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dont understand how poeple can say holland still have mathematical chance to qualify for next roundd???

same if they win over portugal. and denmark loose to germany' date='

they will have 3 pt and denmark 3 pt, but denmark have beat holland, so it will be denmark who will recevie the quarter final ticket??

can someone help me please[/quote']

It based on goal difference. If Holland beat Portugal 1-0 and Germany beat Denmark 2-0. Holland will go through. Of course taking the consideration Holland beat Portugal (head to head).

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There's an error Tim.

I predicted a 2-1 win in favor of Germany so that's 4 points right? (Correct result' date=' correct score) So it's 15 points instead of 14. Here's the post: [url']http://forum.soccermanager.com/showpost.php?p=2073588&postcount=73[/url]

Maybe you either get 1 point for correct result or 3 points if correct score. One or the other' date=' not both... That's the way I understood it anyway.[/quote']

Like BruceL33t correctly explained:

  • 1 point for the correct result
  • 3 points for the correct score

This means you get 3 points for your Germany - Netherlands prediction, and someone who predicted a 1-0 for Germany for example gets only 1 point. ;)

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Like BruceL33t correctly explained:

  • 1 point for the correct result
  • 3 points for the correct score

This means you get 3 points for your Germany - Netherlands prediction' date=' and someone who predicted a 1-0 for Germany for example gets only 1 point. ;)[/quote']

Makes sense :) thanks

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It based on goal difference. If Holland beat Portugal 1-0 and Germany beat Denmark 2-0. Holland will go through. Of course taking the consideration Holland beat Portugal (head to head).

So I think there is good chance. Germany shoud destroy denmark, theyre not sure to mve on if they loose. so they will not be on the relaxing mode. expect a bid win here. if portugal can win 3-2. german can win 2-0, 3-0.

just need an holland win here. if they wake, and ben marwijk finnaly play van persie and huntelaar together up front. it will not be that hard to get it.

dot understand why pople are considering them as finish

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It based on goal difference. If Holland beat Portugal 1-0 and Germany beat Denmark 2-0. Holland will go through. Of course taking the consideration Holland beat Portugal (head to head).

To add to the actual answer to the SM_Captain' date=' it is because Portugal won Denmark that the Netherlands still have the chance:

if Holland beats Portugal and Denmark loses to Germany, they all get 3 points, and the next criterion, the result of the match between, doesn't apply, because each on them has won one and lost to another (Portugal>Denmark>Holland>Portugal).

Let us quote the rules again:

criteria are applied to determine the rankings:

a) Higher number of points obtained in the matches played between the teams in

question;

B) Superior goal difference resulting from the matches played between the teams in

question (if more than two teams finish equal on points);

c) Higher number of goals scored in the matches played between the teams in question (if more than two teams finish equal on points);

d) If, after having applied criteria a) to c), two teams still have an equal ranking, criteria a) to c) are reapplied exclusively to the matches between the two teams in question to determine the final rankings of the two teams. If this procedure does not lead to a decision, criteria e) to i) apply in the order given;

e) superior goal difference in all group matches;

f) higher number of goals scored in all group matches;

g) position in the UEFA national team coefficient ranking system (see annex I, paragraph

1.2.2);

h) fair play conduct of the teams (final tournament);

i) drawing of lots

Thus it would go by the goal difference of these three clashes between these nations, which before Portugal-Holland match are:

Portugal 3-2 (match against Denmark)

Denmark 3-3 (2 matches)

Holland 0-1 (match against Denmark)

Out of these, Denmark's goal difference will remain unchanged in this respect after the last fixture (because it is against Germany). Now, follow carefully, because Vendetta's answer was actually wrong, and that is because of the different number of goals scored in the matches Denmark-Holland and Portugal-Denmark.

We suppose that Denmark loses to Germany and Netherlands beats Portugal. Now, in the case that the Netherlands beat Portugal by one goal, then they will inevitably end up with the same goal difference, i.e. +-0, with Portugal. In that case, what is compared is the amount of goals in the matches between (that is always matches, because there are three teams in even points to be compared to each other). Now, since Portugal scored three against Denmark and Holland 0, then Portugal will, in case of one goal victory of the Netherlands, always have more goals scored and go ahead of the Netherlands. Thus, the Netherlands need a two goal victory over Portugal to have chances to get through.

And that is only if Denmark loses to Germany. The score of the Germany match is less important. It will not be considered in any case, because there will be no situation in which two of these teams would end up in same points and they would have drawn their match between: notice, that if all teams have the same goal difference, then the Netherlands (cf. above) will always lose to Portugal in the number of goals scored. Two of them can end up with the same amount of goals in the matches between only in the case that Netherlands win exactly 1-0 (and Denmark still loses to Germany, to make this consideration relevant in any manner). Now, in that case, according to the criterion d) the match between Denmark and Portugal will be considered exclusively to decide the case, which would decide it for Portugal. So, in any scenario in which Holland wins Portugal by one goal and Denmark loses to Germany, Portugal will advance.

So, in Vendetta's example, in which Denmark would lose 0-2 and Holland would win 1-0, Portugal would advance.

For Holland to go through, it must win by 2 and Denmark must lose by any number of goals.

It also follows, that Denmark cannot advance with a loss against Germany, as surprising as it might sound. If they lose, there are 3 different relevant scenarios:

1. Portugal takes at least one point and advances with more points.

2. Holland wins by one, in which case Portugal will go through with the match between Portugal and Denmark (cf. above)

3. Holland will win by 2 or more, in which case Holland will go through with the best goal difference in the matches between.

Thus, For Denmark to go through it is required that either:

1. Denmark wins Germany, in which case they advance regardless of the result of the other match;

2. Denmark draws against Germany, and Holland wins Portugal.

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Of course, there is another scenario, in which we would have to consider Germany's goal difference: if both Portugal and Denmark win their matches.

In that case the score of the Portugal-Netherlands match would be irrelevant, but that of Denmark-Germany would be decisive:

1. If Denmark wins by 2 or more goals, it also wins the group, Portugal finishing the second, according to the goal difference in the matches between (Germany negative, Portugal even, Denmark positive).

2. If Denmark wins by one, it is certain to go through because of the high scoring Portugal-Denmark match.

2.1 In case that Denmark wins 1-0, Germany disqualifies by lesser number of goals scored in the matches between, and Portugal will win the group and Denmark will finish second due to the result of the match between Denmark and Portugal.

2.2 In case that Denmark wins 2-1, Germany again disqualifies due to lesser number of goals in the matches between, Denmark will win the group by the superior number of goals in the matches between, and Portugal will finish second.

2.3 In case that Denmark wins 3-2 or any more high scoring result, Denmark wins the group by the number of goals scored in the matches between, and Germany will finish second due to the result of the match between Germany and Portugal

So that it would not sound too bad for Germany, here are the conditions in which they go through:

1. If they take one or more points against Denmark, they will win the group.

2. If they lose by one while scoring at least 2 goals against Denmark, they will finish second.

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So' date=' [i']in any scenario in which Holland wins Portugal by one goal and Denmark loses to Germany, Portugal will advance[/i].

So, in Vendetta's example, in which Denmark would lose 0-2 and Holland would win 1-0, Portugal would advance.

For Holland to go through, it must win by 2 and Denmark must lose by any number of goals.

Originally Posted by UEFA Euro 2012 regulations

criteria are applied to determine the rankings:

a) Higher number of points obtained in the matches played between the teams in

question;

B) Superior goal difference resulting from the matches played between the teams in

question (if more than two teams finish equal on points);

c) Higher number of goals scored in the matches played between the teams in question (if more than two teams finish equal on points);

d) If, after having applied criteria a) to c), two teams still have an equal ranking, criteria a) to c) are reapplied exclusively to the matches between the two teams in question to determine the final rankings of the two teams. If this procedure does not lead to a decision, criteria e) to i) apply in the order given;

e) superior goal difference in all group matches;

f) higher number of goals scored in all group matches;

g) position in the UEFA national team coefficient ranking system (see annex I, paragraph

1.2.2);

h) fair play conduct of the teams (final tournament);

i) drawing of lots

Oh right. I thought the the (e) point comes before (B). Thus the confusing. So it all comes to Liverpool vs Olympiakos (again). :P

Come on you Oranje. We need 2 goals now.

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Croatia - Italy 1-1

Table after Match 13

1 . lee18 = 18

2 . sirmarkhughes = 14

2 . Fercasti = 14

4 . peppelax = 13

4 . kekko96 = 13

4 . RedBullArsenal = 13

4 . Gonzodan = 13

4 . ray1981 = 13

9 . BenNewman = 12

9 . Doonhamer = 12

9 . soccerloko = 12

9 . AVB = 12

9 . KVARATSKHELIA = 12

9 . Simo M = 12

15 . kenzo = 11

15 . furiaserba95 = 11

15 . Kensational = 11

15 . ᴩᴙᴇᴆᴀᴛᴏʀ = 11

15 . Starred = 11

20 . Soccer Games = 10

20 . SM_Captain = 10

20 . ZazzaAsRoma = 10

20 . drink = 10

20 . ryangal1982 = 10

20 . will-gee = 10

20 . MarioGomez = 10

20 . Gizb = 10

20 . Deagle = 10

29 . MUTD = 9

29 . Vinci Mazzotta = 9

29 . by_yuliansyah = 9

29 . Ben-SCFC = 9

29 . Jenks1 = 9

29 . drseanfitz = 9

29 . mrthehoople = 9

29 . QUÄLIX = 9

29 . Jonaldinho = 9

29 . Froz3n = 9

39 . Master = 8

39 . EdMoses = 8

39 . StephenMUFC = 8

39 . timesle = 8

39 . Stuart H = 8

39 . Angelo1 = 8

39 . dadde = 8

39 . lukelufc = 8

39 . swanseajack = 8

39 . AdaM EFC = 8

39 . Lensois = 8

50 . Andrew-MUFC = 7

50 . Il Ras Della Fossa = 7

50 . TheMar Afc = 7

50 . AFC Chewis = 7

50 . NariN = 7

50 . Scout Maker = 7

50 . BruceL33t = 7

50 . DaPoolRulz = 7

50 . Skillslim = 7

50 . Maxpayne = 7

50 . 123 ABC = 7

50 . amySFC = 7

62 . LBlack = 6

62 . BowesFC = 6

62 . .CFC = 6

62 . Rodrigo0 = 6

62 . rubberfra = 6

62 . emmanuele = 6

62 . AVFC = 6

62 . Phil (GT) = 6

62 . Andrew Seary = 6

71 . greenberet1990 = 5

71 . MCFC James = 5

71 . Villa = 5

71 . dariosav = 5

71 . Dudu 9 = 5

71 . Miguelito11 = 5

77 . Jack-THFC = 4

77 . Vendetta = 4

77 . david bax = 4

80 . Campbellblade = 3

80 . Harris 17 = 3

80 . humblescholes = 3

80 . Gozzy = 3

80 . Elohim = 3

80 . King Roo = 3

80 . Didi = 3

80 . Asianinvasian = 3

88 . Dragonnidh = 2

(Note: If there are any inaccuracies in this table with your score, please let me know)

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Spain beat Ireland 4-0, 8 people got the ESB correct.

Table after Match 14

1 . lee18 = 19

2 . kenzo = 16

3 . sirmarkhughes = 15

3 . drink = 15

3 . Fercasti = 15

6 . by_yuliansyah = 14

6 . peppelax = 14

6 . kekko96 = 14

6 . RedBullArsenal = 14

6 . Gonzodan = 14

6 . ray1981 = 14

12 . BenNewman = 13

12 . Doonhamer = 13

12 . soccerloko = 13

12 . AVB = 13

12 . KVARATSKHELIA = 13

12 . Simo M = 13

18 . furiaserba95 = 12

18 . 123 ABC = 12

18 . Kensational = 12

18 . ᴩᴙᴇᴆᴀᴛᴏʀ = 12

18 . Starred = 12

23 . Soccer Games = 11

23 . SM_Captain = 11

23 . ZazzaAsRoma = 11

23 . ryangal1982 = 11

23 . will-gee = 11

23 . MarioGomez = 11

23 . Gizb = 11

23 . Andrew Seary = 11

23 . Deagle = 11

32 . MUTD = 10

32 . Villa = 10

32 . Ben-SCFC = 10

32 . Jenks1 = 10

32 . drseanfitz = 10

32 . mrthehoople = 10

32 . QUÄLIX = 10

32 . Jonaldinho = 10

32 . Froz3n = 10

41 . Master = 9

41 . Vinci Mazzotta = 9

41 . StephenMUFC = 9

41 . timesle = 9

41 . Stuart H = 9

41 . Angelo1 = 9

41 . dadde = 9

41 . lukelufc = 9

41 . swanseajack = 9

41 . AdaM EFC = 9

41 . Lensois = 9

52 . Andrew-MUFC = 8

52 . Il Ras Della Fossa = 8

52 . EdMoses = 8

52 . TheMar Afc = 8

52 . AFC Chewis = 8

52 . NariN = 8

52 . Harris 17 = 8

52 . Scout Maker = 8

52 . DaPoolRulz = 8

52 . humblescholes = 8

52 . Skillslim = 8

52 . Maxpayne = 8

52 . amySFC = 8

65 . LBlack = 7

65 . BowesFC = 7

65 . .CFC = 7

65 . Rodrigo0 = 7

65 . BruceL33t = 7

65 . rubberfra = 7

65 . emmanuele = 7

65 . Phil (GT) = 7

73 . greenberet1990 = 6

73 . MCFC James = 6

73 . AVFC = 6

73 . dariosav = 6

73 . Dudu 9 = 6

73 . Miguelito11 = 6

79 . Jack-THFC = 5

79 . Vendetta = 5

79 . david bax = 5

82 . Campbellblade = 4

82 . Gozzy = 4

82 . Elohim = 4

82 . King Roo = 4

82 . Didi = 4

82 . Asianinvasian = 4

88 . Dragonnidh = 3

(Note: If there are any inaccuracies in this table with your score, please let me know)

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It based on goal difference. If Holland beat Portugal 1-0 and Germany beat Denmark 2-0. Holland will go through. Of course taking the consideration Holland beat Portugal (head to head).

this is not true.... We(Holland), will get knocked out in case we win 1-0.... we have to win by 2 clear goals.....

if three teams are tied on points then only the goal difference of the matches played between those teams will be considered.... so atm the Goal differences are Denmark(3-3 = 0), Portugal (3-2 = +1) and Netherlands (0 - 1 = -1)....

if we win 1-0, then the goal differences will be Denmark(3-3 = 0), Portugal(3-3 = 0) and Holland(1-1=0).... thus knocking us out on GOALS SCORED...!!!!!! here portugal will go through as they have beaten Denmark....

on the other hand if we win 2-0, then then the goal differences will be Denmark(3-3 = 0), Portugal(3-4 = -1) and Holland(2-1= +1).... thus allowing us to qualify.....!!!! CMON ORANJEEEEEE

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this is not true.... We(Holland)' date=' will get knocked out in case we win 1-0.... we have to win by 2 clear goals.....

if three teams are tied on points then only the goal difference of the matches played between those teams will be considered.... so atm the Goal differences are Denmark(3-3 = 0), Portugal (3-2 = +1) and Netherlands (0 - 1 = -1)....

if we win 1-0, then the goal differences will be Denmark(3-3 = 0), Portugal(3-3 = 0) and Holland(1-1=0).... thus knocking us out on GOALS SCORED...!!!!!! here portugal will go through as they have beaten Denmark....

on the other hand if we win 2-0, then then the goal differences will be Denmark(3-3 = 0), Portugal(3-4 = -1) and Holland(2-1= +1).... thus allowing us to qualify.....!!!! CMON ORANJEEEEEE[/quote']

Was already explained just above, but yeah, you got it right.

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Finally, my predictions have gone good for me lately :D Will be first time I've got the predictions correct for two matches if England win 1-0 which I think is a good prediction. They seem to like scoring one and defending.

In 10th position :) Not bad at all.

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Ukraine lost against France 0-2 and lee18 slowly pulls clear with 22 points and 5 point lead.

Table after Match 15

1 . lee18 = 22

2 . kenzo = 17

2 . peppelax = 17

4 . sirmarkhughes = 16

4 . BenNewman = 16

4 . Doonhamer = 16

4 . drink = 16

4 . AVB = 16

4 . Fercasti = 16

10 . by_yuliansyah = 15

10 . 123 ABC = 15

10 . kekko96 = 15

10 . ᴩᴙᴇᴆᴀᴛᴏʀ = 15

10 . Gonzodan = 15

15 . soccerloko = 14

15 . will-gee = 14

15 . KVARATSKHELIA = 14

15 . RedBullArsenal = 14

15 . Simo M = 14

15 . Deagle = 14

15 . ray1981 = 14

22 . Villa = 13

22 . furiaserba95 = 13

22 . Ben-SCFC = 13

22 . Kensational = 13

22 . Jenks1 = 13

22 . mrthehoople = 13

22 . Jonaldinho = 13

29 . ZazzaAsRoma = 12

29 . ryangal1982 = 12

29 . MarioGomez = 12

29 . Gizb = 12

29 . Starred = 12

34 . MUTD = 11

34 . Il Ras Della Fossa = 11

34 . Soccer Games = 11

34 . SM_Captain = 11

34 . Harris 17 = 11

34 . humblescholes = 11

34 . Skillslim = 11

34 . Maxpayne = 11

34 . QUÄLIX = 11

34 . Andrew Seary = 11

34 . Froz3n = 11

45 . Master = 10

45 . Rodrigo0 = 10

45 . Vinci Mazzotta = 10

45 . StephenMUFC = 10

45 . Stuart H = 10

45 . Angelo1 = 10

45 . dadde = 10

45 . lukelufc = 10

45 . swanseajack = 10

45 . drseanfitz = 10

45 . AdaM EFC = 10

45 . Lensois = 10

57 . Andrew-MUFC = 9

57 . TheMar Afc = 9

57 . NariN = 9

57 . Scout Maker = 9

57 . DaPoolRulz = 9

57 . timesle = 9

57 . dariosav = 9

57 . amySFC = 9

65 . LBlack = 8

65 . BowesFC = 8

65 . .CFC = 8

65 . EdMoses = 8

65 . AFC Chewis = 8

65 . BruceL33t = 8

65 . rubberfra = 8

65 . emmanuele = 8

65 . Phil (GT) = 8

74 . greenberet1990 = 7

74 . MCFC James = 7

74 . AVFC = 7

77 . Jack-THFC = 6

77 . Vendetta = 6

77 . Dudu 9 = 6

77 . Miguelito11 = 6

81 . Gozzy = 5

81 . Elohim = 5

81 . King Roo = 5

81 . Didi = 5

81 . Asianinvasian = 5

81 . david bax = 5

87 . Campbellblade = 4

88 . Dragonnidh = 3

(Note: If there are any inaccuracies in this table with your score, please let me know)

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Table after Match 16

1 . lee18 = 23

2 . kenzo = 18

2 . peppelax = 18

4 . BenNewman = 17

4 . Doonhamer = 17

4 . drink = 17

4 . AVB = 17

4 . Fercasti = 17

9 . sirmarkhughes = 16

9 . 123 ABC = 16

9 . kekko96 = 16

9 . ᴩᴙᴇᴆᴀᴛᴏʀ = 16

9 . Gonzodan = 16

14 . soccerloko = 15

14 . by_yuliansyah = 15

14 . will-gee = 15

14 . Simo M = 15

14 . Deagle = 15

14 . ray1981 = 15

20 . Villa = 14

20 . furiaserba95 = 14

20 . Ben-SCFC = 14

20 . Jenks1 = 14

20 . KVARATSKHELIA = 14

20 . RedBullArsenal = 14

20 . Jonaldinho = 14

27 . ZazzaAsRoma = 13

27 . Kensational = 13

27 . ryangal1982 = 13

27 . mrthehoople = 13

27 . Gizb = 13

32 . MUTD = 12

32 . Il Ras Della Fossa = 12

32 . SM_Captain = 12

32 . humblescholes = 12

32 . Skillslim = 12

32 . Maxpayne = 12

32 . dariosav = 12

32 . QUÄLIX = 12

32 . MarioGomez = 12

32 . Andrew Seary = 12

32 . Starred = 12

32 . Froz3n = 12

44 . Master = 11

44 . Rodrigo0 = 11

44 . Vinci Mazzotta = 11

44 . EdMoses = 11

44 . Soccer Games = 11

44 . Harris 17 = 11

44 . StephenMUFC = 11

44 . Stuart H = 11

44 . Angelo1 = 11

44 . dadde = 11

44 . swanseajack = 11

44 . drseanfitz = 11

44 . AdaM EFC = 11

57 . Andrew-MUFC = 10

57 . TheMar Afc = 10

57 . NariN = 10

57 . DaPoolRulz = 10

57 . lukelufc = 10

57 . amySFC = 10

57 . Lensois = 10

64 . BowesFC = 9

64 . .CFC = 9

64 . AFC Chewis = 9

64 . Scout Maker = 9

64 . BruceL33t = 9

64 . timesle = 9

70 . LBlack = 8

70 . greenberet1990 = 8

70 . rubberfra = 8

70 . emmanuele = 8

70 . Phil (GT) = 8

75 . MCFC James = 7

75 . AVFC = 7

75 . Jack-THFC = 7

75 . Miguelito11 = 7

79 . Elohim = 6

79 . Asianinvasian = 6

79 . Vendetta = 6

79 . david bax = 6

79 . Dudu 9 = 6

84 . Gozzy = 5

84 . King Roo = 5

84 . Didi = 5

87 . Campbellblade = 4

88 . Dragonnidh = 3

(Note: If there are any inaccuracies in this table with your score, please let me know)

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Not many changes tonight with over 90% of predictions completely incorrect!

Table after Match 18

1 . lee18 = 23

2 . BenNewman = 20

3 . kenzo = 18

3 . peppelax = 18

5 . Doonhamer = 17

5 . drink = 17

5 . AVB = 17

5 . Fercasti = 17

9 . sirmarkhughes = 16

9 . 123 ABC = 16

9 . kekko96 = 16

9 . ᴩᴙᴇᴆᴀᴛᴏʀ = 16

9 . Gonzodan = 16

14 . soccerloko = 15

14 . by_yuliansyah = 15

14 . Ben-SCFC = 15

14 . will-gee = 15

14 . Simo M = 15

14 . Deagle = 15

14 . ray1981 = 15

21 . Villa = 14

21 . furiaserba95 = 14

21 . Angelo1 = 14

21 . Jenks1 = 14

21 . KVARATSKHELIA = 14

21 . RedBullArsenal = 14

21 . Jonaldinho = 14

28 . Skillslim = 13

28 . ZazzaAsRoma = 13

28 . Kensational = 13

28 . ryangal1982 = 13

28 . amySFC = 13

28 . mrthehoople = 13

28 . Gizb = 13

28 . Lensois = 13

36 . MUTD = 12

36 . Master = 12

36 . Il Ras Della Fossa = 12

36 . EdMoses = 12

36 . Soccer Games = 12

36 . SM_Captain = 12

36 . humblescholes = 12

36 . Maxpayne = 12

36 . dariosav = 12

36 . drseanfitz = 12

36 . QUÄLIX = 12

36 . MarioGomez = 12

36 . Andrew Seary = 12

36 . Starred = 12

36 . Froz3n = 12

51 . Rodrigo0 = 11

51 . Vinci Mazzotta = 11

51 . NariN = 11

51 . Harris 17 = 11

51 . StephenMUFC = 11

51 . DaPoolRulz = 11

51 . Stuart H = 11

51 . dadde = 11

51 . emmanuele = 11

51 . swanseajack = 11

51 . AdaM EFC = 11

62 . Andrew-MUFC = 10

62 . TheMar Afc = 10

62 . lukelufc = 10

65 . BowesFC = 9

65 . .CFC = 9

65 . greenberet1990 = 9

65 . AFC Chewis = 9

65 . Scout Maker = 9

65 . BruceL33t = 9

65 . timesle = 9

72 . LBlack = 8

72 . rubberfra = 8

72 . Phil (GT) = 8

75 . MCFC James = 7

75 . Elohim = 7

75 . AVFC = 7

75 . Jack-THFC = 7

75 . Miguelito11 = 7

80 . Gozzy = 6

80 . Asianinvasian = 6

80 . Vendetta = 6

80 . david bax = 6

80 . Dudu 9 = 6

85 . King Roo = 5

85 . Didi = 5

87 . Dragonnidh = 4

87 . Campbellblade = 4

(Note: If there are any inaccuracies in this table with your score, please let Timo or me know)

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