koplfc 8,417 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Re: FA Cup Anyone else reckon the FA Cup isn't the same as it was with the matches and highlights on ITV instead of BBC? I hate the way there was like 8 ad breaks last night That's why you record it and then forward the ad's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BenReado 3,954 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Re: FA Cup Just watched the FA Cup highlights:Tiote's challenge was 100% a red card. You simply cannot jump into a tackle in that manner. The fact that he got the ball is irrelevent. He is not in control and is in severe danger of breaking the Stevenage player's leg should he make contact. Shocking tackle. The Arsenal penalty was a penalty for me. If the Leeds defender hadn't have dragged Walcott's arm back' date=' he wouldn't have fallen off balance and would have had a clearer sight at goal. Right decision, although I would concede that it's not entirely consistant with other similar calls.[/quote'] Spot on. When giving a foul referee's have to put the tackle in a category to decide whether a card is needed and if so whether it's yellow or red. These are the guidelines given: “Careless” indicates that the player has not exercised due caution in making a play.“Reckless” means that the player has made unnatural movements designed to intimidate an opponent or to gain an unfair advantage. “Involving excessive force” means that the player has far exceeded the use of force necessary to make a fair play for the ball and has placed the opponent in considerable danger of bodily harm. Careless: Miss timed challenge. Player went for the ball, but the challenge was late. No damage done. Foul, No card. Reckless: Player makes a challenge knowing he's got no (or little) chance of winning the tackle. The challenge is unnecessary and cause potentially cause injury. Yellow Card Excessive force: A player lunges in at a speed that could cause a player a serious injury. Whether he wins the ball or not is irrelevant. Red Card Based on that the red card is definitely correct. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Barry MUFC 5,216 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Re: FA Cup That's why you record it and then forward the ad's. I'd rather watch it then record it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgeECFC 4,430 Posted January 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Re: FA Cup Once again El-Hadji Diouf proves himself to be a complete scumbag. Jamie Mackie suffers a double fracture of his leg, and Diouf starts abusing him and calling him a disgrace This coming from the idiot that whilst playing in France was convicted of driving without a licence, and in England has found guilty of spitting on Arjan de Zeeuw, and fans of both Celtic and Middlesbrough, has been accused of racism towards a ball-boy, and then arrested and charged with more motor offences in April last year. No Diouf, you are the disgrace and the sooner this scum is kicked out of the British football, the better. He's had far too many chances and it's time Blackburn had enough and get rid of him. Sack the moron and hope that nobody else is stupid enough to sign him. I rarely agree with Neil Warnock, but it's hard to argue with this quote; "I think for many years I think he's been the 'gutter' type of boy. I was going to call him a sewer rat, but that might insult the sewer rats. I think he's the lowest of the low. Burrow27 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andyowls 11,740 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Re: FA Cup After seeing it again' date=' I still think its the worst red card I have seen a Newcastle player given. If he wasn't in control of himself then the law says its wreckles. I think he was. He started high, yes, but the fact that when he made contact his foot was on the floor, no studs showing tells me it was a great tackle.Just my honest opinion. It wont be changed either.[/quote'] Sorry Dai, but if players continue to lunge into tackles the way Tiote did then more and more players are going to get seriously hurt. Tackles like that need to be stamped out of the game, otherwise younger players are going to think they are acceptable. You never, ever get taught to jump with both feet off the ground into a tackle like that, so Tiote doesn't have a leg to stand on (pardon the pun). Once again El-Hadji Diouf proves himself to be a complete scumbag. Jamie Mackie suffers a double fracture of his leg' date=' and Diouf starts abusing him and calling him a disgrace This coming from the idiot that whilst playing in France was convicted of driving without a licence, and in England has found guilty of spitting on Arjan de Zeeuw, and fans of both Celtic and Middlesbrough, has been accused of racism towards a ball-boy, and then arrested and charged with more motor offences in April last year. No Diouf, you are the disgrace and the sooner this scum is kicked out of the British football, the better. He's had far too many chances and it's time Blackburn had enough and get rid of him. Sack the moron and hope that nobody else is stupid enough to sign him. I rarely agree with Neil Warnock, but it's hard to argue with this quote;[/quote'] For the first time in my life, I think I'm agreeing with something Warnock has said! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
swanseajack 11,413 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Re: FA Cup Liverpool Line-Up Prediction: Reina Johnson Skrtel Carragher Aurelio Meireles J.Cole Pacheco Gerrard Kuyt Torres Manchester United Line-Up Prediction: Kuszczak Rafael Ferdinand Vidic Evra Gibson Carrick Anderson Giggs Berbatov Hernandez Liverpool correct - 7/11 Man. United correct - 8/11 Shocking penalty, why does Howard Webb continue to referee big Man. United matches Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stuart H 19,818 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Re: FA Cup I think this is very similar to the Walcott penalty. Definitely contact (so you can argue a penalty is the right decision) but Berbatov certainly milked it. Don't know why Agger made the challenge in the first place; Berbatov had lost control of the ball and was running away from goal... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RoKo7 3,252 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Re: FA Cup I think this is very similar to the Walcott penalty. Definitely contact (so you can argue a penalty is the right decision) but Berbatov certainly milked it. Don't know why Agger made the challenge in the first place; Berbatov had lost control of the ball and was running away from goal... This is the key really isn't it? Webb will probably get a lot of stick for this (not helped by Jim Beglin's bleating on ITV) but Agger made contact when there was absolutely no need to do so. Stupid challenge and he got what he deserved, the referee is perfectly entitled to give it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
swanseajack 11,413 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Re: FA Cup I think this is very similar to the Walcott penalty. Definitely contact (so you can argue a penalty is the right decision) but Berbatov certainly milked it. Don't know why Agger made the challenge in the first place; Berbatov had lost control of the ball and was running away from goal... Walcott was in a dangerous position, Berbatov wasn't and he didn't make any sort of attempt to do anything other then fall to the floor. It was never a penalty, and infact Berbatov should be given a yellow card for that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Magic J 10,640 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Re: FA Cup Walcott was in a dangerous position' date=' Berbatov wasn't and he didn't make any sort of attempt to do anything other then fall to the floor. It was never a penalty, and infact Berbatov should be given a yellow card for that.[/quote']There was contact though..... that would open up a whole can of worms if refs started booking people for going down IF contact was made. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stuart H 19,818 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Re: FA Cup Walcott was in a dangerous position' date=' Berbatov wasn't and he didn't make any sort of attempt to do anything other then fall to the floor. It was never a penalty, and infact Berbatov should be given a yellow card for that.[/quote']It's still in the penalty area Diving directly in front of goal is no different to diving right on the edge of the area... Point is, Agger made contact and Webb is right to give the penalty. The fact that Berbatov milked it is disappointing but understandable considering he was going nowhere with the ball. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vermillian Sparrow 58 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Re: FA Cup Once again El-Hadji Diouf proves himself to be a complete scumbag. Jamie Mackie suffers a double fracture of his leg' date=' and Diouf starts abusing him and calling him a disgrace This coming from the idiot that whilst playing in France was convicted of driving without a licence, and in England has found guilty of spitting on Arjan de Zeeuw, and fans of both Celtic and Middlesbrough, has been accused of racism towards a ball-boy, and then arrested and charged with more motor offences in April last year. No Diouf, you are the disgrace and the sooner this scum is kicked out of the British football, the better. He's had far too many chances and it's time Blackburn had enough and get rid of him. Sack the moron and hope that nobody else is stupid enough to sign him. I rarely agree with Neil Warnock, but it's hard to argue with this quote;[/quote'] Having seen Warnocks quote this morning I originally thought he was going off on one of his little rants, but having seen the incident I wholeheartedly agree with Warnock. Diouf is just a joke of a player and should never have been brought to the premiership in the first place, thank you Mr Houllier! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RoKo7 3,252 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Re: FA Cup There was contact though..... that would open up a whole can of worms if refs started booking people for going down IF contact was made. ^ This It's still in the penalty area Diving directly in front of goal is no different to diving right on the edge of the area... Point is' date=' Agger made contact and Webb is right to give the penalty. The fact that Berbatov milked it is disappointing but understandable considering he was going nowhere with the ball.[/quote']^ and this. He's exaggerated the contact, which he's perfectly entitled to do once Agger has gotten himself into such a ridiculous position. Maybe it's dishonest but it's also professional. An if we're talking dishonesty then what is Agger running to the ref claiming no contact when he's clearly touched the striker? Nobody ever seems quite as incensed about that as they do the evils of diving though. andyowls 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kylan N17 2,768 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Re: FA Cup Is anyone watching the Tottenham-Charlton match online? I can't find a stream anywhere, there seems to only be live audio only streams. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Synyster 7,705 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Re: FA Cup Games over now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stuart H 19,818 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Re: FA Cup Gerrard off. Good decision. Very similar to Tiote yesterday. Liverpool unlucky mind; they haven't been playing badly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dannyb01y 1,693 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Re: FA Cup Cant lunge like that, dangerous, had to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
swanseajack 11,413 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Re: FA Cup Yes Gerrard jumped in a little rashly, but so did Michael Carrick. Gerrard was just in a far better position to win the ball and Carrick clattered into Gerrard hurting himself. No way is that a red card, there needs to be a sub to compensate for that red card. Webb off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RoKo7 3,252 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Re: FA Cup If ITV are going to let Jim Beglin do these games then at least make him take off his Liverpool tinted specs first, woeful. (and for the record I'd like them to win this, but at least try to sound impartial if it's your job.) Right decision again, moronic from Gerrard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chazza 1,608 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Re: FA Cup Derseved a booking for me but it was dangerous play. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mancini' 10 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Re: FA Cup Could Rafael of been flagged for the same thing? Who knows, looks Liverpool got into a good spell then too, they will be hoping for a draw now but it could get worse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stuart H 19,818 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Re: FA Cup Yes Gerrard jumped in a little rashly' date=' but so did Michael Carrick. Gerrard was just in a far better position to win the ball and Carrick clattered into Gerrard hurting himself.No way is that a red card, there needs to be a sub to compensate for that red card. Webb off.[/quote'] He's off the ground completely and has no control over what he does. If Carrick takes the ball first and Gerrard goes into his leg, his career's over. Very dangerous tackle. Webb's got both decisions right... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Synyster 7,705 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Re: FA Cup If ITV are going to let Jim Beglin do these games then at least make him take off his Liverpool tinted specs first' date=' woeful. (and for the record I'd like them to win this, but at least try to sound impartial if it's your job.)Right decision again, moronic from Gerrard.[/quote'] Then Andy Gray should take off his United tinted glasses thats why I can't watch Sky Sports, Jim Beglin can do what he wants Quote Link to post Share on other sites
swanseajack 11,413 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Re: FA Cup If ITV are going to let Jim Beglin do these games then at least make him take off his Liverpool tinted specs first' date=' woeful. (and for the record I'd like them to win this, but at least try to sound impartial if it's your job.)Right decision again, moronic from Gerrard.[/quote'] Ok then Rafael & Carrick both need to be sent off, as does Darren Fletcher. If that was been given as a yellow then nothing would be said. It's clearly a bookable offence, for me it was more like is he going to give him a yellow, or is he going to let him off and then he pulled out the red. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dannyb01y 1,693 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Re: FA Cup Rafael didnt catch the man, gerrrard did. Frustration probably. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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