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Re: Liga BBVA Ratings Predictions thread

I tend to agree that Messi should probably drop. His stats are still decent' date=' but he has been completely invisible in almost all big matches. His performances this season are clearly not worthy of a 99. And Barcelona had a poor season for their high standards, so that does not help him too. Also, like Ghora mentioned, ratings tend to reflect player's form much faster nowadays, so i think it would not be outrageous if Messi drops really. It would be justified.[/quote']

agreed, it wont be surprising if messi drop to 98, also pique to 94, mascherano to 92, fabregas to 94, puyol to 91, xavi to 95

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I tend to agree that Messi should probably drop. His stats are still decent' date=' but he has been completely invisible in almost all big matches. His performances this season are clearly not worthy of a 99. And Barcelona had a poor season for their high standards, so that does not help him too. Also, like Ghora mentioned, ratings tend to reflect player's form much faster nowadays, so i think it would not be outrageous if Messi drops really. It would be justified.[/quote']
agreed' date=' it wont be surprising if messi drop to 98, also pique to 94, mascherano to 92, fabregas to 94, puyol to 91, xavi to 95[/quote']

lol

What about AC Milan fail qualify for CL/EL? Drop them under 89! :rolleyes:

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Re: Liga BBVA Ratings Predictions thread

SM is clearly biased to Barcelona. People here can defend messi by some excuses but what would you say about Xavi's Rating? Was he really better than others like Toure and Modric this season ?

Well now youve got a point because there are actually players performing better than him, his rating is too high. I expect a drop to 95, even a drop to 94 wouldnt surprise me.

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SM is clearly biased to Barcelona. People here can defend messi by some excuses but what would you say about Xavi's Rating? Was he really better than others like Toure and Modric this season ?

This season is far below its usual level, age also influences, I think your score should go down to 95 or 94, I would go for the latter.

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SM is clearly biased to Barcelona. People here can defend messi by some excuses but what would you say about Xavi's Rating? Was he really better than others like Toure and Modric this season ?

Xavi's high rating is because of his past achievements which is indeed massive. But a drop does look imminent. He should be only one rating ahead of players like Yaya and Modric IMO.

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Re: Liga BBVA Ratings Predictions thread

Xavi's high rating is because of his past achievements which is indeed massive. But a drop does look imminent. He should be only one rating ahead of players like Yaya and Modric IMO.

i found out that in the past few years, SM is more generous on player ratings,

old player ratings like :

lloris rise to 92 on june 2010 ; nowadays no goalkeeper will rise to 92 if their teams not playing in competitive league(such as premier, la liga), lloris played for lyon at that time...

nani reached 93 on december 2012 : i know nani was a better player at that time, but 93? cmon...

fabregas 95 ; in 2008, fabregas already reach 95, how comes??? he got nothing in arsenal, nowadays 95 rating is just for the player who achieved treble.

higuan hit 94 in 2010 ; seriously 94 already in 2010, nowadays 94 rating is just for a player like lewandowski, falcao, suarez, even costa maybe just hit 93 later.

and still many another examples such as, zanetti hit 97, ferdinand vidic hit 97, maicon hit 96, etc...

now, sm is becoming more stingy on player ratings...

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i found out that in the past few years' date=' SM is more generous on player ratings,

old player ratings like :

lloris rise to 92 on june 2010 ; nowadays no goalkeeper will rise to 92 if their teams not playing in competitive league(such as premier, la liga), lloris played for lyon at that time...

nani reached 93 on december 2012 : i know nani was a better player at that time, but 93? cmon...

fabregas 95 ; in 2008, fabregas already reach 95, how comes??? he got nothing in arsenal, nowadays 95 rating is just for the player who achieved treble.

higuan hit 94 in 2010 ; seriously 94 already in 2010, nowadays 94 rating is just for a player like lewandowski, falcao, suarez, even costa maybe just hit 93 later.

and still many another examples such as, zanetti hit 97, ferdinand vidic hit 97, maicon hit 96, etc...

now, sm is becoming more stingy on player ratings...[/quote']

Zanetti 97? :confused:

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Re: Liga BBVA Ratings Predictions thread

enough of messi v ronaldo. who will rise from athletic club? any loan/youth worth keeping?

IRAIZOZ, Gorka GK 33 88

HERRERÍN, Iago GK 26 84

DE MARCOS, Óscar D(RL),M,AM© 25 88

BALENZIAGA, Mikel D,DM,M(L) 26 88

LAPORTE, Aymeric D(LC) 20 87

PÉREZ, Iñigo D,DM(L),M(LC) 26 85

SABORIT, Enric D,DM,M(L) 22 80

SAN JOSÉ, Mikel D,DM© 24 88

EKIZA, Borja D© 26 87

GURPEGI, Carlos D,DM© 33 87

ETXEITA, Xabier D,DM© 26 85

ALBIZUA, Unai D(RC) 25 78

IRAOLA, Andoni D,DM,M® 31 90

BEÑAT, Etxebarria DM,M,AM© 27 90

RICO, Mikel DM,M© 29 89

ITURRASPE, Ander DM,M© 25 89

MORÁN, Erik DM,M© 23 82

HERRERA, Ander M,AM© 24 90

MUNIAIN, Iker AM(RLC),F(RL) 21 90

GÓMEZ, Ibai AM,F(RL) 24 88

SUSAETA, Markel AM(RC),F® 26 90

TOQUERO, Gaizka AM,F© 29 86

ADURIZ, Aritz F© 33 88

SOLA, **** F© 28 87

FERNÁNDEZ, Guillermo

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Re: Liga BBVA Ratings Predictions thread

enough of messi v ronaldo. who will rise from athletic club? any loan/youth worth keeping?

IRAIZOZ' date=' Gorka GK 33 88

HERRERÍN, Iago GK 26 84

DE MARCOS, Óscar D(RL),M,AM© 25 88

BALENZIAGA, Mikel D,DM,M(L) 26 88

LAPORTE, Aymeric D(LC) 20 87

PÉREZ, Iñigo D,DM(L),M(LC) 26 85

SABORIT, Enric D,DM,M(L) 22 80

SAN JOSÉ, Mikel D,DM© 24 88

EKIZA, Borja D© 26 87

GURPEGI, Carlos D,DM© 33 87

ETXEITA, Xabier D,DM© 26 85

ALBIZUA, Unai D(RC) 25 78

IRAOLA, Andoni D,DM,M® 31 90

BEÑAT, Etxebarria DM,M,AM© 27 90

RICO, Mikel DM,M© 29 89

ITURRASPE, Ander DM,M© 25 89

MORÁN, Erik DM,M© 23 82

HERRERA, Ander M,AM© 24 90

MUNIAIN, Iker AM(RLC),F(RL) 21 90

GÓMEZ, Ibai AM,F(RL) 24 88

SUSAETA, Markel AM(RC),F® 26 90

TOQUERO, Gaizka AM,F© 29 86

ADURIZ, Aritz F© 33 88

SOLA, **** F© 28 87

FERNÁNDEZ, Guillermo[/quote']

Laporte, Iturraspe, Erik Moran and Aduriz for sure. Also Guillermo Fernandez.

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Re: Liga BBVA Ratings Predictions thread

alexis sanchez, 55 app, 21 goals, 17 assists, transfermarkt value 26,4m now

pedro rodriguez, 54 app, 19 goals, 13 assists, transfermarkt value 22m now

will alexis rise to 93?

or is it pedro deserves down to 92?

opinion please

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alexis sanchez' date=' 55 app, 21 goals, 17 assists, transfermarkt value 26,4m now

pedro rodriguez, 54 app, 19 goals, 13 assists, transfermarkt value 22m now

will alexis rise to 93?

or is it pedro deserves down to 92?

opinion please[/quote']

i believe alexis will rise, and pedro will hold his rating. Xavi and Puyol are the only 2 definite Barca Droppers, With Masch, Pique and Fabregas all a chance.

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Mascherano has been the most consistent from the dreadfull Barcelona defense. I dont think he will drop.

Alexis, i would say its a 50-50 the lack of a title makes his rise difficult. Pedro rose that much not only due to his performances but also for Barcelona winning everything. Wouldnt be a surprise if Alexis rises, wouldnt be a surprise if he stays.

Puyol is retiring.

Pique and Alves on the edge of dropping, closer to drop than stay, even though Alves performances improved by the end of the season.

Xavi is dropping for sure, wouldnt surprise me if he dropped by 2.

Fabregas... i think he will stay but wouldnt be a surprise if he drops.

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Mascherano has been the most consistent from the dreadfull Barcelona defense. I dont think he will drop.

Alexis' date=' i would say its a 50-50 the lack of a title makes his rise difficult. Pedro rose that much not only due to his performances but also for Barcelona winning everything. Wouldnt be a surprise if Alexis rises, wouldnt be a surprise if he stays.

Puyol is retiring.

Pique and Alves on the edge of dropping, closer to drop than stay, even though Alves performances improved by the end of the season.

Xavi is dropping for sure, wouldnt surprise me if he dropped by 2.

Fabregas... i think he will stay but wouldnt be a surprise if he drops.[/quote']

yes, i agree with you.

sometimes, it feels unfair, if the teams win everything, then some of the players will raise overrated,

but instead, for example there is a player scored 30 goals and 15 assists in la liga, but plays in levante, malaga or any middle-table team, then maybe he will rise at max 90-91,

what do u think of arda turan, juanfran torres, gabi fernandez?

i think they deserve to rise, but SM goes stingy nowadays...

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yes' date=' i agree with you.

sometimes, it feels unfair, if the teams win everything, then some of the players will raise overrated,

but instead, for example there is a player scored 30 goals and 15 assists in la liga, but plays in levante, malaga or any middle-table team, then maybe he will rise at max 90-91, [/quote']

It has been always this way. Leagues are capped and teams depending of the leagues are also capped.

what do u think of arda turan, juanfran torres, gabi fernandez?

i think they deserve to rise, but SM goes stingy nowadays...

Turan: 91 -> 92

Juanfran: 90 -> 91/92

Gabi: 91 -> 92/91

Key players in the league title and champions league final.

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Re: Liga BBVA Ratings Predictions thread

Please' date=' Messi won 5 leagues, 3 UCL, 4 Golden Balls and many more titles to get the rise to 99. Cristiano has won 1 league, 2 cups, 1 UCL and 2 Golden Balls since he is at Real Madrid. He can not be at the same rating as Messi yet.[/quote']

Golden Balls mean squat, mate.

They're a subjective award, that depends on people's votes.

And didn't you forget to count Roanldo's trophies at United? Or those don't count? :D

And it's not like the PL is the Albanian league. :o

I won't get into this Messi vs Ronaldo debate again.

For me, both should be 99.

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