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I don't think height is a valid reason to possibly discard Verratti in English football although he's slightly smaller we've seen a recent Spanish generation of midfielders dominate with the likes of Xavi, Iniesta, David Silva and Mata. And of course one name of around a similar height and that's Paul Scholes.

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What game were u seeing yesterday

Your Forgetting Rooney pass to set Rashford on a run where he got the penalty

Blind was useless, if it wasn't for Bailly at times using his power to clear the ball in the box, 1 time in the game Blind just let the forward spin him and thankfully he took a heavy touch which allowed Bailly to get

2nd goal was down to Schneiderlain, he should of followed the goalscorer and maybe Blind could of came accross

 

 

The same as you were I presume.

 

Regarding Rooney, read my post again, and if that doesn't help, read it a few more times.

 

Blind was far from useless. Whilst Bailly was the more efficient tackler, when tackling (and subsequently charging forward) he often left the game exposed, much like how Smalling has a (bad) habit of doing that. In those instances Blind provided decent cover, and bar that one incident of him being beaten one-on-one, played a very solid game. Bailly and Smalling seems to be a recipe for disaster, as they are both very similar, and it would require a lot of coordination to not leave gaping holes in that central defence. Plus, ideally you'd want to have one CB left footed and the other right footed.

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The same as you were I presume.

 

Regarding Rooney, read my post again, and if that doesn't help, read it a few more times.

 

Blind was far from useless. Whilst Bailly was the more efficient tackler, when tackling (and subsequently charging forward) he often left the game exposed, much like how Smalling has a (bad) habit of doing that. In those instances Blind provided decent cover, and bar that one incident of him being beaten one-on-one, played a very solid game. Bailly and Smalling seems to be a recipe for disaster, as they are both very similar, and it would require a lot of coordination to not leave gaping holes in that central defence. Plus, ideally you'd want to have one CB left footed and the other right footed.

 

Bailly yesterday didn't leave the space exposed, He chose his moments to go forward and tackle and got them all correct

I think Smalling and Bailly would do well, Smalling likes to shout his mouth off, Smalling need to command Bailly, Bailly still young

you last point in bold, I only have to say Rio/Vidic

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Is this "specialist" by any chance defensively inept, offensively mediocre and generally overpriced?

Alaba is superior in every aspect of his game, from his defensive work (which would be self-explanatory as he is predominantly a defender) to his creative input, which sees him play out of defence so often. It is one of the main reasons as to why Bayern are able to play with that one defender less. Play him in a holding midfield role and he'll basically clean up everything in front of the defence, whilst carrying the ball forward in an attacking play.

As for Verratti, he is basically Gattuso and Pirlo combined - the closest player United can get to Roy Keane, who in my opinion was the greatest United midfielder in the Premier League era (not counting Robson as he only spent three years in the Premier League). Moreover, the reason as to why you'd assume PSG wouldn't sell him is because no one has bid for him yet. I'm not so sure they'd be able to hold on to him if a 60-80M offer came knocking.

And as mentioned previously, I don't give a monkeys about marketing, as it does not affect me one bit. I want trophies, not prima donna's. Even so, Manchester United clearly do not need to save up and/or recoup money for this transfer.

Except Alaba isn't superior in every aspect of his game. Alaba is only superior defensively which you would completely expect from a LB/CB/CDM.

Creatively he's not as good as Pogba, he can't dribble like Pogba and I'm sorry but I don't think his passing has as much invention as Pogba which fundamentally is what is lacking at United.

Alaba would be a great addition to United but in isolation his signing would not be as helpful as Pogba IMO. I would love to see both arrive in an ideal world but given the choice it has to be Pogba.

Veratti is not the closest we could get to Roy Keane as currently no player comes close to him. Veratti is a very talented player but how he would cope in the PL concerns me especially if he was surrounded by Schneiderlin, Herrera and Schweiny. IMO we've been lacking physically in the midfield and while Veratti puts himself about reasonably well for a man of his stature he is nowhere near as physically imposing as Keane was or Pogba will be.

The reason no one has bid on him is probably down to his contract which was extended in Feb this year till 2020. Pretty clear sign to me he doesn't want a move and to be honest why would he want a move to United right now? Pogba has family links in Manchester and affection for the area (I'm sure the copious amounts of money help).

Also marketing is at the moment the only reason this current United is one of the highest earning clubs in the world which means we can afford big deals. Bear in mind we've no champions league football this year too!

My issues with the Pogba deal are not about how much money is being spent, pretty safe to say that Untied could pay 2 or 3 times the value and still be good financially. It is more that I feel it is money being spent on a luxury that is neither of the most important position to address nor the best in that particular position.

I know you've come up with the argument of who else is available and Pogba is the best that is available but surely every player has a price. As an example if you went to Real Madrid and offered £150 million for Kroos would they turn it down? Considering they were looking at a decent size clear out until they got the Champions League prize money I'm doubtful.

I know I'm an outsider looking in but I would have thought that a player to clean up in front of the back line, play the ball out from just in front of the back and a player that would unnerve the opposition in terms of physicality a la Ince/Keane/Butt is more of a priority than an attacking player. Something you have plenty of.

Who do United really have that can play that role at present? Schniederlin, Carrick and Blind?

I would say Blind is the best of the lot in that role but he isn't exactly a world beater, certainly not what £100+ million could buy you.

While we have Carrick we have someone who can sit in front of the back 4 and dictate play. What we need is a physical and technical player to bring the ball out of midfield and also do a bit of the defensive work too. This is something Pogba is perfect for.

Also if you feel United need a player who can unnerve physically why on earth would United buy Kroos for £150m surely that would be an even bigger waste!

The fact is that there is no perfect player like Keane out there to come along and fix United but what is out there is a young, strong and technically gifted player who has the potential to dominate games week in week out given the right coaching and direction. While that doesn't instantly fix us it makes us a heck of a lot stronger now and potentially does fix the midfield in the longer term. While there are many players I would love in a United midfield many of them are not available or would not join United but one of them will and I for one, regardless of fee or others opinions am very excited at that prospect and believe that actually the club is bringing in the right player given the options.

Did anyone see Ollie Holt's column this morning? I personally thought he was bang on about the Pogba transfer.

Daily Mail? Unless you think its outstanding I'll give it a miss.

Skimmed through it, and immediately closed the window when the writer compared him [Pogba] to Roy Keane.

Funny how you've kinda done the same with Veratti...

So you can't think of N'Golo Kante?

Kante is 5ft 6 (so not 5ft 5) and a completely different style of player to Veratti. Kante is a work horse who runs for days and could intercept a comet heading to earth. Veratti doesn't have the natural physical traits Kante has. He isn't very quick, doesn't tend to get about like Kante and relies on technique to do well.

I stand by my point that I would expect someone like Veratti to not fix United's problems.

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I don't think height is a valid reason to possibly discard Verratti in English football although he's slightly smaller we've seen a recent Spanish generation of midfielders dominate with the likes of Xavi, Iniesta, David Silva and Mata. And of course one name of around a similar height and that's Paul Scholes.

I'm not discarding him in English football...

We are debating who United should/could sign to solve the midfield problems now. We are only talking about signing one player.

My argument is that currently Manchester United's midfield is lacking height, strength, technical ability to move a ball out of central midfield and a degree of defensive awareness.

if we can only sign one player in CM we need someone reasonably defensively able, physically strong and athletic and technically gifted/ creative.

Now Veratti ticks two of those absolutely but isn't physically strong enough or tall enough to add to United's midfield, which regardless of what you say is very important in PL football unless your entire team is Barcelona or you have other players to compensate...

Paul Scholes is the most gifted English footballer I have ever seen play but he also had an absolute nightmare next to him in Roy Keane for a lot of his career to do the physical side for him. We also had fantastic defenders arguably the best ever around to ensure United had enough to accommodate this little genuis. He is nothing like Veratti as Scholes was a goalscorer and dictator of play the likes of which I doubt England will ever reproduce. So mentioning him as a successful smaller player is completely missing the point. He was slightly taller than Veratti and unquestionably a far superior player.

Veratti is 5ft 5 no PL player has succeeded in CM that is his height. They have all been slightly taller and it does make a difference.

I am in no way saying Veratti is a bad player or that he couldn't succeed but I am saying he would not sort out United's problems on his own. I have more faith that Pogba, a player with the 3 criterion I outlined above, could do so.

Let me be even clearer. If I can only pick one of Pogba, Veratti, Alaba or Kroos to join United, Pogba is number 1 as he ticks the boxes and offers marketability.

If however I get to choose 2/3 players then Alaba, Pogba, and Kroos/Veratti would be my preference.

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I'm not discarding him in English football...

We are debating who United should/could sign to solve the midfield problems now. We are only talking about signing one player.

My argument is that currently Manchester United's midfield is lacking height, strength, technical ability to move a ball out of central midfield and a degree of defensive awareness.

if we can only sign one player in CM we need someone reasonably defensively able, physically strong and athletic and technically gifted/ creative.

Now Veratti ticks two of those absolutely but isn't physically strong enough or tall enough to add to United's midfield, which regardless of what you say is very important in PL football unless your entire team is Barcelona or you have other players to compensate...

Paul Scholes is the most gifted English footballer I have ever seen play but he also had an absolute nightmare next to him in Roy Keane for a lot of his career to do the physical side for him. We also had fantastic defenders arguably the best ever around to ensure United had enough to accommodate this little genuis. He is nothing like Veratti as Scholes was a goalscorer and dictator of play the likes of which I doubt England will ever reproduce. So mentioning him as a successful smaller player is completely missing the point. He was slightly taller than Veratti and unquestionably a far superior player.

Veratti is 5ft 5 no PL player has succeeded in CM that is his height. They have all been slightly taller and it does make a difference.

I am in no way saying Veratti is a bad player or that he couldn't succeed but I am saying he would not sort out United's problems on his own. I have more faith that Pogba, a player with the 3 criterion I outlined above, could do so.

Let me be even clearer. If I can only pick one of Pogba, Veratti, Alaba or Kroos to join United, Pogba is number 1 as he ticks the boxes and offers marketability.

If however I get to choose 2/3 players then Alaba, Pogba, and Kroos/Veratti would be my preference.

 

I agree what u said but want to add a few things

 

Man United also missing in Midfield is aerial threat which Pogba brings, shocking according to stats only Carrick out of the whole United Midfield was close to Pogba aerial duels of last year

Scholes height is 168cm, Kante is 169cm and Verratti 165cm also Scholes(70kg) and Kante(69kg) overweighs Verratti(60kg)

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Let's shift the discussion to another potential transfer.

 

Mou's looking for an experienced CB, so who would you lot suggest?

 

I would personally look at Jose Fonte and Ashley Williams, experienced PL defenders. They may be underwhelming to some fans but not me. 

 

However my favourite would be Shkodran Mustafi, if we can get him for his rumoured price of 25mil, which is a real bargain. Only 24 but he is experienced enough. Dream signing since we can't get Manolas or Bonucci. 

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Let's shift the discussion to another potential transfer.

 

Mou's looking for an experienced CB, so who would you lot suggest?

 

I would personally look at Jose Fonte and Ashley Williams, experienced PL defenders. They may be underwhelming to some fans but not me. 

 

However my favourite would be Shkodran Mustafi, if we can get him for his rumoured price of 25mil, which is a real bargain. Only 24 but he is experienced enough. Dream signing since we can't get Manolas or Bonucci. 

 

Don't see the point TBH as he spend £30mil on Bailly and must play him as Mourinho thinks he like a Varane

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Let's shift the discussion to another potential transfer.

Mou's looking for an experienced CB, so who would you lot suggest?

I would personally look at Jose Fonte and Ashley Williams, experienced PL defenders. They may be underwhelming to some fans but not me.

However my favourite would be Shkodran Mustafi, if we can get him for his rumoured price of 25mil, which is a real bargain. Only 24 but he is experienced enough. Dream signing since we can't get Manolas or Bonucci.

It might sound silly but if we just want experience I wouldn't mind Ashley Williams as a back up/ bit of experience. He did a very good job for Wales at the Euros and has been fairly consistent now.

Mustafi for me is not someone I would desperately want tbh. I think we've got enough younger players now in defence and so the only reason to sign anyone new is for experience or high quality. Currently IMO he has neither despite statistically being a top performer.

I wouldn't having thought about it actually want Manolas but Bonucci would be my muppet signing.

I think really there isn't much available at the moment. I wouldn't have minded Stones but Mourinho doesn't seem keen anymore and with Bailly, Smalling, Blind and Jones we have a decent set of players. Plus I'd rather we give some promising academy players a chance like Axel Tuanzebe.

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Except Alaba isn't superior in every aspect of his game. Alaba is only superior defensively which you would completely expect from a LB/CB/CDM.

Creatively he's not as good as Pogba, he can't dribble like Pogba and I'm sorry but I don't think his passing has as much invention as Pogba which fundamentally is what is lacking at United.

Alaba would be a great addition to United but in isolation his signing would not be as helpful as Pogba IMO. I would love to see both arrive in an ideal world but given the choice it has to be Pogba.

Veratti is not the closest we could get to Roy Keane as currently no player comes close to him. Veratti is a very talented player but how he would cope in the PL concerns me especially if he was surrounded by Schneiderlin, Herrera and Schweiny. IMO we've been lacking physically in the midfield and while Veratti puts himself about reasonably well for a man of his stature he is nowhere near as physically imposing as Keane was or Pogba will be.

The reason no one has bid on him is probably down to his contract which was extended in Feb this year till 2020. Pretty clear sign to me he doesn't want a move and to be honest why would he want a move to United right now? Pogba has family links in Manchester and affection for the area (I'm sure the copious amounts of money help).

Also marketing is at the moment the only reason this current United is one of the highest earning clubs in the world which means we can afford big deals. Bear in mind we've no champions league football this year too!

While we have Carrick we have someone who can sit in front of the back 4 and dictate play. What we need is a physical and technical player to bring the ball out of midfield and also do a bit of the defensive work too. This is something Pogba is perfect for.

Also if you feel United need a player who can unnerve physically why on earth would United buy Kroos for £150m surely that would be an even bigger waste!

The fact is that there is no perfect player like Keane out there to come along and fix United but what is out there is a young, strong and technically gifted player who has the potential to dominate games week in week out given the right coaching and direction. While that doesn't instantly fix us it makes us a heck of a lot stronger now and potentially does fix the midfield in the longer term. While there are many players I would love in a United midfield many of them are not available or would not join United but one of them will and I for one, regardless of fee or others opinions am very excited at that prospect and believe that actually the club is bringing in the right player given the options.

Daily Mail? Unless you think its outstanding I'll give it a miss.

Funny how you've kinda done the same with Veratti...

Kante is 5ft 6 (so not 5ft 5) and a completely different style of player to Veratti. Kante is a work horse who runs for days and could intercept a comet heading to earth. Veratti doesn't have the natural physical traits Kante has. He isn't very quick, doesn't tend to get about like Kante and relies on technique to do well.

I stand by my point that I would expect someone like Veratti to not fix United's problems.

 

If you re read my post I never said you should buy Kroos! It's an example of a player that might seem unattainable until a large amount of money is added into the equation.

 

Fair enough, I still don't think it is the best buy/option. his game doesn't seem to be best suited to the needs you have described, in the vast majority of big games he has been involved in he hasn't exactly shone either.

 

Hope it works out for United though and I get to eat some humble pie at the end of the season. The Premier League could do with the top teams being some of the most competitive in the world game again.

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If you re read my post I never said you should buy Kroos! It's an example of a player that might seem unattainable until a large amount of money is added into the equation.

Fair enough, I still don't think it is the best buy/option. his game doesn't seem to be best suited to the needs you have described, in the vast majority of big games he has been involved in he hasn't exactly shone either.

Hope it works out for United though and I get to eat some humble pie at the end of the season. The Premier League could do with the top teams being some of the most competitive in the world game again.

The context of you post is who is the best available. By suggesting what would happen if United offered £150m for Kroos it is perfectly reasonable for me to assume you rate him as a better player and therefore better fit.

Out of interest who do you think is the best suited in football right now (don't worry about availability)?

And then if you don't mind who do you think is the best available option?

Just throwing it out there Pogba was in the FIFA World

XI this year along with Modric and Iniesta. That to me says quite a lot.

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The context of you post is who is the best available. By suggesting what would happen if United offered £150m for Kroos it is perfectly reasonable for me to assume you rate him as a better player and therefore better fit.

Out of interest who do you think is the best suited in football right now (don't worry about availability)?

And then if you don't mind who do you think is the best available option?

Just throwing it out there Pogba was in the FIFA World

XI this year along with Modric and Iniesta. That to me says quite a lot.

best cm's about right now are modric, kroos and Vidal, pogba is the best available and has bags of potential not worth £100m but that's the market, the fifa world XI is more of a popularity contest rather than those who actually deserve to be there, i remember david luiz being in their just the year before i think.

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best cm's about right now are modric, kroos and Vidal, pogba is the best available and has bags of potential not worth £100m but that's the market, the fifa world XI is more of a popularity contest rather than those who actually deserve to be there, i remember david luiz being in their just the year before i think.

I'd certainly agree with Modric off that list.

I also agree Pogba is the best available option. This is part of the problem I have with people who suggest we could do better for £100m. I genuinely cannot think of another player who would feasibly join us for that fee and be as good as if not better than Pogba.

I don't think you can completely dismiss it as a popularity contest, I see it as an indication of how the footballing world views the talent available.

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I'd certainly agree with Modric off that list.

I also agree Pogba is the best available option. This is part of the problem I have with people who suggest we could do better for £100m. I genuinely cannot think of another player who would feasibly join us for that fee and be as good as if not better than Pogba.

I don't think you can completely dismiss it as a popularity contest, I see it as an indication of how the footballing world views the talent available.

 

Had the weekend off here as it was doing my head in, but this post I particularly liked.

 

Firstly, anything to do with FIFA, Bal D'Or, FIFA XI is a completely & utterly a popularity contest, its flawed and corrupt to the core (hopefully they sort themselves out).

 

I also like this post because you don't try and justify the £100m+, but you specify about best option available. Now whoever you are, unless you are Talentsearcher of course, cannot try & justify that money being spent on a player other than maybe one of M.S.N. There are 20+ players better than Pogba in the world currently but you are right when you say majority are not available compared to Pogba (although players like Krychowiak, Kante, Gundogan, Pjanic have all moved in this window too). My worry is what this fee will do to future transfer fees.

 

That kind of money being spent on not the best player in the world is criminal, it just is.. but Pogba is the best player available at this very moment and that's the money Juve want and what it will cost for Utd to get him due to the English transfer market inflation.

 

This has been one of the worst transfer saga's of recent years, not helped by Adidas or his agent granted. If he moves to Utd then good luck to him - hopefully it will be a good thing for the PL but at that price there is so so much pressure, it will only be worth it if Utd win the quad & then CL next season.

 

Now off the topic of him, loved Ibra's goal although it was totally fluffed, and great to see Valencia produce the goods!

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The height topic is an interesting one. While not exactly the same height as Verratti I consider Makelele, Kante, Scholes, Alexis Sanchez, Santi Cazorla, Juninho & Zola all pretty successful.

 

In terms of aerial ability, Pogba is useful in the box (offensively) but that is often down to systems employed by defending teams. In 1-vs-1 situations say from a goal kick he is inexplicably poor.

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I've used marketability as a reason for the Pogba transfer but I still agree it doesn't justify a crazy price tag and as others have said their are better central midfielders out there as Ashtini pointed out midfielders who have already moved in this window, but a player is worth what a club will pay and in recent years united's desperation has caused them to overpay on nearly every single player they've brought. Pogba is only 23, he's a statement signing and he's a massive improvement on what United currently have, with his confidence, arrogance and talent I can't see the pressure bothering him. I don't think the price tag is bad in united's book they can easily afford it and I have a huge faith in Ed Woodward to continue marketing and making money and using Pogba to make a lot of it and also the possibility of prices rising hugely in the next few years and potentially selling Pogba in a few years time and actually making profit but I think the problem will be as others have said is how will this effect signings in the next few years because in recent years clubs have paid big money for goalscorers and looking at someone like Dybala who's a young talent with a good goal scoring record who Juve already paid a pretty big fee for, I'm sure in a couple of years a team like Madrid possibly or even an English team would want him and who's to say Juve would let him go cheaper than Pogba? You've also got 'paper talk' of Everton standing firm on wanting 75m for Lukaku and 50m for Stones so I guess potentially in a few years the 100m barrier could be broken nearly every major transfer signing.

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If Lukaku is worth 75mil then Pogba is definitely worth 100mil. 

If Evans is worth 18mil then Pogba is definitely a bargain.

 

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Moyes talks about his interest in Fellaini and Januzaj. Smart move from Utd would be to sell Fellaini (and keep Schweini) for about 15-20mil, we'll obviously make a loss on him but best to lessen it. I'd also loan Januzaj to Sunderland or sell with a buy-back clause (e.g. Jordan Ibe). Could be good business for the club. 

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Had the weekend off here as it was doing my head in, but this post I particularly liked.

 

Firstly, anything to do with FIFA, Bal D'Or, FIFA XI is a completely & utterly a popularity contest, its flawed and corrupt to the core (hopefully they sort themselves out).

 

I also like this post because you don't try and justify the £100m+, but you specify about best option available. Now whoever you are, unless you are Talentsearcher of course, cannot try & justify that money being spent on a player other than maybe one of M.S.N. There are 20+ players better than Pogba in the world currently but you are right when you say majority are not available compared to Pogba (although players like Krychowiak, Kante, Gundogan, Pjanic have all moved in this window too). My worry is what this fee will do to future transfer fees.

 

That kind of money being spent on not the best player in the world is criminal, it just is.. but Pogba is the best player available at this very moment and that's the money Juve want and what it will cost for Utd to get him due to the English transfer market inflation.

 

This has been one of the worst transfer saga's of recent years, not helped by Adidas or his agent granted. If he moves to Utd then good luck to him - hopefully it will be a good thing for the PL but at that price there is so so much pressure, it will only be worth it if Utd win the quad & then CL next season.

 

Now off the topic of him, loved Ibra's goal although it was totally fluffed, and great to see Valencia produce the goods!

 

Like I said I don't think you can completely dismiss a list like that as being purely popularity. Messi, Ronaldo, Modric etc quite clearly there on merit so why not Pogba?

The thing is would Krychowiak, Kante, Gundogan and Pjanic all be an improvement on Pogba? I'd argue not. Krychowiak is a DM (someone I admire nonetheless), Kante hasn't got the height United lack in midfield, Gundogan is another potential injury problem and Pjanic doesn't strike me as world class or even potentially world class.

I completely understand that Pogba the footballer is not worth £100m in terms of current talent. I would say you could comfortably in today's market have argued £50-60m and then anything North of £75m being too steep but he is the best available player United can buy in terms of ability, age, marketability and potential and I appreciate that you understand that as many have almost refused to accept that.

I am however fed up of this saga. I think it peaked around a week ago and now I'm just a bit bored of it. I know it's part of Adidas' advertising campaign and designed to build brand Pogba but it's ran its course now.

The Zlatan goal was a fluff but he tried it and it went in. You've got to admire him for doing that 3mins into his debut.

Valencia was stunning!

 

The height topic is an interesting one. While not exactly the same height as Verratti I consider Makelele, Kante, Scholes, Alexis Sanchez, Santi Cazorla, Juninho & Zola all pretty successful.

 

In terms of aerial ability, Pogba is useful in the box (offensively) but that is often down to systems employed by defending teams. In 1-vs-1 situations say from a goal kick he is inexplicably poor.

Only Makele, Scholes and Kante are/were CMs and with those 3 you'll notice that they were either in physically able sides or aggressive sides. Also Makelele and Kante are much more mobile and athletic than Veratti and Scholes let's be honest is a freak of nature. I'm paraphrasing but Neville got it spot on "He's 5ft 6, ginger and asthmatic."

  

I've used marketability as a reason for the Pogba transfer but I still agree it doesn't justify a crazy price tag and as others have said their are better central midfielders out there as Ashtini pointed out midfielders who have already moved in this window, but a player is worth what a club will pay and in recent years united's desperation has caused them to overpay on nearly every single player they've brought. Pogba is only 23, he's a statement signing and he's a massive improvement on what United currently have, with his confidence, arrogance and talent I can't see the pressure bothering him. I don't think the price tag is bad in united's book they can easily afford it and I have a huge faith in Ed Woodward to continue marketing and making money and using Pogba to make a lot of it and also the possibility of prices rising hugely in the next few years and potentially selling Pogba in a few years time and actually making profit but I think the problem will be as others have said is how will this effect signings in the next few years because in recent years clubs have paid big money for goalscorers and looking at someone like Dybala who's a young talent with a good goal scoring record who Juve already paid a pretty big fee for, I'm sure in a couple of years a team like Madrid possibly or even an English team would want him and who's to say Juve would let him go cheaper than Pogba? You've also got 'paper talk' of Everton standing firm on wanting 75m for Lukaku and 50m for Stones so I guess potentially in a few years the 100m barrier could be broken nearly every major transfer signing.

If Pogba helps bring in more investment than his £100m fee then he is worth it. He is not £100m worth of footballing talent but you can't say United won't make a lot of if not more of that fee back off him.

The thing is we were always heading towards this level of investment. I don't think that we'll see loads of £100m deals for a long while though as its a lot of money and realistically only 4/5 clubs could throw that money into one player. I don't see many clubs being in the position United are in, that of being in need of a statement player potentially world class without CL football etc.

  

If Lukaku is worth 75mil then Pogba is definitely worth 100mil. 

If Evans is worth 18mil then Pogba is definitely a bargain.

 

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Moyes talks about his interest in Fellaini and Januzaj. Smart move from Utd would be to sell Fellaini (and keep Schweini) for about 15-20mil, we'll obviously make a loss on him but best to lessen it. I'd also loan Januzaj to Sunderland or sell with a buy-back clause (e.g. Jordan Ibe). Could be good business for the club.

The thing is Lukaku can give you a very obvious return on investment. As a striker if he scores 20+ goals in the league or 30+ in all comps then nobody would argue he was a bad signing. With Pogba being a midfielder it's hard to come up with stats to silence everyone so even if he say got 10 goals and 10 assists many people would be unhappy even if he was contributing in other ways.

Having said that Lukaku is not worth £75m as he's at best a £40m striker and he's not marketable enough to add on another £35m.

I don't care anymore what the club do with Fellaini but Januzaj I'd rather loan.

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seriously guys, it'd be hard to start justifying 90% of the transfer fees being paid right about now, if you want a decent young player you're looking at about 30m, you want the better ones out there you're looking at 50m+ that's the market off the top of my head there have only been a few top class players who have gone for reasonable prices,kante,pjanic,mkhitaryan that's just off the top of my head all three have very differing cases but all relatively cheap in comparison to other players who have moved i think the best example is Milik who going to Napoli for about 30m, there are so many different factors when considering the price of the player that you guys clearly don't take into account, if Chelsea went in and paid 100m for Pogba i'd be over the moon 

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As Ashtini said my name, I might as well type

 

I never said Pogba worth £100mil but that stats I did etc shows he is up their with Modric, Kroos etc. Ashtini if he's not in the top 20 in the world, why were Barcelona, PSG and Real Madrid(strongly) linked with him, That must show something.

As Real Madrid were strongly linked, United needed to put in an offer that would blow away Real Madrid as United has no CL

 

Also this makes a statement to the other teams in England, Shows United can sign the big players plus Pogba can go down as a Homegrown player

 

if Chelsea went in and paid 100m for Pogba i'd be over the moon 

 

Cvilhete, You beat me to it as I was gonna ask Ashtini that, If Chelsea had a clear path to signing Pogba for £100mil, would you buy?

 

Like I keep saying, nowadays its Club Power as Clubs will slap crazy money on their stars to keep hold of them

 

Other news

McNair getting interest from 4 clubs, 2 being Middlesbrough and Celtic

Fellaini to Sunderland

Januzaj accordingly wants to be sold rather than loan

Schweinsteiger has Milan clubs fighting if he lower his wage demands

Roma interested in Darmain

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last time Mourinho went out and got the players he wanted in early, his team walked the league..

 

Mourinho likes doing Business early and he had time to look at United and their situation, only thing is he hasn't sold

Better than Chelsea, who Conte said wanted 4/5 more players, Arsenal as their fans want a striker but he looking at CB but probably just looking, City crashing down to reality and Pep finding it hard to sign

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