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This referee haha

Daley Blind has been injured by an Oscar 'dive' where it's implied there's been no contact. So surely Blind is diving too? xD

this is another reason why this game shouldnt be played in the first place, what if his injury turns out to be serious? What did he get it for For a game thats worth as much as a friendly?

bah, if i were in Blinds or in his club's shoes, id be fuming...

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Holland unlike Germany showed mercy to Brazil tonight' date=' going up 2-0 early on and keeping the scoreline respectable :P

Happy with 3rd place, better than second in a way[/quote']

because you feel better :P that Brazil didnt get a medal and you did :P

and if you are 2nd that means u missed out on 1st :(

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Hulk has been massively disappointing in this world cup' date=' not even mentioning the obvious Fred and Jo who have been non existent. With a better striker like Luiz Adriano, Pato or Lima, Brazil may have actually had a chance[/quote']

I'd just like to add this:

Scolari - being the absolute genius that he is :P - didn't even include Miranda (the best Brazilian CB, this season) or Filipe Luís in his 23 man squad.

Marcelo was abysmal against Germany and Maxwell was terrible against Holland. I bet Filipe Luís would have done a much better job. And choosing Dante over Miranda, wow... I simply have no words to describe that. :eek:

Scolari also ignored 2 quality players, who could have given some pace, creativity, etc to Brazil's game - Lucas Moura and Firmino. He decided to take Hulk and Bernard instead, oh well... :o

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I'd just like to add this:

Scolari - being the absolute genius that he is :P - didn't even include Miranda (the best Brazilian CB' date=' this season) or Filipe Luís in his 23 man squad.

Marcelo was abysmal against Germany and Maxwell was terrible against Holland. I bet Filipe Luís would have done a much better job. And choosing Dante over Miranda, wow... I simply have no words to describe that. :eek:

Scolari also ignored 2 quality players, who could have given some pace, creativity, etc to Brazil's game - Lucas Moura and Firmino. He decided to take Hulk and Bernard instead, oh well... :o[/quote']

----------------Cesar-----------------

-Rafinha---Silva--Miranda---Luis----

--------Fernando-Fernandinho-------

--Lucas------Coutinho-----Firmino--

---------------Neymar----------------

(Possibly Hernanes for Fernandinho and Willian for Firmino)

Yep, quite a lot of mistakes.

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----------------Cesar-----------------

-Rafinha---Silva--Miranda---Luis----

--------Fernando-Fernandinho-------

--Lucas------Coutinho-----Firmino--

---------------Neymar----------------

(Possibly Hernanes for Fernandinho and Willian for Firmino)

Yep' date=' quite a lot of mistakes.[/quote']

You wouldn't have Oscar in the team?!

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----------------Cesar-----------------

-Rafinha---Silva--Miranda---Luis----

--------Fernando-Fernandinho-------

--Lucas------Coutinho-----Firmino--

---------------Neymar----------------

(Possibly Hernanes for Fernandinho and Willian for Firmino)

Yep' date=' quite a lot of mistakes.[/quote']

Lucas does diddly squat for Brazil but he's still better than Hulk. I wouldn't have had Julio Cesar as no 1.

R.Carbral

Alves Silva Marquinhos Marcelo

David Luiz L.GUSTAVO

Firmino oSCAR Neymar

HULK/JO

:D

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So the population of North Korea actually believe that they've reached the WC final and will play tonight against Portugal.That's....nice.(not really)

I saw that... Poor people :o

And I don't just mean thinking that they're in the final when I say that. Imagine having the guy from Team America as leader...

Edit: Ha, says the Brit.

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Because he's surrounded by pish.

A front four of

Lucas - Oscar - Willian

-------Neymar-------

would mean that he wouldn't have all of the weight of creativity on his shoulders alone and it wouldn't be so forced.

Agreed' date=' Oscar should really be the 2nd name on the team sheet after Thiago Silva.

I would have gone with:

[center']Julio Cesar

Dani Alves - Thiago Silva - Dede - Maxwell

Paulinho - Luiz Gustavo

Neymar - Oscar - Willian

Fred[/center]

Being realistic, Filipe Luis & Miranda just arent ready to be chucked into the NT, even Castan could of been a good option but - as we saw with Dante - absolute lack of international football as a defensive unit was fatal for Brazil. Look back at the previous WC squads, they had a experienced backline. Juan & Lucio with Maicon in 2010, 2006 Roberto Carlos, Juan, Lucio & Cafu.., 2002 Lucio, Edmilson, Roque Junior.

I would of gone with a proper defender like Dede, although his form was up and down last 12 months he has been decent, and domestically based. Maxwell over Marcelo purely for defensive work and tactical discipline. Adriano doesnt get much game time for Barca these days but he would of been the kind of player for LB.

Paulinho & Willian to give them an engine room, but most of the time Paulinho didnt seem to know what his instructions were, i felt for him because he was such a top player before he came to Spurs.

Hernanes should of been used more, and Lucas Moura should of gone rather than the ineffective and lightweight Bernard - why he was there im shocked, he has hardly featured for Shakthar and mentally fatigued from homesickness apparently.

The main issue is CF - Brazil simply dont have one. Fred is the best they have. If they wanted to really address the problem, they should of called up an unknown who has been in hot goal scoring form. 2 names come to mind, ALAN of RB Salzburg, & ELKESON from Guangzhou Evergrande.

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;2952448']Agreed' date=' Oscar should really be the 2nd name on the team sheet after Thiago Silva.

I would have gone with:

[center']Julio Cesar

Dani Alves - Thiago Silva - Dede - Maxwell

Paulinho - Luiz Gustavo

Neymar - Oscar - Willian

Fred[/center]

Being realistic, Filipe Luis & Miranda just arent ready to be chucked into the NT, even Castan could of been a good option but - as we saw with Dante - absolute lack of international football as a defensive unit was fatal for Brazil.

I would of gone with a proper defender like Dede, although his form was up and down last 12 months he has been decent.Maxwell over Marcelo purely for defensive work and tactical discipline. Adriano doesnt get much game time for Barca these days but he would of been the kind of player for LB.

Paulinho & Willian to give them an engine room, but most of the time Paulinho didnt seem to know what his instructions were, i felt for him because he was such a top player before he came to Spurs.

Hernanes should of been used more, and Lucas Moura should of gone rather than the ineffective and lightweight Bernard - why he was there im shocked, he has hardly featured for Shakthar and mentally fatigued from homesickness apparently.

The main issue is CF - Brazil simply dont have one. Fred is the best they have. If they wanted to really address the problem, they should of called up an unknown who has been in hot goal scoring form. 2 names come to mind, ALAN of RB Salzburg, & ELKESON from Guangzhou Evergrande.

Your team is practically the same like Scolari has done then apart from Luiz,Hulk. If you have no good CF to play that role,why Brazil should use it? They should accomodate the formation according their players. Spain won Euro 2012 without strikers,Germany mainly used strikerless formation recently. Brazil have good bunch of AM these days,why not make it to something like this upfront

Lucas Moura----Oscar;

Firmino-----Neymar;

Firmino and Neymar are not the real number 9,but Brazil attack will be much more fluid rather than when they use Hulk and Fred in the team

Firmino is one of hot form Brazilian last season with his goals and assists yet he's overlooked. He could do the job

with Coutinho,Willian still on the bench. CF should be plan B for Brazil,like Klose to Germany

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Your team is practically the same like Scolari has done then apart from Luiz' date='Hulk. If you have no good CF to play that role,why Brazil should use it? They should accomodate the formation according their players. Spain won Euro 2012 without strikers,Germany mainly used strikerless formation recently. Brazil have good bunch of AM these days,why not make it to something like this upfront

Lucas Moura----Oscar;

Firmino-----Neymar;

Firmino and Neymar are not the real number 9,but Brazil attack will be much more fluid rather than when they use Hulk and Fred in the team

Firmino is one of hot form Brazilian last season with his goals and assists yet he's overlooked. He could do the job

with Coutinho,Willian still on the bench. CF should be plan B for Brazil,like Klose to Germany[/quote']

Yeah it is pretty much the same because it works, bar the players i removed who where horrendous and at fault for a vast majority of the goals against them.

David Luiz, Dante, Marcelo, Hulk.

They have utilised this formation for years in preparion for the WC, they cant switch it at the last minute.

Its not Freds problem they cant develop a true CF, he showed his quality in the role on the CONFED cup and he has been missing due to injury last 12months but they need one as a hold up man and a box predator. Playing Neymar & another as a floating pair wouldnt work as its too lightweight, and so offensive you would just encounter the same pressure on the defensive unit if not even greater.

Cant just take Firmino, he has no experience is more of the same they have already. Same with Coutinho. Id have picked Lucas Moura and Hernanes over them all day long. They both have time on there side to be integrated.

I actually think this is could be a wake for Brazil, and im going to put it out there that they could be winning the next WC with the side they have in the U23 category.

Doria, Juan Jesus, Marquinhos to come in and learn under Thiago Silva to form a experienced and solid backline. New fullbacks need to be introduced, Dani Alves & Marcelo days should be numbered, Marcelo possibly may still have a role but no full backs stick out in my mind coming through to the Olympic side. Douglas Santos has been used alot, and Wendell joing Leverkusen could be a good one to watch. Also Gabriel Silva & Portos Alex Sandro & Danilo worth a mention.

They have plenty of young DMs and AMs to bring though also - inlcuding Firmino & Coutinho. Paulinho, Luis Gustavo will still be there, and David Luiz should be shifted to a DM role but someone has to put shackles on him.

Oscar will be the jewel in the crown for the next 10 years no doubt in my mind, and Neymar to be the poster boy.

The two trouble spots will remain at CF & Goalkeeper.

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;2952472']Yeah it is pretty much the same because it works' date=' bar the players i removed who where horrendous and at fault for a vast majority of the goals against them.

David Luiz, Dante, Marcelo, Hulk.

They have utilised this formation for years in preparion for the WC, they cant switch it at the last minute.

Its not Freds problem they cant develop a true CF, he showed his quality in the role on the CONFED cup and he has been missing due to injury last 12months but they need one as a hold up man and a box predator. Playing Neymar & another as a floating pair wouldnt work as its too lightweight, and so offensive you would just encounter the same pressure on the defensive unit if not even greater.

Cant just take Firmino, he has no experience is more of the same they have already. Same with Coutinho. Id have picked Lucas Moura and Hernanes over them all day long. They both have time on there side to be integrated.

I actually think this is could be a wake for Brazil, and im going to put it out there that they could be winning the next WC with the side they have in the U23 category.

Doria, Juan Jesus, Marquinhos to come in and learn under Thiago Silva to form a experienced and solid backline. New fullbacks need to be introduced, Dani Alves & Marcelo days should be numbered, Marcelo possibly may still have a role but no full backs stick out in my mind coming through to the Olympic side. Douglas Santos has been used alot, and Wendell joing Leverkusen could be a good one to watch. Also Gabriel Silva & Portos Alex Sandro & Danilo worth a mention.

They have plenty of young DMs and AMs to bring though also - inlcuding Firmino & Coutinho. Paulinho, Luis Gustavo will still be there.

Oscar will be the jewel in the crown for the next 10 years no doubt in my mind, and Neymar to be the poster boy.

The two trouble spots will remain at CF & Goalkeeper.[/quote']

In short, Brazil has tons of quality players.:D

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