BrutBrutBrut 201 Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 9 hours ago, Sir Rahul said: tbh Lee is more of a long-term investment Yeah...I guess, but the hype can only last so long. Eventually a player has to actually put some of that 'hype' into practise, or be written off as a 'could have been'. I am going to go off on a bit of an opinionated, ill-informed rant here...but I think LEE was kind of doomed to fail. Barca's La Masia is tipped as 'the place' for developing youth talent...and developing superstars. MESSI, XAVI, INESTA, FABREGAS...etc. But...part of me thinks that it was just Pep's willingness to promote from the B team during his tenure. It was somewhat of a 'golden era'. With the current MSN front line of Barca,,,there seems to be no room to promote from the B team...and I have seen a complete lack of willingness to give LEE a proper shot in the first team. One only has to look at his age of 19 (not 18 or 17) and the fact that there is talk of him going out on loan...to realise that the initial hype has been misplaced. I am beginning to think that he will go the way of M. ODEGAARD with Real. A promising youngster, who transferred to a club that that had no practical use for him. La Masia is only great...if it, or someone, actually uses the greatness that it hones. IMO...clubs like Ajax and Monaco are far more promising their youth system, based solely on the fact that they are using and promoting the youth talent within their ranks. I was lucky enough to sign DE LIGT when he was 16, after reading a blog post about him. Now look at him! His international country performances aside he is starting most of their first team games now (including the big ones)...and has started for them in the Europa cup final! He is only 17! Barca would never do that now, even with their cherished La Masia and for this reason, I think that La Masia may be dead. Sir Rahul, L.J and thorgan lesar 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hoochy koochy 218 Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 On 6/15/2017 at 7:44 AM, BrutBrutBrut said: Pointless comment. Where else are managers going to find out who to sell, buy and keep? go and find other threads.. or play the game and stop being lazy, Not seen a single contribution from you. Even i have asked for an opinion of a player or deals but "get out of here" with nonsense about should i keep bla bla bla...will bla bla rise... should i do this deal with bla bla... will my milk expire if i dont open the cap bla bla.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hoochy koochy 218 Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 On 6/15/2017 at 8:08 AM, Hail Mary said: Do some research of their own could be a start. You have people asking who to buy, sell, what deals to accept/reject, what tactics to play- it's laughable. Why even play the game lol. spot on... you are one of the originals on here and have hit the nail on the head for me on the point im trying to make. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hoochy koochy 218 Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 On 6/15/2017 at 10:28 AM, thorgan lesar said: But if you don't know a player and someone knows him really well, then you can ask, right ? Like me yesterday. I asked an opinion about Junior Agnero, because I don't found a lot of information, so I asked it here. If it bothers you I will go to a minimum of questions and will research. I use my knowledge then, but I don't follow all the players. And if I can ask: What about Miguel Bengolea ? Do you know sites I can use for my research (transfermarkt.com, soccerway .....) ? Thanx in advance Sorry for my bad english it is totally ok to ask... even i have in the past.. but when it is repeatative with looooooong lists spamming the thread...it is annoying and killing the liveliness. Talking about new plyers is a good one... the guys who do ratings is cos they enjoy that and share their great knowledge... its fun to predict etc... but to take it for granted and insulting them is bang out of order... people need to get back in their shells and show respect instead of demanding on here. thorgan lesar and Sir Rahul 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thorgan lesar 2,129 Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 45 minutes ago, hoochy koochy said: go and find other threads.. or play the game and stop being lazy, Not seen a single contribution from you. Even i have asked for an opinion of a player or deals but "get out of here" with nonsense about should i keep bla bla bla...will bla bla rise... should i do this deal with bla bla... will my milk expire if i dont open the cap bla bla.. ? I don't understand one thing. This tread is called "Worldwide risers", so the question "who will rise" is relevant to this topic. One more thing: If you create a topic on your own, the chance you get an answer is low. Here can people ask about opinions and they know they will get an opinion. That's all I'm going to say about that. The person who asked and got his answer needs to say 'Thank you' or giving 'a like' to show some respect to Sir Rahul and Arsenalrocs. That happens not all the time. Hfazil, BrutBrutBrut, Sir Rahul and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thorgan lesar 2,129 Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 8 minutes ago, hoochy koochy said: it is totally ok to ask... even i have in the past.. but when it is repeatative with looooooong lists spamming the thread...it is annoying and killing the liveliness. Talking about new plyers is a good one... the guys who do ratings is cos they enjoy that and share their great knowledge... its fun to predict etc... but to take it for granted and insulting them is bang out of order... people need to get back in their shells and show respect instead of demanding on here. Totally agree hoochy koochy and Mr Gangie 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrutBrutBrut 201 Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 1 hour ago, hoochy koochy said: go and find other threads.. or play the game and stop being lazy, Not seen a single contribution from you. Even i have asked for an opinion of a player or deals but "get out of here" with nonsense about should i keep bla bla bla...will bla bla rise... should i do this deal with bla bla... will my milk expire if i dont open the cap bla bla.. "How do you know when new players are created? I mean beyond going through the frustrating process of searching every day for a specific name. Is there some kind of list that exists? Need to know when: Amine Gouiri Jann-Fiete Arp Jadon Sancho Yacine Adli ...are created. Need to snap them up." Page 106...go look it up son...and I have another one for you: LUCIANIHO ... although it might take a while for him to be generated. Have you got anything to offer? Because as it happens, I haven't seen anything from you, you lazy f***. You chat a good game, but you have contributed nothing you scummer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrutBrutBrut 201 Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 2 hours ago, BrutBrutBrut said: "How do you know when new players are created? I mean beyond going through the frustrating process of searching every day for a specific name. Is there some kind of list that exists? Need to know when: Amine Gouiri Jann-Fiete Arp Jadon Sancho Yacine Adli ...are created. Need to snap them up." Page 106...go look it up son...and I have another one for you: LUCIANIHO ... although it might take a while for him to be generated. Have you got anything to offer? Because as it happens, I haven't seen anything from you, you lazy f***. You chat a good game, but you have contributed nothing you scummer. [ SILENCE ] ... thought not. Embarrassing. Go back to sleep little girl. Der Chefscout 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arsenalrocs 1,687 Posted June 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 18 hours ago, Mr Gangie said: Anyone got a predicted rating for the man CHALOV? +5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michaeleyre1 35 Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 Come on guys lets not ruin the best thread on the forum with pointless arguments. It's just a game - try to enjoy it for what it is. hoochy koochy, arsenalrocs, thorgan lesar and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monolithic 841 Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 A massive +1 for Lazare Amani today. The Russian review also continues with some of the lower teams updated. thorgan lesar and Der Chefscout 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nico66 2,894 Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 On 16/06/2017 at 4:48 AM, Nico66 said: Ezatolahi may get a modest rise if anything. Hyped as being the next Azmoun but so far has not lived up to expectations. Made a few appearances for Rostov before being loaned out to Anzhi, where he mostly started on the bench. I would say a +2 to 80 wouldn't be out of the question this next review but he will have to step up a notch or two to get any further (in my opinion). Okay, a +4 then... meh,,, a bit generous though in my opinion but, nonetheless, I was still out with my prediction. Monolithic and BrutBrutBrut 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monolithic 841 Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 11 minutes ago, Nico66 said: Okay, a +4 then... meh,,, a bit generous though in my opinion but, nonetheless, I was still out with my prediction. I guess playing for the national team may have helped with his rise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrutBrutBrut 201 Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 49 minutes ago, Michaeleyre1 said: Come on guys lets not ruin the best thread on the forum with pointless arguments. It's just a game - try to enjoy it for what it is. Back to positive chat... 40 minutes ago, Nico66 said: Okay, a +4 then... meh,,, a bit generous though in my opinion but, nonetheless, I was still out with my prediction. ...this is an affirmation of why this thread is so good. Purchased him along with ODRIOZOLA on the recommendation of you guys, so thank you to whoever suggested him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nico66 2,894 Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 36 minutes ago, Monolithic said: I guess playing for the national team may have helped with his rise. It's possible I suppose. But when you think Golovin only rose to 85 for all his achievements and Eza is now only 3 ratings behind it doesn't make much sense to me. Oh well.... Monolithic 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monolithic 841 Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 33 minutes ago, Nico66 said: It's possible I suppose. But when you think Golovin only rose to 85 for all his achievements and Eza is now only 3 ratings behind it doesn't make much sense to me. Oh well.... I certainly agree that Golovin should have had a bigger rise. Maybe he might still get another when all of CSKA are reviewed... Iran are perhaps the number one side in Asia right now which probably influenced them somewhat. Nico66 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kev 907 Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 14 hours ago, BrutBrutBrut said: "How do you know when new players are created? I mean beyond going through the frustrating process of searching every day for a specific name. Is there some kind of list that exists? Need to know when: Amine Gouiri Jann-Fiete Arp Jadon Sancho Yacine Adli ...are created. Need to snap them up." Not sure if this has been answered, but yes, there is a list of new players created. It's updated every day usually. In the "News" section on the main page. Click the graph/arrow icon and it's in there. Today's new additions: Position Nat Player Age Club RatingValue D(C) A.ROGEL19Nacional77£400kGK V.SOROMYTKO22SKA Khabarovsk70£100kD,DM(C) I.UDALYI32Anzhi Makhachkala77£147kDM,M(C) N.KALINSKY23SKA Khabarovsk76£320kM(C) A.DRUZIN30SKA Khabarovsk77£279kF(C) J.LESCANO24SKA Khabarovsk78£400kF(C) N.DYACHENKO21SKA Khabarovsk70£100kD(C) N.RADCHENKO21SKA Khabarovsk70£100k Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thorgan lesar 2,129 Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 2 hours ago, Kev said: Not sure if this has been answered, but yes, there is a list of new players created. It's updated every day usually. In the "News" section on the main page. Click the graph/arrow icon and it's in there. Today's new additions: Position Nat Player Age Club RatingValue D(C) A.ROGEL19Nacional77£400kGK V.SOROMYTKO22SKA Khabarovsk70£100kD,DM(C) I.UDALYI32Anzhi Makhachkala77£147kDM,M(C) N.KALINSKY23SKA Khabarovsk76£320kM(C) A.DRUZIN30SKA Khabarovsk77£279kF(C) J.LESCANO24SKA Khabarovsk78£400kF(C) N.DYACHENKO21SKA Khabarovsk70£100kD(C) N.RADCHENKO21SKA Khabarovsk70£100k Is Rogel a player with potential in your opinion ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
omardalvi 10 Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 On 6/15/2017 at 8:34 PM, thorgan lesar said: Actually I would be surprised if he gets a rise Hans Vanaken, because he played the entire season on very low level. In the play-offs he played okay. So to get a +1, it looks like 25/75. If you want a player for long term from Belgium, I recommend you Ruslan Malinovskiy. I dont really want a player from Belgium. Wanted a long term player though. Most are taken, thought Valaken would be decent. Bit confused now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thorgan lesar 2,129 Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 37 minutes ago, omardalvi said: I dont really want a player from Belgium. Wanted a long term player though. Most are taken, thought Valaken would be decent. Bit confused now Nothing confused about. He is okay for a club as Club Brugge, but a level higher would be too much too ask. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thorgan lesar 2,129 Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 OFFICIAL: Jordi Mboula from FC Barcelona to AS Monaco. 18 years old and a nice talent. Will rise soon Sir Rahul, TMCosta and Der Chefscout 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kev 907 Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 4 hours ago, thorgan lesar said: Is Rogel a player with potential in your opinion ? To be honest I don't know much about him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thorgan lesar 2,129 Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 Is it possible to give me a system or a link where I can find talent from around the world ? I have 2 huge concurrents in my competition and they are good. They found players like Oriol Busquets, Santiago Bueno, Yeferson Soteldo, Jérémy Guillemenot, Joaquin Ardaiz, Francisco Feuillassier, Justin Kluivert and Alexander Isak. So my goal is find players like that before them. Anyone knows some site/system/.. ? Thanx in advance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
franpollo 144 Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 Hi guys. I need of a couple of CB who, probably, will rise to 91-92-93 in the next years Quote Link to post Share on other sites
L.J 5 Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 On 6/16/2017 at 8:53 PM, BrutBrutBrut said: Yeah...I guess, but the hype can only last so long. Eventually a player has to actually put some of that 'hype' into practise, or be written off as a 'could have been'. I am going to go off on a bit of an opinionated, ill-informed rant here...but I think LEE was kind of doomed to fail. Barca's La Masia is tipped as 'the place' for developing youth talent...and developing superstars. MESSI, XAVI, INESTA, FABREGAS...etc. But...part of me thinks that it was just Pep's willingness to promote from the B team during his tenure. It was somewhat of a 'golden era'. With the current MSN front line of Barca,,,there seems to be no room to promote from the B team...and I have seen a complete lack of willingness to give LEE a proper shot in the first team. One only has to look at his age of 19 (not 18 or 17) and the fact that there is talk of him going out on loan...to realise that the initial hype has been misplaced. I am beginning to think that he will go the way of M. ODEGAARD with Real. A promising youngster, who transferred to a club that that had no practical use for him. La Masia is only great...if it, or someone, actually uses the greatness that it hones. IMO...clubs like Ajax and Monaco are far more promising their youth system, based solely on the fact that they are using and promoting the youth talent within their ranks. I was lucky enough to sign DE LIGT when he was 16, after reading a blog post about him. Now look at him! His international country performances aside he is starting most of their first team games now (including the big ones)...and has started for them in the Europa cup final! He is only 17! Barca would never do that now, even with their cherished La Masia and for this reason, I think that La Masia may be dead. I got De Ligt for 240k- probably my best buy of the last 12 months, although Gnabry was quite good for 2.1m... I agree with other people on here that Victor Jensen is a good prospect & i think Jean-victor Makengo is a good investment having just signed for Nice. BrutBrutBrut 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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