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According to you..... unfortunately for you you are wrong, that is not an opinion, that is a fact.... There are plenty of people out there that don't believe VVD is the best CB in the world right now and those people are entirely entitled to their opinion.... Thus, as matter of FACT there simply IS an argument to be had, weather you like it or not... You are simply, wrong

All that talk, and you say nothing.... again, I ask you (for the last time) VVD is the best CB in the world and it's not up for debate, because you said so..... Why? Stop going on about his stats and the Utd match etc, try STICKING TO THE SUBJECT WHICH IS WHY IS IT NOT UP FOR DEBATE BECAUSE YOU SAID SO.... what makes you the final decision on who is the best CB in the world, THATS the subject

Not sure how you connect disputing weather or not VVD is the best CB in the world with a pretty expect result yesterday, wow Liverpool are miles ahead of Utd, and in other news water is wet.... What's that got to do with you deciding that VVD is the best CB in the world and it's not even up for discussion simply because your grace decided to open his mouth and announce so???? Stick to the subject

There is no disputing it because???? Because you said so????? Well glad that's all over and done with then..... honestly

What sort of things does this 'offensive sock' say?

Oh god.... again..... DDG has a premier league winners medal and hes won the Europa Legaue twice... Once again, illustrating my point, the higher ratings (93+) USED TO have trophies included as part of the players rating Again, for the last time, my ONLY point is that Koulibaly has won basically nothing and now it seems that trophies are not important to SM.... Last time, that's the ONLY point I was making

Again..... the point I was making, gone way over your head......... In very basic simple terms, my point is Koulibaly got 94 on the back of a load of hype, which is true as he doesn't have the trophies to back it up, so again MY POINT WAS TROPHIES DON'T MATTER... I was not arguing who deserves what rise, for the love of god, I've never disagreed that Koulibaly ain't world class, and I used Pogba to MAKE MY POINT, again, I agree that Pogba 100% shouldn't get a rise, in fact i argued in this thread he was closer the drop! But again, he, Lingard and even VVD, HYPE! Yes VVD won 1 champions league, fair play.. 92-93 would have been fine for that, he got that +1 on HYPE! That's the ONLY point I've been making, Koulibaly is top drawer (IMO 92-93 max without trophies) same for Pogba, same for VVD.... Again, I stress the importance of winning trophies has been take out of the ratings system, it used to matter but obviously not anymore.

Wrong

Very simply because none of those players are touted in the papers as 'being some of the best in the world' like a certain CB from Senegal that's won NOTHING and got 94.... Who cares if Laporte has been incredible, people only want to hear about how VVD has never been dribbled past! Big LOL! SM has changed, it's not based on trophies and performances on the pitch anymore, wanna know who's gonna rise past 92? Pick up a newspaper and read the back page! Just look at Lingard! Hes 91 rated!!!!!!!

De Ligt can get 101 at Juve if Koulibaly can get 94!

Oh no, I'm sorry! You are one of those people who thinks 2nd place should get some sort of trophy? Nowhere near Juve means, although yes they have finished 2nd, they haven't laid a glove on Juve, it's you my friend that clearly knows nothing about actual football

That's like saying it's not Pogba's fault Utd don't win anything and missed out on top 4, dead wrong, he has to shoulder a lot of the blame, the BIG players at these clubs have to stand up and be accountable How is it not Koulibaly's fault? He gets PAID to play for them! Surely if hes 'one of the best defenders in the world' they can win SOMETHING! they are in for about 4 trophies at the start of each season and are nowhere near Juve in the league in the last 5 or so years..... Anyhow, you'll notice I said at the outset he's a top defender l, but for 94 you'd really want to be putting trophies on the table

Jokes are usually funnier if they somehow tie in with each other..... That didn't

Well, we can definitely put the myth of 93+ is reserved for players who in trophies to bed.... Look, Koulibaly as fine a defender as he is, and let's face it, he is..... is a complete farce at 94! Napoli haven't won an argument in the last 5 years! Its plain ad day now that SM ratings take one factor into consideration more than any other and that's HYPE! simple as that

Agreed, that could very easily change should Pogba sign for Juve, I think at Real he could realise his full potential, it's clear as day that it wont happen at Old Trafford