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Re: Liga BBVA Ratings 2012/2013

erm. im not so optimistic on falcao.

even a +1 would be 50/50. a +2 is nil impossible .

Not impossible. :confused: Far from it. I remember when Chiellini went from 90 to 92, and later he went from 92 to 94. Falcao looks to keep scoring in every game and should be rated as such.

I would like to see your reasoning behind a 50/50 rise to 93.

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Thought i'd give the Spanish league ratings a go, first time doing predictions so dont expect 100% accuracy The ratings are probably around a month away so i'll update nearer the time if theres any

SM has become more concerned about new games and profits than quality. It's been a long time since the good ole' days.

Respuesta: Liga BBVA Ratings Predictions thread These are the predictions that I have done in the Spanish forum. The people agree very, you? GETAFE Escudero 84 > 85/86 Arroyo 80 > 82/83

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I just swapped Welbeck and Lewandoski to acquire Falcao. What are your thoughts and is there a chance of him reaching 94?

Will Benzema keep his 94?

Good deal for you.

Benzema is safe.

erm. im not so optimistic on falcao.

even a +1 would be 50/50. a +2 is nil impossible .

+1 is 99.9999999999 certain' date=' +2 is 0.0000000001 certain ;)

does nabil el zhar have any chance of a +2, he's played all nine games this season, levante are 6th and look like they will qualify for Europa knockouts.

Its possible, especially if Levate keep up their good run of form.

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Thought i'd give the Spanish league ratings a go' date=' first time doing predictions so dont expect 100% accuracy :P The ratings are probably around a month away so i'll update nearer the time if theres any changes needed.

I'll add links to the individual clubs on the first page once their up.

If there are two ratings such as 50/50 it means i think both ratings are as likely as each other, or two ratings such as 75/25, well you should get the idea.

Feel free to make suggestions/ask questions.

Barcelona

Real Madrid

Atletico Madrid

Malaga

Sevilla

Valencia

Athletic Club

Mallorca

Real Betis

Real Valladolid

Getafe

Rayo Vallecano

Levante

Celta Vigo

Real Sociedad

Deportivo

Espanyol

Real Zaragoza

Granada

Osasuna

great work , one of the best predition on this forum , just Phil from Bundesliga is maybe better :)

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Great job Kazzer, repped!

Just one question mate. Don´t you think Jesus Gamez from Malaga has some chances to rise? He´s their captain, he´s a starter for many seasons, he´s very good going forward, Malaga is doing great both in La Liga and Champions League. I assume you know all this, but maybe you underestimated him? I would like to get your opinion on him.

Cheers!

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Thanks for the predictions!

Hope you don't mind that I sum up your predictions here. I've made some categories to make it easier for everyone to find what they are looking for.

90+ risers (and possible risers)

ALBA, Jordi 90 ---> 92/91

ARBELOA, Álvaro 91 ---> 92

KHEDIRA, Sami 92 ---> 92/93

ALONSO, Xabi 94 ---> 95/94

GODÍN, Diego 90---> 91

MIRANDA, João 90---> 91/90

TURAN, Arda 90---> 91

FALCAO, Radamel 92---> 93

85 – 89 risers (only the ones predicted as certain risers)

TELLO, Cristian 85 ---> 87

MONTOYA, Martín 86 ---> 87

VARANE, Raphaël 87 ---> 88

COURTOIS, Thibaut 88 ---> 89

JUANFRAN, Torres 88---> 89

KOKE, Jorge 86---> 88

SUAREZ, Mario 88---> 89

COSTA, Diego 86---> 87

CABALLERO, Willy 87 ---> 88/89

WELIGTON, Robson 87 ---> 88

CAMACHO, Ignacio 85 ---> 87/88

ISCO, Alarcón 87 ---> 89

PALOP, Andrés 87---> 88

FEGHOULI, Sofiane 88 ---> 89

VICTOR, Casadesús 86 ---> 87

HEMED, Tomer 85 ---> 87/88

CASTO, Espinosa 85 ---> 86

PAULÃO, Afonso 86 ---> 87

MARIO, Álvarez 85 ---> 86

BENAT, Etxebarria 87 ---> 88

BARRADA, Abdelaziz 85 ---> 86

AMAT, Jordi 85 ---> 86/87

DIOP, Papakouli 86 ---> 87

EL ZHAR, Nabil 85 ---> 86/87

PIZZI, Luís 85--->86

ÁLVARO, González 85 ---> 86

80 – 84 risers (only the ones predicted as certain risers)

ITURRA, Manuel 83 ---> 84/85

PORTILLO, Francisco 80 ---> 84

CICINHO, Mendonça 84---> 87

CAMPAÑA, José 83---> 84

VIERA, Jonathan 84 ---> 86/85

PEREZ, Iñigo 83 ---> 85

IBAI, Gómez 82 ---> 83

BIGAS, Pedro 80 ---> 82

XIMO, Navarro 82 ---> 85

CONCEIÇÃO, Anderson 82 ---> 83/84

PINA, Tomás 84 ---> 86

CARLOS, Juan 83 ---> 85

CANAS, José 84 ---> 85

AGRA, Salvador 84 ---> 85

POZUELO, Alejandro 82 ---> 84

BALENZIAGA, Mikel 84 ---> 85/86

VALIENTE, Marc 80 ---> 83

OMAR, Suárez 82 ---> 84

RUEDA, Jesús 82 ---> 84

PEREZ, Víctor 80 ---> 84/83

BUENO, Alberto 82 ---> 83

GUERRA, Javi 84 ---> 85

ALCACER, Paco 80 ---> 82

RUBEN, Iván 83 ---> 84

CARLOS, José 83 ---> 85/86

QUERO, Juan 82 ---> 83

MICHEL, Ángel 84 ---> 85

LAGO, Roberto 83 ---> 85

MALLO, Hugo 83 ---> 85

TÚÑEZ, Andrés 80 ---> 84/83

LÓPEZ, Alex 82 ---> 84/85

OUBIÑA, Borja 82 ---> 83

ASPAS, Iago 82 ---> 85

BERGARA, Markel 83 ---> 85/86

ILLARRAMENDI, Asier 83 ---> 85

DOMÍNGUEZ, Juan 83--->85/84

CRISTIAN, Gómez 82 ---> 83

FONTE, Rui 82 ---> 83

MONTANES, Paco 84 ---> 85

TIMOR, David 82 ---> 83

LOE, Raoul 81 ---> 82

Under 80 risers (only the ones predicted as certain risers)

OUESLATI, Kader 77---> 80

ÓLIVER, Torres 75---> 76

FABRICE, Olinga 75 ---> 78/80

RUIZ DE GALARRETA, Iñigo 78 ---> 80

ISMAEL, López 77 ---> 84

JAIME, Jiménez 78 ---> 82

LOLO, Manuel 75 ---> 77

LEO, Baptistão 77 ---> 82

GARCÌA, Rubén 75 ---> 78/80

ÁLVAREZ, Sergio 78 ---> 80

TONI, Dovale 77 ---> 80

ROS, Javi 78 ---> 80

LONGO, Samuele 77 ---> 82

RODRÍGUEZ, Víctor 78 ---> 82

Big risers (+3 or more)

OUESLATI, Kader 77---> 80

PORTILLO, Francisco 80 ---> 84

FABRICE, Olinga 75 ---> 78/80

CICINHO, Mendonça 84---> 87

ISMAEL, López 77 ---> 84

XIMO, Navarro 82 ---> 85

JAIME, Jiménez 78 ---> 82

VALIENTE, Marc 80 ---> 83

PEREZ, Víctor 80 ---> 84/83

LEO, Baptistão 77 ---> 82

GARCÌA, Rubén 75 ---> 78/80

ASPAS, Iago 82 ---> 85

TONI, Dovale 77 ---> 80

LONGO, Samuele 77 ---> 82

RODRÍGUEZ, Víctor 78 ---> 82

85+ Droppers (predicted as certain droppers)

ABIDAL, Éric 92 ---> 91

PUYOL, Carles 96 ---> 95

CARVALHO, Ricardo 92 ---> 90

KAKA, Ricardo 94 ---> 93

SILVIO, Azevedo 88---> 87

KAMENI, Carlos 88 ---> 87

ONYEWU, Oguchi 87 ---> 86

DUDA, Sergio 88 ---> 87

BAPTISTA, Júlio 88 ---> 86/87

LOPEZ, Diego 90 ---> 89

MARTI, Josep Lluís 87 ---> 86

ANGEL, López 87 ---> 86

PERQUIS, Damien 88 ---> 87

CALATAYUD, Juan 85 ---> 84

SEVILLA, Salva 85 ---> 84

JUANITO, Gutiérrez 87 ---> 85

MATABUENA, Sergio 85 ---> 82

CODINA, Jordi 86 ---> 85

MANE, José 88 ---> 87

GAVILAN, Jaime 87 ---> 86

GUIZA, Daniel 87 ---> 86

ARANA, Manuel 85 ---> 84

DEL HORNO, Asier 86 ---> 84

SERRANO, Óscar 86 ---> 85/84

FARINOS, Francisco 86 ---> 84

PARK, Chu-young 88 ---> 87/86

MARTÍNEZ, Carlos 86 ---> 85

AYOZE, Díaz 87--->86

SANTOS, André 87--->86

VÁZQUEZ, Jesús 85--->84

CASILLA, Kiko 85 ---> 84/83

GALÁN, Ernesto 85 ---> 83/84

MATTIONI, Felipe 85 ---> 83

COLOTTO, Diego 88 ---> 87

ALBÍN, Juan 87 ---> 86

SIMÃO, Sabrosa 88 ---> 87

FRANCO, Leo 85 ---> 84/83

OBRADOVIC, Ivan 86 ---> 85

LANZARO, Maurizio 85 ---> 84/83

ROBERTO, Fernández 85 ---> 84

CORTES, David 85 ---> 83

DIAKHATE, **** 88 ---> 87

YEBDA, Hassan 87 ---> 86

HURTADO, Moisés 86 ---> 84/85

FLANO, Miguel 88 ---> 87

RUBEN, González 85 ---> 84/83

PUNAL, Patxi 87 ---> 86

SHOJAEI, Masoud 86 ---> 84

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I have a couple of questions about Filipe Luis. I haven't seen him play more than a few times in Europa League so I really can't judge how good he is.

Why don't you think he will rise and what is his strengths and weaknesses?

His stats are very good and Atletico is doing really well so judging by that one could think he will rise to 90.

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Thanks for the predictions!

Hope you don't mind that I sum up your predictions here. I've made some categories to make it easier for everyone to find what they are looking for.

90+ risers (and possible risers)

ALBA' date=' Jordi 90 ---> 92/91

ARBELOA, Álvaro 91 ---> 92

KHEDIRA, Sami 92 ---> 92/93

ALONSO, Xabi 94 ---> 95/94

GODÍN, Diego 90---> 91

MIRANDA, João 90---> 91/90 stay

TURAN, Arda 90---> 91 stay

FALCAO, Radamel 92---> 93[/color']

85 – 89 risers (only the ones predicted as certain risers)

TELLO, Cristian 85 ---> 87

MONTOYA, Martín 86 ---> 87

VARANE, Raphaël 87 ---> 88

COURTOIS, Thibaut 88 ---> 89

JUANFRAN, Torres 88---> 89

KOKE, Jorge 86---> 88

SUAREZ, Mario 88---> 89

COSTA, Diego 86---> 87

CABALLERO, Willy 87 ---> 88/89

WELIGTON, Robson 87 ---> 88

CAMACHO, Ignacio 85 ---> 87/88

ISCO, Alarcón 87 ---> 89

PALOP, Andrés 87---> 88

FEGHOULI, Sofiane 88 ---> 89

VICTOR, Casadesús 86 ---> 87

HEMED, Tomer 85 ---> 87/88

CASTO, Espinosa 85 ---> 86

PAULÃO, Afonso 86 ---> 87

MARIO, Álvarez 85 ---> 86

BENAT, Etxebarria 87 ---> 88

BARRADA, Abdelaziz 85 ---> 86

AMAT, Jordi 85 ---> 86/87

DIOP, Papakouli 86 ---> 87

EL ZHAR, Nabil 85 ---> 86/87

PIZZI, Luís 85--->86

ÁLVARO, González 85 ---> 86

80 – 84 risers (only the ones predicted as certain risers)

ITURRA, Manuel 83 ---> 84/85

PORTILLO, Francisco 80 ---> 84

CICINHO, Mendonça 84---> 87

CAMPAÑA, José 83---> 84

VIERA, Jonathan 84 ---> 86/85

PEREZ, Iñigo 83 ---> 85

IBAI, Gómez 82 ---> 83

BIGAS, Pedro 80 ---> 82

XIMO, Navarro 82 ---> 85

CONCEIÇÃO, Anderson 82 ---> 83/84

PINA, Tomás 84 ---> 86

CARLOS, Juan 83 ---> 85

CANAS, José 84 ---> 85

AGRA, Salvador 84 ---> 85

POZUELO, Alejandro 82 ---> 84

BALENZIAGA, Mikel 84 ---> 85/86

VALIENTE, Marc 80 ---> 83

OMAR, Suárez 82 ---> 84

RUEDA, Jesús 82 ---> 84

PEREZ, Víctor 80 ---> 84/83

BUENO, Alberto 82 ---> 83

GUERRA, Javi 84 ---> 85

ALCACER, Paco 80 ---> 82

RUBEN, Iván 83 ---> 84

CARLOS, José 83 ---> 85/86

QUERO, Juan 82 ---> 83

MICHEL, Ángel 84 ---> 85

LAGO, Roberto 83 ---> 85

MALLO, Hugo 83 ---> 85

TÚÑEZ, Andrés 80 ---> 84/83

LÓPEZ, Alex 82 ---> 84/85

OUBIÑA, Borja 82 ---> 83

ASPAS, Iago 82 ---> 85

BERGARA, Markel 83 ---> 85/86

ILLARRAMENDI, Asier 83 ---> 85

DOMÍNGUEZ, Juan 83--->85/84

CRISTIAN, Gómez 82 ---> 83

FONTE, Rui 82 ---> 83

MONTANES, Paco 84 ---> 85

TIMOR, David 82 ---> 83

LOE, Raoul 81 ---> 82

Under 80 risers (only the ones predicted as certain risers)

OUESLATI, Kader 77---> 80

ÓLIVER, Torres 75---> 76

FABRICE, Olinga 75 ---> 78/80

RUIZ DE GALARRETA, Iñigo 78 ---> 80

ISMAEL, López 77 ---> 84

JAIME, Jiménez 78 ---> 82

LOLO, Manuel 75 ---> 77

LEO, Baptistão 77 ---> 82

GARCÌA, Rubén 75 ---> 78/80

ÁLVAREZ, Sergio 78 ---> 80

TONI, Dovale 77 ---> 80

ROS, Javi 78 ---> 80

LONGO, Samuele 77 ---> 82

RODRÍGUEZ, Víctor 78 ---> 82

Big risers (+3 or more)

OUESLATI, Kader 77---> 80

PORTILLO, Francisco 80 ---> 84

FABRICE, Olinga 75 ---> 78/80

CICINHO, Mendonça 84---> 87

ISMAEL, López 77 ---> 84

XIMO, Navarro 82 ---> 85

JAIME, Jiménez 78 ---> 82

VALIENTE, Marc 80 ---> 83

PEREZ, Víctor 80 ---> 84/83

LEO, Baptistão 77 ---> 82

GARCÌA, Rubén 75 ---> 78/80

ASPAS, Iago 82 ---> 85

TONI, Dovale 77 ---> 80

LONGO, Samuele 77 ---> 82

RODRÍGUEZ, Víctor 78 ---> 82

85+ Droppers (predicted as certain droppers)

ABIDAL, Éric 92 ---> 91 90

PUYOL, Carles 96 ---> 95 94

CARVALHO, Ricardo 92 ---> 90 91

KAKA, Ricardo 94 ---> 93 92

SILVIO, Azevedo 88---> 87

KAMENI, Carlos 88 ---> 87

ONYEWU, Oguchi 87 ---> 86

DUDA, Sergio 88 ---> 87

BAPTISTA, Júlio 88 ---> 86/87

LOPEZ, Diego 90 ---> 89

MARTI, Josep Lluís 87 ---> 86

ANGEL, López 87 ---> 86

PERQUIS, Damien 88 ---> 87

CALATAYUD, Juan 85 ---> 84

SEVILLA, Salva 85 ---> 84

JUANITO, Gutiérrez 87 ---> 85

MATABUENA, Sergio 85 ---> 82

CODINA, Jordi 86 ---> 85

MANE, José 88 ---> 87

GAVILAN, Jaime 87 ---> 86

GUIZA, Daniel 87 ---> 86

ARANA, Manuel 85 ---> 84

DEL HORNO, Asier 86 ---> 84

SERRANO, Óscar 86 ---> 85/84

FARINOS, Francisco 86 ---> 84

PARK, Chu-young 88 ---> 87/86

MARTÍNEZ, Carlos 86 ---> 85

AYOZE, Díaz 87--->86

SANTOS, André 87--->86

VÁZQUEZ, Jesús 85--->84

CASILLA, Kiko 85 ---> 84/83

GALÁN, Ernesto 85 ---> 83/84

MATTIONI, Felipe 85 ---> 83

COLOTTO, Diego 88 ---> 87

ALBÍN, Juan 87 ---> 86

SIMÃO, Sabrosa 88 ---> 87

FRANCO, Leo 85 ---> 84/83

OBRADOVIC, Ivan 86 ---> 85

LANZARO, Maurizio 85 ---> 84/83

ROBERTO, Fernández 85 ---> 84

CORTES, David 85 ---> 83

DIAKHATE, **** 88 ---> 87

YEBDA, Hassan 87 ---> 86

HURTADO, Moisés 86 ---> 84/85

FLANO, Miguel 88 ---> 87

RUBEN, González 85 ---> 84/83

PUNAL, Patxi 87 ---> 86

SHOJAEI, Masoud 86 ---> 84

That where i would disagree, but most im on the same page great job :P

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No 89 for Griezmann?

I'd be very surprised if he did' date=' neither he or Sociedad have been playing well enough to warrant him reaching 89 this time around. Talented player though who I personally like quite a lot.

Great job Kazzer, repped!

Just one question mate. Don´t you think Jesus Gamez from Malaga has some chances to rise? He´s their captain, he´s a starter for many seasons, he´s very good going forward, Malaga is doing great both in La Liga and Champions League. I assume you know all this, but maybe you underestimated him? I would like to get your opinion on him.

Cheers!

Thanks. Gamez has impressed me the last few games, particularly as you say going forward, I have seen some poor defensive errors from him which is why i haven't put a rise in for him. However considering how well they are doing both in La Liga and the CL plus the minutes he's racking up then for sure he has a chance to rise, I will amend his prediction now thanks.

Thanks for the predictions!

Hope you don't mind that I sum up your predictions here. I've made some categories to make it easier for everyone to find what they are looking for.

Dont mind at all thanks. When i make changes to the ratings as i for sure will do when the ratings are due to be done then i'll post up any important changes to be noted.

I have a couple of questions about Filipe Luis. I haven't seen him play more than a few times in Europa League so I really can't judge how good he is.

Why don't you think he will rise and what is his strengths and weaknesses?

His stats are very good and Atletico is doing really well so judging by that one could think he will rise to 90.

I'll be honest and say i don't rate him too highly, particularly last season i thought he was a weak link. I've seen a lot of Atletico this season though have not noticed him much, which is probably a good thing means he's not really doing anything wrong. I wouldn't say its impossible for him to get 90 but i'm not really expecting it, might change the rating prediction to a chance of a rise if Atletico continue their recent form between now and the review.

I also think not playing in the Champions League will make it harder for guys lik Filipe to rise as it for sure has an affect, though they are on course to be a CL team its only 9 games into the season and anything can happen so for me it'd come as a surprise if he went to 90 next changes.

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Courtois to 90?

Starter for:

5th place team in La Liga last season/tied 1st this season

Europa League Champions

European Super Cup Champions

Belgian National Team

Stats:

11/12

La Liga - 37 starts

Europa League - 15 starts

12/13

La Liga - 6 starts (2 clean sheets)

Belgium - 4 starts (2 WCQ)

i doubt so. 89 is more realistic

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I have seen all Atletico matches and I would say that your Atletico´s predictions are not the same I would predict.

For me, with Falcao, the great surprises are MARIO SUAREZ and JOAO MIRANDA.

MARIO SUAREZ should rise to 90. He is the key in the midfield.

MIRANDA should rise +1 without doubts. The best player in the back. Miranda is much better than GODIN.

Falcao could rise +2. In my opinion, I think that is excessive to put him in the three best players of the world, but,NOWADAYS, the most important in the football´s world,is the goal, and Falcao is the GOAL MAN.

As same as Godin, I think that Turan is not a +1 sure. He is playing same as the last year.

Luis FILIPE should rise to 91. In my opinion, he is the best in his position with Jordi Alba in the LIGA BBVA. The majority of goals Falcao scored, they are assistans from him.

Thanks You. See you soon.

AUPA ATLETI

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Luis FILIPE should rise to 91. In my opinion' date=' he is the best in his position with Jordi Alba in the LIGA BBVA. The majority of goals Falcao scored, they are assistans from him.

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That's awfully strange... Falcao has scored 10 goals in BBVA this year and Luis Filipe has 1 assist in BBVA so far this year.

How do yoe come to the conclusion that Filipe has assist on most of Falcaos goals? :confused::eek:

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Regarding Atletico Madrid, i watched them a lot this season, and they´re doing great, continuing the great form of the end of the last season, and that has to be reflected in their ratings, they´re way underrated. And your predictions reflects that very well Kazer, which is great.

Falcao is a sure riser, i think everybody agrees with that, but 93 seems fair for him now. If he was playing at Barça or Real, a 94 would be very possible now, but he's not.

About Luis Filipe, he impressed me since last season, i think he has good chances to rise to 90. I rate him more than Kazer, but i don´t rate him as high as Uljfalusi3.

About Arda Turan, i think he fully deserves to rise, he was good last season, but he´s much better this season. It´s hardly the same. Now that Diego is gone, he plays a much more important role in the team, and he has more freedom, which is good for him and for the team. Atletico missed his creativity in the last games, because he was out injured.

Courtois and Mario Suarez are obvious risers, very important players, Juanfran too. Koke and Diego Costa also deserve to rise. Raul Garcia has been playing very well lately, but not enough for a rise yet i guess. And Godin and Miranda have good chances to rise too, they´re making a great partnership. A rise would be fair for both.

I think Kazer's predictions for Atletico are great, i would only give a chance to Luis Filipe to rise. Cheers.

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Whats the chance of these players to rise in the next reviews and to what ratings?

Alba

Turan

imo Alba 60% to 92 40% to 91

Turan 80% to 91 20% stay

u sure PUYOL guarantee a drop?

i thought he's injured

Yes' date=' 96 is a very high rating and when he has played he has not justified that rating, another injury shouldn't save him from an inevitable drop.

I have seen all Atletico matches and I would say that your Atletico´s predictions are not the same I would predict.

For me, with Falcao, the great surprises are MARIO SUAREZ and JOAO MIRANDA.

MARIO SUAREZ should rise to 90. He is the key in the midfield.

MIRANDA should rise +1 without doubts. The best player in the back. Miranda is much better than GODIN.

Falcao could rise +2. In my opinion, I think that is excessive to put him in the three best players of the world, but,NOWADAYS, the most important in the football´s world,is the goal, and Falcao is the GOAL MAN.

As same as Godin, I think that Turan is not a +1 sure. He is playing same as the last year.

Luis FILIPE should rise to 91. In my opinion, he is the best in his position with Jordi Alba in the LIGA BBVA. The majority of goals Falcao scored, they are assistans from him.

Thanks You. See you soon.

AUPA ATLETI

Miranda i have predicted for a +1 with a small chance of stay. I think him and Godin are equally as good and make a good partnership together, both should rise. The reason i haven't put Godin down as a small chance of staying is because he has international games to further back up his claim for a rise.

Mario Suarez i have down for +1 as i think that is fair for now, possible/probable further +1 to take him to 90 next changes but should not go straight to 90 just yet imo.

Falcao will not get 94, despite being the "goal man". I would like to point you in the direction of Mario Gomez, current rating 93 and has been 93 for 2+ years. In the past two seasons he scored 80 goals in 97 games for Bayern Munich and 13 in 19 for Germany. Falcao boasts similarly impressive numbers at Atletico and Columbia, however Bayern are a higher ranked club who have been reaching the latter stages of the Champions League and indeed the final last season, meanwhile Atletico have been in the "Mickey Mouse" European competition, big difference between the two when it comes to importance regarding ratings. Germany are a higher ranked international team who have been reaching the latter stages of major World competitions, Columbia are not the same level.

There is no doubt he's a class act, arguably the best CF in the World right now, however if Gomez can't go 93-94 then there is no way Falcao will go 92-94 ;)

Turan should get +1, great player who is the real spark in the team, for me he has improved since last season and as Atletico seem to also have improved it is pretty fair to say he should rise.

Oh and Luis Filipe to 91? No.

Regarding Atletico Madrid' date=' i watched them a lot this season, and they´re doing great, continuing the great form of the end of the last season, and that has to be reflected in their ratings, they´re way underrated. And your predictions reflects that very well Kazer, which is great.

Falcao is a sure riser, i think everybody agrees with that, but 93 seems fair for him now. If he was playing at Barça or Real, a 94 would be very possible now, but he's not.

About Luis Filipe, he impressed me since last season, i think he has good chances to rise to 90. I rate him more than Kazer, but i don´t rate him as high as Uljfalusi3.

About Arda Turan, i think he fully deserves to rise, he was good last season, but he´s much better this season. It´s hardly the same. Now that Diego is gone, he plays a much more important role in the team, and he has more freedom, which is good for him and for the team. Atletico missed his creativity in the last games, because he was out injured.

Courtois and Mario Suarez are obvious risers, very important players, Juanfran too. Koke and Diego Costa also deserve to rise. Raul Garcia has been playing very well lately, but not enough for a rise yet i guess. And Godin and Miranda have good chances to rise too, they´re making a great partnership. A rise would be fair for both.

I think Kazer's predictions for Atletico are great, i would only give a chance to Luis Filipe to rise. Cheers.[/quote']

Thanks for that, appreciated. I like to hear what others who regularly see La Liga or particular teams have to say. Regarding Luis Filipe, i saw him again last night and thought he was pretty much a passenger, really ineffective and for me the weak link of the team. The whole team had a bad game though, and as you feel he has a good chance to rise i will edit the prediction accordingly, though i'll only give him a small chance of it as i just dont like him :P

Thanks

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That's awfully strange... Falcao has scored 10 goals in BBVA this year and Luis Filipe has 1 assist in BBVA so far this year.

How do yoe come to the conclusion that Filipe has assist on most of Falcaos goals? :confused::eek:

Im spanish, so Im sorry about my english... I would want to say that Filipe seems a winger rising the side (I dont know how it said "SUBIR LA BANDA"). Juanfran has given more assistants but he is playing worse than last year. I prefer so much Filipe than Juanfran.

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Re: Liga BBVA Ratings 2012/2013

Thanks for that' date=' appreciated. I like to hear what others who regularly see La Liga or particular teams have to say. Regarding Luis Filipe, i saw him again last night and thought he was pretty much a passenger, really ineffective and for me the weak link of the team. The whole team had a bad game though, and as you feel he has a good chance to rise i will edit the prediction accordingly, though i'll only give him a small chance of it as i just dont like him :P

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Thanks for taking my opinion into account mate, appreciated too. Yes, he wasn't that great last night, but i saw him making good games already. Arda Turan was clearly the best Atletico's player last night, he showed his importance and it will be unfair if he does not get a rise. Cheers!

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