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Thought i'd give the Spanish league ratings a go, first time doing predictions so dont expect 100% accuracy The ratings are probably around a month away so i'll update nearer the time if theres any

SM has become more concerned about new games and profits than quality. It's been a long time since the good ole' days.

Respuesta: Liga BBVA Ratings Predictions thread These are the predictions that I have done in the Spanish forum. The people agree very, you? GETAFE Escudero 84 > 85/86 Arroyo 80 > 82/83

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then if ronaldo win baloon d'or this year(i assume he will)' date=' it means messi lost to him twice a row,

still not third times in row, so ronaldo wont rise to 99,

but messi have to drop 98 for sure[/quote']

Achieve that feat 3 years in a row like Messi.

But as soon as Ronaldo does what everyone considered "Impossible" by fairly beating Messi to claim the Balon D'or everyone now goes and changes their tune. Surely Messi will be dropping to 98 within the next few days then? Seeing as he's not the best player in the world anymore... Also he looks unlikely to claim the next Balon D'or. Something has got to be done!

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But as soon as Ronaldo does what everyone considered "Impossible" by fairly beating Messi to claim the Balon D'or everyone now goes and changes their tune. Surely Messi will be dropping to 98 within the next few days then? Seeing as he's not the best player in the world anymore... Also he looks unlikely to claim the next Balon D'or. Something has got to be done!

I don't think the Balon D'or should have any influence on a rating - associations and friends voting for each other - it is no better than the Eurovision Song Contest!

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But as soon as Ronaldo does what everyone considered "Impossible" by fairly beating Messi to claim the Balon D'or everyone now goes and changes their tune. Surely Messi will be dropping to 98 within the next few days then? Seeing as he's not the best player in the world anymore... Also he looks unlikely to claim the next Balon D'or. Something has got to be done!

Who says that Messi ain't the best player in the world?He actually is..Ronaldo been better for one season,that doesn't make him the best in the world for God's sake.Messi been above Ronaldo for 4 seasons in a row or so.When I say above,he's been killing him in every single game,every single stats.An off-form Messi managed to stay pretty close to ROnaldo still.

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Lewy done a lot more than Costa in the previous 2 seasons too.So...

yes' date=' definitely, too quick rise to 94 in one season

I don't think the Balon D'or should have any influence on a rating - associations and friends voting for each other - it is no better than the Eurovision Song Contest!

of course, it is influencing. if ronaldo won in twice, he will rise to 99

Who says that Messi ain't the best player in the world?He actually is..Ronaldo been better for one season' date='that doesn't make him the best in the world for God's sake.Messi been above Ronaldo for 4 seasons in a row or so.When I say above,he's been killing him in every single game,every single stats.An off-form Messi managed to stay pretty close to ROnaldo still.[/quote']

i wont argue about messi, while i think when xavi-iniesta didnt play good, messi got big influenced too. ronaldo deserves 99 for sure, for his performance in these 2 years.

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Who says that Messi ain't the best player in the world?He actually is..Ronaldo been better for one season' date='that doesn't make him the best in the world for God's sake.Messi been above Ronaldo for 4 seasons in a row or so.When I say above,he's been killing him in every single game,every single stats.An off-form Messi managed to stay pretty close to ROnaldo still.[/quote']

Thank you Raz, really.....it's ridiculous....one season, most of Messi's goalscoring records still intact and all of a sudden Messi should drop and Ronaldo is on par with him...? Take nothing away from Ronaldo, he played outta his skin and still hasn't done anything Messi hasn't bar the Champs scoring record....

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Who says that Messi ain't the best player in the world?He actually is..Ronaldo been better for one season' date='that doesn't make him the best in the world for God's sake.Messi been above Ronaldo for 4 seasons in a row or so.When I say above,he's been killing him in every single game,every single stats.An off-form Messi managed to stay pretty close to ROnaldo still.[/quote']

Off form Messi only got close to Ronaldo, when he latter got injured. And he only got close to him in weak La Liga, Ronaldo Murdered him in Champions League. The puking leprechaun Era is over.

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Thank you Raz' date=' really.....it's ridiculous....one season, most of Messi's goalscoring records still intact and all of a sudden Messi should drop and Ronaldo is on par with him...? Take nothing away from Ronaldo, he played outta his skin and still hasn't done anything Messi hasn't bar the Champs scoring record....[/quote']

Yup, that insignificant Champions League Record that everyone beats every year, right?

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stay 94' date=' its fair, madrid evaluation so far is good,

pepe stay is a little bit dissapointing though,

and ronaldo must rise to 99 if he got baloon d'or this year :([/quote']

#balehype

needs to do a lot more in coming years though obviously he's young enough and has the potential. personally didn't feel 94 was justified in the first place.

if ronaldo carries on his form till the end of this year or wins the world cup then he rises, messi's consistency and superiority for so long still gives him a slight edge for now.

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#balehype

needs to do a lot more in coming years though obviously he's young enough and has the potential. personally didn't feel 94 was justified in the first place.

if ronaldo carries on his form till the end of this year or wins the world cup then he rises' date=' messi's consistency and superiority for so long still gives him a slight edge for now.[/quote']

if portugal wins the world cup, then ronaldo must rise to 100 :D:D:D

messi never performed so well in argentina, while ronaldo performed well in portugal though he is in weaker team.

portugal wont win the world cup, they are too much depend on ronaldo

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Thank you Raz' date=' really.....it's ridiculous....one season, most of Messi's goalscoring records still intact and all of a sudden Messi should drop and Ronaldo is on par with him...? Take nothing away from Ronaldo, he played outta his skin and still hasn't done anything Messi hasn't bar the Champs scoring record....[/quote']
Who says that Messi ain't the best player in the world?He actually is..Ronaldo been better for one season' date='that doesn't make him the best in the world for God's sake.Messi been above Ronaldo for 4 seasons in a row or so.When I say above,he's been killing him in every single game,every single stats.An off-form Messi managed to stay pretty close to ROnaldo still.[/quote']

Raz your opinion should always be kept to yourself quite frankly. You can roll Messi in glitter all you like but he isn't as good as Ronaldo anymore. He's lost his love and passion for the game.

As for the champions League record. He scored 17 goals in 11 appearances to win La Decima, against Europe's best teams. He has destroyed Messi's record to a point where I don't think it can be beaten again.

There are two ways to look at this...

Ronaldo has raised his game to Messi's level (arguably surpassed), therefore he warrants a 99 like Messi.

OR

Messi has dropped his level to just below Ronaldo's, therefore warranting a drop to 98.

But seeing as Ronaldo has improved significantly in this last year, I'm going to go with the first. However if Ronaldo rises I'm not saying Messi deserves to drop... they both deserve to be even because Messi has been amazing as well. But they both at least deserve the same rating; that's all I'm saying.

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Moreno is good' date=' but he's not as good as the hype around him may suggest. I followed him in some matches, specially in Europe League, and he was kinda average. Actually he was poor in Europe League Final particularly, lot of dangerous situations were created from his wing, and he commited a pathetic penalty over Lima, ref failed to see though. He already played for Spain, but he was not called for WC. If Inigo Martinez is still an 89, Moreno is ok at 89 too. He's behind Sevilla's most important players: Rakitic 91 and Bacca 90. He's on the same level or higher of the other starters, which i believe is fair for now. He will rise to 90 at some point though.

I agree with you about Pepe, Sanchez and Neymar. Pepe definitely needs to rise and a rise would be fair for Sanchez also. Neymar did not justify a 93 rating atm, and wont certainly get a 94 after the WC... I mean, i seriously hope not. :rolleyes: His performance last night was average btw, despite scoring 2 goals.

Definitely...

Funny B) But i don't think he should have droped. And i'm sure he will be huge for Chelsea.[/quote']

I can pretty much see Neymar risingto 94 after this summer's world cup. He obviously turns it up for Brazil on the international scene, and its obvious the team is built around him as the central star. He will also be Brazil's regular Corner, Free kick and Penatly taker, and its a safe bet to say that he will turn up with around 4 which is certainly impressive at a World Cup.

Playing for Barcelona on the other hand, Neymar has been really average to be honest. Pedro and Alexis are far more effective when given the opportunity to play in the first team. In reality I would rate Neymar at 92, just below Alexis Sanchez and Pedro.

A drop for Neymar would be harsh and unwarranted, since its first season. However a rise +1 to 93 for Alexis would do justice to the season that Alexis has had this season. This would also reflect his status among the Barcelona squad as in reality he is on the same level as Pedro in terms of squad status and ability.

Alexis Sanchez has been phenomenal this season, for both club and country. 20 goals and 11 assists in the League alone, and scored a goal that almost handed Barcelona the title on the last day against Atletico. Scored goals in crucial games against Atletico, Real and was arguably the best player on the pitch against England at Wembley, scoring 2 goals for his native Chile in the process. Its clear that Alexis has performed at the standard which warrants a +1 to 93 as he is considered an important member of the Barcelona team.

If in 4-5 weeks Neymar gets a +1 for a good World Cup showing and Sanchez remains 92 it will be a total misrepresentation of reality.

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considering lewa got 94 for being runner up in cl and league winner yes he probably should have.

Pretty annoyed. Bought him for a financially crippled side expecting to make a big profit with a rise to 94. His rise to 93 has changed his value for less and after paying wages for a whole TB, I think im worse off

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Who says that Messi ain't the best player in the world?He actually is..Ronaldo been better for one season' date='that doesn't make him the best in the world for God's sake.Messi been above Ronaldo for 4 seasons in a row or so.When I say above,he's been killing him in every single game,every single stats.An off-form Messi managed to stay pretty close to ROnaldo still.[/quote']

Bahahahah what a joke!

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Pretty annoyed. Bought him for a financially crippled side expecting to make a big profit with a rise to 94. His rise to 93 has changed his value for less and after paying wages for a whole TB' date=' I think im worse off[/quote']

Although I do understand your frustration regarding Diego Costa not getting a +2 to 94, you have to understand that Lewandowski and Falcao were really an exception to the rule.

Lewandowski scored 4 goals against arguably the most expensive team in history against Real Madrid, in a Champions League Semi Final, and that certainly made plenty of people wet their pajamas thinking about him, hence the double jump up to 94.

Same principle applies to Falcao. That 4 goal haul against Chelsea in the European Super Cup created immense hype in World Football , hence his double up rise to 94.

+ 1 was always on the cards

For another +2 it would have to take something spectacular. Such as scoring 4 goals against Real or Barca or another European giant such as Bayern etc.

Costa has had a phenomenal season , and I not disputing that. However unlike Lewa and Falcao, he didn't do something freakish to attain that extra +1 to 94 which you usually get for an insane performance and doing something out of the ordinary and cementing your name in the record books.

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This ''Costa to 94'' mania should stop. He is a big reason why Atletico lost in the CL final. Was useless against the crunch last league game vs Barca too. Injuries are not his fault but not SM's fault either. Performance in those two matches should be magnified 10 times while doing the review. He is lucky to get 93 actually.

Haha the last bit is untrue. :P

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Good Grief about the Lionel Messi/Ronaldo debate.

The same people who are continuously debating who is the better player between Ronaldo and Lionel Messi are one step away from being the same people who discuss the several possible integers on how Superman can beat Batman.

This is entirely opinion, and you can not approve or disapprove an opinion. Both are tremendously fantastic players for their respective clubs and debating who is the better player is virtually pointless.

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This ''Costa to 94'' mania should stop. He is a big reason why Atletico lost in the CL final. Was useless against the crunch last league game vs Barca too. Injuries are not his fault but not SM's fault either. Performance in those two matches should be magnified 10 times while doing the review. He is lucky to get 93 actually.

Haha the last bit is untrue. :P

i have one question...

if costa only manage to get 93, will sanchez get the same? :rolleyes:

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Who says that Messi ain't the best player in the world?He actually is..Ronaldo been better for one season' date='that doesn't make him the best in the world for God's sake.Messi been above Ronaldo for 4 seasons in a row or so.When I say above,he's been killing him in every single game,every single stats.An off-form Messi managed to stay pretty close to ROnaldo still.[/quote']

I agree. Messi is simply the best.

Ronaldo is great but when we talk about his scoring achievements let's check the stats. He scores a lot but also he tries a lot.

Even his teammates in Madrid criticised him for shooting from every position instead of looking for better solution. What about free kicks? How many of them are changed to goals by CR7 comparing to other free kick specialists?

Don't misunderstand me. He is great player but number of goals is not the best argument in this discussion.

In my opinion this was the first season for many years when Ronaldo was better than Messi and it's not enough to put them on the same level(rating).

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