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  1. Re: Official Liverpool Thread

    Lovren has played more than Balotelli.

    He has. But imo there's a lot more hope for Lovren coming good whereas Balo has shown to be unsuitable for our style and probably any other style for that matter. It's not enough that he takes focus away from Sturridge and leaves him in space, he has to be able to score as well. Lovren has not yet had a run for us in the back three and when he did play, there was a lot of chopping and changing in the back line. He can still become a decent player for us.

  2. Re: Official Liverpool Thread

    Hello. Not been here in a while but I think it might be safe to re-enter this thread now that "done a Spurs", "Suarez", "£100M" and "what is Rodgers doing?" don't seem to be appearing so often. I can understand rivals taking digs at us at the first possible moment but I was really disappointed with the short-sightedness of the Livepool fans. Not really referring to anyone particular here but there were plenty of people on Twitter who genuinely thought that Rodgers should be sacked which imo was insane. And so many of our signings where branded flops when really only Balotelli deserves that label (Lovren hasn't played enough, but yeah he's closer to a flop than anything else).

    Since Rodgers has been here, we've only lost 4 games all together in the Jan-May periods. So, yeah, there's nothing that's going to stop us from steamrolling our way to top 4, probably 3rd place. I suggested a long time ago (from something I'd read elsewhere) that our conditioning program is set for us to be fitter than the other teams during the second half of the season. That theory didn't get a whole lot of support here but I think it's obvious to see now.

    Blue line: Rodgers & Liverpool, Red line: Majority of premier league teams.


    We have averaged 2.6 points from our last 10 games (38x2.6=98.8) and that includes games against Man City, Spurs (H) and Soton (A). Like I said, nothing is going to stop us from getting CL football again for next season.

    Obviously would love us to win the FA Cup, too. Would be a very big deal for Rodgers, Gerrard and a lot of the younger players. Not the mention the fans, of course.

    Sky highlighting how good Coutinho was today.... how long till he moves on for £30m??? :(

    £30M? lol

  3. Re: Official Liverpool Thread

    Would be just an average signing that we'd no doubt overpay for' date=' not even what we need.


    Never seen a bigger list of flops in my life, I imagine 212 Million could have been spent a lot better than that. Dalglish has a bad rep for his purchases but spent half the amount that Rodgers did and not forgetting was the one who brought in Suarez and Henderson, Rodgers only really has Coutinho and Sturridge to his name.

    Think this is an advertisement for why a Director of Football is so important in the modern game, I really can't trust Rodgers to bring in what we need.

    Goalkeeper/Defensive Midfielder/Centre Back have to be a priority in January, Goalkeeper especially.

    Rodgers wouldn't work with one and we're already seeing the negative effects of having someone other than him having too big of a say in our transfers. Certain players of ours are thought to be signings who were never Rodgers' choices but were forced on him. Sakho, Balotelli, Aspas, Assaidi for example. Fair enough Aspas and Assaidi didn't cost much at all but I've always got the feeling that Rodgers has never given Sakho the same chances as others because he's not his player. I think it's a message he's trying to send that he needs 100% control. And I'd rather he had that in stead of having players that he really doesn't want... which then leads to him putting Martin Skrtel on the pitch.:o

  4. Re: Official Liverpool Thread

    Here's some of the reasons why I'm confident we'll finish in the top 4.

    Sturridge and Balotelli have played together only once, and that game was our 3-0 away win against Spurs. Ever since that game, we’ve had to play without Sturridge (cheers Roy) and it’s clear we’ve not yet figured out playing without him, although the Everton and WBA games were already pretty good from us. We have clearly got the quality and type of players to make it work, and if you don’t believe Rodgers is the man to make it work, you’ve not been paying enough attention.

    Lallana looks every bit a Liverpool player. He was born to play in a Brendan Rodgers team and he’s one of the first names on the team sheet imo. Really excited by what Lallana, Sturridge and Sterling can do together. Moreno is another one who looks like an instant success, possibly the best LB I’ve seen play for us. From the other signings Manquillo has looked good, Lovren has had good moments but a lot of the time he looks like a player forced to play next to Martin Skrtel. Markovic has not yet impressed but there’s been a pretty ridiculous overreaction to his performances considering he’s a 20-year-old kid in a new environment.

    It’s very early to say anything about our defense but the last two premier league games, we’ve conceded 2 goals: a penalty that wasn’t a penalty and a once-in-a-lifetime shot from distance. Those won’t happen every game so if we can reduce the opposition to as few chances as WBA & Everton had, I think that we’ll be okay there. It’s still not a very good defense but I’ve been pretty pleased with them in the last two games. The Basel game wasn’t bad either but the goal they scored could have been prevented pretty easily imo.

    Finally, the reason why I’m so confident is that United and Arsenal have neither been paricularly impressive. United especially considering who they’ve played. What will make me less confident is if Sturridge’s next injury is a longer one (2 months or more) or if we finish 3rd in our CL group and have to play EL. But so far I've seen very little to make me think that we won't finish in the top 4.

  5. Re: Official Liverpool Thread

    I wouldn't call it a travesty. More a testament to the sheer power of England as a country. Utter powerhouse of a nation.

    Seriously? Not exactly the impression I've gotten. As an outsider who's not particularly clued up on politics' date=' it seems like your government have got their priorities all wrong and you'd have the potential to be a LOT better as a country than you are now. But maybe you being from London have been looked after better than some others. This is way off topic now anyway.

    Not trolling, but I don't think you have a team that'll finish top 4 this season or how you can be so confident in your claims.

    Can't make my mind up about United yet as we've not been able to field our strongest starting line-up once so far this season and have had to constantly rotate players as well as integrate the new signings.

    I might write something a bit more extensively on why I'm so confident. Not bothered right now.

  6. Re: Official Liverpool Thread

    But we do have Di Maria for our investment. Who would you say your star signing was this season?

    What does it matter who our star signing was? We have a team that will finish in the CL spots, you don't. And why are you writing (or even reading) in the Liverpool thread while you're playing?:confused:

  7. Re: Official Liverpool Thread

    This Middlesbrough game couldn't really come at a better time. Need to rest a couple players while a few of them need more minutes with each other. Apparently Rossiter and Ojo are with squad and Rossiter is expected to make his debut. Which is fantastic news, because if he impresses then he could be a realistic option for the midfield before Lucas (who is one of our most pointless players at the moment).

    It would be harsh on Toure to leave him on the bench but we really need to try and get any of our CBs to get more familiar with each other so this would be another opportunity for Lovren-Sakho, which imo is our most promising CB pairing.

    Manquillo - Lovren - Sakho - Moreno


    Suso - Rossiter


    Lambert - Markovic

    Midfield doesn't look the strongest when Gerrard needs a rest, Henderson might be out and Allen, Coutinho and Can are definitely out. If Henderson is fit, then take Lucas off and put Rossiter in his place and Hendo next to Suso.

  8. Re: Official Liverpool Thread

    100k-a-week wages for 2 years is the equivalent of a £6M fee and 40k-a-week wages, so it's not that big of an outlay really. I've never believed in having two GKs of such a high quality, and if we do bring in Valdes I think it'll be to replace Mignolet somewhere down the line if he can prove his fitness.

  9. Re: Official Liverpool Thread

    I agree with getting rid of Borini and Assaidi permanently' date=' but I'm really pleased that we've held on to Lucas. It surprises me that, even now, he is still not rated by a lot of people despite proving himself over the years. He has been such a great servant for this club and it's sad to see so many fans calling for his head just because he's not in the starting eleven at present.

    [b']Reply: He proved himself, then got injured and he's never been the same. I don't have anything against him, just that he isn't good enough for us. For me Allen is a better option for any midfield role.[/b]

    He played in 29 games for us last season (27 in the league) including some of our biggest wins (both games against Spurs and Man City at Anfield). Have we really strengthened our midfield over the summer? Other than the addition of Can it's essentially the same midfield. If Gerrard picks up an injury (or needs a rest) which is quite likely, Lucas is still the best replacement for me. On top of that he is currently one of our most experienced players, given how young our team is, he is also one of only a handful players who have played in the Champions League. His experience could prove invaluable. As well as all of that, he's still the best option we have to bring on to close out a game.

    Gerrard, Skrtel, Johnson, Toure, Lovren, Coutinho, Sturridge, Sakho, (Manquillo?), Lucas, Can, Skrtel, Balotelli, Markovic. That's a rather large handful, isn't it?:) Also loads of our players have played EL which is better than no European football.

  10. Re: Official Liverpool Thread

    Or perhaps he's very ambitious? What if you were at Liverpool' date=' aged what about 23, and knew this was really your one shot at making it a big club. Would you want to try all you can to take it, or give up and take the easy route? The fact that Borini still with us says to me he really wants to be here, not that he's in it for the wage. Really surprised at the negative reception he's getting for clearly trying to prove his critics wrong. It might be far fetched but it's not impossible. Plus I suspect he likes working under Rodgers as well.[/quote']

    If I were at Liverpool, aged 23 knowing it's my only chance to make it at a big club, I'd stay and fight for my place. But that's not the situation Borini's looking at. This is his chance to make some money while sitting in the stands. By going to QPR or Sunderland he would have been given the chance to show how good he is and then earn a move to a big club. Borini likes Rodgers and Rodgers likes him but I can tell you BR has absolutely zero faith in him when it comes to actually producing something on the pitch.

    If Balotelli, Sturridge & Lambert were unavailable, Borini would only make the bench for me.

  11. Re: Official Red Devils Thread

    How are you seriously going to handle all of this financially? You've got an insane wage bill, not too much resale value in your players (bar the ones you've just bought plus 2 or 3 in your squad), you're not going to make top 4 this season and you'll eventually have to buy the defensive players you need and if you finish clearly behind the top 4, it will be even harder to attract the really good players. And next summer, you'll need at least one quality striker, too (Falcao permanently or someone else).

    I know you're a commercial powerhouse but surely that won't keep you alive forever?

  12. Re: Official Liverpool Thread

    A very good window for us, although it would have been nice to be able to shift a couple more players (Borini, Lucas, Assaidi permanently). We've got quality & enough depth throughout the team and a lot of our better players are still very young.

    Plenty of players have proved to be happy picking up the wages on a big club's roster.

    Borini might think he's good enough to break through at Liverpool.

    Nope' date=' he's been made clear he'll struggle to play even in the cup games. He wasn't in the 20-man squad that traveled to Spurs last weekend and he won't be involved in any way when Balotelli, Sturridge & Lambert are all fit. He's just a very unambitious man.

    I remember having conversations with many on this thread on how Di Maria and Falcao would never sign for Liverpool and being told to stop trolling.

    I also remember being told that if they wouldn't sign for Liverpool United had no chance.

    Just thought I'd remind you all of what a currently 14th placed side, not in the Champions league can do in the transfer market compared the mighty Liverpool.


    In other news do you think anyone will be signed by Liverpool today?

    Ben, I remember a certain someone claiming that there was no way Liverpool would be able to buy players for all their 5-6 problem areas. How did that work out?:)

  13. Re: Official Red Devils Thread

    This Falcao deal seems absolutely mental considering his age & fitness issues, fee & wages + limited resale value, the fact you don't need a striker that desperately & you don't have CL football. I wonder how well you can financially handle all of this without CL for (imo) at least 2 years.

  14. Re: Official Liverpool Thread

    Refreshing to see us with two good full-backs, isn't it? And without Skrtel, too.

    Dan Kennett @DanKennett · 11h

    under Rodgers #LFC have kept 9 clean sheets in the 15 EPL matches that Martin Skrtel has not started. Includes the last FIVE in a row.

    Since the x3 1-0 wins at start of 2013/14, #LFC have only kept 8 clean sheets in 38 EPL matches.

    Lovren and Sakho made some mistakes but for the most part they were exactly the kind of mistakes that happen when you're trying out a new partnership. Let them gel and I think that's potentially a very good partnership. Keep in mind that Sakho had very little match fitness, so it was to be expected that he would make 1 or 2 mistakes.

    6 points from the first 3 games is a decent start (7 would have been ideal) considering those three teams are all top half sides and two of the more difficult ones were away. At the moment, I don't see a reason why we won't finish in the top 3.

  15. Re: Official Liverpool Thread

    Hmmm not sure it would be smart to play 4 players who have barely played together against our (bar last season) bogey team' date=' especially a completely new centre-back partnership. I expect going up against Spurs will be a completely different game this season they look a much better outfit than last year and we don't have a settled line-up either. I'd be happy with the draw especially being away from home, in the grand scheme of things 4 points from our opening three is poor but to get two of our hardest away games out the way should allow us to build. Hope Balotelli debuts it may be the spark we need to get the win.[/quote']

    It's exactly the back-four I'd play. Skrtel, Johnson, Flanagan & Enrique all injured or short of match fitness. It doesn't leave us with a lot of options and I think that's our strongest back-four on paper.

    Gerrard, Henderson, Allen, Markovic, Sturridge & Sterling rumoured to be the rest of the starting lineup.

    It doesn't sound nice but I think it's a blessing in disguise that Johnson and Skrtel are injured. Skrtel is just really, really average and I don't really need to say anything about Johnson, do I? Hope Sakho and Manquillo get to a good run of form so Rodgers doesn't put Skrtel/Johnson straight in the starting lineup when they come back.

  16. Re: Official Liverpool Thread

    There's apparently bonuses up to £2M (!) in Balotelli's contract if he performs well and doesn't do anything stupid. I don't know how money motivated he is but it sounds like a deal that should get the best out of him.

    You haven't replaced Suarez' date=' a cracking summer? You have pretty much bought a clown to replace Suarez, in Balotelli that is.

    A better summer then previous that's for sure. Italy won't keep taking him back.[/color']


    CaptainObvious isn't a Liverpool fan, quite the opposite.

    We've not had the perfect summer because that would have meant Suarez staying but we've brought in FIVE (Balo, Lovren, Lallana, Markovic, Moreno) significant additions to the squad and three who will have some impact (Can, Manquillo, Lambert) + one of the most promising strikers of his age group (Origi), so it's been a very good transfer window so far.

  17. Re: Official Liverpool Thread

    Im not saying he isn't good at getting the best out of players' date=' I'm saying he won't be the best to tame him, to control him etc.[/color']

    I don't think anyone can tame him ie. change him. He's always going to be a bit of a loose cannon but what I think is possible is for a manager to get him to perform somewhat consistently and be a valuable player for the team. And that's what I think Rodgers can do, better than just about any other manager I can think of.

  18. Re: Official Liverpool Thread

    Think Balotelli is what you lot need. Perhaps not the first striker Liverpool would like to of bring in but 2nd no doubt.

    Being in more comps this year will require you lot to have more fire power up front' date=' considering Sturridge is bound to get fatigue or injured some time throughout the season.

    I think he could turn out great for you lot and will def bang in a few goals no doubt. Whither or not Rogers will be able to tame this lad is a different story. He has played under some good managers and has always managed to get of track and become a pest. [b']I personally don't think Rogers has the mind frame or ability to keep him cool and calm.[/b]

    If there was ever a manager who could just bring the best out or Mario and make him see his full potential with out the things he does on the side it would be Sir Alex.

    Are you basing this on anything? He has a very good track record of getting the best out of his players, even the difficult ones, and I can't think of a better manager to handle him than Rodgers. The only players he's not improved are basically ones that have already been declining + Borini.

  19. Re: Official Liverpool Thread

    Carragher must have being high as he thinks Balo won't get into the Liverpool team :)

    If he doesn't perform well, it won't be difficult to drop him because we've got other options. And Sturridge is still clearly the number 1 striker so if we want to play 4-3-3, he might not be in the starting lineup.

  20. Re: Official Liverpool Thread

    Methinks it'll look more like this:


    Johnson - Skrtel - Lovren - Moreno


    Coutinho - Henderson


    Balotelli - Sturridge

    I agree with that (possibly a different back four). I prefer Coutinho playing slightly deeper than right behind the strikers with Sterling in a 'free' role, Moreno and Manquillo bombing forward. I think that's really, really strong against the weaker teams who park the bus against us.

  21. Re: Official Liverpool Thread

    I'm not Balotelli's biggest fan but I'm not sure how anyone can say that £17.5M would be expensive for him. In the current market, that actually seems rather cheap for a 24-year-old Italian international who basically has a 1-in-2 goal-scoring record (low chance conversion, though).

    He wouldn't be my first choice by any means but Rodgers, along with Steve Peters, have as good a chance as anybody to get the best out of Balotelli.

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