steauaseka 11,893 Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Re: Bundesliga Ratings Discussion I'm glad you liked it' date=' it was thought just for you.Of course stats are important, but performances are important too, especially in very competitive games, and not subpar games that are mostly la liga. A player may not score but play very well for the team, and not simply score mostly when its easy and disappear in the big games or when the teams needs them to step up and lead them. Yes, Ronaldo and Messi do score a lot, and they are amazing in that aspect, but football changed and people only seams to see the stats and not the performances and the influence that the player has in the team football. In a more far-fetched approach, its like saying that Ronaldo and Messi are better players than Zidane and Figo just because they score a lot more goals. It's ridiculous, and that what's happened with lampard, gerrard, xavi, iniesta, sneijder and now ribery, they are left behind because their stats are not as impressive nor sell more shirts or magazines/newspapers then Messi or Ronaldo. Messi rival for all time best player is Maradona and maybe Pele , Zidane and Figo dont even fight in the same category . Again , for people who dont remenber , i am not a Barca and Messi fan and i dont like spanish football . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vitor_mfc 3,862 Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Re: Bundesliga Ratings Discussion Messi rival for all time best player is Maradona and maybe Pele ' date=' Zidane and Figo dont even fight in the same category .[b']Again , for people who dont remenber , i am not a Barca and Messi fan and i dont like spanish football .[/b] Ahaha, have even watched Pelé play? A guy that says Messi is a better football player than Zidane isn't worthy of much more words. I'm done Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marek 9,203 Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Riferimento: Re: Bundesliga Ratings Discussion Messi rival for all time best player is Maradona and maybe Pele ' date=' Zidane and Figo dont even fight in the same category .[/b'] And Ronaldinho. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steauaseka 11,893 Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Re: Bundesliga Ratings Discussion Ahaha' date=' have even watched Pelé play? A guy that says Messi is a better football player than Zidane isn't worthy of much more words. I'm done...[/quote'] He is not even the best player of all time in France .... What is the purpose of a football player ? About Pele ,I watched some of his game on DVD , he was great for that time but he never played for an important club . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sirmarkhughes 24,769 Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Re: Bundesliga Ratings Discussion Not much talk of Bundesliga happens in this thread just pages and pages of chitty spam, I think I will unsubscribe from this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SM Tony 18,601 Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Re: Bundesliga Ratings Discussion Not much talk of Bundesliga happens in this thread just pages and pages of chitty spam' date=' I think I will unsubscribe from this.[/quote']If your after Bundesliga talk you will find it in the link below,this is a ratings thread. http://forum.soccermanager.com/showthread.php?t=69131 Edit: There is a good debate going on right now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Glenn Hysén 1,123 Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 Re: Bundesliga Ratings Discussion If your after Bundesliga talk you will find it in the link below' date='this is a ratings thread.[/i']http://forum.soccermanager.com/showthread.php?t=69131 Edit: There is a good debate going on right now. Well... But the recent discussion here isn't really about ratings for Bundesliga players, is it...?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SM Tony 18,601 Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 Re: Bundesliga Ratings Discussion Well... But the recent discussion here isn't really about ratings for Bundesliga players' date=' is it...??[/quote']No, i mean if he is looking for some more Bundesliga talk, perhaps more then what he has seen here that thread might interest him... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HD 3,139 Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 Re: Bundesliga Ratings Discussion If we are still discussing ratings Is there a chance for Arthur Boka to get a +1 ?? Also is Farfan safe at his 91 rating?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alux 752 Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 Re: Bundesliga Ratings Discussion Weidenfeller likely to hit 92 anytime soon? 91 seems too low for someone of his caliber. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Brooks 9,953 Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 Riferimento: Re: Bundesliga Ratings Discussion If we are still discussing ratingsIs there a chance for Arthur Boka to get a +1 ?? Also is Farfan safe at his 91 rating?? Very likely. He deserves it. Yes' date=' i'm sure, he's safe.[/b'] HD and SM Tony 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Ohas 18 Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 Re: Bundesliga Ratings Discussion When the hell would the powers that be do something about T. Muller's rating. I feel Robben's ratin should also be considered cos i think he's rediscovered himself recently... And what happened to S. Keissling? I mean he finished as BL's top scorer shouldn't he atleast get a +1? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sachmaster 60 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Re: Bundesliga Ratings Discussion great schweini and lahm get their +1, but why not also do muller, javi, dante, neuer, reus, lewandowski, gundogan, kiessling, lars, draxler etc rises as well? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VatreniUnited 3,738 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Re: Bundesliga Ratings Discussion great schweini and lahm get their +1' date=' but why not also do muller, javi, dante, neuer, reus, lewandowski, gundogan, kiessling, lars, draxler etc rises as well?[/quote']Probably some of them will get a review, just wait and see. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ashtini 27,252 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Re: Bundesliga Ratings Discussion great schweini and lahm get their +1' date=' but why not also do muller, javi, dante, neuer, reus, lewandowski, gundogan, kiessling, lars, draxler etc rises as well?[/quote']Would imagine they'd happen in the next couple of days, they are staggered a lot more now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BroodRoosterNL 10,833 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Re: Bundesliga Ratings Discussion great schweini and lahm get their +1' date=' but why not also do muller, javi, dante, neuer, reus, lewandowski, gundogan, kiessling, lars, draxler etc rises as well?[/quote']Well probably because they cannot do 2000 players at once, they've been updating Bundesliga, La Liga, Premier League and Ligue 1 players so it seems they're just working on some of the biggest stars right now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panczo 10 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Re: Bundesliga Ratings Discussion Alaba can rise to 92? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
reason17 82 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Re: Bundesliga Ratings Discussion Hi, I have the chance to buy Simon Rolfes, should I? Will he drop to 90, or is he safe? Also, will s hmelzer rise to 91 or 92? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ashtini 27,252 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Re: Bundesliga Ratings Discussion Alaba can rise to 92? I wonder if it is too soon but I would like to see it if I am honest. Hi' date=' I have the chance to buy Simon Rolfes, should I? Will he drop to 90, or is he safe?Also, will s hmelzer rise to 91 or 92?[/quote'] I'd say Rolfes is safe, but I am not Bundesliga expert. Schmelzer will hit 91. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SM Tony 18,601 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Re: Bundesliga Ratings Discussion Alaba can rise to 92? I think he will get it' date=' stranger things have happened.[/i'] Phil Brooks 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matteoprontera 1,294 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Re: Bundesliga Ratings Discussion Alaba can rise to 92? Yes, he has a good chance to climb to 92 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
penjurov 686 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Re: Bundesliga Ratings Discussion Well probably because they cannot do 2000 players at once' date=' they've been updating Bundesliga, La Liga, Premier League and Ligue 1 players so it seems they're just working on some of the biggest stars right now [/quote']C'mon 2000 players at once....How many players has been REALLY reviewed(and I'm not talking about changing retirement status,Preferred Foot, weight or height). What really matters in changing is rating, position and club. Age one entered correcly doesn't need to be change(and please no Falcao roumors!). I'm working with databases myself and am changing a LOT more items in one day then they in a month! Not to talk about that players in whom 99% of players are interested, are not more than 1000! Do you really care if Mario Bolatti is 86 or 87 rated? Or if Charles Kabore gonna keep his 88 or not? And so on! Even if they change 50 players for a day(around 1 hour job) they should review ALL of these 1000 players for a 1 month(20 business days). And I'm talking about only 1 employer working day. If they're 4, they can review everyone that matters every week! Gozzy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KirkyyLUFC 12,390 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Re: Bundesliga Ratings Discussion C'mon 2000 players at once....How many players has been REALLY reviewed(and I'm not talking about changing retirement status' date='Preferred Foot, weight or height). What really matters in changing is rating, position and club. Age one entered correcly doesn't need to be change(and please no Falcao roumors!). I'm working with databases myself and am changing a LOT more items in one day then they in a month! Not to talk about that players in whom 99% of players are interested, are not more than 1000! [b']Do you really care if Mario Bolatti is 86 or 87 rated? Or if Charles Kabore gonna keep his 88 or not?[/b] And so on! Even if they change 50 players for a day(around 1 hour job) they should review ALL of these 1000 players for a 1 month(20 business days). And I'm talking about only 1 employer working day. If they're 4, they can review everyone that matters every week! You clearly only choose "big clubs" to manage. Gozzy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VatreniUnited 3,738 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Re: Bundesliga Ratings Discussion Well, they're slow this time, it's true. But atleast give them a time now they're looks like will start review big league. Oh, and penjurov, yes some people(many actually) also care about some random 86 rated because it could be they're in some unique rules custom etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
penjurov 686 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Re: Bundesliga Ratings Discussion You clearly only choose "big clubs" to manage. If Sheffield United' date=' Arsenal di Sarandi, CSKA Sofia and so on are from those "big clubs", so yes I have only big clubs. But even in GC starting in Div 2 for a season you can get avg 88 club without a problem! Ofcourse that I have big clubs as well, but my point is that 87 and below are valuable only if they're young prospects. Oh, and penjurov, yes some people(many actually) also care about some random 86 rated because it could be they're in some unique rules custom etc. I admin I'm not familiar with this rules, couse I play mostly in GC. But cannot believe some 86 are better than some 88, if not considering the potential of the player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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