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    The_Tactician got a reaction from Vandi in What is the best formation and tactics against a very strong 3-5-2?   
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    This one will be hard to win, but I want to post anyway because it's an intriguing setup by the opposition and a tricky situation you find yourself in. With his formation and ratings it will be hard for to score a lot of goals, so you should be adopting somewhat of a "spoiler" tactic yourself in this instance.
    One fundamental principle when facing the 3-5-2 is you must attack them on the flanks - there is no chance of getting them through the middle when you're up against five midfielders and a back three. Even Mixed direction is pointless when up against this formation, so always go "Both Flanks" against 3-5-2.
    A curious point about his setup is the role of the DM. Normally in this formation you'd expect the DM to dictate play (think Pirlo at Juve). However notice he plays a fast, direct game with the CM as playmaker and the CF set to target man i.e. he gets the ball up to them quickly, and bypasses his DM. That means you should NOT press them all over like I normally would against a DM as your pressers would also get bypassed quickly, giving them more space. Keep pressing to own half and mark tight instead, so that you are ready when he fires these balls up to his key men.
    I would probably start with 4-3-3 Wingers, no arrows. Normal Mentality, Tempo and Tackling. Direct Passing, Both Flanks Focus, Own Half Press. Men Behind Ball Yes, Tight Mark Yes, all others set to No (playmaker and target man would get eaten alive by their central concentration, counter attack won't work against their formation / defensive mentality, and offside useless given their rating advantage over your defenders).
    If losing at 60 minutes, change formation to 4-2-3-1 with full backs forward arrows, and wingers with diagonal forward arrows. Attacking Mentality, Fast Tempo, Hard Tackling, set "Men Behind Ball" to No, all other instructions the same.
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    The_Tactician got a reaction from Phil Brooks in The Iron Curtain - Season 20 with Legia Warszawa in WC818   
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    Penultimate Week

    I'm still hanging in there somehow, and I now need to beat Leverkusen by three clear goals in the last game of the season! Let's see what happens next round...

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    The_Tactician got a reaction from aheaps00 in Ultimate Squad Challenge - USC Discussion   
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    That's all my money now spent! Looking forward to kick-off, and I'll probably do a full preview for my side.
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    The_Tactician got a reaction from KopStar in Scottish Championship 1 - Season #28 with Rangers, a tactical analysis   
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    Halfway Point Update


    I am aware that many of my results have been up-and-down in this campaign since starting the thread, but I did say this was an incredibly competitive gameworld and you can see from the above table that there is just 6 points separating top and bottom at the halfway stage!
    Very pleasingly, I have sneaked into top spot at this stage despite just 5 wins from 11 games, so I am targeting at least 7 wins from the second set of games in order to secure the title. I am also in the final of the cup which comes next and I'll face Kilmarnock who rested their top team in the league, so it will be very difficult to win that.
    However the bottom line is I am top of the league and in the cup final, so that has to be considered a decent start. And the good thing is I am learning more and more about what it takes to beat certain teams in this setup, so that should stand me in good stead going into the second half of the season. Tight, but all to play for.
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    The_Tactician got a reaction from Tetlinho in ** New GW challenge - WITH PRIZES! **   
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    I like the sound of this one - request is sent Tetlinho
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    The_Tactician got a reaction from Phil Brooks in Scottish Championship 1 - Season #28 with Rangers, a tactical analysis   
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    ROUND 3 (A) vs Aberdeen - Results

    Another defeat on the road unfortunately. It's all going a bit LVG at the moment:

    Tactics at Kickoff

    60mins Tactics

    Analysis
    Disappointingly it's another loss, and as you can see for the third game in a row the team with the bulk of possession has won it. That is absolutely key in SM and it's a bit confusing as to why I see so little of the ball with such a highly-rated team. But the very interesting thing for me is that again for the third game in a row, the goals have all been lost by my "starting" setup - then when I've switched up to my alternative I've started to compete again (albeit too little, too late). It looks to me as the fancy formations aren't really working in this game anymore, and it might be time to go back to basics. Also the consistent factor with the switch tactics is that I've deployed a more aggressive line of tackling in those, so that might be a big factor in getting more possession of the ball in this competitive setup. A lot of goals are being conceded, so I may also have to play with a back 4 in future to tighten things up back there. A lot of food for thought going forward.
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    The_Tactician got a reaction from Nikidinho in TCO92 - Match Previews/Reports, Transfer News & General Nonsense.   
    Re: TCO92 - Match Previews/Reports, Transfer News & General Nonsense.
    Luton Town - The Philosophy

    After a encouraging first game I've now had enough time to assess the needs of the club in the short to mid term, and it's clear a lot of work will be required to make this venture a success in what is a highly competitive gameworld with many knowledgeable managers.
    The immediate priority for me is to address the financial situation at Luton. At the moment the football club has its eggs placed firmly in one basket. Without a penny in the bank, the club's financial "assets" are tied up in three high profile first-team signings: Victor Valdes, Aleksandr Kokorin and Mame Diouf. Whilst these lads have performed exceptionally well for the team and their contributions are very much appreciated, they are the only players in the entire squad with significantly high resale values to allow us to reinvest in the team. Given our stark lack of strength in depth I estimate the required investment in the playing squad to be around GBP30million at a minimum, so regretfully this means that the aforementioned players must be made available for transfer as soon as contractual obligations allow it. We thank them for all their efforts.
    Targets
    We must manage expectations: competition is exceptionally high and we will simply not compete by spending our money on tried and tested stars. Instead we will invest future transfer revenues in young players and under-hyped, unknown footballers from around the world in a self-sustaining model. Therefore my first target is to achieve a balanced squad of around 25 players, rated between 75-83 and with an average age of under 24 which will develop and grow collectively.
    Next season we will be playing in Division 4 after our relegation this term. I do not anticipate the prospect of automatic promotion for at least another two full seasons after this one, so we will be allowing our young players plenty of time to develop and settle into the first team. Nevertheless we must not forego our professional pride, and whilst I am anticipating a bottom half finish next season, I am confident that our preparation and work ethic will see us closer to mid-table than the foot of the division. The season after, we will be looking to move up to the playoff spots.
    Finally I am a pragmatist who was brought in to do a job, and I will not promise free-flowing football where it cannot be delivered with our current resources. So frankly we will do whatever it takes on the park to achieve results for this club. Stronger teams will undoubtedly win against us, but they will have to work very hard in order to do so - that's the one thing I can promise at this stage.
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    The_Tactician got a reaction from pedrooliveira in TCO92 - Match Previews/Reports, Transfer News & General Nonsense.   
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    The_Tactician got a reaction from Phil Brooks in Scottish Championship 1 - Season #28 with Rangers, a tactical analysis   
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    ROUND 1 (H) vs Heart of Midlothian


    Lineups
    Hearts have a well balanced First XI with a couple of decent players, but generally I am stronger all over the park and so I should be looking to take the initiative at home in this season opener. Definitely an attacking strategy in this one.

    Kick-off
    Below are the opening tactics, and Hearts lined up exactly as they did in their last pre-season game. It's a slightly tricky setup to play against as they will be compact, especially in the middle where they will look to win the battle aggressively. Therefore I decided the best course of action was to play a quick game to avoid their hard tackling style, and use a 4231 to get in behind the two banks of four - hoping that my direct passes would find their way in behind their midfield lines quickly, and draw their defenders out.

    45 Mins
    At the half-time point it was 1-1 and the possession was not great for me, so it was clear that while I was well in the game, things were not exactly going to plan. My Losing/Drawing @ 45 mins alternative switch that I set up before the game was to just rein things in a little and play a more measured game. Still an attacking mentality (I am still better than them) but more a case of "picking the battles" a little more carefully.
    I moved to 433 wingers which is a favourite of mine, in order to nullify their attacking midfielder and tighten things up in the midfield area which is a key battleground here. The full backs are sitting back now, to draw their midfielders out. Also I have changed to Mixed Passing / Mixed Direction, because their midfield is so packed and so I have to let my players make passing decisions based on the space that happens to be available at any given moment - hence the slowing down to "Normal" tempo to allow them time to make the necessary decision. However I still want to press them high up and stop them getting too much time on the ball, therefore I'm sticking to All Over and Offside Trap to squeeze their playing area. I trust my defenders to have the better of Gomez despite not marking tightly.

    Result
    So I got over the line in the end, winning 2-1 with the unlikely winner being Gerard Pique. I think the half time tactics ultimately made the difference and tightened the game up to allow me to take control, but this wasn't an easy 3 points and I'll need to be better next time around.

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    The_Tactician got a reaction from antondrobnjak in Do you have any idea how to counter 3-5-2 please?   
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    The_Tactician got a reaction from Phil Brooks in Do you have any idea how to counter 3-5-2 please?   
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    Agree with the principle of playing a slow passing game and picking your moments to make killer passes, but I don't see why you would play three central defenders against a lone striker. That just takes an extra body out of the attack against an ultra-defensive formation.
    Against a defensive setup with a lone striker, I always go with a back four and forward arrows on the full backs. That way you still get a spare man at the back, but you also get more of an attacking threat on the flanks.
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    The_Tactician got a reaction from RoyalAguila in What is the best formation and tactics against a very strong 3-5-2?   
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    This one will be hard to win, but I want to post anyway because it's an intriguing setup by the opposition and a tricky situation you find yourself in. With his formation and ratings it will be hard for to score a lot of goals, so you should be adopting somewhat of a "spoiler" tactic yourself in this instance.
    One fundamental principle when facing the 3-5-2 is you must attack them on the flanks - there is no chance of getting them through the middle when you're up against five midfielders and a back three. Even Mixed direction is pointless when up against this formation, so always go "Both Flanks" against 3-5-2.
    A curious point about his setup is the role of the DM. Normally in this formation you'd expect the DM to dictate play (think Pirlo at Juve). However notice he plays a fast, direct game with the CM as playmaker and the CF set to target man i.e. he gets the ball up to them quickly, and bypasses his DM. That means you should NOT press them all over like I normally would against a DM as your pressers would also get bypassed quickly, giving them more space. Keep pressing to own half and mark tight instead, so that you are ready when he fires these balls up to his key men.
    I would probably start with 4-3-3 Wingers, no arrows. Normal Mentality, Tempo and Tackling. Direct Passing, Both Flanks Focus, Own Half Press. Men Behind Ball Yes, Tight Mark Yes, all others set to No (playmaker and target man would get eaten alive by their central concentration, counter attack won't work against their formation / defensive mentality, and offside useless given their rating advantage over your defenders).
    If losing at 60 minutes, change formation to 4-2-3-1 with full backs forward arrows, and wingers with diagonal forward arrows. Attacking Mentality, Fast Tempo, Hard Tackling, set "Men Behind Ball" to No, all other instructions the same.
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    The_Tactician got a reaction from Papilon in Accommodating Messi & Ronaldo   
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    You need to focus more on getting the tactics and balance of your entire team right on a game by game basis, rather than worrying too much about accommodating the two players. The game isn't so sophisticated as to present friction between them e.g. both running into the same areas, not passing to each other etc, as may happen in real life if they ever do play together. At the end of the day their ratings are huge, so you just need to utilise them as the attacking focal point of whatever strategy you decide is going to win you the game. In general that should probably be Messi through the middle and Ronaldo wide.
    I wouldn't bother with the playmaker instruction as this is more suited to deep lying players, and neither Messi nor Ronaldo can play that role. Playmakers are more like Xavi or Pirlo.
    As for Target Man, it could work depending on your strategy. If you're playing a fast, direct game where the opponent has committed a lot of bodies in attacking areas, it may make sense to get the ball up to either of them quickly where they can hurt the opposition. But then again if you set one as target man, then will you be starving the other of the ball? I personally think that Playmaker / Target Man should be used only when one player specifically is head and shoulders above the rest of your team.
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    The_Tactician got a reaction from antondrobnjak in Match engine getting crazy!   
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    Two main problems for you here.
    Number one is that you were outnumbered in midfield. You had one central midfielder versus an opposition pair in the first formation, and three midfielders versus four in the second. So that's probably why you lost out on so much possession.
    Number two is that you deployed your attackers through the middle, which against 3 at the back is basically playing into their hands. Three at the back will eat up these direct passes through to your three central attacking players.
    Instead you should have overloaded the central area further back, and tried to get them on both flanks in their defensive area.
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    The_Tactician got a reaction from liamgriff in I don't usually struggle but..   
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    You are bypassing your midfield way too much with that tactical setup. My guess is that you are not controlling the games enough in terms of possession, and that's why you are losing.
    For starters you should not be using "Normal" mentality with Real Madrid. With that squad you have one of the very best in the game, and usually the other team should be worrying about you not the opposite. You can possibly move to "Normal" or "Defensive" when you are away to Barcelona, Bayern or Manchester United, but other than that you should be "Attacking" at least 80% of the time.
    If you look at your midfield, not only do you have 5 bodies in your formation, but you also have two of the best players in the business: Ronaldo and Fabregas. Yet when you set your team up with Normal mentality, Direct passing, Fast Tempo, Counter-Attack and Use Target Man, you are basically getting rid of the ball and moving it up to the other end of the park as quickly as you possibly can, without really imposing yourself on the game. The beauty of the 3-5-2 is the possession play it allows in midfield, but your tactics are set up to avoid this kind of play so there's a mismatch going on.
    Lose the "Target Man" instruction. Only use this if your Target Man is noticeably better than all your other offensive players, which neither of your forwards are in this case.
    Move to "Attacking" for the bulk of games. Move to "Short" passing for the bulk of games - this will get your midfielders more involved in play, and they are good enough to dominate in this respect. But use your brain too; for example, if the opponent is using 3-4-2-1 and pressing All Over, then you could really catch them out further up the park with Direct passing.
    Formation and Attacking Style are up to you to figure out and adapt based on your opponent. Let me be clear: you are NOT reacting to them and worrying about their strengths, but you are more concerned with "How will I hurt these guys today?" E.G. if he's playing 3 at the back, you may want to be getting him Down Both Flanks. If he plays flat 4-4-2 with no arrows, he has a lot of protection in wide areas and you may want to hit him through Central Midfield instead where he only has two bodies.
    Good luck
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    The_Tactician got a reaction from RoyalAguila in The Asymmetrical 4-3-3   
    Alright guys? I’ve lurked on here for a while and have just started to read some of the interesting tactical discussions on the forum. I think it’s a good game generally, and although there are quirks in the engine it is well balanced enough to justify serious tactical debate.
    So in my first post I wanted to share with you a formation that has worked well for me, and I think it would be particularly useful against the favoured and quasi-legendary 3-5-2 formation that is widely used by experienced managers in this game. This is my asymmetrical 4-3-3 wingers formation which was part inspired by Barcelona, but more so by Chelsea’s setup during the Jose Mourinho era. Here is a very, very basic MS Paint outline of how it stacks up to the 3-5-2 formation. Your players will be the red stars, and the opposition players are represented by the black circles.

    On a very basic level you must exploit the 3-5-2’s weakness on the flanks by overloading on the two wide midfielders / wing backs, and this is just common sense. The approach you take to exploit it, however, depends on what “type” of 3-5-2 you are coming up against. In the graphic above I am assuming the opposition are playing a flat 3-5-2 with Defensive or Normal mentality and no arrows. Therefore I am pushing my full backs up the pitch to put pressure on the opposition, because your attacking full backs are unlikely to get caught out on the flanks by “cautious” opposition wing backs and so you can achieve 2 vs 1 situations in the wide areas very often. It goes without saying that in this scenario your team mentality should be Attacking to set these situations up more often throughout the game. If on the other hand you are up against an Attacking, highly-rated 3-5-2 side then you absolutely must leave the arrows off your full backs. This means that no matter how far forward the opposition get on the flanks you will, at worst, have 1 on 1 in that area, so effectively their wide attacking threat is cut off and they must look to the middle to penetrate. However because their wide midfielders will be high up the pitch, your wide men will have plenty of space to catch them on the counter WITHOUT the threat of opposition full backs pressing them. In all situations you should attack Down Both Flanks.
    When the opposition uses 3-5-2 they will have a lot of bodies in midfield and attack, so you are unlikely to be able to outnumber them on the face of it. The key is to use the arrows and get runners in between the lines to disrupt the flow of their midfield, get a certain work-rate going, and make the numbers count for your side depending on the situation. An absolute necessity is the backwards arrow on your centre forward; this is probably more comparable to Didier Drogba’s role for Chelsea where he liked to harass the opposition physically, rather than Messi’s where he looks for space in deep areas to attack, but you could make a reasonable comparison with both. Without this arrow though the opposition defensive midfielder has too much space and time to keep play ticking over, and as you will be restricting their wide play their DM will naturally see a lot of the ball. You need to clamp down on this by applying pressure to him (no matter whether they are attacking or defending, their DM will be the one spraying passes up the field and he has to be stopped in all situations) and that pressure comes from your hard-working centre forward.
    You will also see that in conjunction with your attacking central midfielder who has the forward arrow set (think Lampard in his prime) this creates a kind of 4-way diamond shape in the centre of midfield which should outnumber them sufficiently to allow you to win the battle in that key area too. If you are up against a good Attacking side though, leave the forward arrow off the central midfielder and have your DM and two CM’s sit just as they are, to prevent their midfield runners from having too much space. Your main tactic will be catching them out on the flanks anyway, and as you will be playing more direct or mixed passing it’s fine for your other CM to sit and play these passes rather than bombing forward and potentially getting caught out.
    Your stationary winger is a key man in this tactic. Whereas the attacking winger with the arrow should be more of a forward (think Pedro, running in behind the defensive line) your other winger plays more of an Iniesta type position where he can drag out opposition defenders and disrupt their lines of play. If the opposition wide midfielder tracks back to deal with him, this leaves plenty of space for your full back to attack. If on the other hand their wide centre back steps out, this risks runs from your midfield or your centre forward in behind. Because all three of your attacking players are effectively on a different “level” on the field of play you can create chaos against a three-man defence, particularly when your shape allows 3 on 3 situations to occur. So always leave the arrows on the centre forward and the more attacking Pedro-esque winger, and you can cause havoc in their 3 man defensive line.
    To sum up, the strength of the opposition in using the 3-5-2 is their constricting of space in the central area at the back where your centre forward is playing. This is why you will use the arrows to disrupt their flat line as much as possible, and hope to catch them out with a run in behind. Where the 3-5-2 falls down however is that 3 players are basically taken out of the attacking play as opposed to just 2 with a “4 at the back” system (the DM being much more involved than their extra centre back) and so it’s very possible for you to outnumber them in all their other areas and gain control of the game. You just have to hope that eventually you will break through their defence, but given you will be achieving 3-on-3 situations this should happen eventually – even in a counter-attacking system.
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