Monolithic 841 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, Elephant said: Examples? Not many I can think of (apart from the top teams and Stevens) Check my predictions and look back at the rises they gave to the other 4 second tiers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elephant 41 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, Monolithic said: Check my predictions and look back at the rises they gave to the other 4 second tiers. Sofiane Alakouch - 80 (Interest from Arsenal, potential international with Morocco) Umut Bozok - 80 (Interest from Lyon, Marseille, Galatasaray) Kingsley Schindler - 80 -> 83 (Interest from Bremen? The goal against Wolfsburg in the Relegation Play-off could have sealed his 83 today) That's all I know of lower-league players outside England. The English Championship seems disappointing for folks expecting many 78 --> 82 rises, but I'll see how Alakouch and Bozok do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Rahul 6,505 Posted May 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 1 hour ago, vitor_mfc said: Again, i don't why people are being that harsh on Depay, he was only on a crappy team, looking at that half of the Man Utd team should drop, even after getting 2nd place, awful football. He bounced back right after getting out of there. I said i'm not comparing players, i'm stating that + 3 from 87 to 90 or even from 88 to 91 are not impossible and have been done. And don't forget about Belloti. Anyway, i'm just saying that there is precedent. yes, fair, but Depay didn't help himself. Lopes just doesn't seem like the type to get that big a rise, SM usually add a point or two when they're hype. Belotti was deffo one they got carried away with, +4 to 91 in a season was downright ridiculous. 2 hours ago, Elephant said: 83 for Ryan Sessegnon is puzzling for a player pursued by many top sides, including Real Madrid. Only others shafted were Enda Stevens and Tim Ream. half the league was shafted by over the top drops 53 minutes ago, Tharanidharan said: Players I should keep and I should sell. Potential risers in future. Suggestions pls. I've made some list but it's always best to ask the experts. Gomez, Odegaard, Kluivert, Dolberg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elephant 41 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sir Rahul said: half the league was shafted by over the top drops Ah, fair enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Huggy 47 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 Any chance of a Kevin Diks rise? Or would he have rise when the Eredivisie was reviewed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monolithic 841 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Elephant said: Sofiane Alakouch - 80 (Interest from Arsenal, potential international with Morocco) Umut Bozok - 80 (Interest from Lyon, Marseille, Galatasaray) Kingsley Schindler - 80 -> 83 (Interest from Bremen? The goal against Wolfsburg in the Relegation Play-off could have sealed his 83 today) That's all I know of lower-league players outside England. The English Championship seems disappointing for folks expecting many 78 --> 82 rises, but I'll see how Alakouch and Bozok do. I was referring to the review of all of the players back in the autumn. Not just a select few. My opinion is that the Championship is the strongest second tier in the world by some distance. SM clearly disagree. Nothing more than that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jlammy 130 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 Di Maria or James? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hfazil 236 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 16 minutes ago, jlammy said: Di Maria or James? James Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Middle_Finger 704 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Monolithic said: Check my predictions and look back at the rises they gave to the other 4 second tiers. Did you do predictions for other second tier divs? I couldn't find it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monolithic 841 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 24 minutes ago, Middle_Finger said: Did you do predictions for other second tier divs? I couldn't find it. I was referring to the rises given last year. No point in doing the predictions yet as they won't be updated until next season. Of the promoted sides though, Giovanni de Lorenzo certainly deserves a plus 4 or 5. Bennacer should get a solid rise too. Stace and Middle_Finger 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rogerthat 114 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 Will Buffon survive this round of changes after announcing his departure? I feel that that is dependent on his next club but I have a sneaky feeling that SM will drop him anyway. Will he drop? Why and why not? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hosein ElTimimi 21 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Tharanidharan said: Players I should keep and I should sell. Potential risers in future. Suggestions pls. I've made some list but it's always best to ask the experts. Ofcourse you should keep Dolberg, Kluivert and Gomez. Maybe Odegaard, I don't know where is he now I don't know the rest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hosein ElTimimi 21 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 Will Celtic players be reviewed? Scott Sinclair for example had a great season, can he reach 88? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProfeQuintero 32 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 6 hours ago, Elephant said: 83 for Ryan Sessegnon is puzzling for a player pursued by many top sides, including Real Madrid. Only others shafted were Enda Stevens and Tim Ream. When we scout young players who are attracting big clubs, we do it because they will one day play for giants and rise to be the best players in the game. Let’s take a look at different examples. Leon Bailey is attracting Bayern and just about all the big English clubs. Why will he rise? Because of this interest? No. Because he plays in a top division and is a top performer. arthur for gremio rose from 75 to 87 this past December. Is it because he was connected to Barcelona? No. He had just won the Libertadores and was MOTM in the final. Not to mention he was called up to for Brasil in 2017. Sessegnon, while voted POTY, is an uncapped player in a second division which is being given way too much weight in this forum. Championship teams cannot qualify for Europe. Rarely do Championship players play for their national team. Ruben Neves does, and he has probably maxed out at 86. I don’t think soccerwiki takes “interest “ into account at all nor should they. Elephant, Sir Rahul, Middle_Finger and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hosein ElTimimi 21 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 Chamberlain or Ward-Prowse + Boufal? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elephant 41 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 45 minutes ago, ProfeQuintero said: When we scout young players who are attracting big clubs, we do it because they will one day play for giants and rise to be the best players in the game. Let’s take a look at different examples. Leon Bailey is attracting Bayern and just about all the big English clubs. Why will he rise? Because of this interest? No. Because he plays in a top division and is a top performer. arthur for gremio rose from 75 to 87 this past December. Is it because he was connected to Barcelona? No. He had just won the Libertadores and was MOTM in the final. Not to mention he was called up to for Brasil in 2017. Sessegnon, while voted POTY, is an uncapped player in a second division which is being given way too much weight in this forum. Championship teams cannot qualify for Europe. Rarely do Championship players play for their national team. Ruben Neves does, and he has probably maxed out at 86. I don’t think soccerwiki takes “interest “ into account at all nor should they. Would have been happy with 84, but hopefully they're waiting for the playoff finals on the 26th. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monolithic 841 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Hosein ElTimimi said: Will Celtic players be reviewed? Scott Sinclair for example had a great season, can he reach 88? Scotland should be reviewed over the summer. As the other teams in that league are considered to be roughly League One standard, I wouldn't expect Sinclair to rise to 88 but stranger things have happened. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vocko 9 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 Any info on agustin rogel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floodstreet2017 265 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 16 hours ago, vitor_mfc said: Tell me a 90 rated player that has his stats and it's not going to rise? There is even some that defend Dembele rise to 91 for half dozen games with goals and assists this season. IMO, ratings is about current ability, performance and prestige, and with prestige i mean achievements or trophies, if he doesn't hold it's rating on the pitch next season, gets back down. And to his defense, he was in crappy united, barely no one performs on that crappy team/club, he got back on his feet when he went to Lyon. Depay has had a good run of form. But he wasn’t even first choice earlier in the season when Aouar took his position. Fekir is still a level above Depay Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kev 935 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 Keep or sell - Ben Brereton, Dion Cools, Rob Holding (will he get another rise in a couple of weeks?) Middle_Finger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jorge Duarte 2 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 I have Pedro 92. Do i trade him for Cuadrado, Sorloth +4m? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrutBrutBrut 201 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 Raul, can I ask, do you update your predictions on the front page as the season progresses? I am just wondering about ODRIOZOLA and A. MARTIN...do you still think they will 88 or is there any chance of 89? Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andre.silvaduarte@hotmail.com 30 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 Hi Guys, What do you think about Leon GORETZKA? Stay or Rise? Keep or Sell? Thank you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Capitan Price 3 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 1 hour ago, BrutBrutBrut said: Raul, can I ask, do you update your predictions on the front page as the season progresses? I am just wondering about ODRIOZOLA and A. MARTIN...do you still think they will 88 or is there any chance of 89? Cheers. I have the same doubt, I believe that Odriozola deserves to be 89 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floodstreet2017 265 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Capitan Price said: I have the same doubt, I believe that Odriozola deserves to be 89 100% he will rise. In Spain squad ahead of Sergi Roberto last time. Should go to World Cup also. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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