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You basically hype the hell out of Shawcross then say he isn't good enough for the England Team? I think Shawcross is an alright player sure he did no favours to Arsenal. Just not as good as you think he is. Does everyone think Shawcross is hated by every Arsenal Fan? Takes points off the likes of the Spuds too you know!

I see him joining Liverpool in the Summer anyway.

Do you run a Drugs Den or something because you just don't make sense?

I'm not a comrade, not from Russia and my name isn't Nico Belic :rolleyes:

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You basically hype the hell out of Shawcross then say he isn't good enough for the England Team? I think Shawcross is an alright player sure he did no favours to Arsenal. Just not as good as you think he is. Does everyone think Shawcross is hated by every Arsenal Fan? Takes points off the likes of the Spuds too you know!

I see him joining Liverpool in the Summer anyway.

Do you run a Drugs Den or something because you just don't make sense?

I'm not a comrade' date=' not from Russia and my name isn't Nico Belic :rolleyes:[/quote']

Comrade, If i was the England manager, make no mistake this would be my team with Shawcross captain and leader!!

Joe Hart

Richards Shawcross© Jones Baines

Lennon Gerrard Lampard Walcott

Hooper Rooney

They are Englands best players without a doubt!! I could easily win the world cup in 2014 as England manager also.

But this team will never get picked, because Hodgson is a yes man to the FA, whom pick players based on the team name they play for, rather than assessing their individual skills and talent.

England and their NT are light years behind Deutschland, Espania, Francais, Poland and even Belgium!!

Shawcross is one of the best CB's on planet earth, and i 100% agree with you, Liverpool would be blind as bats not to sign him and possibly Kurt Zouma or Benedicto Howedes!!

mmmmm, Drugs dennnn (gurgles in the smell of beautiful taste in Dreamland) (cloud of bubbles in mind appear mmmmm) :D:D:D

Comrade, Russ is a great country and Nico Belic is a fine name that you have. :)

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You basically hype the hell out of Shawcross then say he isn't good enough for the England Team? I think Shawcross is an alright player sure he did no favours to Arsenal. Just not as good as you think he is. Does everyone think Shawcross is hated by every Arsenal Fan? Takes points off the likes of the Spuds too you know!

I see him joining Liverpool in the Summer anyway.

Do you run a Drugs Den or something because you just don't make sense?

I'm not a comrade' date=' not from Russia and my name isn't Nico Belic :rolleyes:[/quote']

Hahhaha, I may have got a bit carried away with the laughter, but if this happens I will hand deliver you a tin of quality street, we would ask for too much for them to splash out on him for one, two, he just signed a new contract, three, he doesn't want to leave, four, he is our captain, and five, he used to play for United.

Sorry, this comment did really annoy me as a Stoke fan, some people don't know some things unless they support the team I guess, but this just won't happen:o

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Hahhaha' date=' I may have got a bit carried away with the laughter, but if this happens I will hand deliver you a tin of quality street, we would ask for too much for them to splash out on him for one, two, he just signed a new contract, three, he doesn't want to leave, four, he is our captain, and five, he used to play for United.

Sorry, this comment did really annoy me as a Stoke fan, some people don't know some things unless they support the team I guess, but this just won't happen:o[/quote']

If i was Liverpool Manager, i'd easily spalsh 10-12m on Shawry, they badly need a tough tankhouse like him - it doesn't matter if he played for Man United youths, just look at Ince Sr and now even Ince Jr who may join Man United.

It's like saying Robert Lewandovski won't join Bayern because he has played for their arch arch rivals BVB - you cannot predict players minds, agents' influences.

Big Shawcross could easily join Liverpool if he saw potential to win trophies and go down on folklore as a legend!!

I just don't see Shawcross winning titles with Stoke, simply because Pulis cannot see his current RB/LB are not good enough to challenge for top 4 spot.

Stoke are around 3 signings away, from really challenging for 4th spot and they like getting big strong players so why not Tony Jantschke (Deutsch Gary Neville) and Aly Cissohko from Valencia who are both available in the summer for smaller fees!!!

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If i was Liverpool Manager' date=' [b']i'd easily spalsh 10-12m on Shawry[/b], they badly need a tough tankhouse like him - it doesn't matter if he played for Man United youths, just look at Ince Sr and now even Ince Jr who may join Man United.

It's like saying Robert Lewandovski won't join Bayern because he has played for their arch arch rivals BVB - you cannot predict players minds, agents' influences.

Big Shawcross could easily join Liverpool if he saw potential to win trophies and go down on folklore as a legend!!

I just don't see Shawcross winning titles with Stoke, simply because Pulis cannot see his current RB/LB are not good enough to challenge for top 4 spot.

Stoke are around 3 signings away, from really challenging for 4th spot and they like getting big strong players so why not Tony Jantschke (Deutsch Gary Neville) and Aly Cissohko from Valencia who are both available in the summer for smaller fees!!!

That. He would cost more than that mate. In addition to that, no chance he is going to Liverpool, Stoke are around the same place in the league as them. Also, no and no, not our type of players. That concludes my brief correction of the blurb which you wrote.

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That. He would cost more than that mate. In addition to that' date=' no chance he is going to Liverpool, Stoke are around the same place in the league as them. Also, no and no, not our type of players. That concludes my brief correction of the blurb which you wrote.[/quote']

Wow, if he's not around 12m, how much would you realistically see his transfer fee worth comrade? 15m? B)

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Wow' date=' if he's not around 12m, how much would you realistically see his transfer fee worth comrade? 15m? B)[/quote']

15, I say countless times Stoke aren't a selling club and have no need to sell.

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15' date=' I say countless times Stoke aren't a selling club and have no need to sell.[/quote']

Stoke aren't a selling club, because a lot of the bigger clubs play the feminised tippy tappy way, whereas Stoke are generally big tankhouses, who use brute force, power, speed and strength to win matches - they were VERY unlucky not to win the 2011 FA CUp!!!!

But in reality if Liverpool (and they do tend to make huge sums of cash for players and buy is well e.g. Caroll and Downing) came in with a bid, it would be the first and best British player signing they would have acquired in years, and Stoke would not reject a 12-15m if Pulis knew he could rake in 2-3 more players with the cash.

Stoke are on a dangerous rope here, because the better Shawcross plays, the more teams like Liverpool and Everton become more interested in him.

Personally i'd like to see Shawcross demand from the manager, to purchase 2 top full backs, keep begovic and sign another top CM to play alongside Nzonzi - it's a real shame Stoke never signed Remy in the end, they could have pushed on for ta top 4/5 finish!!

I could see the big Jose Campana from Sevilla do well at Stoke also, i rate the kid very very highly!!! 95+ rated potential on SM Campana, similar to Ruben Pardo!!

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Re: English Premiership Rating Predictions 2012/13

Well these premier league updates have been unkind to my squad Marin -1 and more surprising szczesny not rising I think they got that very wrong personally At least Jagielkas +1 will help soften the blow.

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Re: English Premiership Rating Predictions 2012/13

They seem to be doing bits of teams per day as opposed to a team per day.

If Bale got 93 and Silva is 94' date=' Mata should be 94.[/quote']

I know you're a Chelsea fan mate but don't be bias here.

Silva is a regular for Spain with 69 caps (53 starts), Mata has just 33 (22 starts) and we all know if we were to name the spanish team that is regular, Mata wouldn't come into it and Silva would.

Plus Silva is older, has more experience and has won the premiership...

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Re: English Premiership Rating Predictions 2012/13

Nothing for Hazard as yet. Think he'll go to 93 with Mata tomorrow?

Nastasic has been done so clearly they're starting Man City as well.

Think Hazard will stick at 92 this time. But the rating have been mad so you never know.

I know you're a Chelsea fan mate but don't be bias here.

Silva is a regular for Spain with 69 caps (53 starts)' date=' Mata has just 33 (22 starts) and we all know if we were to name the spanish team that is regular, Mata wouldn't come into it and Silva would.

Plus Silva is older, has more experience and has won the premiership...[/quote']

I have never been biased on these forums until now where I can admit I totally am on this subject.

David Silva has the better NT status on his side yes but Mata won the Champions League and FA Cup last season both of which he was crucial - and he was our best player all season. Last season he got 12 goals and 23 assists - this season he has 16 goals and 16 assists already

Mata

2011/2012 - 12gls

2012-2013 - 16gls

Silva

2011-2012 - 8gls

2012-2013 - 3gls

On my phone so will try look for assists for Silva later

(Stats ref Wiki so will verify goals also)

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Re: English Premiership Rating Predictions 2012/13

SM must be trolling hard right now, telling me you cant just rise Oscar today? They have got the current changes right though.

Anybody also noticed Nasri dropped? Good change there imo too. Good rises also for Nastasic n Zabaleta but also hoping Clichy n Kompany go up too.

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