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Promoted Watford + relegated Rotherham, Sheff Wed, Wycombe + promoted Hull, Peterborough and Blackpool today. Looks like League One is next.

Got 85 earlier in the yeah. Watkins was the same last year. If he gets going in the PL he'll be 87 in no time. I don't think the polls on SW are linked to ratings. There's no option at all to vote on ratings. Those polls seem to be for other details.

Alright, I have edited

All 86+ players in the Champ are now from relegated Prem sides (including Bournemouth). All but 7 85s are also relegated. Bennett dropped, Morrison, Kaminski and Kalas deemed 85 quality, Johansen transferred from Fulham to QPR, leaving Armstrong and Moore as the only ones to get 85 in the Champ (Toney too). So that's clearly the established squad cap. Interested to see how many of these guys stick around in the Champ. Surely Anguissa, Lerma, Berge, Pereira move on.

QPR, Reading, Stoke, Swansea and one Watford change done today. I realised relegated teams Rotherham, Sheff Wed, Wycombe are not part of this review. Makes sense, and they might get done whenever League 1 is. So Watford to close this tomorrow.

Yeah I guess. Overlooked as he returned back to Leicester. I mean, it was reviewed in Feb. I suppose there is a closer eye on Championship as it's in England. Brentford done. Nothing major, few regulars went to 84. Expect a few 86s in the PL review in winter if they do well.

Luton, Middlesbrough, Millwall, Norwich, Nottingham, Preston done today. Remaining teams by order: QPR, Reading, Rotherham, Sheff Wed, Stoke, Swansea, Watford, Wycombe. Some notable drops not in the above list: Stiepermann, Rupp, Sinclair.

Cardiff, Coventry, Derby, Huddersfield done today. Remaining teams by order: Luton, Middlesbrough, Millwall, Norwich, Nottingham, Preston, QPR, Reading, Rotherham, Sheff Wed, Stoke, Swansea, Watford, Wycombe. Should be done by end of the week.

If ever there was proof China is no longer the prime destination for a pay check - a result of the government levying a 100% tax on transfers and wanting to cut down expenditure - see this summer. Paulinho and Talisca to Saudi clubs, Renato Augusto to Corinthians. Alex Teixeira free agent. Arnautovic nearing a move to Bologna.

I never really expected anything major. All 26 of Italy's squad were looked at in the Big 5 review. 21 of 28 in Argentina's squad are from Big 5. Two Dutch (Tagliafico, Lisandro) and Portuguese (Otamendi, Marchesin). Leaves three from Argentina - Armani, Montiel, Julian Alvarez. Suppose Montiel could get 87. They'll do South America soon, I hope.

Appears that they are doing the Championship post-season review by alphabetical order. Why, I don't know. Anyways, AFC Bournemouth and Barnsley were done yesterday. A bit more Barnsley, Birmingham, Blackburn, Brentford and Bristol City done today. 6/24 teams done. Above preds are from the last review, just updating now. Remaining teams by order: Cardiff, Coventry, Derby, Huddersfield, Luton, Middlesbrough, Millwall, Norwich, Nottingham, Preston, QPR, Reading, Rotherham, Sheff Wed, Stoke, Swansea, Watford, Wycombe. Suppose this will take a week if they do three a day (average). Good rises for promoted Brentford btw.

finally!

Myles Peart-Harris to Brentford completed @Kieran_S91 After Bate, two done, and two more to go (Simeu to Soton, Livramento to ??)

Excellent move from him too, an education under Bielsa who likes to involve the U23s in training. If he's good he'll get opportunities. Back-up for Phillips?

Yeah most of that were my edits, I was tidying up the second teams of those leagues.

Pearl-Harris linked closely with Brentford (as per the Athletic piece) and Livramento wants out too. Interesting to see where these three go.

Real Sociedad B are in the Spanish second tier this season and so their players may be one to keep an eye out for.

Ah it was you! Congrats mate

Happy birthday @Kieran_S91!

Callum Doyle has moved to Sunderland on loan from Man City, not on DB.

(i) My point is that none of us on discord are actually deciding anything. We are not deciding positions by vote, we are not deciding ratings. The chat is a mix of people looking to see what review is next (like Kieran said), a lot of league experts who contribute to their league, and then a few who contribute overall. The voting I'm referring to is on Soccerwiki itself. I personally don't 'vote' on any changes there unless I'm reallyyyyyy bored. (vi) yes but you said 'wrath of some of us' (v) But aren't we always blind sided by position changes? The point of the Discord is really not for us to approve any of these individual position changes. Anyways it looks like there is a clear pattern right now (Ligue 1). There is no way of knowing how many of these changes are loaded in the database.

Terem Moffi +20 I feel +10s will get less frequent now given SM stagger rises, so it'll only be for the more obscure players. 1. I have no issue with the position changes, especially the ones now, mainly 85-87 rated players and some of them are actually getting positions added too. So if it isn't bothering me, I'm not being 'taken for a fool'. 2. This discord is specifically for Soccerwiki and to have a more centralised way of having accurate data, with league experts. Now this feeds into improving the game. After all these mass-scale changes go through I don't expect it to happen again. All this is to correct years of neglect. 3. Slip-up? 4. Exert pressure for what? These changes are being inputed to the database but they still need approval. And clearly people are approving. Those of us on the Discord have no special power, SW is a community site and there are loads of people outside of the chat who input changes too, and we have no way of contacting them. Steven and co know this. KDB is one such example, and someone will surely reverse this soon. 5. This isn't a job, it's part of the game experience for me and a hobby. The day it stops getting fun for me, I'll stop. And please, Steven is no boss of mine, just a more direct line to the people that run the game. 6. I don't know what wrath you're referring to, because it's largely only you and tbh I don't really bother anyways. Ultimately it's just a game. And the Discord chat has been portrayed as some elite secret club when in really anybody with a mind to help out can join. Not you but generally people seem to want change overnight. On Brazil: plenty of European leagues to be done first. Brazil may only get done in Oct or something.

Sure, will do

I think Turkey is the next review tbh, after they make a move on from Portugal

If anyone's interested in this sort of thing. Not a lot of top-tier players who've retired this summer.