MagnusCarlsen 128 Report post Posted June 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Sir Rahul said: Plays as a RB Wing back sometimes, but he never plays full back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigGameMo 2,987 Report post Posted June 11, 2017 Salah's no rise is such bull. Screw your bull SM. The guy put up 20 goals and 15 assists in 40 games. WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT FROM HIM?! Racism is the only explanation I can think of. 1 BrutBrutBrut reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hail Mary 212 Report post Posted June 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, BigGameMo said: Salah's no rise is such bull. Screw your bull SM. The guy put up 20 goals and 15 assists in 40 games. WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT FROM HIM?! Racism is the only explanation I can think of. Racism lol. Plenty of players have been missed, including Insigne who had a similar season to Salah. SW are a lot of things- good for nothing, incompetent, useless, hopeless, but not racist lol. They don't discriminate against anyway, everyone is equally missed 4 Soccahappy, Gavin Peers, TMCosta and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hail Mary 212 Report post Posted June 11, 2017 16 hours ago, thorgan lesar said: Since when is Felipe Anderson playing in the defence ? Someone in SW needed a right back so converted him to play there in the game. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monolithic 840 Report post Posted June 11, 2017 15 minutes ago, BigGameMo said: Salah's no rise is such bull. Screw your bull SM. The guy put up 20 goals and 15 assists in 40 games. WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT FROM HIM?! Racism is the only explanation I can think of. Oh dear... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Rahul 4,078 Report post Posted June 11, 2017 1 hour ago, MagnusCarlsen said: Wing back sometimes, but he never plays full back. I meant in-game Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MagnusCarlsen 128 Report post Posted June 11, 2017 Paredes stays at 88 and Zielinski got +2 to 90 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigGameMo 2,987 Report post Posted June 11, 2017 54 minutes ago, Hail Mary said: Racism lol. Plenty of players have been missed, including Insigne who had a similar season to Salah. SW are a lot of things- good for nothing, incompetent, useless, hopeless, but not racist lol. They don't discriminate against anyway, everyone is equally missed 48 minutes ago, Monolithic said: Oh dear... To be clear, I'm not talking about blatant racism of "he's not white so we won't give him a rise." I'm talking more subtle... you get an English player or European player with Salah's stats and he's a definite 92, perhaps even a 93. I believe subconsciously that whoever does the ratings for SM (we all know it's not soccer wiki consensus, but some guy behind the curtain) saw Salah's stats or his name or whatever and subconsciously thought that based on his background, it probably wouldn't be wrong to make him wait longer to get his rise. That's subtle racism, even if you consider racism to be a loaded term. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monolithic 840 Report post Posted June 11, 2017 4 hours ago, BigGameMo said: To be clear, I'm not talking about blatant racism of "he's not white so we won't give him a rise." I'm talking more subtle... you get an English player or European player with Salah's stats and he's a definite 92, perhaps even a 93. I believe subconsciously that whoever does the ratings for SM (we all know it's not soccer wiki consensus, but some guy behind the curtain) saw Salah's stats or his name or whatever and subconsciously thought that based on his background, it probably wouldn't be wrong to make him wait longer to get his rise. That's subtle racism, even if you consider racism to be a loaded term. It's just not true though is it. Plenty of Roma first teamers aren't even rated 91 and there plenty of other high scoring players in Italy and the other leagues who aren't rated higher. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrutBrutBrut 191 Report post Posted June 11, 2017 13 minutes ago, Monolithic said: It's just not true though is it. Plenty of Roma first teamers aren't even rated 91 and there plenty of other high scoring players in Italy and the other leagues who aren't rated higher. I am sorry, but I wholeheartedly agree that SALAH should be 92. When you look at some of the other 91 rated players in that position: VITOLO, STERLING, LALLANA ...their numbers don't even come close to SALAH this season. Absolute travesty. I think CALLEJON should have also got a 92. Ridiculous oversight by SM. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thorgan lesar 853 Report post Posted June 11, 2017 Tomorrow starts Belgium ? Or is it Italy again ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hail Mary 212 Report post Posted June 11, 2017 25 minutes ago, thorgan lesar said: Tomorrow starts Belgium ? Or is it Italy again ? I think Russia is next. Italy will still be going on for a few more days. Don't think they're done with Roma yet and they haven't even started Juve. They're only updating a couple of players a day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thorgan lesar 853 Report post Posted June 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Hail Mary said: I think Russia is next. Italy will still be going on for a few more days. Don't think they're done with Roma yet and they haven't even started Juve. They're only updating a couple of players a day. Dybala got a +2 from Juve. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bear Alba 17 Report post Posted June 11, 2017 Any info on the 2 juve youngsters added today? Cheers 1 thorgan lesar reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soccahappy 4,802 Report post Posted June 11, 2017 12 hours ago, BigGameMo said: Salah's no rise is such bull. Screw your bull SM. The guy put up 20 goals and 15 assists in 40 games. WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT FROM HIM?! Racism is the only explanation I can think of. I've got Salah & think he should of got a rise BUT SM have missed over 40 others who should have got a rise. I have been a massive critic of SM & still am BUT all I can say to any hint of racism by SM over Salah missing out ... is Small game Mo, very small. You should retract the slur rather than try to defend a defenceless accusation. 1 Kev reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kev 725 Report post Posted June 11, 2017 13 minutes ago, Soccahappy said: I've got Salah & think he should of got a rise BUT SM have missed over 40 others who should have got a rise. I have been a massive critic of SM & still am BUT all I can say to any hint of racism by SM over Salah missing out ... is Small game Mo, very small. You should retract the slur rather than try to defend a defenceless accusation. Agreed. I've seen no sign of racism in the ratings ever. There are plenty of people I think should have rises but haven't, and it's nothing to do with racism... unless SM are aliens and are simply racist against humans. 1 Soccahappy reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigGameMo 2,987 Report post Posted June 11, 2017 Listen, it might just be that they're ignorant/incompetent, I concede that. I'm not trying to build a hard and fast case for racism here. But I'm saying there are few, if any, cases of missing rises that are more definite than Salah, and it does make you wonder if it is more than just incompetence at work here. After all, Strootman, Nainggolan, Dzeko, Emerson were all given risers...the only other definite riser on Roma's team was Salah. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monolithic 840 Report post Posted June 11, 2017 10 hours ago, BrutBrutBrut said: I am sorry, but I wholeheartedly agree that SALAH should be 92. When you look at some of the other 91 rated players in that position: VITOLO, STERLING, LALLANA ...their numbers don't even come close to SALAH this season. Absolute travesty. I think CALLEJON should have also got a 92. Ridiculous oversight by SM. I didn't say anything about Salah not being worthy of 92. I simply said that him not being 92 certainly does not mean that the person doing the review is in any way racist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monolithic 840 Report post Posted June 11, 2017 1 hour ago, BigGameMo said: Listen, it might just be that they're ignorant/incompetent, I concede that. I'm not trying to build a hard and fast case for racism here. But I'm saying there are few, if any, cases of missing rises that are more definite than Salah, and it does make you wonder if it is more than just incompetence at work here. After all, Strootman, Nainggolan, Dzeko, Emerson were all given risers...the only other definite riser on Roma's team was Salah. Peres? As another poster said, the review of Roma may well not be finished yet so this is all rather nonsensical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1000dB 382 Report post Posted June 11, 2017 2 hours ago, BigGameMo said: Listen, it might just be that they're ignorant/incompetent, I concede that. I'm not trying to build a hard and fast case for racism here. But I'm saying there are few, if any, cases of missing rises that are more definite than Salah, and it does make you wonder if it is more than just incompetence at work here. After all, Strootman, Nainggolan, Dzeko, Emerson were all given risers...the only other definite riser on Roma's team was Salah. Paredes definitely could have been given a rise, Peres maybe, Rudiger is young and plays for the world champions Germany. That's all from only 1 team and the Roma players that haven't had a rise might still get one. Ozil has been invisible for years and plays for a poor joke of a club yet he's still rated 94 (affirmative action?), Benzema this season was the most overpaid foil ever (also highly rated, i.e. 94, but he at least plays for a top top club), Auba's 95, and so on, and so on. Ratings should be purely based on merit. That the biggest clubs help increase their players rating is already a bit sinful. Besides Roma haven't won anything, they aren't that big in Europe (lots of clubs ahead of them), they couldn't even get into the CL plus were knocked out early in the EL this year and Serie A is only the 4th ranked league. Not only have many players been overlooked there are entire leagues that are underrated. Do the guys at SM suffer from ligaphobia? 1 Sir Rahul reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nico66 2,893 Report post Posted June 12, 2017 Well the good news is that it would seem that the Italian review is finally over (I won't say complete). The bad news is that it appears that the next review has not yet started. How much holiday do these guys have?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Der Chefscout 169 Report post Posted June 12, 2017 i hope that Higuain and Alex Sandro get a +1 rise tomorrow. 2 Huggy and Hfazil reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soccahappy 4,802 Report post Posted June 12, 2017 16 hours ago, BigGameMo said: Listen, it might just be that they're ignorant/incompetent, I concede that. I'm not trying to build a hard and fast case for racism here. But I'm saying there are few, if any, cases of missing rises that are more definite than Salah, and it does make you wonder if it is more than just incompetence at work here. After all, Strootman, Nainggolan, Dzeko, Emerson were all given risers...the only other definite riser on Roma's team was Salah. Man-up & apologise for accusing SM of racism over something so silly as missing a rating increase. Then & only then can you be taken seriously. I could accuse them of being racist about not dealing with cheats but that would be equally stupid, ignorent & just plain wrong. Up to you, as I say just apologise, surely you can see there is not an ounce of truth in what you said? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arsenalrocs 1,687 Report post Posted June 12, 2017 Andre Silva to AC Milan, think Milan are carrying out excellent business this summer 4 Huggy, Sir Rahul, Dot I Dot and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kev 725 Report post Posted June 12, 2017 Anyone know anything about Juventus under 19 player Simone MURATORE ? Added today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
