Hoggzeh 31 Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 The only way I see them rising Milner is if they win the EL. Without it they only have poor league position and a league cup final with city to look back on. But if they do win it, I think Milner(90), Lovren(89), Coutinho(91) and Clyne(90) will all get +1. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riky87 380 Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Is Darmian worth keeping? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kylepearson 129 Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Is Darmian worth keeping? Not sure how his rating will go but all the time he's a 90 he's certainly worth keeping because he can play anywhere across the back 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tupac_healy 1,696 Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Not sure how his rating will go but all the time he's a 90 he's certainly worth keeping because he can play anywhere across the back 4 Further to that, he's an Italian international Fullback..... says a lot! Also, with any luck the (hopefully) new Utd manager will favour him and use him properly.... himself and Shaw raiding down the wings next season, fingers crossed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kylepearson 129 Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 He certainly doesn't defend like an Italian international that's for sure! When he started early on in the season I thought he looked a decent little player and gradually he's got worse but it's only his first season and he's relativity young so we shall see next season! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ste G 1,846 Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Further to that, he's an Italian international Fullback..... says a lot! The Italian team is AWFUL and the worst it's been for as long as I can remember, isn't something to be proud to be a part of. Couldn't really tell if you were being sarcastic with that comment and that's what you were getting at, hard to tell through text! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cvilhete 642 Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 what type of rises can we expect to see at tottenham i'd expect kane,lloris,eriksen,alli,alderweireld,dembele,rose,dier to all definitely rise and player like walker,lamela,vertonghen are less likely. any thoughts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cam Lucas 10,125 Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 Guaranteed (as much as one can be with SM)  Kane +2 Alderweireld +1 Alli +3/2 Dembele +1 Rose +1/2 Dier +1/2 Eriksen +1  Maybes  Lloris +1 Lamela +1  Less Likely Walker +1 Vertonghen +1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Rahul 7,356 Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 Relegation Rating Predictions: Â Villa: Guzan -1 to 86 Lescott -1/-2 to 86/85 Richardson -1 to 84 Richards -1 to 87 Hutton -1 to 84 Lyden +2 to 75 Sanchez -2 to 86 Sinclair -1 to 86 Agbonlahor -2 to 85 N'Zogbia -2 to 83 Kozak -1 to 85 Toner +3 to 73 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tupac_healy 1,696 Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 He certainly doesn't defend like an Italian international that's for sure! When he started early on in the season I thought he looked a decent little player and gradually he's got worse but it's only his first season and he's relativity young so we shall see next season! He's not the only player to suffer under LVG... he's a much better player than he's shown at Utd  The Italian team is AWFUL and the worst it's been for as long as I can remember, isn't something to be proud to be a part of. Couldn't really tell if you were being sarcastic with that comment and that's what you were getting at, hard to tell through text! The same Italian team that's qualified for the Euros? To be fair there are a lot of older players in that squad and new blood will need to be introduced, not that that's an excuse but it does appear to be a time of rebuilding for the Italians... I want being smart, in the traditional since Italian international fullbacks are generally considered amongst the best in the world.... it's well known that Italian teams love to defend, they may not be as good at the art as they once we're but I'd still have Darmian in my team... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Rahul 7,356 Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 An example of how SM/SW rise players too soon comes in the form of Memphis Depay. Got a +1 in July 15 for basically getting a move to Utd, but he's hardly on that level. Fair case to drop him back to 89 given his performances this season, but he probably won't given his age. Hope he can change his jersey number from 7 next season and get back his confidence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Rahul 7,356 Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 Newcastle: Riviere -1 to 85 Doumbia -1 to 89 (?) Krul -1 to 88 Darlow +2 to 85 Gouffran -1 to 85 Taylor -1 to 85 Lascelles +3 to 86 Cisse -1 to 87 Tiote -1 to 87 Elliot +3 to 86 Janmaat -1 to 88 Â Too harsh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kylepearson 129 Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 Agree with the rises you have in there but I think the decreases might not be harsh enough, if they get relegated the majority need -2 Cam Lucas 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Rahul 7,356 Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 Agree with the rises you have in there but I think the decreases might not be harsh enough, if they get relegated the majority need -2  For Newcastle and Villa? I agree, but depends on who. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cam Lucas 10,125 Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 Agree soem not harsh enough msot championship max ratings are around 85. Now i like to see 2 stages as alot might move away so drop 1 has to be for the awful season, drop 2 comes early next season (assuming relegation) down to 85/86 maximums. Sir Rahul 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cheeseballRAT 18 Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 Is matt miazga even worth keeping will he get a rise from his mls performances ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kylepearson 129 Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 If Newcastle get relegated how much is Andros Townsend going to drop? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kylepearson 129 Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 Leko +6? That will only take him to 78. Playing in west brom first team and just turned 17 that's impressive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kylepearson 129 Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 Schweinsteiger -1 or -2? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Rahul 7,356 Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 Is matt miazga even worth keeping will he get a rise from his mls performances ? I don't think so, maybe +2 to 82 but that's unlikely imo. But he's American and hyped so he could get it. He's already gotten a +3 in Jan 16 for his MLS performances.  If Newcastle get relegated how much is Andros Townsend going to drop? He won't, he's been arguably the best of that side from what I've heard and watched. I've also read he has a relegation clause so he'll leave Newcastle in the summer if and when they get relegated.  Leko +6? That will only take him to 78. Playing in west brom first team and just turned 17 that's impressive. Could get it, I would cap him at 76 given he's at West Brom and has hardly had any appearances so far.  Schweinsteiger -1 or -2?  -1 I'm sure, -2 50/50. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Rahul 7,356 Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 Soton: Davis -2 to 80 Targett +2 to 84 Martina +2 to 85 van Dijk +1 to 89Â Bertrand +1 to 89 Long +1 to 88 Romeu +1 to 87 Â Â West Ham: Payet +1 to 91 Song -1 to 89 Noble +1 to 89 Kouyate +1 to 89 Adrian +1 to 88 Antonio +3 to 87 Lanzini +1 to 87/+2 to 88 Randolph +2 to 84 Â Â Everton: Baines -1 to 90 Lukaku +1 to 91 Mirallas -1 to 89 Funes Mori +1 to 88 Robles +2 to 87 Osman -1 to 86 Pienaar -2 to 85 Pennington +2 to 78 Â Â Stoke: Given -2 to 82 Haugaard +2 to 84 Muniesa +1 to 86 Butland +2 to 89 Arnautovic +1 to 89 Â Swansea: Barrow +3 to 85 Cork +1 to 88 Â Â Watford: Gomes +2 to 87 Suarez -1 to 89 Denny +1 to 88/+2 to 89 Ighalo +2 to 89/+1 to 88 Watson +1 to 87 Cathcart +1 to 86 Ake +3 to 85 Anya +1 to 86 Â Â Palace: Cabaye -1 to 90 Dann +1 to 88 Delaney +1 to 86 Speroni -1 to 84 Chamakh -1 to 85 Wickham +1 to 87 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Majstor44 11 Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 Soton: Davis -2 to 80 Targett +2 to 84 Martina +2 to 85 van Dijk +1 to 89 Bertrand +1 to 89 Long +1 to 88 Romeu +1 to 87 Â Â West Ham: Payet +1 to 91 Song -1 to 89 Noble +1 to 89 Kouyate +1 to 89 Adrian +1 to 88 Antonio +3 to 87 Lanzini +1 to 87 Randolph +2 to 84 Â Â Everton: Baines -1 to 90 Lukaku +1 to 91 Mirallas -1 to 89 Funes Mori +1 to 88 Robles +2 to 87 Osman -1 to 86 Pienaar -2 to 85 Pennington +2 to 78 Â Â Stoke: Given -2 to 82 Haugaard +2 to 84 Muniesa +1 to 86 Butland +2 to 89 Arnautovic +1 to 89 Afellay -1 to 88 Â Â Swansea: Barrow +3 to 85 Cork +1 to 88 Â Â Watford: Gomes +2 to 87 Suarez -1 to 89 Deeney +2 to 89 Inhale +2 to 89 Watson +1 to 87 Cathcart +1 to 86 Ake +3 to 85 Anya +1 to 86 Â Â Palace: Cabaye -1 to 90 Dann +1 to 88 Delaney +1 to 86 Speroni -1 to 84 Chamakh -1 to 85 Wickham +1 to 87 What do u think of Dier and Barkley, rise or not? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Rahul 7,356 Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 What do u think of Dier and Barkley, rise or not? Â Dier, yes, to 89, Barkley will stay though for now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hoggzeh 31 Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 Affellay was going to be Stoke's player of the season until he got injured. No way he is going to get a -1 have you even watched them play?  And there is no way Deeney and Ighalo get +2 to 89. They've both been misfiring since December so even a +1 is being cast in to doubt, although I think they will get it.  Most other things I agree with, think Van Dijk could be in with a shout with +2 but it's unlikely. Same with Lanzini, think he should get a +2 as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Rahul 7,356 Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 Affellay was going to be Stoke's player of the season until he got injured. No way he is going to get a -1 have you even watched them play?  And there is no way Deeney and Ighalo get +2 to 89. They've both been misfiring since December so even a +1 is being cast in to doubt, although I think they will get it.  Most other things I agree with, think Van Dijk could be in with a shout with +2 but it's unlikely. Same with Lanzini, think he should get a +2 as well.  Haven't watched them play, he'll could get the -1 in the winter then.  They'll get +1s for sure, Ighalo more likely to get 89.  Van Dijk highly unlikely to get 90 with one season of football for a EL contender. Lanzini decent chance of a +2 too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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