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David Stepanek
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Age: 20
Position: DM, M ( C )
Club: Vysocina Jihlava
Rating: 75
Predicted rating: 78

Started 16 matches and came on 4 times.

Martin Hasek
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Age: 21
Position: M, AM(RL)
Club: Bohemians 1905
Rating: 76
Predicted rating: 80

Started 18 games and scored 2 goals.

Ladislav Krejci
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Age: 18
Position: AM, F(RL)
Club: Zbrojovka Brno 
Rating: 70
Predicted rating: 75

Started 6 games and came on as a sub 6 times.

Filip Panak
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Age: 21
Position: M ( C )
Club: MFK Karvina
Rating: 73
Predicted rating: 77

Started 10 games, came on as a sub 13 times and scored 3 goals.

Ubong Ekpai
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Age: 21
Position: AM, F(RL)
Club: Slovan Liberac
Rating: 73
Predicted rating: 76/77

On loan from Maccabi Haifa. Started 8 games, came on as a sub 5 times and scored 3 goals.

Zinedin Mustedanagic
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Age: 18
Position: M, AM ( C )
Club: Dukla Praha
Rating: 75
Predicted rating: 78

On loan from Sparta Prague. Started 8 games and scored 1 goal.

Michal Bezpalec
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Age: 20
Position: AM (RLC)
Club: Dukla Praha
Rating: 73 
Predicted rating: 78

Started 16 games, came on as a sub once and scored 1 goal.

Peter Olayinka
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Age: 21
Position: AM, F (RC)
Club: Dukla Praha
Rating: 77
Predicted rating: 80

Started 21 games, came on as a sub 5 times and scored 6 goals.

Ibrahim Traore
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Age: 28
Position: AM, F(RLC)
Club: FC Zlin
Rating: 75
Predicted rating: 78

Started 15 matches and came on as a sub 5 times.

Michal Sacek
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Age: 20
Position: M, AM ( C )
Club: Sparta Praha
Rating: 75
Predicted rating: 80

Started 10 games and came on as a sub once.

Vyacheslav Karavaev
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Age: 21
Position: D, DM, M ( R )
Club: Sparta Praha
Rating: 82
Predicted rating: 84

Started 23 games and scored 3 goals.

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3 hours ago, The punch said:

Gabriel jesus +1 89 ? 4 goal 3 assist for only 460mins great, 25m transfermakt

Nope

3 hours ago, El profesor said:

Keep an eye on Daleho Irandust in Swedish BK Häcken, been impressiv so far.

Nice spot

2 hours ago, Dasylver said:

Please After Championship review, which league will be next? 

Probably Russia or Ukraine

21 minutes ago, The punch said:

saúl níguez +1 100%, he is decisive with A.Madrid

Would be fully deserved IMO.

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12 hours ago, arsenalrocs said:

Squad cap for Spartak seems reasonable to me. They never made it to the group stage of the Europa League in the last 5 years or so. Was the best club in Russia in the 1990s but have fallen off the pace since then. Promes has been rewarded for his consistency and improvement and has risen in every one of the reviews for the past 3 years. Unless, SM decide to give all key players a +1 for winning the league, I don't see Promes rising.

As for Ljajic and Torino, I would say that the squad cap is 88. You would need to contribute more than a regular first teamer does to go above 88 and that is exactly what SM have given Ljajic already. Unless Belotti rises, I can't see Ljajic rising because it wouldn't make sense for him and Belotti to have the same rating.

Spartak just won and guess who scored the only goal...highest rated player of the match, PROMES ;)

All this 'squad cap' business is a bit worrying if it is really how Soccerwiki operates. It is like saying that a player's rating is based on the team and league that they play for...rather than their actual skill and performances.

...it's like saying (for example) that "if KOVACIC played for Lyon or Ajax...he would be an 88, but because he plays for Real Madrid he is a 90. Irregardless of whether his performances and skill would remain the same in these instances."

No wonder Soccerwiki often takes it upon itself to give a player an arbitrary +1 when they transfer to a big club. It is shameful...and a good player is a good player. The fact that they play at a big club or not should have no influence on their rating.

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1 hour ago, BrutBrutBrut said:

Spartak just won and guess who scored the only goal...highest rated player of the match, PROMES ;)

All this 'squad cap' business is a bit worrying if it is really how Soccerwiki operates. It is like saying that a player's rating is based on the team and league that they play for...rather than their actual skill and performances.

...it's like saying (for example) that "if KOVACIC played for Lyon or Ajax...he would be an 88, but because he plays for Real Madrid he is a 90. Irregardless of whether his performances and skill would remain the same in these instances."

No wonder Soccerwiki often takes it upon itself to give a player an arbitrary +1 when they transfer to a big club. It is shameful...and a good player is a good player. The fact that they play at a big club or not should have no influence on their rating.

I think the Soccerwiki project had great potential but failed in it's implementation & well .... the community basis NEVER HAPPENED. I give it 4 out of 10. BUT I wouldn't blame SW for the squad cap situation as it was in from very early on & SW is relatively recent. SM's Invention & I don't mind it myself. Good players progress example Suarez, Netherland, England-Liverpool & Spain-Barca.

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2 hours ago, BrutBrutBrut said:

Spartak just won and guess who scored the only goal...highest rated player of the match, PROMES ;)

All this 'squad cap' business is a bit worrying if it is really how Soccerwiki operates. It is like saying that a player's rating is based on the team and league that they play for...rather than their actual skill and performances.

...it's like saying (for example) that "if KOVACIC played for Lyon or Ajax...he would be an 88, but because he plays for Real Madrid he is a 90. Irregardless of whether his performances and skill would remain the same in these instances."

No wonder Soccerwiki often takes it upon itself to give a player an arbitrary +1 when they transfer to a big club. It is shameful...and a good player is a good player. The fact that they play at a big club or not should have no influence on their rating.

I've been thinking the exact same for ages. Doesn't seem the right way to do things for me. 

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11 minutes ago, Kev said:

I've been thinking the exact same for ages. Doesn't seem the right way to do things for me. 

I wish I had been more observant last year when Leicester won the prem. I don't know...but I am willing to bet that Soccerwiki was slow to increase Leicester player ratings over the season...stating "oh well there is a squad cap for Leicester" and "we can't possibly go over the cap". Basically, from what arsenalrocs is saying, unless the team is Man United, Chelsea, Man City etc...soccerwiki wants several seasons of consistent excellence before they would even consider raising the cap for any other team of players. As we saw with Leicester, a team doesn't have to be consistently excellent over several seasons to have players that are good enough to win the EPL...does the squad cap system reflect this?

 

I don't even think that there should be a cap that 'determines' player ratings...not in the way that Soccerwiki seems to be implementing it anywho.

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2 hours ago, BrutBrutBrut said:

Spartak just won and guess who scored the only goal...highest rated player of the match, PROMES ;)

All this 'squad cap' business is a bit worrying if it is really how Soccerwiki operates. It is like saying that a player's rating is based on the team and league that they play for...rather than their actual skill and performances.

...it's like saying (for example) that "if KOVACIC played for Lyon or Ajax...he would be an 88, but because he plays for Real Madrid he is a 90. Irregardless of whether his performances and skill would remain the same in these instances."

No wonder Soccerwiki often takes it upon itself to give a player an arbitrary +1 when they transfer to a big club. It is shameful...and a good player is a good player. The fact that they play at a big club or not should have no influence on their rating.

14 hours ago, arsenalrocs said:

Squad cap for Spartak seems reasonable to me. They never made it to the group stage of the Europa League in the last 5 years or so. Was the best club in Russia in the 1990s but have fallen off the pace since then. Promes has been rewarded for his consistency and improvement and has risen in every one of the reviews for the past 3 years. Unless, SM decide to give all key players a +1 for winning the league, I don't see Promes rising.

As for Ljajic and Torino, I would say that the squad cap is 88. You would need to contribute more than a regular first teamer does to go above 88 and that is exactly what SM have given Ljajic already. Unless Belotti rises, I can't see Ljajic rising because it wouldn't make sense for him and Belotti to have the same rating.

...I should also mention that Torino snatched a one all draw with Juventus this evening.

The Torino goal scorer?

 

That's right. You guessed it. Adem LJAJIC. :) Just saying.

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3 hours ago, BrutBrutBrut said:

...I should also mention that Torino snatched a one all draw with Juventus this evening.

The Torino goal scorer?

 

That's right. You guessed it. Adem LJAJIC. :) Just saying.

Ljajic cannot be rated the same as Belotti, and 91 for Belotti shouldn't happen as it's too soon, besides they gave him a big +3 to 90. So both should stay for now.

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42 minutes ago, Sir Rahul said:

Ljajic cannot be rated the same as Belotti, and 91 for Belotti shouldn't happen as it's too soon, besides they gave him a big +3 to 90. So both should stay for now.

Belotti rise 91, 25 goal 6 assist in serie a, international and very very market value 80-100m, maybe move man u or chelsea.

we'll see

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5 hours ago, The punch said:

Belotti rise 91, 25 goal 6 assist in serie a, international and very very market value 80-100m, maybe move man u or chelsea.

we'll see

 

13 minutes ago, MagnusCarlsen said:

Belotti will fail at a big club. He's Immobile 2.0 ... nothing special.

Belotti's evaluation lies between both of your opinions.

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14 hours ago, The punch said:

no no, france

Germany 100%

 

50 minutes ago, MagnusCarlsen said:

Belotti will fail at a big club. He's Immobile 2.0 ... nothing special.

Come on, be serious... Belotti is much more stronger than Immobile

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12 hours ago, BrutBrutBrut said:

I wish I had been more observant last year when Leicester won the prem. I don't know...but I am willing to bet that Soccerwiki was slow to increase Leicester player ratings over the season...stating "oh well there is a squad cap for Leicester" and "we can't possibly go over the cap". Basically, from what arsenalrocs is saying, unless the team is Man United, Chelsea, Man City etc...soccerwiki wants several seasons of consistent excellence before they would even consider raising the cap for any other team of players. As we saw with Leicester, a team doesn't have to be consistently excellent over several seasons to have players that are good enough to win the EPL...does the squad cap system reflect this?

 

I don't even think that there should be a cap that 'determines' player ratings...not in the way that Soccerwiki seems to be implementing it anywho.

The squad cap system reflects the average performance of a team based on achievements and league position. In the case of Leicester, their squad cap is around 90 and I think that is fair considering that they are now 8th. If SM had raised the squad cap to say 92, they would have to give everyone a drop in this review. Considering that the nature of player reviews is slow and progressive, it just wouldn't be possible to have such fluctuations. 

15 hours ago, BrutBrutBrut said:

Spartak just won and guess who scored the only goal...highest rated player of the match, PROMES ;)

All this 'squad cap' business is a bit worrying if it is really how Soccerwiki operates. It is like saying that a player's rating is based on the team and league that they play for...rather than their actual skill and performances.

...it's like saying (for example) that "if KOVACIC played for Lyon or Ajax...he would be an 88, but because he plays for Real Madrid he is a 90. Irregardless of whether his performances and skill would remain the same in these instances."

No wonder Soccerwiki often takes it upon itself to give a player an arbitrary +1 when they transfer to a big club. It is shameful...and a good player is a good player. The fact that they play at a big club or not should have no influence on their rating.

Like soccahappy mentioned, the squad cap has been here since I first started playing the game and has nothing to do with SW. Don't you think that the team and league you play for matters? If it didn't matter, Hazard would have stayed at Lille and Bale would have stayed at Tottenham. Playing in a bigger league and for a better club allows you to challenge for honours on a higher level and the rating system reflects that. The squad cap is how you would differentiate the Premier League from the Russian Premier League. The squad cap is also how you would differentiate between Chelsea and Spartak Moscow. That aside, I have explained before that SM could very well increase Spartak Moscow's rating cap for winning the league and if that happens, i'm certain Promes will get a +1. Similarly, f Belotti rises, I believe that Ljajic will get a +1 too.

On 5 May 2017 at 4:42 AM, BrutBrutBrut said:

Would appreciate your honest opinions. Thanks guys!

   

Having said all that, there are certainly things that I believe could be improved upon but that is an entirely different topic from player rating predictions. I recognise that the system has its merits and its flaws. But it is what it is and the predictions I make are based on the system that is in place and from past experiences. The predictions made may not necessarily reflect my own subjective opinion of what I think the player should be rated at. For instance, I have said before that Michael Keane plays like a 90 rated defender for Burnley at times. But I accept that there's no way he would get an increase to 90 while he's at Burnley. You could think that my opinion of Promes' and Ljajic's rating is wrong (and there certainly have been times where I was wrong) and that's fine. At the end of the day, it does not matter what you and I think Promes and Ljajic should be at. It only matters what SM thinks. All I do is provide an objective and neutral opinion of what rating I think SM will give them which I believe is the "honest opinion" that you requested for right at the beginning. 

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