87+ 2,415 Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 GAME WORLD NAME: 87+ (GW ID 154503)JOIN THE WAITING FOR VACANCY LIST TO GET INVOLVED87+ is a custom game world that focuses solely on the lower end of the player rating scale. 80 is the new 90! Designed specifically to play against like minded people who enjoy the research/riser part of Soccer Manager and who want to compete in a competitive and fast evolving game world.THE 87+ RULE (In Brief): Once a player reaches a rating of 87+ he MUST be sold.THE 87+ RULE (In Depth): There will be a selling cap. By this I mean once a player reaches say 87 or higher they MUST be sold at the first opportunity so as to help keep the need of finding rising talents. This would also help keep it interesting in the sense that just because one team is good at a particular point in time they might just be say a Brazil ratings change from having to sell several of their first teamer's. All teams would never be far ahead or far behind and each season there would be a greater chance of new contenders pushing for glory!! We would kind of be like feeder clubs in that once a player gets high enough rated he is bought by a bigger (external/unmanaged) club. An example: you buy player rated 80 he then gets a rise of +4 to 84 and becomes a first team player for your club. He plays at your club a couple of seasons before his country's rating comes back around again. This time he gets a +2 to 86 and is now a star of your team. Another couple of seasons pass and his country's rating comes around again. He gets a +1 taking him to 87. He has now been spotted by a bigger (external/unmanged) club and has to be sold due to the player wanting to move on. Same rules for every manager in the setup. It would make it interesting as players would only be able to play for a club for a few seasons a bit more like real life and unlike the 20, 30+ seasons a player can in normal SM setups. Should a player rise to 87+, whether he's transfer banned or not he becomes ineligible to play for the club any more IMMEDIATELY and either has to wait his transfer ban out without playing any more games or if not banned transfer listed straight away. NO EXCEPTIONS!! The manager then has to accept the FIRST offer that comes in for the player. If there's more than one its the first in the list of offers on his profile/transfer page. NO EXCEPTIONS!! Should a manager play an 87+ either on purpose or by accident he MUST face a transfer ban. A four week ban for each game the 87+ plays in. If more than one 87+ played then an extra week is added for each subsequent player. For an example if two 87+ play one game the club is banned for five weeks if they then play the next game it is extended to 10 weeks and so on. NO EXCEPTIONS (unfortunatly this includes going on holiday as it would be open to abuse! It is YOUR responsibility as manager to make sure you don't end up being transfer banned for months. You could try and use players who have been rated recently so no unexpected 87+ sneaks in) If the ban reaches 10 weeks or you ignore the ban and sign someone (Why are you playing this setup? ) you MUST sell the best rated player at your club who is available to sell IMEDIATELY! (this noes not include the 87+ rated player who has to be sold anyway). If more than one player rated the same you MUST sell the youngest of them. For example you have an 85 rated player but he is transfer banned. The next highest is two 84's who arn't transfer banned, one is 22 the other 30. You MUST sell the 22 year old. You MUST still serve the Ban as well as selling the player. The player must not play any more for the club whilst waiting to be sold. For every week extra that the ban rises from after the first enforced sale, that shall be the amount of players that MUST also be sold. Again these shall be the highest rated and if a tie the youngest of the players. For example if a ban reaches 12 weeks and an ineligable player plays the next game the ban rises to 16 weeks and 4 more of the highest rated players MUST be put up for sale and sold as soon as possible. These players MUST also not play again. Should anyone let themselves get beyond this point I would hope they would do the decent thing and resign from the club so as to be fair to the other GW managers who abide by the rules and for the future competitiveness of the club and the good of the GW in general. This doesn't mean that the manager would never be allowed back to manage again in the future. Having the decency to resign would go a long way to making amends for continual breaking of the rules and building goodwill for future involvement. Should the manager resign the club's ban and enforced sales (excluding 87+ rated players) shall be rescinded so as not to punish the new manager coming in. Please don't let yourself get into this situation. Should a manager leave the setup and some of that clubs players rise to 87+ before a new manager can be found they WILL be eligible to play until a new manager is found. This is for obvious reasons. Look at it as a booster/club protection for the unmanaged club to help keep them competative at a time when they are at a big disadvantage (fitness and not being able to sign) If they have an 89 for example don't complain just deal with it! its one or two game's of many and the same for all If the manager has a bid in for a player before they get a transfer ban the bid is allowed to stand. However the player will be ileligable to play for the club and MUST adhere to the same rules as if he were an 87+ rated player. The 87+ rule is obviously reliant on the goodwill of those who participate to self regulate, so please be considerate to your fellow managers no matter how frustrating something might be and stick to the rule. If we don't then what is the point in participating?. This is meant to be something different and challenging and will need a little love for us to get the best out of the experience!Please note this is a forum GW and as such applying to join the GW means that you are willing to commit to posting on this forum thread to be part of its community and for the overall good of the GW. Being allowed to join the GW and then not posting is not fair on everyone else involved and will be deemed as not acting in the GW's best interest and you may be asked to leave. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------UNFAIR ACTIONS OR CHEATING BETWEEN PARTICIPATING CLUBS AND MANAGER DISAGREEMENTS Clubs that are obviously or suspiciously acting unfairly with other participating clubs should be reported to the GW administrator (Monkeyshuffl) by way of PM rather than posting accusations or anything inflammatory on the forum. This way the case will always be officially raised by me to limit any bitterness and ill feelings between managers. From there I will look in to the matter asking the relevant managers to explain their reasoning behind their actions and will come to a decision on whether they have acted unfairly or in a way that could damage the GW. At this point the decision is final and must be respected whether agreed with or not - The opportunity for defending the investigated action and influencing a decision will have passed. If while the investigation is taking place it is still possible to cancel a transfer that is being investigated the transfer should be canceled immediately. If all is found to be above board the transfer can then later take place. A similar process is also there to mediate manager disagreements. Note: The final decision doesn't necessarily have to find both clubs innocent or guilty - for example it can be possible for one club to be innocent if I feel they acted in good faith whilst the other guilty if I feel they were trying to manipulate things in an unfair manner.The punishment for the clubs are as follows 1. A Club found guilty must terminate all loans too and from the club to any club. A loan ban is then in effect for the rest of the season and the following season. 2. If the issue was raised over a transfer that has yet to be completed the transfer should be cancelled immediately by either club. 3. If the issue was raised over a transfer that has already been completed the player must not play for his new club and must be sold as soon as his transfer ban has expired. 4. Guilty cubs face a season long transfer ban (buying) for the remainder of the current season and the following season. They may still sell though. Tranmere will (try to remember to:o) inform the managers when the punishment has expired.Any manager ignoring the punishment (I forgot or any other excuse won't cut it) will unfortunately be asked to leave the GW as they are failing to act in its best interest. Note: I may amend this at anytime if I feel it is needed as its important to try and get this right. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ A Buying rating cap of 80 Max (SM enforced) A Selling Rating cap of 87+ (Self Imposed Manager enforced) 2 Leagues of 10 (4 promoted 4 relegated each season - Play off) Small clubs (Grounds between 9k-16k) Blank Squad to start 30m Starting budget Poor economy ON Transfer windows OFF Buying from Unmanaged clubs OFF Buying from external clubs ON Buying players over the age of ANY Can not do cash transfers over OFF Can only offer cash to clubs in deals OFF Can only buy players with the same nationality as your club OFF Player concerns ON SMFA monitoring transfers OFF Manager sacked if they finish in bottom OFF Manager must log-in to this Game World at least every 14 days If your someone who enjoys looking for risers, doesn't mind losing the next Messi once he reach's 87+, is happy to follow the rules and in general likes the sound of the setup feel free to inquire about availability of places.WAITING FOR VACANCY LIST… If I don't have your in game name I will move on to next person in list so tell me! ) 1 themd21 2 Daniel Schumacher 3 ivananic 4 tupac_healy 5 palyoCURRENT DIVISION COMPOSITIONDIVISION 1.... 1 Miki M.........Stade Brestois....................Miki M 2 Rilo...........................Guaratinguetá...... ...............Christopher Riley 3 Revolt...................Greuther Furth....................La Revolution 4 Ryan Sadegjhi.....................Como............... .. . ...............Ryan Sadegjhi 5 ΓΙΩΡΓΟΣ ΧΙΩΤΗΣ....................NK Varazdin........................ΓΙΩΡΓΟΣ ΧΙΩΤΗΣ 6 Rob Soar.....................Rochdale............. ...............Rob Soar 7 coach spam..................Rayo Vallecano....................coach spam 8 Georgi Georgiev........................Willem II............................Georgi Georgiev 9 Cam Lucas........................Doncaster Rovers................Cameron Lucas 10 Geoffrey R.......................AC Siena............................Geoffrey R DIVISION 2.... 1 Wayne "Wazza" Rooney....................Crewe................ ................Wayne "Wazza" Rooney 2 Marius MG............Zalaegerszegi TE.................Marius MG 3 Tranmere...................Wrexham................ ............Fred Ziko 4 will-gee...................Jahn Regensburg.................billy gray 5 Gizb..........................Muangthong United...............Gizb (forum) 6 Mattsson...............FC Lugano..........................Gustaf Mattsson 7 Keystone.....................Barcelona B........................Gordon (Keystone - Forum) Christopher 8 Animation..........................FC Nordsjaelland..................Matthew Sampson 9 Gozzy........................UD Logrones.......................boaz "Gozzy" solossa 10 petergrady...........................Liverpool de Montevideo.......Peter Grady RULE BREAK TRANSFER BANS Name.................Team......................... ........Until 1. Miki M........Stade Brestois......................11th of June 2 Georgi Georgiev......Willem....................15th of June87+ HALL OF FAMELEAGUE DIV 1 TITLE WINNERSSeason...Manager Name......Club....................Pts............SM Name 1...........tonyba..................Como.......... ........38.............Tony Baldo 2...........Soccahappy...........FC Lugano............35.............David Scriven 3...........Sachmaster...........Willem II..............36.............Sach the Gunner 4...........Soccahappy...........FC Lugano............31.............David Scriven 5...........Soccahappy...........FC Lugano............36.............David Scriven 6...........Noisy....................Crewe........ ..........31.............Noisy 7...........Tranmere..............Wrexham......... ....37.............Fred Ziko 8...........Rilo......................Guaratinguet á.......34.............Christopher Riley 9...........Rilo......................Guaratinguet á.......36.............Christopher Riley 10.........chridecp1..............Rayo Vallecano......34.............chR Ristos 11.........chridecp1..............Rayo Vallecano......35.............chR Ristos 12.........Nailsdog................Rochdale....... .......36.............Adam Whitworth 13.........Nailsdog................Rochdale....... .......33..............Adam Whitworth 14.........Cam Lucas.........Doncaster Rovers.....31...........Cameron Lucas 15.........Tranmere..............Wrexham...............35.............Fred Ziko 16.........Tranmere..............Wrexham...............43.............Fred Ziko 17.........TomOwen..............Crewe....................33...............Tom Pham 18.........Tranmere..............Wrexham................36............Fred Ziko 19.........Tranmere.............Wrexham.................38............Fred Ziko 20.........Cam Lucas.........Doncaster Rovers.....33............Cameron Lucas 21.........Cam Lucas.........Doncaster Rovers.....34............Cameron Lucas 22.........Ryan Sadegjhi........Como..................34 ...............Ryan Sadegjhi LEAGUE DIV 2 TITLE WINNERSSeason...Manager Name......Club.....................Pts............SM Name 1...........Soccahappy...........FC Lugano.............35............David Scriven 2...........Sachmaster...........Willem II...............37............Sach the Gunner 3...........Rilo......................Guaratinguet á........34............Christopher Riley 4...........rbdutch.................Zalaegerszegi TE.....37...........Brian Hollands 5...........Rilo......................Guaratinguet á.........36...........Christopher Riley 6...........KeyserSoze...........Greuther Furth........36...........Chris G 7...........tonyba..................Como.......... ..........34...........Tony Baldo 8...........chridecp1..............Rayo Vallecano.......39...........chR Ristos 9...........Tranmere..............Wrexham......... ......35...........Fred Ziko 10.........Nailsdog................Rochdale....... .........35..........Adam Whitworth 11.........Noisy....................AC Siena................33...........Noisy 12.........Muallan.................Como........... ..........36...........Michel blatter 13.........huddo...................UD Logrones..........32.........Michael Hudson 14.........Wolfy102...............Greuther Furth......34............Cesc Basnandez 15.........TomOwen.............Crewe Alexndra......33............Tom Pham 16.........Rilo.......................Guaratingueta.........36............Christopher Riley 17.........Nailsdog................Rochdale................37................Adam Whitworth 18.........Rilo........................Guaratingueta.........36.............Christopher Riley 19.........riki87.....................NK Varazdin............33...............J.D. 20.........footie.....................Willem II...............40................Wei C 21.........Gizb....................Muangthong United.....33..........Gizb (forum) 22......Rilo.........................Guaratinguetá...... ...37............Christopher Riley DIVISION 2 PLAYOFF WINNERSSeason...Manager Name......Club................................SM Name 1...........Nailsdog...............Rochdale....... ...................Adam Whitworth 2...........Monkeyshuffl.........Liverpool de Montevideo.....Monkeyshuffl 3...........animattion............Barcelona B......................Matthew Sampson 4...........Mutant.................Muangthong United............D B 5...........Monkeyshuffl.........Liverpool de Montevideo.....Monkeyshuffl 6...........chridecp1..............Rayo Vallecano.................chR Ristos 7...........Mitrogluckylook......NK Varazdin.....................bill pol 8...........Nailsdog................Rochdale...... ....................Adam Whitworth 9...........Mitrogluckylook......NK Varazdin.....................bill pol 10.........Cookiemonster.......Zalaegerszegi TE...............Phil Cook 11.........Klorway.................Jahn Regensburg..............Jim Garvock 12.........Nikidinho...............Crewe.......... ...................Xavier Fernandez 13.........Noisy..........................Robur Siena............................Noisy 14.........footie.......................Willem II............................Wei C 15.........son of pluto (forum)....Rayo Vallecano...........son of pluto 16.........geoffrey23.................Como...........................Geoffrey R 17........footie..........................Willem II.............................Wei C 18........Stevie GI..................Barcelona B.....................Tatenda Bailey 19........Noisy..........................Robur Siena.......................Noisy 20........Mattsson...................FC Lugano.....................Gustaf Mattsson 21.......coach spam..................Rayo Vallecano....................coach spam 22........Geoffrey R.......................AC Siena............................Geoffrey R87+ CUP WINNERSSeason...Manager Name.............Club................................SM Name 1...........brunopinto90................Jahn Regensburg..............bruno pinto 2...........Monkeyshuffl................Liverpool de Montevideo....Monkeyshuffl 3...........Tranmere.....................Wrexham.. ......................Fred Ziko 4...........Tranmere.....................Wrexham.. ......................Fred Ziko 5...........Mitrogluckylook.............NK Varazdin....................bill pol 6...........David Garvock..............FC Nordsjaelland..............David Garvock 7...........Monkeyshuffl................Liverpool de Montevideo....Monkeyshuffl 8...........tonyba.........................Como... ..........................Tony Baldo 9...........Cookiemonster..............Zalaegersze gi TE..............Phil Cook 10.........Rilo..............................Guara tinguetá..................Christopher Riley 11.........Monkeyshuffl................Liverpool de Montevideo....Monkeyshuffl 12.........Tino............................Doncast er Rovers..............Tino (Forum) 13.........Mitrogluckylook............NK Varazdin.....................bill pol 14.........Nailsdog............................Roc hdale........................Adam Whitworth 15.........Guriynwa.....................Liverpool de Montevideo........Gursimran Brar 16.........Mitrogluckylook..............NK Varazdin.....................bill pol 17........Wolfy102..........................Greuther Furth...............Cesc Basnandez 18........Rob Soar........................Rochdale........................rob soar 19........Mattsson......................Lugano.............................Gustaf Mattsson 20........Rob Soar........................Rochdale......................rob soar 21.......Revolt...................Greuther Furth....................La Revolution 22.......Revolt...................Greuther Furth....................La Revolution 87+ CHARITY SHIELD WINNERSSeason...Manager Name.............Club................................SM Name 1...........NA 2...........tonyba........................Como.... ..........................Tony Baldo 3...........Soccahappy.................FC Lugano........................David Scriven 4...........Sachmaster..................Willem II.........................Sach the Gunner 5...........Tranmere....................Wrexham... ......................Fred Ziko 6...........Mitrogluckylook............NK Varazdin.....................bill pol 7...........Noisy..........................Crewe.. ............................Noisy 8...........Monkeyshuffl................Liverpool de Montevideo....Monkeyshuffl 9...........tonyba........................Como.... ..........................Tony Baldo 10.........Rilo.............................Guarat inguetá..................Christopher 11.........chridecp1.....................Rayo Vallecano.................chR Ristos 12.........Monkeyshuffl................Liverpool de Montevideo....Monkeyshuffl 13.........Tino.................................Do ncaster Rovers..................Tino (Forum) 14.........Nailsdog.............................Ro chdale........................Adam Whitworth 15.........Cam Lucas......................Doncaster Rovers............Cameron Lucas 16.........Tranmere......................Wrexham............................Fred Ziko 17.........Mitrogluckylook.............NK Varazdin......................bill pol 18.........TomOwen......................Crewe Alexandra.............Tom Pham 19.........Tranmere......................Wrexham.............................Fred Ziko 20.........Tranmere......................Wrexham.............................Fred Ziko 21.........Cam Lucas............Doncaster Rovers.................Cameron Lucas 22.........Revolt...................Greuther Furth....................La Revolution BEST GAME WORLD MANAGERS OF ALL TIME (Updated at the end of each season) (* denotes former manager of) The consideration of order is as follows, avg pts first but total pts as a secondary consideration for qualification so that a manager can't just play a few games and be on the list.Pos...Manager Name..........Pts...Avg Pts...Games...Club 1......David Garvock*.........456....2.39.......191.........FC Nordsjaelland 2......fred ziko.....................1061.......2.29.......463. ....... .Wrexham 3......rob soar...................272......2.21......123............Rochdale 4......Tony Baldo*...............425.......2.24.......190........ .Como 5......chR Ristos*.............396......2.18.......182......... Rayo Vallecano 6.....La Revolution..........230.......2.67.......86.............Greuther Furth 7.........Monkeyshuffl*...........595....2.16.......2 76.........Liverpool de Montevideo 8......Christopher Riley......874......2.14.......408..........Guaratin gueta 9.....son of pluto (forum)*.....209.....2.11.......99...........Rayo Vallecano 10...Matthew Sampson............228.....2.07.......110.........Doncaster Rovers __________________________________________________ _______ Players must have played 30 league games to be eligible for Hall of Fame. Managers can submit a player (at the end of a season) for the Hall of Fame once a player reaches this criteria and is good enough to make the top ten. This can be updated anytime between the last game of the season and the first of the new season) (* Denotes former 87+ league player)ALL TIME LEAGUE APPSPlayer Name.........................No. Apps...............Club 1 Koen Casteels.....................394.................. .....Crewe Alexandra 2 Nicola Leali.........................388................. ......Willem II 3 Fabian Giefer......................341................... ....Guaratingueta 4 Raphael Holzhauser...........340(2)...................UD Logrones 5 Lucas Ocampos.............321(1)...................Siena 6 Sebastian Polter..................305(14)..................Logrones 7 Ashley Westwood................306..........................Guaratingueta 8 Juan Quintero.....................303(4)............... ....Furth 9 Ricardo Centurion*...............289(7)......................Rochdale 10 Gael Bigirimana*...................280(4)...................FC Nordsjaelland ALL TIME LEAGUE GSPlayer Name..........................GS................Cl ub 1 Raul Jimenez*.......................115................Gu aratingueta 2 Lucas Ocampos....................105...............AC Siena 3 Josef Martinez....................102...................Rayo Vallecano 4 Jurgan Locadia*.....................100................Crew e5 Sebastian Polter...................100...............UD Logrones6 Dani Schahin*................................85....................Jahn Regensburg 7 Diego Rolan*.........................84................G uaratingueta 8 Juan Quintero............................82......................Greuther Furth9 Troy Deeney*...............................77.................R ochdale 10 Hector Villalba....................76.................Guaratingueta ALL TIME LEAGUE ASSPlayer Name......................No. Ass................Club 1 Raul Jimenez*.........................87................Guaratingueta 2 Juan Quintero........................86..............Greuther Furth 3 Josef Martinez.......................82......................Rayo Vallecano 4 Alexander Kacaniklic...............77................AC Siena 5 Lucas Mugni..........................73................L iverpool de Montevideo 6 Sebastian Polter.....................71................UD Logrones 7 Massimo Bruno.........................67................ .Doncaster Rovers 8 Diego Rolan*...........................66............... . Guaratingueta 9 Junior Fernandes.................66..................Crewe A;exandra 10 Denis Cheryshev*..................64................Crew e Alexandra ALL TIME LEAGUE AvPPlayer Name............................AvP............... .........Club 1 Andreas Weimann*................7.54...................... .Barcelona B 2 Alvaro Morata*......................7.50................. ......Wrexham 3 Ricardo Goulart*....................7.48.................. ......Liverpool de Montevideo 4 Michail Antonio*....................7.47.................. ......Wrexham 5 Youri Tielemans*.....................7.45................ ......Wrexham 6 Breel Embolo*.......................7.44.........................Wrexham 7 Paco Alcacer*........................7.44.............. .........Rayo Vallecano 8 Mark Uth.............................7.43.........................Wrexham 9 Diego Rolan*...........................7.42............. . ......Guaratingueta 10 Ayoze Perez..........................7.22....................... Wrexham MOST GOALS SCORED BY A PLAYER IN A SINGLE SEASONPlayer Name.....................Goals.............Club... ..............Season Breel Embolo...................17.................Wrexha m.............19MOST ASSISTS IN A SINGLE SEASONPlayer Name.....................Assists.............Club. ................Season Adnan Januzaj...................13....................Wr exham..........7BEST OVERALL PERFORMANCE IN A SINGLE SEASONPlayer Name.....................AvP............Club. ................Season Mark Uth.....................8.35............Wrexham............15BEST POSSIBLE TEAM EVER TO GRACE THE GW (BASED ON RATING NOT ACHIEVEMENTS)Team...........Wrexham.......................Season 16 (GK)............Francesco Bardi..........................86 (D)..............Rocha Mayke.........................86 (D)..............Jonathan Tah..............................86 (D)..............Eric Bailly............................86 (M)..............Abdoulaye Doucoure............86 (M)..............Riechedly Bazoer....................86 (M)..............Leroy Sane................................86 (M)..............Naby Keita............................86 (M)..............Ayoze Perez.................................86 (F)...............Keita Balde...............................86 (F)...............Breel Embolo.........................86 Total............................................. .............946 AVG............................................... ............86ALL TIME RECORD TRANSFERSPosition......Player Name................Club.......................... ...Cost 1................Dele Alli..................Barcelona B.......................32.2 2................Leroy Sane...................Wrexham......................23.9 3............Kylian Mbappe..................Siena.............................18.8 4................Gabriel Jesus................Wrexham.....................18.5 5...............Jose Luis Gaya................Siena............................18.2 6...............Hakan Calhanoglu.........Rayo Vallecano..............17.7 7...............Samuel Umtiti..............Stade Brestois...............16.4 8...............Sergio Rico...................Barcelona B...................16.3 9...........Christian Pulisic...................Zalaegerszegi............16.2 10...............Gabriel Barbosa.............Rochdale.......................15.8TRANSFER SUMMERYSeason......No. .........Total..........................Avg....... ...Highest 1..............944..........822,776,500.........87 1,585................6.3 2..............473..........455,912,200.........96 3,873................9.2 3..............620..........693,174,500.......1,11 8,023..............13.5 4..............368..........476,599,900.......1,29 5,108..............11.2 5..............681..........876,600,500.......1,28 7,225..............16.4 6..............361..........465,400,800.......1,28 9,198..............15.4 7..............476..........683,130,600.......1,43 5,148..............15.4 8..............413..........658,061,700.......1,59 3,369..............11.3 9..............422..........568,220,100.......1,34 6,493..............11.0 10............581..........816,335,326.......1,405 ,052..............10.2 11............455..........701,242,800.......1,541 ,192..............17.7 12............642..........796,836,500.......1,241 ,178..............13.1 13............N/A.........N/A........................N/A..........................14.1 14............699..........889,196,800.......1,272 ,096...............18.2 15............564..........699,667,700.......1,240,545................10.9 16............445..........487,980,600.......1,121,000................14.4 17............N/A............N/A......................N/A.........................N/A 18............287..........558,550,420.......1,945,281................32.2 19............N/A...........N/A......................N/A.........................N/A 20............333.......... 426,905,390.......1,281,998..............18.5 21............N/A...........N/A.......................N/A........................N/A 22.......................................................................................18.8 HISTORY OF NUMBER OF TIMES PROMOTED AND RELEGATED..........................................P....... ......R Como..................................4........... ..4 Crewe Alexandra...................3.............4 Barcelona B..........................5.............6 Jahn Regensburg...................4.............5 UD Logrones.........................3.............4 Zalaegerszegi TE...................3.............4 FC Lugano............................4.............4 Stade Brestois.......................7.............6 Doncaster Rovers..................3.............2 Rochdale..............................5........... ..4 Greuther Furth......................5.............4 Guaratinguetá.......................6............. 5 AC Siena..............................6.............5 NK Varazdin..........................6.............5 Willem II..............................6.............5 Liverpool de Montevideo.........3.............3 FC Nordsjaelland...................4.............5 Wrexham.............................2............. 3 Rayo Vallecano.....................6.............6 Muangthong United...............3.............4 Rodrigo0 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Noisy 15,078 Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 Re: 87+ NEW GAME WORLD NAME: 87+ PROVISIONAL START DATE: Monday 31st September 2012 87+ is a new custom game world that focuses solely on the lower end of the player rating scale. 80 is the new 90! Designed specifically to play against like minded people who enjoy the research/riser part of Soccer Manager and who want to compete in a competitive and fast evolving game world. THE 87+ RULE (In Brief): Once a player reaches a rating of 87+ he must be sold. THE 87+ RULE (In Depth): There will be a selling cap. By this I mean once a player reaches say 87 or higher they MUST be sold at the first opportunity so as to help keep the need of finding rising talents. This would also help keep it interesting in the sense that just because one team is good at a particular point in time they might just be say a Brazil ratings change from having to sell several of their first teamer's. All teams would never be far ahead or far behind and each season there would be a greater chance of new contenders pushing for glory!! We would kind of be like feeder clubs in that once a player gets high enough rated he is bought by a bigger (external/unmanaged) club. An example: you buy player rated 80 he then gets a rise of +4 to 84 and becomes a first team player for your club. He plays at your club a couple of seasons before his country's rating comes back around again. This time he gets a +2 to 86 and is now a star of your team. Another couple of seasons pass and his country's rating comes around again. He gets a +1 taking him to 87. He has now been spotted by a bigger (external/unmanged) club and has to be sold due to the player wanting to move on. Same rules for every manager in the setup. It would make it interesting as players would only be able to play for a club for a few seasons a bit more like real life and unlike the 20' date=' 30+ seasons a player can in normal SM setups. Should a player rise to 87+, whether he's transfer banned or not he becomes ineligible to play for the club any more IMMEDIATELY and either has to wait his transfer ban out without playing any more games or if not banned transfer listed straight away. NO EXCEPTIONS!! The manager then has to accept the FIRST offer that comes in for the player. If there's more than one its the first in the list of offers on his profile/transfer page. NO EXCEPTIONS!! Should a manager play an 87+ either on purpose or by accident he MUST face a transfer ban. A four week ban for each game the 87+ plays in. If more than one 87+ played then an extra week is added for each subsequent player. For an example if two 87+ play one game the club is banned for five weeks if they then play the next game it is extended to 10 weeks and so on. NO EXCEPTIONS!! Should a manager leave the setup and some of that clubs players rise to 87+ before a new manager can be found they WILL be eligible to play until a new manager is found. This is for obvious reasons. :p The 87+ rule is obviously reliant on the goodwill of those who participate to self regulate, so please be considerate to your fellow managers no matter how frustrating something might be and stick to the rule. If we don't then what is the point in participating?. This is meant to be something different and challenging and will need a little love for us to get the best out of the experience! A Buying rating cap of 80 Max (SM enforced) A Selling Rating cap of 87+ (Self Imposed Manager enforced) 2 Leagues of 8 (4 promoted 4 relegated each season) Blank Squad to start 30m Starting budget No buying from unmanaged clubs No transfer windows Poor economy Small clubs (Grounds between 10k-12k) INTERESTED LIST… 1 Monkeyshuffl 2 Soccahappy 3 Nicholasbig96 4 Najduch5 5 Like_A_Boas 6 Bornich 7 AbuDhabi 8 tonyba 9 Lincvillan 10 Kevin Junior 11 Campbellblade 12 MaoaM 13 Rodrigo0 14 15 16 If your someone who enjoys looking for risers, doesn't mind losing the next Messi once he reach's 87+, is happy to follow the rules and in general likes the sound of the setup feel free to inquire about availability of places. Lastly a big thank you to those who have already said they would like to play, as without you this idea would never have got this far (crosses fingers and hopes no one drops out) im intrested. 87+ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soccahappy 9,415 Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 Re: 87+ This is a REAL CHALLENGE Look forward to it, tho I am at a disadvantage being away monday & tuesday & really busy on Wednesday. Nevertheless I'm in! 87+ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
animattion 509 Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 Re: 87+ WHOA! count me in on this bad boy! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Campbellblade 364 Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 Re: 87+ *just checking in* Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tranmere 437 Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 Re: 87+ Wow, i love the idea, im new to the forum but have been a very active manager for a long time now, with a good eye for young talents I would like to join please! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rodrigo0 778 Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 Re: 87+ Great idea man! Really interested and thnks for the invite 87+ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lincvillan 1,795 Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 Re: 87+ Can't wait Cheers for the invite too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt72 25,087 Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 Re: 87+ I would be interested in this set-up, I have one slot available and would love to join. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tonyba 2,608 Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 Re: 87+ Excited to be joining it. Just 1 thing I should add is, I definitely hate the idea of selling when they hit 87+. If you are intelligent enough to find the talent, you shouldnt be put in a position to then sell. Its going to be rare to see a lot of players go that high, at least in the 1st season and it should be a decision by the coach if they sell and use the large sum to reinvest. But I enjoy the unique aspect and will play by the rules. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AbuDhabi 660 Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 Re: 87+ You did it Monkeyshuffl 87+ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nicholasbig96 953 Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 Re: 87+ Continue interested Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mutant 16 Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 Re: 87+ If there is still space then I would interested in joining. 87+ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
87+ 2,415 Posted September 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 Re: 87+ Can people please let me know their in game name so I can invite them to the setup (Friend request Ashleigh Hilton and let me know who you are on the forum) ...plus can people choose which team they would like to be (first come first served on this by way of posting on the forum). Remember its grounds between 9k and 16k nothing over or under please (I best get looking myself:confused:) Please can everyone do this asap in order for this to be launched very soon:eek: Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Noisy 15,078 Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 Re: 87+ Can people please let me know their in game name so I can invite them to the setup (Friend request Monkeyshuffl and let me know who you are on the forum) ...plus can people choose which team they would like to be (first come first served on this by way of posting on the forum). Remember its grounds between 10k and 12k nothing over or under please (I best get looking myself:confused:) Please can everyone do this asap in order for this to be launched very soon:eek: Thanks stephen partington (noisy2k8 forum) rep 232 gold member Quote Link to post Share on other sites
87+ 2,415 Posted September 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 Re: 87+ Excited to be joining it.Just 1 thing I should add is' date=' I definitely hate the idea of selling when they hit 87+. If you are intelligent enough to find the talent, you shouldnt be put in a position to then sell. Its going to be rare to see a lot of players go that high, at least in the 1st season and it should be a decision by the coach if they sell and use the large sum to reinvest. But I enjoy the unique aspect and will play by the rules.[/quote'] I get what your saying but it would end up just like most other setups if there was no limit and would detract from the need to keep finding new risers to keep your team strong. It would get to a point were teams all have 90+ players loads of money from money spinners and new talents that would take a couple of years at least to get anywhere near peoples first teams. There would be little to do. It would all be pretty predictable on whose going to challenge for the title and who's not and there would be little excitement. This setup has the potential to stay fresh and exciting all the time as it's constantly changing so fast and even if a manager dropped out from the worst team in it a new manager would always have the opportunity (dependant on their scouting) to turn their team into the best team in a relatively short amount of time compared to other setups where this is practically impossible. Yeah season 1 squads will be weak for sure but that will throw up interesting questions for the managers to answer - like do you sell that player who rose to 85 and is now worth 6-7m for much need re-investment or do you keep him as he's a star of your team and could help win you silverware/promotion? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Noisy 15,078 Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 Re: 87+ cant find you ingame under monkeyshuffl. :confused: anyhow my ingame name is above ignore the noisy2k8 bit im now ox in the box. also for my time id like is siena Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Like_A_Boas 8,954 Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 Re: 87+ I voice the same issue as Tonyba. I don't like the idea of finding a riser and then having to sell him when he hits 87. You then try and find players who won't go any higher than 86. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
87+ 2,415 Posted September 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 Re: 87+ Hmm its quite tricky finding a club between 10 -12k especially if theres 16-20 of us doing it! I'm going open it up a little and say between 9-15k Ox in the box feel free to change your team if you like now the restriction has changed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
87+ 2,415 Posted September 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 Re: 87+ Liverpool de Montevideo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mutant 16 Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 Re: 87+ I like the idea of selling the 87+ players. It means the league will stay competitive as everyone will have to keep their teams refreshed and no one becomes a super power. Yes it will be a shame to see a player you've scouted and watched grow have to leave your club. But this will stop people hoarding players or just going for the big names which normally ruins most other leagues. Well it took a while to find a suitable team but I'll pick Muangthong United. (from Thailand, Robbie Fowler played there) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
animattion 509 Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 Re: 87+ In game name Matthew Sampson (179 rep) what teams do we have to choose from? any? 87+ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
87+ 2,415 Posted September 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 Re: 87+ I voice the same issue as Tonyba. I don't like the idea of finding a riser and then having to sell him when he hits 87. You then try and find players who won't go any higher than 86. I'm trying to create something that is very different to the norm and can only really refer you back to my reasoning in my earlier posts/OP. There are plenty of setups out there that cater for finding and keeping the next Messi probably all of the one's that you are in now for example? Iv'e made no secret that this isn't a game world for that. This is meant to be a different challenge to what you have been used too and will only work as intended with the 87+ rule. Believe me Iv'e thought about it a lot. I hope both you and tonyba do decide this is a challenge you would like to be involved in as you were both specifically the kind of player this setup was designed for (people who are really interested in the player rating/riser aspect of SM) No hard feelings if this is not for you though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Noisy 15,078 Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 Re: 87+ Debreceni VSC - Hungary pleasetiny stadium but finished top of the Hungarian league last season with 0 losses and 11points ahead of 2nd so hopefully some nice risers blank squads matey i thought the same thing at first. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
animattion 509 Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 Re: 87+ Id also like to be barcelona B if thats ok? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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