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  1. Re: How about making a realistic game engine ? My chairman won't let me. Dammit !
  2. Re: Counter formations Nothing against that mate, afterall I've been saying that formations and player ratings don't have that much importance in the outcome of a match. So shuffling them out a little may set things straight in the next one or it may not, right ? However, in real life when one set of (better) players used to playing in a certain system do well against another specific system, this tends to repeat itself more often than not. Of course there is the odd game where everything goes against, but that's just that: the odd game. In SM however it's everyday business. I mean you don't see Juventus (for example) having results like 0-1 / 3-0 / 0-2 / 4-1 and so on, do you ? And guess what, they're using mostly the same system in every match, just like every team has it's routined playing style. With the SM game engine it's not possible to know if a tactic is really effective against another playing style because you see it do so well in a match then in the next one against the same type of opponent it's just terrible. There's no consistency in the results whatsoever. When I first started playing the game I dind't worry about it too much because I didn't have the best players (I've managed Cagliari for example and finishing 7th in the league wasn't bad at all using mostly their default players), but after playing for a while I can only say that investing more time & attention to the game won't really give you any more satisfaction or better results. Also, I've seen managers on top of leagues using default 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 with all instructions set to the same player (i.e. targetman, playmaker) win game after game even without loging in for 2 weeks (granted they had good players) and other people actually trying to build a better squad just get randoms all too often. And another thing that should be taken into account is that when you have a superior squad playing a lower rated opponent, the one who should be worrying about countering the tactic is the lower-rated opponent, not the other way around. I mean you don't see Barcelona worrying too much about how to counter Deportivo La Coruna, right ? They just go there and play their game, it's up the opponent to try and match it. With AI teams in the game that rarely seems to be situation.
  3. Re: How about making a realistic game engine ?
  4. Re: Counter formations Those results were against AI teams that used the same default instructions. I've also set the same instructions in both fixtures, using fit higher-rated players. So, how can 2 matches with similar premises go in such different ways ? In the first one, which I won 3-0, my team was all over the opponent, with many missed chances too. Then in the next game, lost 0-1, the first chance came in late second half, everything else went to the opponents. Now if I would've used a different approach or unfit players I could understand the huge difference, but this way it just proves that the match engine is simply unpredictable and setting up a tactic is a gamble.
  5. Re: How about making a realistic game engine ? Ah, maybe we're just too harsh on the game. I mean you've got to admit the new Scout Opposition in exchange for credits is amazing. For example, I checked my next opponents' tactic and noticed they used 4-3-3. Then I decided to scout them and guess what: they're likely to play 4-3-3 ! Well whoopty doo, who would've guessed ?
  6. You know, one that would actually be worth setting up a tactic for. The updates so far are ridiculous. For example : Game 1: 4-2-3-1 against lower rated 4-2-4 : 3-0 Game 2: 4-2-3-1 against lower rated 4-2-4 : 0-1 (and not a chance until late second half) Or better yet, instead of that "watch the game" thing just make some "throw the dice" button instead and remove the formations and instructions altogether, after all it's all about the credits, right ? Or how about introducing an option to "fix" the result in exchange for some $ ? That would be wonderful and express the true value of this game.
  7. Re: Counter formations Just another example of "brilliant" the game really is: Game 1: 4-2-3-1 against 4-2-4 : 3-0 Game 2: 4-2-3-1 against 4-2-4 : 0-1 (and not a chance until the end of the game !) Well there you have it, tactics don't matter. But nevermind, keep buying those credits.
  8. Re: Unrealistic RESULTS.. Game's turned into a complete waste of time. Don't worry about tactics or players, it's all poop.
  9. Re: How about fixing the broken issues rather than cosmetic changes?? Actually, I think the game is worse now after the last updates. The match engine is just ridiculous, I mean do the tactics really make any difference ? The results just seem all random to me. Basically, there's no real incentive to try and prepare a match regarding formation and instructions, in the end you've got just as many chances of winning as in a dice game. But maybe there'll be another update sometime that would allow you to actually put together a string of good results in exchange for buying some credits.
  10. Re: Counter formations This game is just getting worse with each update. This can actually be taken as a tactical advice. Since the results seem pretty much all random, you can just use whatever formation you like, doesn't really make much difference. Oddly enough, the best results I've seen managed teams get in the leagues I played were with default instructions (i.e. normal tempo, normal tackling, etc.) and 1 player being assigned all the duties (i.e. captain, playmaker, targetman, etc.). This just shows you how really important all that stuff is. But don't worry, maybe they'll make an update in the future allowing you to actually win some games if you purchase some credits. That would be awesome.
  11. Re: Counter formations Tried a defensive 4-5-1 against a 4-2-3-1 and lost 0-3. So far, none of the counter formations I've used according to the instructions here have worked. Maybe it has something to do with the update...
  12. Re: Total LOAD OF RUBBISH!!! I've been playing the game for little over a year now and I never managed to put together a long string of good results, no matter what tactics I tried. At first I thought I didn't pay enough attention to it, but after trying out all sorts of different formations and advice from the forums, the situation is exactly the same. Winning 3-0 away, losing 1-4 at home, etc. If I manage not to lose for 5 matches that's a big achievement, even if it happens against lower rated teams, barely scraping with 2-2 draws in home games and such. Playing against AI teams is basically a lottery. For example, I've read around here that 4-5-1 or 3-5-2 should work against a 4-3-3 formation. Well, just recently I lost 2 matches against equally rated 4-3-3 teams (0-2 using 4-5-1 and 0-3 using 3-5-2, fit players, short passing and everything) so there you have it. Oddly enough, I'm doing much better in the European Cups where the AI takes over (I'm not Gold Manager any more) and I'm walking the groups and knock-out stages beating everybody. For example, in my first season with Napoli I made it all the way to the final, which I lost, but until there it was like a walk in the park. In the next season I bought GM and barely made it out of the groups (all lower rated teams) and then got knock-out quickly after that, so things started to look alot like the league matches I usually struggle with. I recently started the 3rd season with Napoli and so far things seem to be going in the same direction (won 4-0 away at Milan, then lost 1-2 at home against Juventus). And not to mention that I'd rather have a free-kick than a penalty. I've got guys like Lampard, Cavani or Lavezzi miss spot kicks all the time, but give them a free-kick around the area and about 2 times out of 3 they manage to score, which wouldn't be so bad if a minute or two later so do the opponents. No doubt that it can be fun to grab one of your favourite players and then see his rating go up or get a good result over a rival, but overall the game is becoming more frustrating than fun and I'm starting to lose my patience, especially since my best league finish so far is an amazing 4th place that happened in my first season with lower rated players and not so much attention to tactics (used an attacking 4-3-3 for most of the season). If anything, since starting to adjust tactics based on opponents all I got were at most the same fluctuating results as with any default tactic, which leads me to think that there's alot of randomness and "catch-up logic" in the match engine.
  13. Re: Counter formations Tried a default 4-4-2 with Normal Mentality, Short Passing, Counter-Attack and Men Behind Ball (since the opponent was so V. Attacking). It didn't work, I lost 1-2 but I can't say it's a surprise. After playing this game for over a year, I've never managed to get any string of good results, no matter the team or tactic. My longest unbeaten run was about 7 games I think, and back then I didn't even care about the tactics, just used the same one for every match, home or away. As interesting as it may be, I don't really think that the information in this thread makes too much difference in the end. For example, in another match I tried 4-5-1 in an away game against a default 4-3-3 formation and lost 2-0, so the 5-man midfield may work or it may not work against that type of formation. And like I said in a previous thread, I trashed an opponent 4-0 using a 4-2-2-2 which alot of people complain about. My guess is there's a lot of randomness in the match engine and tactics or formation don't really matter that much.
  14. Re: Counter formations I recently won an away game using a 4-2-2-2. But since I was leading after 60 minutes, I changed to a defensive 4-5-1 with short passing, slow tempo and ticked counter-attack, with the DM as playmaker and FC as targetman. I didn't score other goals, but kept the ball well and had a few chances, if that counts for anything. Here is how things looked at the start: The instructions: And the match stats: I've used 4-2-2-2 quite a few times in the past with some good results, but I didn't really care about opponent tactics then, so I can't really say how good it is against a specific formation. Also, most of the times I used it was with attacking mentality and direct passing + targetman ticked (one of the FCs). Now I decided for short passing because I think it keeps the ball better, thus creating more chances.
  15. Re: Counter formations Hey guys I'm playing at home against the following formation and I'm interested in some oppinions on how to best counter it. My team rating is about the same. I'm thinking a defensive 4-5-1 with short passing and slow tempo, with the DM as playmaker and FC as target man. What do you think ? Opponent formation : Opponent instructions :
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