Report Bundesliga Ratings Discussion in German Bundesliga Posted January 14, 2013 Re: Bundesliga Ratings 2012/2013 Normally browse the forum rather than post but thought I would add my tuppenceworth into the Dortmund rating debate. I am pretty suprised by the mock outrage being shown for the changes' date=' Gotze apart I dont see a change that really should suprise.I think it's important to remember these changes are not just for this season but take in the tail end of last season as well, and during that time Dortmund retained the title and dismantled Munich in the cup final. They have been patchy in the league this term granted but on the big stage (Champ League) have shown real class in a group with the Champions of England and Spain. Piszczek has been as good as any RB in Europe the last 2 seasons and had not received a rating increase since March 2012, 92 is fully justified. Lewa's goals to game since he last increased also justifies his plus 2, Reus had a cracking season last term and then took it into the Euro's and has continued that into this season, again I feel 92 is justified. [b']Personally I am pleased that the Bundesliga is being recognised as being a strong league, always felt it was grossly underrated in comparison to EPL and La Liga.[/b] Nice to see a cool head in here amongst everyone else going crazy. I agree especially with your final paragraph, which I've bolded. The Bundesliga has been massively underrated on SM up to now, but these ratings have well and truly reflected its status as the third-highest rated league in the world. Consider this also as a shift in the overall pitch of ratings. Someone on here made this argument when Pirlo got a +2 to become a 94 again - ratings in general are being more generous, partly because these players have gone a year without being rated, and partly because the gaps between the highest rated players and their teammates are being lessened. I will be interested to see how the Spanish and English changes go now. I've only been playing the game for 3 years but I can say that there used to be a lot more higher rated players when I started playing (Gerrard 97' date=' Kaka 97 Torres 96, Drogba 96, Eto'o 96, Rooney 96, Maicon 96, Terry 95, Lampard 95, to name a few. There certainly seemed a lot more 93+ players than in the past couple of years.[b'] It is possible SM is raising the average again.[/b] This is the answer.