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Based on the fact that they are.

I'll give you a call' date=' what's the dialling code for ilovereusville?[/quote']

That made me laugh to be honest.

Heskey is better then Messi based on the fact he is.Sounds good isn't it?Nice and easy to talk without to prove anything with some clear facts.

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That made me laugh to be honest.

Heskey is better then Messi based on the fact he is.Sounds good isn't it?Nice and easy to talk without to prove anything with some clear facts.

If that is indeed a fact, then who am I to argue your claims?

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I will ask you too..Based on what my friend?

Bale on another level to Reus..nah I cleary give up.Live in your world lads...When you finally wake up and realise there are other lads who are better then the ones from PL give me a call.

EDIT: "Reus who has shown he is amazing in the biggest competitions" unlike Bale too...He only had 1 top season in PL so far.

Bale has done it when he played in the Champions League. There's a reason Bale is being linked with 60 odd million pound moves to Spain and Reus isnt, because he's better. Bale was good last season as well just not as good as this season obviously. When I said 'on another level at the moment' I meant this season just gone-which is true. If you think otherwise then you're just clearly biased towards Reus. It really is no competition. Bale WAS on another level this season.

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I like Reus and i also feel that he's much better than Neymarinho and Christian Bale, but let me say one thing or 2 things:

Italy is stronger than Germany and Balotelli is a striker also good at darts so i'd say that Balo is >>> than Germany. Can i say such a thing??

Forza Azzurri, i hate Crucchi

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Bale has done it when he played in the Champions League. There's a reason Bale is being linked with 60 odd million pound moves to Spain and Reus isnt' date=' because he's better. Bale was good last season as well just not as good as this season obviously. When I said 'on another level at the moment' I meant this season just gone-which is true. If you think otherwise then you're just clearly biased towards Reus. It really is no competition. Bale WAS on another level this season.[/quote']

Of course..If you consider that Bale is better you are right.If I consider that Reus is better I am biased..haha.Everybody is biased bar english lads...Great!That price tag is laughable.Next you gonna tell me that Bale is better then Gotze because Gotze was sold just for 37 mil while Bale is linked with a 60 mil move.Benteke is probably better then Villa too...like 5 times better?

Bale on another level?Let me ask you something..Did Bale played in UCL and got the chance to kill Real defence on his own?No,he didn't..he actually didn't even touched UCL football this season and will not have the chance to do it in next season either.Reus is playing for a team not for a single man.Reus in his first proper season at a new team scored 14 and assisted around same numbers.Reus in last 3 seasons was one of the best lads in Germany and better then Bale,quite definetly..Both are pretty even at this moment but Reus is better duo his consistency and his amazing year in the national team too.

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Of course..If you consider that Bale is better you are right.If I consider that Reus is better I am biased..haha.Everybody is biased bar english lads...Great!That price tag is laughable.Next you gonna tell me that Bale is better then Gotze because Gotze was sold just for 37 mil while Bale is linked with a 60 mil move.Benteke is probably better then Villa too...like 5 times better?

Bale on another level?Let me ask you something..Did Bale played in UCL and got the chance to kill Real defence on his own?No' date='he didn't..he actually didn't even touched UCL football this season and will not have the chance to do it in next season either.Reus is playing for a team not for a single man.Reus in his first proper season at a new team scored 14 and assisted around same numbers.Reus in last 3 seasons was one of the best lads in Germany and better then Bale,quite definetly..Both are pretty even at this moment but Reus is better duo his consistency and [b']his amazing year in the national team too[/b].

What's that got to do with it?

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Raz I don't really get your point.. Benteke is five times better than David Villa?

..and Gotze is over rated

So is Bale pal :)

EDIT: At least this overrated lad proved to be the best young player in the world in last 3 years on a consistent basis.

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Of course..If you consider that Bale is better you are right.If I consider that Reus is better I am biased..haha.Everybody is biased bar english lads...Great!That price tag is laughable.Next you gonna tell me that Bale is better then Gotze because Gotze was sold just for 37 mil while Bale is linked with a 60 mil move.Benteke is probably better then Villa too...like 5 times better?

Bale on another level?Let me ask you something..Did Bale played in UCL and got the chance to kill Real defence on his own?No' date='he didn't..he actually didn't even touched UCL football this season and will not have the chance to do it in next season either.Reus is playing for a team not for a single man.Reus in his first proper season at a new team scored 14 and assisted around same numbers.Reus in last 3 seasons was one of the best lads in Germany and better then Bale,quite definetly..Both are pretty even at this moment but Reus is better duo his consistency and his amazing year in the national team too.[/quote']

Bale won EPL player of the year, so he's good. And as much they're biased on Bale or Neymar you are on Gotze and Reus. And I'm Dortmund fan! For me Reus and Lewa deserve 93, but not becouse they're on same level as Neymar and 1 below Bale, but just becouse they're good and they prooved it! For me Reus and Bale are on same level and Neymar with his international performance prooved that he can be on that level too, so 92/93/93 is fair ratings for them!

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The debates in this thread are really entertaining :P

On topic, i guess Mkhitaryan will be starting for them next season, but are Dortmund's other signings Aubameyang and Papastathopolous likely to play much this season? Will they be first team players?

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Bale on another level?Let me ask you something..Did Bale played in UCL and got the chance to kill Real defence on his own?No' date='he didn't..he actually didn't even touched UCL football this season and will not have the chance to do it in next season either.Reus is playing for a team not for a single man.Reus in his first proper season at a new team scored 14 and assisted around same numbers.Reus in last 3 seasons was one of the best lads in Germany and better then Bale,quite definetly..Both are pretty even at this moment but Reus is better duo his consistency and his amazing year in the national team too.[/quote']

Quite definitely better over the last 3 years, what an interesting opinion that is! Especially when the starting point is they both play in different leagues, with the 1 Bale is in having more strength and depth.

Bale plays for a single man, have no idea what that means, he has no ego and is not selfish? I would suggest Reus has the luxury of better players around him than Bale, making things slightly easier for him!

A snapshot of Bale over the last 3 years:

Premier League PFA Team of the Year: 2010–11, 2011–12, 2012–13.

FWA Footballer of the Year: 2012–13

PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2010–11, 2012–13.

PFA Young Player of the Year: 2012–13.

UEFA Team of the Year: 2011.

International wise, 8 goals in 14 games in the last 3 years in a side that isn't on the same planet as Reus's national side.

UCL argument, Reus has played in the same amount of campaigns in that competition as Bale, in a stronger side as I said, and no Bale did not kill the Real defence on his own but neither did Reus - my recall was a Polish striker doing that but I do recall Bale killing the reigning European Champions defence, in their own in their back yard in his last foray into the UCL.

In summary - quite definitely not I would suggest!

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No pal..There's a big difference between fact and your opinion.I stated why Reus is better and should be considered better

That don't make what you say fact......

In fact you aint given one single reason that is FACT. The reason for that is simple because who is the better player amongst the three is totally subjective therefore you cant factually state who is better.

What I would say is that if you done a poll world-wide I would be fairly positive in saying Bale/Neymar would get more votes as a better player than Reus, whether that is true or not is again subjective.

You downgrade Bale but FACT is he scored loads more goals than Reus last season and was without doubt bar Messi/Ronaldo the single biggest influence on a side than any other player in Europe and in a side which frankly aint at the level of most of the teams the major players play.

You basically are belittiling people for not having an OPINION which don't agree with yours, and at the end of the day it is simply an opinion you are offering and that my friend is FACT ;):)

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Quite definitely better over the last 3 years' date=' what an interesting opinion that is! Especially when the starting point is they both play in different leagues, with the 1 Bale is in having more strength and depth.

Bale plays for a single man, have no idea what that means, he has no ego and is not selfish? I would suggest Reus has the luxury of better players around him than Bale, making things slightly easier for him!

A snapshot of Bale over the last 3 years:

Premier League PFA Team of the Year: 2010–11, 2011–12, 2012–13.

FWA Footballer of the Year: 2012–13

PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2010–11, 2012–13.

PFA Young Player of the Year: 2012–13.

UEFA Team of the Year: 2011.

International wise, 8 goals in 14 games in the last 3 years in a side that isn't on the same planet as Reus's national side.

UCL argument, Reus has played in the same amount of campaigns in that competition as Bale, in a stronger side as I said, and no Bale did not kill the Real defence on his own but neither did Reus - my recall was a Polish striker doing that but I do recall Bale killing the reigning European Champions defence, in their own in their back yard in his last foray into the UCL.

In summary - quite definitely not I would suggest![/quote']

Definetly my last post on this as it has no sense to argue against some british biased.Reus may have better lads around him but they don't play just for Reus...they play for the team.Bale has 9 lads playing JUST for him.A one man team.If everybody would look out just for Reus in Dortmund he'd score around 20+ isn't he?Like I said 90% of Bale awards are because of this season when he was amazing but its just one season at all.Reus broked the National team in this year and been amazing there.Its an achievment just to play for Germany as they got lots of quality on the wings but he was the best along with Ozil.If you really watched the game against Real you would've seen Reus races with the ball at his foot dribbling almost all Real Madrid defence.Reus been one of the best players in Germany in the last 3 years on a consistent basis..Bale started to shine in this season.

In a summary...quite definetly wrong I suggest.

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