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You could submit a bug ticket, but my guess is that SM are already fully aware of how screwed up the match engine is, how much work it needs.

But remember, just because they know does not mean that they will apologize to you.

SM kind of works the way God would, if it existed. It's your fault, then something changes, which you should be grateful for, unless it changed for the worse, in which case it was God's will, but still ultimately your fault.

Grin and bear it, man. Hopefully they hire another programmer soon. I think the recent modifications they didn't tell us about were designed to provide that "WOW" factor that cup games have in real life, where Grimsby can beat Liverpool, Wimbeldon can win it all, and Bradford can beat Arsenal.

The only thing they never considered is how changing the engine specifically for cup matches opens up an opportunity to lose to an unmanaged 3rd-tier club in abject disrepair, despite doing everything you had to in order to secure a victory.

If SM is a race to the moon, we are the monkeys they shot into the Ionosphere back in the 50's.

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I think if you check out England's stats in real life you will see that they have a very similar ratio :) So this can happen in real life. I think too many people are quick to blame the match engine when they lose rather than look at themselves. Whether the engine is good or bad, it's the same for all of us. It doesn't single people out.

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I think if you check out England's stats in real life you will see that they have a very similar ratio :) So this can happen in real life.

So, where's the "practice penalty kicks more, so you don't get humiliated in the 90's" button, or the one labelled "ensure players don't take bribes from gangsters"?

I think that, if there was anything more to the penalty shootout, other than the fact that we are occasionally subjected to it, i might be inclined to agree with you. That said, the only factor in this is the match engine, so what else could be responsible.

Unless... Do you want me to believe that Damian Reeves is a better penalty taker, a sleeping giant, and my Hazard and Messi are secretly duds?

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I think that' date=' if there was anything more to the penalty shootout, other than the fact that we are occasionally subjected to it, i might be inclined to agree with you. That said, the only factor in this is the match engine, so what else could be responsible.

Unless... Do you want me to believe that Damian Reeves is a better penalty taker, a sleeping giant, and my Hazard and Messi are secretly duds?[/quote']

Well I would agree that extra-time should be played before it goes to penalty kicks. However, as a manager has no influence on a penalty shoot-out (don't even get to choose who takes the kicks) then the outcome must be the same as tossing a coin or do you imagine that the match engine decides that some managers can win 9 out of 10 shoot outs but someone else can only win one??

As for Damian Reeves being a better penalty taker than Messi, well surely you are aware that as soon as your game world kicked off it went from being a realistic set up to a fantasy? Or do you think that just because you were clever enough to sign Messi that that should automatically entitle you to 90% victories?

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As for Damian Reeves being a better penalty taker than Messi' date=' well surely you are aware that as soon as your game world kicked off it went from being a realistic set up to a fantasy? Or do you think that just because you were clever enough to sign Messi that that should automatically entitle you to 90% victories?[/quote']

No, i think that if i was clever enough to put a squad together that has a .825 win%, that should probably equate to the aspects of the game that i am unable to control, i.e., if i have 5 players known for taking penalty kicks, and arguably the best shot stopper in the game, i should be afforded a little leeway against, say, an unmanaged 3rd division club that playing exhausted players of substantially lower caliber.

If i can beat managed clubs, in regulation time, then why should i have to accept being subjected to a coin toss at all? Anyone who has ever been involved in a penalty shootout knows full well that they are not coin tosses. And even if they are coin tosses, why should a comparison as ridiculous as the England one mean that it's alright for well-managed clubs

to go 1 for 10?

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If i can beat managed clubs' date=' in regulation time, then why should i have to accept being subjected to a coin toss at all? Anyone who has ever been involved in a penalty shootout knows full well that they are not coin tosses. And even if they are coin tosses, why should a comparison as ridiculous as the England one mean that it's alright for well-managed clubs

to go 1 for 10?[/quote']

I don't think that the comparison with England is a ridiculous one. Just merely stating a fact to support my opinion that things in football don't always go how you expect. After all, considering Englands standing in the FIFA rankings over the years, I don't think many people would expect them to lose 6 out of 7 penalty shoot outs.

Anyway, I don't disagree that the Match Engine needs some attention and I understand your point of view. However, I think that for unmanaged clubs the match engine provides a little bias to help them win more games to counter the fact that the AI managed clubs do not develop their squads in the same way the human managed clubs do. I am sure you know as well as I do that in most game worlds the unmanaged clubs are regularly stripped of their best payers often in exchange for 2 rubbish players that no human manager with a brain cell would accept. Therefore I believe it is highly likely that SM keeps the unmanaged clubs competitive by giving them a higher probability of winning even when playing higher rated teams.

Until SM are able to provide unmanaged teams with an Assistant Manager that is a little more savvy in keeping his best players and actually tries to poach good players instead of just giving them away for peanuts this will always be the case.

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I don't think that the comparison with England is a ridiculous one. Just merely stating a fact to support my opinion that things in football don't always go how you expect. After all' date=' considering Englands standing in the FIFA rankings over the years, I don't think many people would expect them to lose 6 out of 7 penalty shoot outs...[/quote']

England's history with penalties is more to do with corruption and mismanagement, than it is to do with skill. In contrast to that, both myself and the OP are upset because we are not corrupt, or inept managers. Your point about unmanaged clubs is valid, but how much hope should we be holding out in a decade-old game world that is almost always at 40% capacity? Why would that even be a priority for SM? Many older game worlds are past the point of no return, they have eroded to a point where the game world tends to dictate its own shape.

If we're going to have penalties, than we need extra time first. And i should be afforded the opportunity to swap in my remaining substitutions, gauge when and if i am capable of launching an attack. Should that still not determine a winner between me and Colo Colo, or whoever, then i should at the very least be permitted to instruct 5 attacking players, not Vidic and Pique, to take the penalty kicks.

Specifically concerning goals and missed spot kicks, my concern is that, since acquiring Messi last season, he has missed 3 of 3 penalties for which he has been responsible. This is absurd, especially considering the players who have scored. All it would take is a Dead Ball Specialist designation (lol, Rooney can't have one). That little tag would boost likelihood by an aggreed-upon amount, leaving everyone else to this coin toss you're after.

If messi misses another penalty, i'm selling him straight up for cash. Why keep him, when clearly Chris Hogg is the breakfast of champions.

Please tell me you understand this.

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If we're going to have penalties' date=' than we need extra time first.

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If you bother to read my replies you will see that I already said this.

That little tag would boost likelihood by an aggreed-upon amount, leaving everyone else to this coin toss you're after.

I didn't say that I am after a coin toss. I actually said that, because we as managers have no opportunity to affect the outcome of a penalty shoot out, it must be just a coin toss as to who wins. At no point did i say I agree with this or even want this.

Whatever, perhaps you are right. Maybe you should sell Messi and buy a player in your GW that produces better results to see if that makes a difference.

Good luck and hope your fortunes improve whatever you decide.

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