGUABLY MOTM IN A CL AND COPA FINAL IN CONSECUTIVE YEARS. apparently this is not worth a raise to be rated the same as Sergio Ramos and Thiago Silva. hmmm. ok.
     
    Neymar was better than Suárez last year, but both got +1 to 96. Suárez was more efficient than Neymar this year (overall Neymar was better) but only Suárez gets the +1 to 97. Neymar stays on 96. hmmm. ok.
     
    I've flat-out given up on Busquets being rated properly. that's just never gonna happen. he'll stay at 95 even though he is A) better and more decorated than Modric - who is now 95 as he should have been.
     
    and let me not say anything about Iniesta DROPPING -1 after having his most consistent season for five years, during which he won THE DOUBLE and was absolutely unreal in the Copa del Rey Final. let me just not say anything about that because I'll lose my cool.
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    metaphysical got a reaction from lunastorta in Liga BBVA Ratings Predictions thread   
    what did I tell you?
     
    only two members of the best defensive unit in the world got rises, and those were both +1 (Oblak deserved a +2).
     
    Godín? ignored
    Juanfran? ignored
    Giménez? ignored
    Gabi? ignored
     
    JOKES.
     
    (very pleased for Koke though he's quite wonderful)
     
    I'm telling you guys, only Suárez is gonna get a +1 for Barcelona, maybe Munir as well. they won't touch Piqué, Alba and Busquets even though god knows they deserve it for consistently standing out among their peers in terms of success. and since 0 trophies seem to be the logic behind the Atléti boys not rising (a ridiculous reason, but whatever) I would remind any SW people watching that since their last ratings change Piqué, Alba and Busquets have won THE TREBLE (Piqué and Busquets' second) and THE DOUBLE back to back - it would be absurd for them not to rise - Robben and Ribery both hit 96 off the back of a treble and careers with much less success, Ramos has 95 and has never won a Double in his life, Thiago Silva has 95 and has never even played in a Champions League semi-final let alone won it multiple times. Piqué is comfortably the world's most decorated central defender (and Busquets' the same for defensive midfielder) and he's been a central figure to all those triumphs, and yet...
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    metaphysical got a reaction from BarcaKes1 in Liga BBVA Ratings Predictions thread   
    Golito 
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    metaphysical got a reaction from BarcaKes1 in Liga BBVA Ratings Predictions thread   
    Banega is fine. Krychowiak is a bit of a stretch given his injury meant he sat out a bunch of the season but hey, 3 EL's in a row.
     
    let's see how they mangled Atléti and Barcelona, eh?
     
    predictions:
     
    Oblak+1
    Griezmann+1
     
    Keylor+1
    Casemiro+1
    Modric+1
    Bale+1
    Benzema+1
     
    Suárez+1
     
    that's it. I've lost all faith in them to do anything even approaching justice to two of the best three sides in the world. maybe I'm being pessimistic, and I hope they prove me wrong, but I just can't see it. I mean, can you?
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    metaphysical got a reaction from Elizeu Campos in Liga BBVA Ratings Predictions thread   
    very good. could get a +1 to 90, but that would be generous.
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    metaphysical got a reaction from Elizeu Campos in Liga BBVA Ratings Predictions thread   
    fall.
     
    -1 for sure.
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    metaphysical got a reaction from Cam Lucas in English Premiership Rating Predictions   
    he should have never gotten it, tbh. he was a dynamic talent but it was his first genuinely class season bar perhaps his last one in Ligue 1. a 94 would have been fair, he didn't need that final +1 at all especially as he was so incredibly bad against PSG as Chelsea limped out of the CL.
     
    but having gotten it he absolutely should have lost it because he's been garbage this season. I agree 93 would be fair but even allowing for young player and PL stud player biases, no chance he should be 95 still. 94, max.
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    metaphysical got a reaction from Sir Rahul in Liga BBVA Ratings Predictions thread   
    the thing with Piqué and Godín is that there are clearly four CB's in the world that stand out above the rest in terms of both quality and success (Godín, Piqué, Ramos and Thiago Silva). now there are heirarchies inbetween that foursome, for sure, with Godín at the top of that - but at the minimum they should all be rated 95 above everyone else. no way Piqué should be on the same level as Boateng given 1. how well Piqué plays, 2. how little help he has and 3. what he's won.
     
    (also Bonucci and Alaba both should have got +1's to 94)
     
    Cristiano is amazing and while I recognise his enormous goalscoring and I understand that the optics of dropping someone who has achieved what he has this season looks kinda silly, the whole thing is predicated on Messi just quite clearly being better than him. if there was a 100 to raise Messi to, then Cristiano wouldn't have to drop. but there isn't. and there's also enough of a gap that a -1 still has him better than everyone else.
     
    I too worry that Neymar won't rise. it's a shame because he definitely deserves it. after all he was better than Suárez in 2014-15 and yet both rose to 96 together. I feel it would be fair to raise them both, but yeah, let's wait and see on that one.
     
    you're right that a single goal can't justify Alba's 93 but he's won LA LIGA, THE TREBLE and THE DOUBLE since he got 92. should have been 93 a long time ago tbh I don't know why he's not.
     
    Atléti are in desperate need of some huge boosts for their players. I just wonder if SM will do any of them especially as the ended up winning nothing. I think that would be hugely unfair - beating Barcelona and Bayern Munich like the did is unquestionably more impressive than Madrid's CL win given that bar two games against PSG, Madrid didn't face a good team til the Final and they needed an offside goal and a penalty shootout to win that. Atléti meanwhile beat the two best teams in the world. they're so very good.
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    metaphysical got a reaction from Cam Lucas in Liga BBVA Ratings Predictions thread   
    the thing with Piqué and Godín is that there are clearly four CB's in the world that stand out above the rest in terms of both quality and success (Godín, Piqué, Ramos and Thiago Silva). now there are heirarchies inbetween that foursome, for sure, with Godín at the top of that - but at the minimum they should all be rated 95 above everyone else. no way Piqué should be on the same level as Boateng given 1. how well Piqué plays, 2. how little help he has and 3. what he's won.
     
    (also Bonucci and Alaba both should have got +1's to 94)
     
    Cristiano is amazing and while I recognise his enormous goalscoring and I understand that the optics of dropping someone who has achieved what he has this season looks kinda silly, the whole thing is predicated on Messi just quite clearly being better than him. if there was a 100 to raise Messi to, then Cristiano wouldn't have to drop. but there isn't. and there's also enough of a gap that a -1 still has him better than everyone else.
     
    I too worry that Neymar won't rise. it's a shame because he definitely deserves it. after all he was better than Suárez in 2014-15 and yet both rose to 96 together. I feel it would be fair to raise them both, but yeah, let's wait and see on that one.
     
    you're right that a single goal can't justify Alba's 93 but he's won LA LIGA, THE TREBLE and THE DOUBLE since he got 92. should have been 93 a long time ago tbh I don't know why he's not.
     
    Atléti are in desperate need of some huge boosts for their players. I just wonder if SM will do any of them especially as the ended up winning nothing. I think that would be hugely unfair - beating Barcelona and Bayern Munich like the did is unquestionably more impressive than Madrid's CL win given that bar two games against PSG, Madrid didn't face a good team til the Final and they needed an offside goal and a penalty shootout to win that. Atléti meanwhile beat the two best teams in the world. they're so very good.
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    metaphysical got a reaction from Hoggzeh in Liga BBVA Ratings Predictions thread   
    but since you asked for it and I'm bored...
     
    Cristiano -1 to 98 (doesn't effect the big games anymore, is not as comprehensively complete as Messi so shouldn't share a rating with him - still deserves to be rated higher than everyone else for his enormous goal tally)
    Bale +1 to 95 (Madrid's most efficient attacker and their most rounded one too. has been a huge part of two CL wins and one Copa win in his time at Madrid - is the only reason Madrid beat City, also)
    Benzema +1 to 95 (debatable; he doesn't seem like a 95-level player but he's as good as Aguero, sooo...)
    Modric +1 to 95 (third best midfielder in the world - effortlessly class every time he steps on the field)
    Keylor +2 to 93 (unreal goalie. best in La Liga this season and two seasons ago)
    Casemiro +1 to 90 (has added such balance to the Madrid midfield - not a spectacular talent but fills a really important role for the European Champions)
     
    no one else tho, Madrid are not a great side and got so lucky with that offside goal. worst CL champions since Chelsea 2012. also Cristiano Ronaldo has played in four European Cup finals and been absolutely useless in three of them. still should get a -1. he won't, obviously, but he should.
     
    Suárez +1 to 97 (second best goalscorer in the world, best #9 in the world, hugely decisive season)
    Neymar +1 to 97 (second best player in the world, absurdly rounded talent with a massive influence on the way Barcelona play - carried the side in Messi's injury absence - was immense in the Copa Final and has the most chances created in the CL this season).
    Busquets +1 to 96 (best midfielder in the world. should be ranked as such. his influence is so huge that Barcelona look significantly worse when Mascherano, one of the best DM's around, replaces him there. has won THE TREBLE and THE DOUBLE since his last ratings review)
    Piqué +1 to 95 (second best defender in the world, holds Barca's defence together - has won THE TREBLE and THE DOUBLE since his last ratings review)
    Alba +1 to 93 (world-class fullback with much improved defence to now match his offence - scored huge CdR final goal)
    Vermaelen -1 to 88 (injury has destroyed him)
    Adriano -1 to 88 (injury and age has destroyed him)
    Douglas -2 to 83 (not very good)
     
    Godín +2 to 96 (best defender in the world and has been (or occasionally #2) since 2013.
    Griezmann +1 to 94 (unreal performer all season, wrecked Barcelona and Bayern Munich in the Champions League)
    Koke +1 to 94 (one of the best midfielders around - a tireless workhorse oozing with finesse and orchestrating ability)
    Gabi +2 to 94 (I know he's 32, I don't care, he's absolutely outstanding and one of the top DM's around - bossed the CL Final)
    Juanfran +1 to 93 (second best RB in the world right now, should be rated as such)
    Filipe Luis +2 to 93 (easily as good as Alba and Marcelo, should be rated the same)
    Oblak +2 to 92 (one of the best goalkeepers in the world. conceded just 18 league goals and won the Zamora)
    Giménez +2 to 92 (replaced Miranda so seamlessly at the start of the season. an absolute rock at the back for club and country).
    Saúl +3 to 91 (emerged from nowhere to be an absolute stud. one of the stars of the Atléti midfield an whilst capable of great moments of strength and courage he's also overflowing with skill and inventiveness. huge role in Atléti's march to the Final.
    Carrasco +1 to 90 (really decisive winger - shades of becoming the next Arda Turan - brilliant in the CL Final)
    Augusto +1 to 89 (solid DM who made the Tiago injury a non-factor when it could have crippled their season)
    Correa +1 to 88 (mercurial young talent - won games for Madrid, playing a big part in their Title Challenge.
    Partey +2 to 86 (promising youngster)
    Lucas +5 to 85 (promising youngster)
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    metaphysical got a reaction from BarcaKes1 in English Premiership Rating Predictions   
    Blind has been good, really good when you consider his lack of physicality. and United have the best defensive record in the PL too.
     
    but 90 for Blind and Smalling is fair given the overall lack of quality in said league. had they managed to make top four, you could have argued perhaps both deserved a +1 (especially Smalling) but 90 is a fair rating for them right now.
     
    Eden Hazard has been trash for 99% of the season. he avoided a -1 in the mid-season ratings purely because SM didn't want to look like idiots (they should have never given him 95 in the first place) but now he HAS to drop. a -2 won't happen though it is deserved, but a -1 is essential.
     
    the PL having less 95 rated players than Ligue 1 makes sense because Ligue 1's only players rated over 91 are all on PSG who are a significantly better side than anyone in the PL (despite bottling that CL QF against City). also Zlatan is probably about to leave L1 for the PL, so that should redress the balance.
     
    also the PL just isn't that great in terms of quality at the top level, sorry to say.
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    metaphysical got a reaction from RoyalAguila in English Premiership Rating Predictions   
    Blind has been good, really good when you consider his lack of physicality. and United have the best defensive record in the PL too.
     
    but 90 for Blind and Smalling is fair given the overall lack of quality in said league. had they managed to make top four, you could have argued perhaps both deserved a +1 (especially Smalling) but 90 is a fair rating for them right now.
     
    Eden Hazard has been trash for 99% of the season. he avoided a -1 in the mid-season ratings purely because SM didn't want to look like idiots (they should have never given him 95 in the first place) but now he HAS to drop. a -2 won't happen though it is deserved, but a -1 is essential.
     
    the PL having less 95 rated players than Ligue 1 makes sense because Ligue 1's only players rated over 91 are all on PSG who are a significantly better side than anyone in the PL (despite bottling that CL QF against City). also Zlatan is probably about to leave L1 for the PL, so that should redress the balance.
     
    also the PL just isn't that great in terms of quality at the top level, sorry to say.
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    metaphysical got a reaction from BarcaKes1 in Liga BBVA Ratings Predictions thread   
    Piqué deserves a 95 because since he dropped to 94 he's basically been the best defender in the world (or, at worst, second best behind Godín). since his -1 he has won TWO ligas, TWO copas, ONE club world cup, ONE supercup and ONE champions league all while playing next to Dani Alves and a short midfielder. honestly if that isn't worth a +1 what are we even doing with this game?
     
    Alba deserves 93 because he should have had 93 ages ago come on don't be ridiculous.
     
    Busquets deserves 96 because he is the best midfielder in the world, and 96 recognises the standout players in their position (Neuer, Iniesta, Robben pre-injury, Neymar & Suárez) which is what he is. he and Iniesta are a cut above Modric (who also deserves a +1, btw).
     
    Neymar deserves 97 because he has been outrageously good this season. he led the team in Messi's absence and has since been so effective as a final third forward Messi has been able to drop deeper and be a playmaker. Suárez's massively impressive goal-totals are largely down to the creative work of Messi and Neymar. oh, and he was immense to close the season out. an absolutely incredible performance playing LM in a 441, carrying the ball fearlessly despite his team being down to 10 men. got Banega sent off, made Alba's goal possible with a great run and scored the final goal of the game to seal things.
     
    that's why.
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    metaphysical got a reaction from BarcaKes1 in Liga BBVA Ratings Predictions thread   
    when he was at Arsenal, Cesc Fabregas always had higher assist numbers than both Xavi and Iniesta.
     
    assist numbers are not the ultimate sign of a creative player, the kind of player who makes his team-mates better and elevates everyone around him to perform to a higher level.
     
    the reason Cristiano's trophy cabinet is so much barer then Messi's is because he is not the type of player to inspire his team-mates in a similar way. he is (or, has become) a striker who thrives on the creativity of others.
     
    no one here has come up with a counter-argument to my points. not one. you all just parrot the same line "OMG GOALZ!" which I already acknowledged and exposed as not a valid enough reason for the two to share a rating. none of you have anything else to say, and frankly I'm getting bored repeating myself.
     
    I'll just leave the debate with this image, which pretty much says it all.
     

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    metaphysical got a reaction from BarcaKes1 in Bundesliga Ratings Discussion   
    he's ridiculously good. there's like, NO HYPE, around him at all. some big club is gonna be very savvy and get a stud CB for a reasonable price. it won't be Bayern thankfully. I'm hoping Barcelona can see sense and make a move because with Lucho coaching his technical skills up he could be an absolute tyrant.
     
    I reckon he'll get a +2 to 88 tbh. which is underrating him but, there you go.
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    metaphysical got a reaction from tupac_healy in Bundesliga Ratings Discussion   
    he's ridiculously good. there's like, NO HYPE, around him at all. some big club is gonna be very savvy and get a stud CB for a reasonable price. it won't be Bayern thankfully. I'm hoping Barcelona can see sense and make a move because with Lucho coaching his technical skills up he could be an absolute tyrant.
     
    I reckon he'll get a +2 to 88 tbh. which is underrating him but, there you go.
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    metaphysical got a reaction from Sir Rahul in Liga BBVA Ratings Predictions thread   
    Albentosa I suspect will get a +2 to 87.
     
    no idea if Malaga will sign him up. I would have thought they will, but who knows.
     
     
     
    look, he's not gonna get bumped down to 98.
     
    but he should.
     
    98 is still comfortably better than EVERYONE ELSE IN THE GAME EXCEPT MESSI.
     
    which is the point.
     
    Cristiano is clearly not on Messi's level, so why should he share a rating with him?
     
    no one has answered this question.
     
    if Messi is 99, Cristiano is 98. that's how SM had it for years and was the perfect representation of where they both stood and stand.
     
    now they're both level in ratings but they are NOT level in ability.
     
    the way you guys talk it's as if I want him bumped down to 95 or something.
     
    jokes.
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    metaphysical got a reaction from BarcaKes1 in Liga BBVA Ratings Predictions thread   
    four CL's in the last 10 years when no one else has won it more than 1 time in that same span.
     
    this current core group (Messi, Iniesta, Piqué, Busquets) has won 3 CL's and 5 Ligas in the last 7 years. in that time-span they have TWO Trebles. TWO. there are literal handful of other Euro clubs who have just one Treble in all of football history. and Barcelona have two in the last 7 years.
     
    sounds pretty damn impeccable to me there, pal.
     
     
     
    "another great season" where he's basically been useless against anyone good?
     
    he scored in El Clásico, that and a goal against Celta earlier in the season are honestly his only goals against a good opponent.
     
    look if he slaps a goal in against Atléti in the CL Final (a meaningful one, not some late penalty like last time) I'll drop this argument that he should get a -1. until then, if you can honestly look at that graph I linked to, as well as the games he's played this season, and tell me he deserves to be rated the same as Messi then you, my friend, should not discuss football on here.
     
    Neymar's been outrageously good this season (there is more to football than goals and assists - even Suárez acknowledged as much earlier this week). but Neymar's struggles since April began will count against him. but like I said the +1 is contingent on him finishing strong. if he doesn't do well against Granada and especially Sevilla in the Copa Final, then he should stay at 96.
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    metaphysical got a reaction from BarcaKes1 in Liga BBVA Ratings Predictions thread   
    doubt Laporte gets his rise, but as soon as he moves to City/Barca/wherever this summer he'll get a +1 bump.
     
    hoping for:
     
    Suárez +1 to 97
    Neymar +1 to 97 (this is conditional on finishing strong, though he's had a great season {PROOF} despite being poor in April)
    Busquets +1 to 96
    Piqué +1 to 95
    Rakitic +1 to 94
    Alba +1 to 93
    Vermaelen -1 to 88
    Adriano -1 to 88
    Munir +2 to 87
     
    (despite missing out on the CL, Barcelona are on-course to repeat The Double, something no one has done since 1954 - even Pep's teams didn't manage it)
     
    Godín +1 to 95
    Griezmann +1 to 94
    Koke +1 to 94
    Juanfran +1 to 93
    Gabi +1 to 93
    Filipe Luis +1 to 92
    Giménez +2 to 92
    Oblak +2 to 92
    Saúl +2 to 90
    Angel Correa +2 to 88
    Thomas Partey +2 to 86
    Lucas +5 to 85
     
    (despite missing out on La Liga, Atletico have been amazing and made their second CL Final in 3 years. hopefully they're fully fit this time).
     
    Cristiano -1 to 98 (yes, despite his goal in El Clásico - he's still got a poor record against good sides this season and is so much worse than Messi {PROOF} that there is just no way he deserves to share the same rating - 98 for his huge goal total is still fine)
    Modric +1 to 95
    Benzema +1 to 95
    Casemiro +1 to 90
    Lucas Vázquez +2 to 89
    Nacho +1 to 88
     
    Bakambu +3 to 90
    Denis Suárez +2 to 89
    Areola +2 to 89
    Bailly +2 to 88
     
    Gameiro +1 to 91
    Tremoulinas +1 to 90
    Sergio Rico +2 to 88
     
    (a lot of Sevilla players could get +1's to 90 and 91, but they'd have to win the Europa League first to justify it).
     
    Balenziaga +1 to 89
    San Jose +1 to 89
    Inaki Williams +1 to 88
    Herrerin +3 to 87
    Lekue +4 to 86
    Sabin +3 to 85
     
    Ruben Castro +1 to 90
    Lucas Perez +1 to 89 (I would argue a +2 to 90 wouldn't be amiss he's been so good in a bad Depor side)
    Jonathan Viera +2 to 89
    Borja Baston +3 to 88
    Marco Asensio +2 to 88
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    metaphysical got a reaction from tupac_healy in Liga BBVA Ratings Predictions thread   
    dude I was sat there for like 10 minutes thinking "WHO HAVE I FORGOTTEN?!?!?!?" before just giving up and posting.
     
    Oblak +2 to 92
     
    absolutely.
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