germlad 2,273 Report post Posted December 29, 2012 Re: The Squad Advice Thread Also' date=' I'd love some input on the moves I've already made in my first few weeks, any obvious moves I should make either getting rid of players on my current team (I'm planning on offloading Abidal as soon as I get enough $ to send him out and get a good young CB in return, any ideas who that should be? I was thinking Dede, Papadopolous, or Hummels) or players I should be going after. Thanks in advance for all your help, this is quite the daunting game to try and get into, but I'm loving it so far![/quote']The only obvious you should sell is Abidal, and if you have the chance to exchange him for Hummels that would be a fantastic deal for you! Out of your youth, IMO you could get rid of Espinosa, Femenia Kiko and Westwood (after he rises). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PacoBJuarez 10 Report post Posted December 29, 2012 Re: The Squad Advice Thread The only obvious you should sell is Abidal' date=' and if you have the chance to exchange him for Hummels that would be a fantastic deal for you! Out of your youth, IMO you could get rid of Espinosa, Femenia Kiko and Westwood (after he rises).[/quote'] Thanks! I have Abidal transfer-listed, I'm hoping an offer comes in soon. If not I can do a straight swap of Abidal and around 14 million for Hummels, but if I can sell Abidal outright I can buy Hummels for 19 million, and I can probably sell Abidal for around 8-9 million, so it would save me 3-4 million if I can sell Abidal first before getting Hummels. I went ahead and recalled Espinosa and Kiko from loan, put them up for transfer. Thanks again for the advice! After I get Hummels, who should I be targeting? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyina 9,758 Report post Posted December 29, 2012 Re: The Squad Advice Thread Hey guys' date=' I've got a Barcelona squad in a league that just started up (only 7 turns in) and this is my first experience with Soccer Manager. I was hoping for a little guidance/help on where to go from here and what I should be looking at long-term, as I'm just flying by the seat of my pants here. It's a little overwhelming. I've made some moves already, here's my team:[u']Keepers[/u] 93 Neuer 87 ter Stegen Defenders 96 Puyol -> 94/5 96 Vidic -> 94/5 95 Pique 95 Alves 94 Busquets 93 Mascherano 92 Abidal -> 90 90 Alba 86 Montoya Midfielders 97 Iniesta 97 Xavi 95 Fabregas 93 Pedro 92 Alexis Sanchez 90 Afellay (on loan, started that way, won't allow me to bring him back ) 89 Thiago 86 Cuenca 86 Oxlade-Chamberlain Forwards 99 Messi 96 Ibra ->95 95 Villa ->94 PE off the bolded ones who will most likely drop Here's my youth team, all loaned out: Keepers None... that's okay mate Defenders 86 Jesus Juan 86 Andreu Fontas 85 Marc Bartra 84 Matija Nastasic 84 Carles Planas 84 Marc Muniesa 82 Sergi Gomez 77 Karim Rekik 75 Luke Shaw 75 Alejandro Grimaldo 75 Ibrahima Mbaye 75 Koray Gunter 75 Frank Bagnack 75 Gabarron Patric 72 Ashley Westwood Defensive Midfielders 85 Paul Pogba 75 Agostinho Ca 75 Luis Gustavo Midfielders 85 Sergi Roberto 85 Femenia Kiko 83 Rafinha Alcantara 80 Ross Barkley 78 Javi Espinosa 75 James Ward-Prowse Attacking Midfielders 85 Cristian Tello 83 Gerard Deulofeu 78 Jody Lukoki 77 Baptistao Leo 75 Raheem Sterling 75 Miguel Angel 75 Serge Gnabry 75 Lucas Paizon 75 Jordan Ibe 75 Alen Halilovic 60 Jeroen Lumu Forwards 83 Lozano Rodri 75 Jean Marie Dongou 75 Hervin Ongenda 75 Souleymane Coulibaly I'd keep the ones underlined, sell any of the rest if you want Also, I'd love some input on the moves I've already made in my first few weeks, any obvious moves I should make either getting rid of players on my current team (I'm planning on offloading Abidal as soon as I get enough $ to send him out and get a good young CB in return, any ideas who that should be? I was thinking Dede, Papadopolous, or Hummels) or players I should be going after. Thanks in advance for all your help, this is quite the daunting game to try and get into, but I'm loving it so far! Abidal for any of those would be great, especially Hummels! Do it quick as Barce will be reviewed soon You're welcome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyina 9,758 Report post Posted December 29, 2012 Re: The Squad Advice Thread Thanks! I have Abidal transfer-listed' date=' I'm hoping an offer comes in soon. If not I can do a straight swap of Abidal and around 14 million for Hummels, but if I can sell Abidal outright I can buy Hummels for 19 million, and I can probably sell Abidal for around 8-9 million, so it would save me 3-4 million if I can sell Abidal first before getting Hummels. I went ahead and recalled Espinosa and Kiko from loan, put them up for transfer. Thanks again for the advice!After I get Hummels, who should I be targeting?[/quote'] Well who is available? Anything worth mentioning and we'll help you decide who to buy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PacoBJuarez 10 Report post Posted December 29, 2012 Re: The Squad Advice Thread Well who is available? Anything worth mentioning and we'll help you decide who to buy Everyone is available, the world was just created. Only a few teams in La Liga are owned, so it's pretty much wide open. That makes it even more daunting for me, because there are so many options out there. Are there some obvious must-haves that I could save up for so that I don't make any stupid mistakes? Also, I'm assuming PE means player exchange? And if so, I'm going to need replacements in my starting lineup for Puyol, Vidic, and Ibra... and Villa rotates in as well. That's four players I would need to replace who are are the very best at their positions. I know I'm new, which is probably why I'm confused, but could you maybe explain in a little detail why it would be good to get rid of them, especially when even if they drop a bit they're still either the best or among the best at their position? EDIT: I've been running my team under the assumption that I'm just going to try and make sure to have the very best at every spot at all times in the starting lineup, while buying young risers and stars to fill in as backups and loaned out youths. Am I going about this with the wrong mindset? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyina 9,758 Report post Posted December 29, 2012 Re: The Squad Advice Thread Everyone is available' date=' the world was just created. Only a few teams in La Liga are owned, so it's pretty much wide open. That makes it even more daunting for me, because there are so many options out there. Are there some obvious must-haves that I could save up for so that I don't make any stupid mistakes?Also, I'm assuming PE means player exchange? And if so, I'm going to need replacements in my starting lineup for Puyol, Vidic, and Ibra... and Villa rotates in as well. That's four players I would need to replace who are are the very best at their positions. I know I'm new, which is probably why I'm confused, but could you maybe explain in a little detail why it would be good to get rid of them, especially when even if they drop a bit they're still either the best or among the best at their position?[/quote'] If they drop, their values will decrease dramatically as they are quite old, from ~30mill now to maybe as little as 14-17mill if they drop to 94. Thus their re-sale value will plummet and you won't be able to get as much out of them then. Well just from one of my teams: GK: Courtois, Unnerstall, Butland LBs: Marcelo, Alba, Alaba, Bertrand RBs: Ivanovic, Raphael, Walker, Piszczek, Jenkinson, De Sciglio CBs: Hummels, Ramos, Subotic, Kompany, Martinez, Vidal, Zouma, CMs: Gundogen, Verratti, Koke, Marchisio, Fabregas, AMs: Gotze, Mata, Hazard, Oscar, Lucas Moura, David Silva, Neymar, Reus, Ozil, Bernard, El Shaarawy, Draxler, Kovacic, Insigne, Powell, Fwds: Falcao, RVP, Rooney, Aguero, Cavani, Destro Hummels Any of those, probably missed a dozen great names but did this in a rush, also might have listed a few players you already have, bad memory Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anri 8,068 Report post Posted December 29, 2012 Re: The Squad Advice Thread Fwds: Falcao' date=' RVP, Rooney, Aguero, Cavani, Destro [b']Hummels[/b] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PacoBJuarez 10 Report post Posted December 29, 2012 Re: The Squad Advice Thread If they drop' date=' their values will decrease dramatically as they are quite old, from ~30mill now to maybe as little as 14-17mill if they drop to 94. Thus their re-sale value will plummet and you won't be able to get as much out of them then.Well just from one of my teams: GK: Courtois, Unnerstall, Butland LBs: Marcelo, Alba, Alaba, Bertrand RBs: Ivanovic, Raphael, Walker, Piszczek, Jenkinson, De Sciglio CBs: Hummels, Ramos, Subotic, Kompany, Martinez, Vidal, Zouma, CMs: Gundogen, Verratti, Koke, Marchisio, Fabregas, AMs: Gotze, Mata, Hazard, Oscar, Lucas Moura, David Silva, Neymar, Reus, Ozil, Bernard, El Shaarawy, Draxler, Kovacic, Insigne, Powell, Fwds: Falcao, RVP, Rooney, Aguero, Cavani, Destro Hummels Any of those, probably missed a dozen great names but did this in a rush, also might have listed a few players you already have, bad memory [/quote'] Fair enough, I didn't realize their values would drop so drastically so quickly. Since right now I have the only four defenders rated 95 or 96 (Vidic, Puyol, Pique, Alves) and I need to get rid of Vidic and Puyol, who should my two replacements be since I still need extremely good, high-rated players in my starting lineup to compete? Logic would tell me Kompany and Hummels... would those be your first two choices as well? I can be fine with my back three being Pique, Kompany, and Hummels with backups of Masch, Alba, and Montoya. Or maybe get someone else to play over Montoya until he rises. Disclaimer: I'm OCD, so unfortunately I do have an obsession with having the best. It's my undoing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyina 9,758 Report post Posted December 29, 2012 Re: The Squad Advice Thread Oops!!!!!!!!!!!:p Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PacoBJuarez 10 Report post Posted December 29, 2012 Re: The Squad Advice Thread Or maybe Bale? I could do Kompany, Pique, and Bale as my back three with Hummels, Masch, and Alba as my backups... I like the sound of that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mud4554r 115 Report post Posted December 31, 2012 Re: The Squad Advice Thread Please guys can you tell me which of my youngsters will rise and by how much? BUTLAND, Jack - KELLY, Martin - WILLEMS, Jetro WILSON, Danny - ROBINSON, Jack - WANYAMA, Victor D,DM© - COATES, Sebastián - ZOUMA, Kurt - WISDOM, Andre - COADY, Conor - FLANAGAN, John - ALLEN, Joe DM,M© CLASIE, Jordy - MAHER, Adam XHAKA, Granit - SHELVEY, Jonjo - MERKEL, Alexander - VILHENA, Tonny - ISCO, Alarcón - LABYAD, Zakaria - MUSA, Ahmed - KOVAČIĆ, Mateo - USAMI, Takashi - ITURBE, Juan - FREI, Kerim PACHECO, Dani - ADRYAN, Tavares - IBE, Jordon - STERLING, Raheem - SUSO, Fernández - TANNANE, Oussama BORINI, Fabio F(RLC) - MUKENDI, Henoc F(RLC) - SINCLAIR, Jerome - MURIEL, Luis - BENTEKE, Christian - BIJEV, Villyan - YEŞIL, Samed - MORGAN, Adam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duncan 7,707 Report post Posted December 31, 2012 Re: The Squad Advice Thread Please guys can you tell me which of my youngsters will rise and by how much?BUTLAND' date=' Jack Rise +2 but isnt that good - KELLY, Martin +1 - WILLEMS, Jetro +3 WILSON, Danny stay - ROBINSON, Jack stay - WANYAMA, Victor D,DM© - COATES, Sebastián +1 - ZOUMA, Kurt +2 already been reviewed - WISDOM, Andre +8 - COADY, Conor +2 - FLANAGAN, John stay - ALLEN, Joe DM,M© +1/2 CLASIE, Jordy +1/2 - MAHER, Adam +1/2 XHAKA, Granit +1 - SHELVEY, Jonjo +3 - MERKEL, Alexander +2 already been reviewed - VILHENA, Tonny +6ish - ISCO, Alarcón +2 - LABYAD, Zakaria stay - MUSA, Ahmed +2/3 - KOVAČIĆ, Mateo +1 already been reviewed - USAMI, Takashi - ITURBE, Juan +2 ish - FREI, Kerim +2/3 PACHECO, Dani stay - ADRYAN, Tavares +4/5 already been reviewed - IBE, Jordon +4 - STERLING, Raheem +8 - SUSO, Fernández +5 - TANNANE, Oussama +7 BORINI, Fabio F(RLC) +1 - MUKENDI, Henoc F(RLC) +3/4 - SINCLAIR, Jerome stay - MURIEL, Luis stay already been reviewed - BENTEKE, Christian +2 - BIJEV, Villyan +4/5 - YEŞIL, Samed +3/4 - MORGAN, Adam +1/2[/quote'] These are very rough estimates, may differ by 1 rating or so 2 rawket and Hyina reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FabregasLegend 505 Report post Posted December 31, 2012 Re: The Squad Advice Thread What would you do with a new bayern? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duncan 7,707 Report post Posted December 31, 2012 Re: The Squad Advice Thread What would you do with a new bayern? Sell Tymoschuk' date=' Starke, Van Buyten, Rafinha, Pizarro. Swap Robben and Ribery. Buy some good youn players and one or two 90+ players [/color'] 1 FabregasLegend reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyina 9,758 Report post Posted December 31, 2012 Re: The Squad Advice Thread Lol: Rooney + Eto'o + Tevex + Gomez + Sanchez for Messi and Busquets Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyina 9,758 Report post Posted December 31, 2012 Re: The Squad Advice Thread What would you do with a new bayern? Sell Tymoschuk' date=' Starke, Van Buyten, Rafinha, Pizarro. Swap Robben and Ribery. Buy some good youn players and one or two 90+ players [/color'] I'd do what he said but keep Ribery... Are you in a German Championship or World Championship? If German then I'd pe off lots more players as you can get better from externals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tiago7 10 Report post Posted December 31, 2012 Re: The Squad Advice Thread Keepers Neuer , Tom Stark , Riedmuller . Defenders Lahm , Badstuber , Alaba , Ivanovic , Javi Martinez , Van Buyten , Dante , Rafinha . Midfielders Schweinsteiger , Modric , Kroos , Ribery , Robben , Shaqiri , Tymoschuk . Forwards Mandzukic , Mario Gomez , Fernando Torres , Pizzaro. What sector I should improve ? What tactics I should use ? Do you recommend me any player ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Good Dr. Shame 738 Report post Posted January 1, 2013 Re: The Squad Advice Thread Neuer ' date=' Tom Stark , Riedmuller .Lahm , Badstuber , Alaba , Ivanovic , Javi Martinez , Van Buyten , Dante , Rafinha . Schweinsteiger , Modric , Kroos , Ribery , Robben , Shaqiri , Tymoschuk . Forwards Mandzukic , Mario Gomez , Fernando Torres , Pizzaro. What sector I should improve ? What tactics I should use ? Do you recommend me any player ?[/quote'] Improve: 4th-string striker, acquire more DMs, 2nd-string DM, overall squad age, and get that dink Modric out of there (for a DM/CB). Players: Hummels in for Modric + Tymoschuk/Pizzaro, bring in someone like Michu, Zaha, Van Wolfswinkel, Lukaku, Bendtner, Gameiro, anyone who won't mind too much, getting 5 - 15 starts per season, has room to improve, kicks at least some artse already. DMs? Know any good DMs? Of course you do. Get them. Make one of them Mats Hummels. Yoots? Know any good yoots? Bring your top 5 of them in. Maybe try for Varane, Veratti, Suso, De Rhin, Okore, Umtiti, Chiriches, Digne... just look at my signature. All those are very smart ideas. XI's Age? Robben might be worth something like Oscar (fingers crossed) and Luiz (fair deal), but he could also go for someone like Pedro (good idea) if you up the price. Ribery? Keep him until he retires. Neuer? Same. Where's Boateng? Can you get him back? Tactics: 4-2-3-1 Very defensive. Slow tempo. Men behind ball. Work the rest around your opponent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tiago7 10 Report post Posted January 1, 2013 Re: The Squad Advice Thread Thiago silva for mario gomez and badstuber .. do I acept that The Good Dr. Shame ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FabregasLegend 505 Report post Posted January 1, 2013 Re: The Squad Advice Thread Thiago silva for mario gomez and badstuber .. do I acept that The Good Dr. Shame ? I don't think thats a good deal. Gomez is back from injury now and argubly deserved a 94 rating. Badstuber is injured but first choice for club and country, in a team like bayern their peak rating is high. Thiago will stay at 94 even if PSG achieve something. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FabregasLegend 505 Report post Posted January 1, 2013 Re: The Squad Advice Thread Sell Tymoschuk' date=' Starke, Van Buyten, Rafinha, Pizarro. Swap Robben and Ribery. Buy some good youn players and one or two 90+ players [/color'] We had similar thoughts, but I wanted a second opinion. so far IN: M'vila, Damiao, Falcao, Cavani, Isco, Dede, Bernard + risers. OUT: Gomez, Contento, Starke, Rafinha, Dante, Robben, Gustavo, Van buyten, Pizarro, tymoschuk. I could still trade out Lahm, Ribery, Schweinstiger. Though alot of managers are not playing ball for two for one trades. Squad Neuer 93 Lahm 94, Badstuber 91, Boateng 90, Dede 90 Ribery 95, Schweinstiger 94, Muller 93, J.Martinez 91, M'vila 91, Kroos 90, Shaqiri 89, Alaba 88, Isco 87, Bernard 87 Cavani 93, Falcao 92, Damiao 90, Mandzukic 89 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duncan 7,707 Report post Posted January 1, 2013 Re: The Squad Advice Thread We had similar thoughts' date=' but I wanted a second opinion.so far IN: M'vila, Damiao, Falcao, Cavani, Isco, Dede, Bernard + risers. OUT: Gomez, Contento, Starke, Rafinha, Dante, Robben, Gustavo, Van buyten, Pizarro, tymoschuk. I could still trade out Lahm, Ribery, Schweinstiger. Though alot of managers are not playing ball for two for one trades. [b']Squad[/b] Neuer 93 Lahm 94, Badstuber 91, Boateng 90, Dede 90 Ribery 95, Schweinstiger 94, Muller 93, J.Martinez 91, M'vila 91, Kroos 90, Shaqiri 89, Alaba 88, Isco 87, Bernard 87 Cavani 93, Falcao 92, Damiao 90, Mandzukic 89 Not bad, I would trade Ribery for a few good defenders, maybe Kompany of Hummels and someone else Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FabregasLegend 505 Report post Posted January 1, 2013 Re: The Squad Advice Thread I wanted Hummels + Gotze/Reus for Ribery, but obviously a no go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duncan 7,707 Report post Posted January 1, 2013 Re: The Squad Advice Thread I wanted Hummels + Gotze/Reus for Ribery' date=' but obviously a no go.[/quote'] ye lol, try Hummels and Alba or something Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tiago7 10 Report post Posted January 1, 2013 Re: The Squad Advice Thread Gomez and basdtuber for Busquets ? :confused: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
