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Thought i'd give the Spanish league ratings a go, first time doing predictions so dont expect 100% accuracy The ratings are probably around a month away so i'll update nearer the time if theres any

SM has become more concerned about new games and profits than quality. It's been a long time since the good ole' days.

Respuesta: Liga BBVA Ratings Predictions thread These are the predictions that I have done in the Spanish forum. The people agree very, you? GETAFE Escudero 84 > 85/86 Arroyo 80 > 82/83

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I agree. Messi is simply the best.

Ronaldo is great but when we talk about his scoring achievements let's check the stats. He scores a lot but also he tries a lot.

Even his teammates in Madrid criticised him for shooting from every position instead of looking for better solution. What about free kicks? How many of them are changed to goals by CR7 comparing to other free kick specialists?

Don't misunderstand me. He is great player but number of goals is not the best argument in this discussion.

In my opinion this was the first season for many years when Ronaldo was better than Messi and it's not enough to put them on the same level(rating).

Why is Messi half as good as Ronaldo in CL away matches outside of Spain?

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Why is Messi half as good as Ronaldo in CL away matches outside of Spain?

Have you analyzed all possible "part-stats" such as this one?

Who scored more important goals- let's say in 'big matches' or in important moments? Even this season in Gran Derbi(Bernabeu) Messi "weak as never" was playing much better than Ronaldo. 3-1 in goals.

But all is about whole career of both. Somebody here wrote messi has lost his passion and love for football. Ok, maybe. But let's wait if it's true and then drop him.

Ronaldo should play better next season to rise. He should be better more frequently in important matches and improve his "goals to chances" stats. He should make more wise decisions- I mean should be more versatile when it comes to finish actions(more passes, less shots from all around the pitch).

My opinion, please don't feel offended.

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Costa at 93 is more than enough! C'mon now. At least give him another season to prove that he's not a one trick pony. I don't think one great season warrants such sudden increase.

And Messi should be rated same as Ronaldo. That is without a doubt after this season.

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Have you analyzed all possible "part-stats" such as this one?

Who scored more important goals- let's say in 'big matches' or in important moments? Even this season in Gran Derbi(Bernabeu) Messi "weak as never" was playing much better than Ronaldo. 3-1 in goals.

But all is about whole career of both. Somebody here wrote messi has lost his passion and love for football. Ok' date=' maybe. But let's wait if it's true and then drop him.

Ronaldo should play better than next season to rise. He should be better more frequently in important matches and improve his "goals to chances" stats. He should make more wise decisions- I mean should be more versatile when it comes to end actions(more passes, less shots from all around the pitch).

My opinion, please don't feel offended.[/quote']

In important matches Ronaldo performs better than Messi. Messi been pretty useless in important CL games and even in the season he scored 91 goals he was poor in big games. In that season against Chelsea in semis he scored none while Ronaldo scored two vs Bayern and one assist. In el clasico Ronaldo hit the winner, against Ateletico too Ronaldo scored two goals to win Real the match aand then went on to win La Liga. And then from September to December(most unimportant part of the season) Messi started banging goals in la liga matches and that's how he got that number. Ronaldo deserved Ballon D Or that year as well. In this year bar that one El Clasico Messi hasn't done well in big games again. Ronaldo did amazing vs Sweden to take Portugal to WC .. so its clear who is better in big games. ;)

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(...) If in 4-5 weeks Neymar gets a +1 for a good World Cup showing and Sanchez remains 92 it will be a total misrepresentation of reality.

Like i said' date=' i agree with you on this matter mate. Sanchez is a great player and he did enough to get a rise, it will only be fair. Neymar's rating rose too quickly and mostly based on his performances for Brazil's NT. No doubt he's a great player, but he needs to prove himself in Europe to justify an higher rating. He certainly needs to do do better than what he did this season.

Pretty annoyed. Bought him for a financially crippled side expecting to make a big profit with a rise to 94. His rise to 93 has changed his value for less and after paying wages for a whole TB, I think im worse off

It should be a very competitive setup if you buy a top player like Diego Costa just to make some profit, eheh B)

Although I do understand your frustration regarding Diego Costa not getting a +2 to 94' date=' you have to understand that Lewandowski and Falcao were really an exception to the rule.

Lewandowski scored 4 goals against arguably the most expensive team in history against Real Madrid, in a Champions League Semi Final, and that certainly made plenty of people wet their pajamas thinking about him, hence the double jump up to 94.

Same principle applies to Falcao. That 4 goal haul against Chelsea in the European Super Cup created immense hype in World Football , hence his double up rise to 94.

+ 1 was always on the cards

For another +2 it would have to take something spectacular. Such as scoring 4 goals against Real or Barca or another European giant such as Bayern etc.

Costa has had a phenomenal season , and I not disputing that. However unlike Lewa and Falcao, he didn't do something freakish to attain that extra +1 to 94 which you usually get for an insane performance and doing something out of the ordinary and cementing your name in the record books.[/quote']

Yes, that and the important fact that both Falcao and Lewandowski performed at an high level for a longer period of time.

This ''Costa to 94'' mania should stop. He is a big reason why Atletico lost in the CL final. Was useless against the crunch last league game vs Barca too. Injuries are not his fault but not SM's fault either.

Indeed. He did not enough to justify a +2 to an extremely high 94 rating. 93 is deserved though.

Good Grief about the Lionel Messi/Ronaldo debate.

The same people who are continuously debating who is the better player between Ronaldo and Lionel Messi are one step away from being the same people who discuss the several possible integers on how Superman can beat Batman.

This is entirely opinion' date=' and you can not approve or disapprove an opinion. Both are tremendously fantastic players for their respective clubs and debating who is the better player is virtually pointless.[/quote']

True. They're both amazing players, with completely different styles. Imo it's not possible neither fair to name who is the best. This year Ronaldo was clearly better, Messi had a significant drop in his form, even though he was still great sometimes. Messi has awesome ball control and it's impressive how he gets past the opponents. Ronaldo is not able to do that because of his big body, but he does other amazing things, and he's probably the most complete player ever.

Rating wise, i think it would be fair if they were rated the same, specially after this season (being it 98 or 99).

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Costa at 93 is more than enough! C'mon now. At least give him another season to prove that he's not a one trick pony. I don't think one great season warrants such sudden increase.

And Messi should be rated same as Ronaldo. That is without a doubt after this season.

These are my thoughts exactly.

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Uh what? He came in injured' date=' pretty much an expected performance.[/quote']

At the end of the day his impact was wasting a substitution and a huge psychological blow to his team. Maybe its Simeone's fault but Costa's rating has to suffer because of this.

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Good Grief about the Lionel Messi/Ronaldo debate.

The same people who are continuously debating who is the better player between Ronaldo and Lionel Messi are one step away from being the same people who discuss the several possible integers on how Superman can beat Batman.

This is entirely opinion' date=' and you can not approve or disapprove an opinion. Both are tremendously fantastic players for their respective clubs and debating who is the better player is virtually pointless.[/quote']

This!

I prefer Messi, but I enjoy watching both players. If someone prefers Ronaldo then that's their choice, I can't say its wrong.

On top of what you said, I also think that debating who is better doesn't allow you to fully appreciate that we are very fortunate to be watching two of the best players in history play at the same time.

Both should be 99 IMO.

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i have one question...

if costa only manage to get 93' date=' will sanchez get the same? :rolleyes:[/quote']

Alexis Sanchez should receive +1

However considering this is SM, his performances will probably be injustily ignored, with everyone being preoccupied with Neymar and Messi.

Incredible season and is up there with Pedro in importance and ability at Barcelona.

Costa is fine at 93 after a fine breakthrough season at Atletico. He was rated 88 a year ago and by all means being rated 93 a season later is an incredible achievement. Needs to prove himself at Chelsea to get 94+

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Spain vs Netherlands 1-5' date='

with this result im sure barcelona should have some dropped

it will be a guilty if pique and xavi stay

while ramos can forget his baloon d'or dream after got raped by robben,

pathetic performance....[/quote']

True, I was shocked, but maybe i shouldn't have been.

At least Sanchez should have a good night against Australia. He should probably get a +1.

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Costa is good, but I dont rate him on the same level as Lewandowski or Falcao etc. So 93 is good atm.

Disappointed, i got Rakitic AND Sanchez on my Napoli team thinking they would rise. Hopefully that can still happen. I also have Pepe as well.

btw, what do you think of Juan Roman from Barca? Was on loan at Villareall i believe.

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Costa is good' date=' but I dont rate him on the same level as Lewandowski or Falcao etc. So 93 is good atm.

Disappointed, i got Rakitic AND Sanchez on my Napoli team thinking they would rise. Hopefully that can still happen. I also have Pepe as well.

btw, what do you think of Juan Roman from Barca? Was on loan at Villareall i believe.[/quote']

i believe they still havent evaluated barcelona, its impossible there is no drop for xavi, pique and affelay, maybe today

speaking about rakitic, i dont think he deserved to be rised tbh, he didnt perform well after half of the season, his goal and assist dropped, so its fair to him to stay, however if he make a move to barcelona, he could be rised to 92 coz of "barca effect"

pepe stay is shameful,

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True' date=' I was shocked, but maybe i shouldn't have been.

At least Sanchez should have a good night against Australia. He should probably get a +1.[/quote']

yes, he deserved 93 for sure, he is man of the match tonight

his performance this year is superb. he is the same level like neymar and pedro

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