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Ospina - 89

Bellerin - 85

Koscielny - 92

Monreal - 90

Cazorla - possible 93

Sanchez - 94

That should be it really.

Probably missed the most obvious one because of how obvious it is.... Coquelin 86-88 and 90 next season if he continues the way he's playing. Reminds me so much of Makelele this season (don't usually like to use hyperbole but it's been warranted this season)

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Any takers in regards of Yaya's rating; possible -1 ?

Re. Yaya, I would agree, certainly warranted. In reality a 60%ish chance of happening I'd say to be conservative.

Re, Manquillo, impossible to answer, struggled in a struggling team. If he doesn't make a bigger impact in the second year of his loan he may end up back in Atletico which might be a good thing going back their developed more with such an experience. Atletico's RBs are aging as good as Juanfran is in particular so who knows what opportunities may be around the corner back in Spain. Liverpool may sign him regardless however as I doubt they'll have many options in the market if next season is just bad and I'm not convinced that will be good for him. If they get someone like Clynne expect him to return to Spain also Id say.

I would monitor how his second season in England goes. If it looks like materialising into a permanent move ironically that may prove bad overall for his career. I'd personally be more interested in him if I hear he's heading back to Spain then I might take a punt on him.

88/89 won't be too difficult in 2/3 years (being conservative) it's always that next step which proves hardest and we won't know more until we're closer to that time.

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Probably missed the most obvious one because of how obvious it is.... Coquelin 86-88 and 90 next season if he continues the way he's playing. Reminds me so much of Makelele this season (don't usually like to use hyperbole but it's been warranted this season)

Very true. Although I wouldn't be surprised if Coquelin got a 89 for that matter. Cleverley got that +3 too not that long ago, and also under similar circumstances.

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Very true. Although I wouldn't be surprised if Coquelin got a 89 for that matter. Cleverley got that +3 too not that long ago' date=' and also under similar circumstances.[/quote']

Wouldn't argue with it and more deserving than Cleverley was as well although SM seem quite conservative in their approach these days and it's definitely prudent to be that way when making predictions also. 89 would be the right decision though.

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Any takers in regards of Yaya's rating; possible -1 ?

Maybe. Probably will keep it by the skin of his teeth' date=' but no complaints for a drop from me. He is still a beast.

What about Arsenal squad? Who will rise?

Bellerin 82 -> 86

Le Coq 86 -> 88

Koscielny 91 -> 92 50%

Monreal 89 -> 90 (Gibbs 90 -> 89)

Giroud 91 -> 92 50%

Snachez 93 -> 94 60%

Cazorla 92 -> 93 i have seen a few people tentatively ask and i dont think he will get it but not completely out of eqaution say 30% chance for me.

Ospina 88 -> 89

What do people think Drogba will drop too ? I have a chance to buy him in a very competitive game world. He obviously going to drop' date=' my guess is -2 but if I can get a run out of him at 91 it might just get me promoted this season.... Also any ideas when the EPL rating changes are going to happen. Are SM still sticking roughly to the old sequence of doing the big leagues ?

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a -2 is a real possibility. I think its too harsh he did help out somewhat in a great Chelsea season. he is 37 and leaving again so -2 might be preemptive of the almost inevitable downwards ratings trajectory, but i think on merit only a -1 is deserved,

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it is beyond me how you reckon Kosc only has a 50% to rise. He has been worthy of 92 last couple of changes now' date=' can't believe he hasnt gotten it to be honest[/quote']

Thats why he is only 50%. I would give it!!!!! But he was better last season IMO he and Per were slightly better than this season and they both missed out. I hope the cumulative effect works in his favour. Like Aguero

Wanyama to 90?

Nah Southampon faded away too badly. 89 is good.

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Re. Yaya' date=' I would agree, certainly warranted. In reality a 60%ish chance of happening I'd say to be conservative.[/quote']
Maybe. Probably will keep it by the skin of his teeth' date=' but no complaints for a drop from me. He is still a beast.[/quote']
Id say expect it' date=' but dont be surprised if it doesnt happen, he improved in the 2nd half of the season and was still vital to City, just look at their record without him.[/quote']

Thank you.

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Been second choice almost all season. I have not missed a single minute of Arsenal football this season he has been awful when he has barely played. how do you deduce an inarguable no way?

22 Prem appearances with 18 starts, 7 CL games with 6 starts, 3 FA cup starts which Arsenal won and a couple of England caps. Enough to maintain a 90, takes time to earn a 90 you can't take it away that easy IMO

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22 Prem appearances with 18 starts' date=' 7 CL games with 6 starts, 3 FA cup starts which Arsenal won and a couple of England caps. Enough to maintain a 90, takes time to earn a 90 you can't take it away that easy IMO[/quote']

Thanks for replying. The problem is how do you justify 2 90s at the one Posititon that they really only both play. Its one or the other unlike midfield rotation. Arsenal havent went deep in the CL for 5-6 years and Fa cups are awesome (COYG) but no top 2 finishes either. I dont think we are competiting high enough on enough fronts to have 2 specialised one position players both at 90. Hope i am wrong, but i reckon if Monners goes up Gibbs might have to come down.

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Thats why he is only 50%. I would give it!!!!! But he was better last season IMO he and Per were slightly better than this season and they both missed out. I hope the cumulative effect works in his favour. Like Aguero

Nah Southampon faded away too badly. 89 is good.

Thanks for the reply. I think he is on the same level as schneiderlin so doesnt deserve to be rated -2 from his rating.

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Thanks for replying. The problem is how do you justify 2 90s at the one Posititon that they really only both play. Its one or the other unlike midfield rotation. Arsenal havent went deep in the CL for 5-6 years and Fa cups are awesome (COYG) but no top 2 finishes either. I dont think we are competiting high enough on enough fronts to have 2 specialised one position players both at 90. Hope i am wrong' date=' but i reckon if Monners goes up Gibbs might have to come down.[/quote']

Just to add my two pennies worth....

I think Cam is right tbh. It's 50/50 for Gibbs. I was selling him in most teams about a month ago just in case (I had better options at LB which made it a much easier choice for me than it could be for others in fairness) Gibbs' one saving grace could be his age, SM do seem more reluctant to drop younger players but of course it does still happen. Gibbs earnt his 90, 17 months ago so it's not like he's just been given it then it's being taken away so that argument I'm afraid I don't give much credence to. Neither a stay or a drop would surprise me so all anyone can say is be prepared for either!

Likewise I would put Koscielny at 50-60% chance to rise. Looking at some changes already and past history I can understand why people aren't totally optimistic as I'm not either. I would agree he deserves it on the accumulative approach (something SM clearly takes into consideration sometimes looking at other rating changes in the past) I would argue I'm not sure he is as good as Terry and Ivanovic who are also 92 though, their season was also much better not that I believe comparisons really help.... I'm even more on the fence on this one as 92 is a top rating and not easy to get to. It really depends on how SM looks at it, i.e. this season primarily (in which case no) or the bigger picture of the past few seasons (in which case yes)

For the record conservative predictions is always sensible to avoid disappointment which is always worst when the negative occurs rather than the positive.

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Gibbs or Felipe Luis?

Both could be in danger of dropping although I believe Felipe Luis may be most in danger, marginally (Gibbs 50% chance like I said before, Luis 60-70% chance) I hear Monreal might be leaving however and I can see Gibbs continuing to feature more than Luis if he stays in England anyway. So regardless of changes I'd personally go for Gibbs due to this and his younger years. Although I wouldn't opt for either atm tbh.

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Just to add my two pennies worth....

I think Cam is right tbh. It's 50/50 for Gibbs. I was selling him in most teams about a month ago just in case (I had better options at LB which made it a much easier choice for me than it could be for others in fairness) Gibbs' one saving grace could be his age' date=' SM do seem more reluctant to drop younger players but of course it does still happen. Gibbs earnt his 90, 17 months ago so it's not like he's just been given it then it's being taken away so that argument I'm afraid I don't give much credence to. Neither a stay or a drop would surprise me so all anyone can say is be prepared for either!

Likewise I would put Koscielny at 50-60% chance to rise. Looking at some changes already and past history I can understand why people aren't totally optimistic as I'm not either. I would agree he deserves it on the accumulative approach (something SM clearly takes into consideration sometimes looking at other rating changes in the past) I would argue I'm not sure he is as good as Terry and Ivanovic who are also 92 though, their season was also much better not that I believe comparisons really help.... I'm even more on the fence on this one as 92 is a top rating and not easy to get to. It really depends on how SM looks at it, i.e. this season primarily (in which case no) or the bigger picture of the past few seasons (in which case yes)

For the record conservative predictions is always sensible to avoid disappointment which is always worst when the negative occurs rather than the positive.[/quote']

Great post mate and i agree with everything even the conservative leaning which i always do. would rep if i knew how.

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Are we expecting rises for Aguero' date=' Mikel & Hazard?[/quote']

Not expecting rises for any but hoping Aguero gets a +1 despite City's failures :D

Hi guys' date=' there is any chance to Fabregas for +1? Matic +1 o +2? And Sanchez +1?

Thanks![/quote']

No chance for Fabregas, I'd say Matic and Sanchez will be getting +1s. A +2 is possible for Matic but unlikey because he's not scoring a goal every week :(

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