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  1. Re: Players position

    to type all that u clearly hav no life. like i said' date=' ill do it my way and u do it ur way. and il keep making a success of my teams also, so shut the **** up cz ur boring me with ur silly little 'im just going to quite this, and that' ******* do 1. :mad:[/quote']

    First of all, I couldn't care less for how you play this game. This thread is NOT about that.

    Second of all, THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT THAT... sorry... it's not.

    And finally, if you can't communicate like a civilized human being, don't talk to me.

  2. Re: Players position

    first of all' date=' ur problem with wingers is simple. a LM cant play on the wing, else he wud be a W! so if ur playin an F/W in left mid, u mite aswel go the whole hog and put ur forwards at the back!

    and ur situation with messi, good rating doesnt necessarily = good performances, u should be able to get the best out of them with good tactics.[/quote']

    Man, I don't even know where to start with you. One thing is for sure, though, you didn't even tried to understand what I'm saying here. You just came to criticize.

    For your information, I've won both Division 1 in all active(!!!) league and Champions Cup with the same team(!!!) last season. That much about my tactical knowledge. And you saying that playing winger as a RM or LM is the same as playing forwards at the back(!?!), tells a lot about your understanding of the game. I mean, it's not like I said that we should play defenders as a forwards, for God sake. I really don't know what your problem is, but you're clearly mixing potatoes and tomatoes here.

    Anyway, the reason why I've opened this thread was not to discuss where players should play, but to discuss what is the practical use of versatile players in this game when it's clear that they are completely useless in their secondary positions. I mean, CB/CM will be just horrible in midfield and F/AM will be just as horrible as a AM. Do you understand what I'm saying? I mean, why did SM gave them those secondary positions if they can't perform?

    For the end, I'm just going to quote some of the things that I said earlier and that you tried to discredit, in hope that the second reading will help you to understand my arguments more clearly:

    I had a LM/F who was just brilliant as a left winger for me. Then his position changed to F/W and now, that exact same player in that exact same left winger position where he was brilliant prior to position change can't average more then 6.0 (???).

    Can't you see my point here? He was just brilliant in that position for more then a half of the season and then, after the position change, suddenly, for the rest of the season, he can't perform better then 6.0?!? We're talking about the same player here!!! Surely, I don't argue that his performance shouldn't go down a bit as a result of that change, but certainly not from 8.5 to 6.0.

    Let me give you another example: I have Arturo Vidal who is listed as a DM/LB now. What do you think his Av. Pf. at LB position should be? I'm sure that they wouldn't go over 6.5. Now, I can't know that for sure, of course, but I'm not stupid to play him there either.

    And for Messi, you replied:

    ...and ur situation with Messi, good rating doesn't necessarily = good performances, u should be able to get the best out of them with good tactics.

    You just made me laugh there:D It's not that I've played him as defender, heck, I didn't even played him as a midfielder, I played him as a AM, right behind the central striker!!! Can't you see the difference? SM listed him as a F/AM. What is the use of that AM? Besides, don't you think that his perfect position in 4-3-2-1 formation is spot #10? Please, go to the Tactics, click on Formations and look where that spot #10 is and then tell me that his average performance shouldn't be higher then 6.80. C'mon, man, be objective.

  3. Re: Italian Ratings

    Has ben playing well actually' date=' but I still feel 89 is tops for him at the moment [b']until he starts playing for the national team[/b].

    Starts playing for the National team? What are you talking about, he's Montenegro's best player and he's their National team captain, too.

    I would say that the only reason why he spend so much time on the bench and therefore dropped from 90 was due to Roma's tactic with Totti being the most offensive player on a team and I really think that Vucinic proved that in this past couple of weeks.

    I'm sure that he'll lose his spot again as soon as Totti's fit (unless Roma decides to change their tactic, which is unlikely), but that doesn't mean that his ratings should go up and down just based on whether Totti's on or out of the team, right? Besides, Totti is 96. I really don't see why Vucinic couldn't be 90 as his replacement. I mean, there is a bunch of players who are barely playing for their teams and their ratings are still above 90 simply 'cause they deserve them or should I say, they don't deserve to go below that line:D

    Btw, I read today that Real Madrid wants to sign him in the winter transfer window. Did anyone heard anything about that?

  4. Re: Who Should I Buy

    First of all, get rid of at least one of those goalies, man:) I mean, seriously, even if you got them all for free, it still doesn't make sense to keep them all... unless, of course, you're planing to fill midfield with them:D

    Now, I don't know what formation you're playing, but it seems that you could use a good left wingback... maybe Arsenal's G. Clichy - he's young and he should get an increase in the next rating change - or Barcelona's E. Abidal if you're looking for higher ratings. Consider also, Real's R. Drenthe and Marcelo. I mean, they might have a bit too low ratings for your taste:) , but they certainly have a bright future in this game.

    In general, you could get more defenders - R. Albiol, G. Sergio Ramos, P. Mexes, B. Sagna, R. Alexis... to name a few - and maybe another striker - L. Messi, F. Torres, K. Benzema, B. Krkic or maybe S. Jovetic. It doesn't seem that you need more midfielders, but if you're going to buy somebody I would advice you to go for either C. Fabregas or S. Nasri.

    In the end, whatever your decision might be, look for a younger players ONLY.

  5. I'd like to talk about player positions - CB/DM, CM/AM, F/AM, F/W,...etc.

    I know what's the idea behind that, but, to be honest, I really can't see no practical use.

    I mean, I don't know does anyone has the same experience as I do, but, pretty much, all of my versatile players are literally useless when they play in their secondary position... so, my question is... what is the purpose of that, if they can play well only in their first choice position?

    I mean, let's take LB/LM player as an example... if you play him as a winger, there is no way that he'll average more then 6.5 Av. Pf. (???) if that much. Same if we play LM/LB as a wingback. Or, if we take F/W playing a winger as an example, their Av. Pf. ratings are going to be even worse - 6.0 the most(???)

    I had a LM/F who was just brilliant as a left winger for me. Then his position changed to F/W and now, that exact same player in that exact same left winger position where he was brilliant prior to position change can't average more then 6.0 (???).

    I mean, seriously, something has to be done regarding this issue, 'cause those players have double positions for a reason. Now, don't get me wrong, I understand that they can't play as good in their secondary position as they can play in their primary position, but, seriously... I mean, I'm using Lionel Messi as a AM (#10) in 4-3-2-1 formation and he just can't go over 7 Av. Pf. (???) for a two consecutive seasons (???) Do I have to say anything else? What's even more absurd is that that is actually his natural position.

    I don't know... What do you, guys, think about this? Can this be fixed somehow?

  6. Re: Montenegrin most promising players

    Manchester United are close to signing Partizan Belgrade star Stevan Jovetic for £7m. The 17-year-old Montenegro international has scored six goals for his club side this season. (The Sun).
    I got this from the BBC' date=' and it seems like he would be joining United...

    Does that mean he would instantly gain an increase or what?

    I would also recommend buying him, only rated 83 at the moment.[/quote']

    Man UTD, Man City, Chelsea, Real M... there is quiet a lot of teams that would like to sign him. I would give a slight advantage to Real M, though, as their current sport director, Pedja Mijatovic, is a one of the most famous and most beloved Partizan's players. I think that that link might play a big role at the end.

    And for his ratings... well, he's already up to 85, so it might seem that he can't go further then that while in Serbia, but let's not forget that we're talking about a real prodigy here. I mean, he just turned 18 and yet, he's already a league leading team top scorer and he's regular for his National team. I mean, how crazy is that?

    Besides, Croatian league is no better then Serbian league and they had Eduardo da Silva at 90 and they still have Luka Modric at 91.

    I mean, if he can keep his current form, I really don't see any reason why his ratings shouldn't go up again.

    Whoever didn't get him yet, it's still not too late:)

  7. Re: argentinean league thread

    Abeilaras has been playing well. River's manager just quit' date=' but before he did he was using him constantly as a sub. It's hard to start games when you have Augusto Fernandez and Belluschi in the team. I believed he would start more games because Passarella was playing Belluschi in the center of the midfield even though it was clear he's best playing wide. With Belluschi playing on the left and Augusto on the right he can only aspire to be a sub, but I expect him to star a few games due to rotation. He started one of the Copa Sudamericana semifinals because Augusto Fernandez was injured. He's a good player and whenever he's on the pitch he's in charge of the free kicks as he's a specialist. I'd wait for one more increase before selling him because 83 doesn't reflect his ability but as I said his chances of breaking into the first team are slim.

    Gary Medel has had some disciplinary issued lately. He also missed quite a few games fue to suspension and an injury but from what I've heard from him he's a really good player and definitely one for the future. If I had him in my squad I'd hold on to him but right now I'm not 100% sure he's worth buying because he's not exactly cheap and there are many other good young players you could be spending that money on. I'd say he has the potential to reach a 88 by next year, but will probably need to move to a bigger league for his rating to keep improving from there. I'll do some research and get back to you.[/quote']

    Thanks for the info. I was planing to either sell him or to include him in a part-exchange, but I guess I'll wait till the next rating change to do so.

    And for Medel, I actually already got him... pretty cheap, too:) I swapped one of my overrated players for him:D I just wanted to know what you think about him. If you find anything new about him, please, let me know.

    Thanks once again and all best:)

  8. Re: argentinean league thread

    Hi, Teje:)

    Can you, please, tell me how's Matias Abelairas doing? Do you think that he'll get an increase in the next rating change and if so, how much is that increase going to be?

    The other player I want to ask you about is Gary Medel(Universidad Católica/ Chile). I mean, I know that your speciality is Argentinian league, but I'm still hoping that you can give me some valuable info on him:D He certainly seems like a good prospect.

  9. Re: Contracts

    If you can't find the offer new contract in the drop down box then you have or the previous manager has offered him a contract recently or he has just been bought.

    Do you know exactly how long a player have to be in your team before you can offer him a new contract? I have a player who's already two seasons with me and I still can't offer him a new contract:(

  10. Re: Players from the Balkans

    But Zvjedan Misimovic is a trully great player' date=' he is also good buy for bigger clubs as he was a star in Germany last year, [b']most under-rated AM in the bundesliga[/b], last year he was 2nd bets AM behind Diego. IMO he should be rated at least 91. So defo a good buy even for bigger clubs.

    Totally agree. There's no doubt that he'll go over 90.

  11. Re: Contracts

    It isn't a new rule and Shelbs was wrong is only 1 year. If a player has more than 1 year remaining on his current contract then the manager can't offer that player a new contract so it isn't a bug it is just a rule.

    I'm sorry' date=' but I'm afraid you're wrong. I can assure you that I was and [b']I still am[/b] able to offer a new contracts to majority of my players whether they had 1 or 4 years left on their old contract. As a matter of fact, I never had a player who was in the final year of his contract simply 'cause I was always extending their contracts prior to that. It's just that I can't do that with certain players.

    I don't know how to prove this unless you can somehow go to the my account and see it for yourself.

  12. Re: Players from the Balkans

    Lamine DIARRA (CF/23/75) is not from Balkan :) He is a Senegalese football player currently playing for Partizan Belgrade. Anyway, he's rated only 75 (got +4 increase in the last rating change) at the moment and I think he's a pretty good investment for those who are managing smaller clubs.

    I admit that I don't have much inside info on players from Croatia, but the one that I strongly recommend is Vedran Corluka (CB/RB/21/89) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedran_%C4%86orluka

    He's still very young and, as far as I'm concerned, he's doing very well in England. If he manage to keep his first team place, I can see him going over 90 in the future.

    Luka Modric (CM/AM/22/90) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luka_Modri%C4%87 is another great prospect from Croatia. He's already 90, though, so I doubt he'll get an increase any time soon, especially if he don't move away from Croatian League, but he does seem like a good long term investment.

  13. Re: INFO on EX-Yugoslavia players

    With all due respect to you' date=' i would rather you set up an individual thread for Serbian players, a sperate 1 for croats, montenegren ect if you wish

    I doubt if anyone from Bosnia, croatia, Montenegro wants there players refered to ex yugoslavs B) just as much as i dont want Robbie Keane refered to as ex english,

    Most the players you have mentioned & that have been mentioned have never played for the old yugoslavia & soon some wont have even been born there.

    So if possible if a mod reads this could the thread be retitled as Serbian players.[/quote']

    To be honest, I couldn't care less what the name of this thread is, should or might be in the future:) and for that matter, you can change it to whatever you want. I mean, if that's gonna make somebody happy... whatever.

    I apologize if I have offended somebody, though (except for that guy, Svejk, who can't talk like a civilized human being, but have to use the F words). That was certainly not my intention. All I wanted is to talk about football. I just thought that this title would be more sophisticated then "INFO on Bosnia, Croatia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia and Slovenia players":)

    Harry69memic suggested name "Balkans", which is again perfectly fine with me, I mean, whatever, but I'm afraid that certain Croats would get that as an insult as well:).

    And for...

    I doubt if anyone from Bosnia, croatia, Montenegro wants there players refered to ex yugoslavs

    ... I'm from Bosnia and obviously, it doesn't bother me:)... and believe me, I saw some pretty nasty things during the war. Still, that doesn't make me hate somebody.

    But, enough about this. It's stupid. As I said, you're more than welcome to change the name of this thread to whatever you want. I'm cool with it.


    Thanks for being polite;)

  14. Re: Contracts

    Must have 2 or less yrs left to renew it.

    Is that some kind of a new rule (???) 'cause I can swear that I was able to renew contracts with all of my players before' date=' regardless of the length on their old contracts [i'](as long as it was less than max. 5 years, of course)[/i].

    I mean, it worked in the past.

    Anyway, if you're right, then why I can't renew contract with those who have 2 years left on their old contract, either?

    What is even weirder is that out of 8 players who have 2 years left on their old contract I can renew contract with 1 of them, but not with other 7???

    I mean, that doesn't make any sense:confused:

  15. I apologize if I'm posting this at the wrong place, but I have a problem to renew contracts with certain players from my squad.

    I mean, I have signed a new contracts with majority of my players without any problems whatsoever, but, for whatever reason, there is a couple of them that don't have that contract renewal option under "Player options" window :confused: I'm really confused. Is that some kind of bug or... I don't know... I really don't understand:(

    I would certainly appreciate if somebody can help me with this. I believe that couple of them will get an increase soon and it is really important for me to sign a new contract with them as soon as possible. Besides, I don't wanna loose those who are in the final year of the contract, either.


  16. Re: INFO on EX-Yugoslavia players

    Goran Pandev (F/W/24/90) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goran_Pandev has been outstanding for S.S. Lazio (Italy) so far this season. He got +1 increase in the last rating change, but there's no doubt that he'll get another increase by the end of the season.

    Aleksandar Kolarov (LB/21/86) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandar_Kolarov is often compared with Roberto Carlos due to his long-range strikes and similar free-kick abilities. He might be the next big thing.

  17. Re: INFO on EX-Yugoslavia players

    This is INFO on Serbia players not ****** ExYu

    I've opened this tread to talk about players from EX-Yugoslavia.

    Right now it's about Serbians (Jovetic and Burzanovic are from Montenegro, though, but whatever:rolleyes: ), but that doesn't mean that I'll not talk about other nations from former Yugoslavia later on.

    Please, keep your political opinions for yourself. This is sport forum. Let's keep it healthy.

  18. Re: INFO on EX-Yugoslavia players

    Miralem Sulejmani (LM/CM/18/75) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miralem_Sulejmani

    He is also product of Partizan Belgrade Youth system, but the club managment did a poor job and SC Heerenveen (Holland) signed him on free transfer last year. It seems that he's going to be regular first team for them, so he's ratings should go up soon enough.

    He was also Serbia captain in recent U19 Championship.

    Branislav Ivanovic (CB/RB/23/87) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branislav_Ivanovi%C4%87

    He's the second best Serbian defender (right behind Nemanja Vidic) right now. I think that he is the most underrated defender currently on SM. Seriously. Anyway, he's been linked with Juventus (Italy) and it's just a matter of time when he'll sign for them. It has been roumored that Chelsea FC (England) and Manchester UTD (England) are also keen to see him in their jerseys, though. I think that he should be rated at least 89/90.

    If Branislav Ivanovic is the Serbian most underrated player then Marko Pantelic (CF/28/90) is certainly the most overrated Serbian player.

    I'm quiet surprised that he didn't got any dicrease in the last rating change.

    He did scored in his last two games for Hertha BSC (Germany) this season, but, in my oppinion, he should be rated something like 88 (if not worse).

    Dusko Tosic (LB/CB/22/87) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Du%C5%A1ko_To%C5%A1i%C4%87

    is another great defender from Serbia. He signed for Werder Bremen (Germany) at the beginning of the season and he's already first team, so I believe that he deserves an increase as well. Maybe he's not as good as Vidic or Ivanovic just yet, but keep in mind that he is younger than them.

  19. Here's some info on players from Serbian Super League.

    The players that might deserve some increase this season are Milan Smiljanic (CM/20/84), Stevan Jovetic (F/17/83), Nenad Marinkovic (AM/F/18/81), Nebojsa Marinkovic (AM/21/85), Igor Burzanovic (AM/F/22/85), and maybe Marko Markovski (F/21/80) and Borko Veselinovic (F/21/80).

    O.K. ley's start from the beggining

    Milan Smiljanic (CM/20/84) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milan_Smiljani%C4%87 definitely deserve better ratings. He has been the most reliable and the most consistent player for Partizan Belgrade last season. He moved to RCD Espanyol (Spain) at the beggining of this season and he's already in their starting line-up. Also, he made his debut for Serbia National team last week and there's no doubt that he'll stay there.

    Stevan Jovetic (F/17/83) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevan_Joveti%C4%87 is a wunderkind. He did got his increase in the last rating change (+2), but I'm telling you, this kid is crazy. He cement his place in the starting line-up by scoring in every single game Partizan Belgrade played so far this season.

    Nenad Marinkovic (AM/F/18/81) will see more playing time this season as he has been loan out from Partizan Belgrade to Super League team Banat Zrenjanin. He was one of the best players on the field and scored a goal in the last Banat game. Great talent.

    Nebojsa Marinkovic (AM/21/85) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neboj%C...arinkovi%C4%87 is loaned out to Iraklis (Greece) and while it's to be seen how he'll addapt there, there is no doubt that he have more than enough quallity to hold first team place. It's not a secret that Bayern Munich is in a search for a playmaker and it's roumored that Nebojsa could end up there at the end of his loan.

    Like Jovetic, he got his increase in the last rating change (+2), but if he proves himself in Greece I believe that he should go up to 87/88.

    Igor Burzanovic (AM/F/22/85) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Burzanovi%C4%87

    I've been already talking about him in one of mine previous post. He also got his increase (+7), but he should get another increase by the end of season (if not sooner). I mean, if Ecuadorian midfielder Segundo Castillo got increase to 88 then he should be at least 87 'cause two of them are equally "responsable" for Red Star Belgrade success last season.

    Marko Markovski (F/21/80) actually got decrease (-1) in the last rating change and, to be honest, he probably deserved it as he didn't play much since his move to Partizan Belgrade, but he is a very talented young player. He's loaned out to Banat Zrenjanin and he'll be starter there. He scored in their last game and if he can manage to keep his form then he might deserve a small increase.

    Borko Veselinovic (F/21/80) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borko_Veselinovi%C4%87 was considered for a long time as one of Serbia most promising forwards. He was a Top Scorer at U19 Championship in 2005, but for whatever reason he never got real chance in Partizan Belgrade. He has been loaned out to several clubs in the last couple of seasons. He played as RM/F for Beira Mar (Portugal) last season. Anyhoo, he's back and it seems that new coach Djukic will give him more chance. Is this gonna be his breaktrough season it's to be seen, but he definitely have more potencial than just 80.

  20. Re: milos NINKOVIC


    i just found this player...

    he is from singapore...

    finally a singaporean is in the db...

    they should include more singaporeans in the db...

    some of the singaporean players really have talent...

    and i have never heard of this player even though i live in singapore...

    Player name: Milos NINKOVIC

    Age: 22yrs

    Born: 25 December 1984

    Nationality: Singaporean

    Position: Central Midfield

    Rating: 76

    tell me wat u think of him...

    Milos is actually a player from Serbia and he is under contract with Dynamo Kiev. I really don't know why he's been added as a Singaporean.

  21. Re: Promising players still affordable

    That's a cracking list.

    Rukavina is actually breaking into the Serbia full national squad. Depending on whether Corluka plays as RB or CB will determine how much of a chance he gets.

    Corluka plays for Croatia' date=' not Serbia, mate:) If I may guess, I'd say that you've mixed him with another Rukavina [i'](Hajduk Split/Croatia)[/i], but that kid is forward:)

    Anyhoo, Rukavina we're talking about seems like a good prospect, but the best right back in Serbia squad is Branislav Ivanovic (FC Lokomotiv Moscow/Russia).

    I'd say he's a better buy. Here's some INFO on him http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branislav_Ivanovi%C4%87

  22. Re: Montenegrin most promising players

    I must have mixed him up with someone else!

    He is one of his nation's best players' date=' so when Montenegro join World Cup qualifying next Autumn he is bound to be due a raise, as an important international.

    I also think/hope Montenegro will bring some surprises...many of my friends have no idea about the country, they think it's a football 'backwater', but don't realise the talented players that in the past would have been eligible to play for them.[/quote']

    Montenegro have a decent team. I mean, it's hard to believe that they will qualify for the World Cup, but I can see them making a couple of upsets. I would keep an eye on those players that I've mentioned earlier (Jovetic, Vucinic, Burzanovic) and I would also add another kid. His name is Simon Vukcevic (AMLC/21/85). He was superb for Partizan a season ago and then he went to Russia. He didn't play much there, but a couple of days ago he signed for Sporting (Portugal) and I really expect him to go up. I would say that he's the best midfielder Montenegro has right now.

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