EvaGreen 36 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 30 minutes ago, Hail Mary said: I can't believe Lichtsteiner got -1. A move to a bigger club in a tougher league and captain of Switzerland in world cup. Outrageous! If anything he should of got +1. Ageism again from sw. 🙄 bigger? "Club No.4" even not the No.4 for 2 years Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vitor_mfc 3,862 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 25 minutes ago, Hail Mary said: I can't believe Lichtsteiner got -1. A move to a bigger club in a tougher league and captain of Switzerland in world cup. Outrageous! If anything he should of got +1. Ageism again from sw. 🙄 Hmm, i really don't like to be this guy, but how is Arsenal a bigger club than Juventus? Arsenal isn't even playing in Europe next season, Arsenal is in the place that Man United was a few years ago. I like Lichtsteiner, but he has been decreasing in gametime for a few seasons now and giving his age, this was predictable. El Barto 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hail Mary 212 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 13 minutes ago, vitor_mfc said: Hmm, i really don't like to be this guy, but how is Arsenal a bigger club than Juventus? Arsenal isn't even playing in Europe next season, Arsenal is in the place that Man United was a few years ago. I like Lichtsteiner, but he has been decreasing in gametime for a few seasons now and giving his age, this was predictable. I didn't mean it as a disrespectful way to Juve, I still think Juve are a big club as well. I just think when you compare stadiums and income generated Arsenal are the bigger club now. Not playing in Champs lge of course not ideal but is only temporary. With Emery now in charge and some smart recruitment it would not be a surprise to see Arsenal challenge for Premiership next season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thorgan lesar 2,116 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Hail Mary said: I can't believe Lichtsteiner got -1. A move to a bigger club in a tougher league and captain of Switzerland in world cup. Outrageous! If anything he should of got +1. Ageism again from sw. 🙄 Arsenal better then Juventus ? Lol 😛 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vitor_mfc 3,862 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hail Mary said: I didn't mean it as a disrespectful way to Juve, I still think Juve are a big club as well. I just think when you compare stadiums and income generated Arsenal are the bigger club now. Not playing in Champs lge of course not ideal but is only temporary. With Emery now in charge and some smart recruitment it would not be a surprise to see Arsenal challenge for Premiership next season. It's not about disrespect, it's about some supporters (specially PL clubs supporters) thinking that because you club have higher revenue, turnover, stadiums or whatever they are better clubs or have better teams, they are not, the quality of a team and how well a club is doing we see on the pitch, and that reflects the ratings here in SM(for most of the time at least). Juventus has been a present club in the CL latest stages a few years now(besides the Serie A and Coppa wins), where have been Arsenal, Man Utd and Chelsea, colossus of CL in the 90s and 2000s? The mighty have fallen and the player ratings are starting to reflect that now. thorgan lesar 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hail Mary 212 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 26 minutes ago, thorgan lesar said: Arsenal better then Juventus ? Lol 😛 Yea I agree but seems some don't think so. 21 minutes ago, vitor_mfc said: It's not about disrespect, it's about some supporters (specially PL clubs supporters) thinking that because you club have higher revenue, turnover, stadiums or whatever they are better clubs or have better teams, they are not, the quality of a team and how well a club is doing we see on the pitch, and that reflects the ratings here in SM(for most of the time at least). Juventus has been a present club in the CL latest stages a few years now(besides the Serie A and Coppa wins), where have been Arsenal, Man Utd and Chelsea, colossus of CL in the 90s and 2000s? The mighty have fallen and the player ratings are starting to reflect that now. You seem to have an issue with Premiership clubs. A lot of people are envious of the money our league generates but it generates so much money because it's the best with the biggest clubs. Buffon even left because he wanted to join a bigger club. Italian football is mickey mouse and corrupt. SkyWalker and El Barto 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vitor_mfc 3,862 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 21 minutes ago, Hail Mary said: Yea I agree but seems some don't think so. You seem to have an issue with Premiership clubs. A lot of people are envious of the money our league generates but it generates so much money because it's the best with the biggest clubs. Buffon even left because he wanted to join a bigger club. Italian football is mickey mouse and corrupt. Why would i be envious of money that wouldn't even go to me otherwise? If your clubs generate money(or get it from Sheiks), they should spend it in whatever and whenever they seem fit, but don't expect to be seen as better teams just because of that you have money. For some reason England dropped a couple of places in Uefa Clubs Coefficient and lost a CL spot in recent years. Anyway, i made my point, if you disagree, good for you, but at least don't come whining about PL players or soon to be PL players drop in ratings or have lower ratings than better and most successful team at the moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dasylver 17 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 Jose (Real sociedad) +1? Zaza( Valencia) +1? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philodoof 9 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 I also would say, that Juventus is a stronger club compared to Arsenal. Just compare Juventus success in CL with Arsenals. But I don't think it's relevant for the Lichtsteiner -1 decision so I don't think it ought to be the center of discussion. He was playing for Juventus in the recent season half and that's what the rating changes refer to I thought, not what might happen in the future when he plays for another club. I also don't think the age was relevant here. Just look at whoscored. https://www.whoscored.com/Teams/87/Show/Italy-Juventus According to this source Lichtsteiners performances were only the 21st best of the team, and a 6,59 season Rating is pretty weak for a 91 rated player. I would have given him a downrate as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Barles 16 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 I am an Arsenal fan but I don't think Arsenal was (is) on Juventus level. Juventus is top team in Europe, they were able to get into the UCL final twice in last couple of years. Juventus is the biggest team in Italy (the only one better than Arsenal IMO) and well... they can't do anything with that (Napoli and Roma are constantly messing up). And I think that -1 for him is fair enough. He was not as important as he was before, only 21 games and he is 34 years old. Good for a backup RB, maybe to give Bellerin competition. 5 minutes ago, Philodoof said: I also would say, that Juventus is a stronger club compared to Arsenal. Just compare Juventus success in CL with Arsenals. But I don't think it's relevant for the Lichtsteiner -1 decision so I don't think it ought to be the center of discussion. He was playing for Juventus in the recent season half and that's what the rating changes refer to I thought, not what might happen in the future when he plays for another club. I also don't think the age was relevant here. Just look at whoscored. https://www.whoscored.com/Teams/87/Show/Italy-Juventus According to this source Lichtsteiners performances were only the 21st best of the team, and a 6,59 season Rating is pretty weak for a 91 rated player. I would have given him a downrate as well. I would't take whoscored as a good source. According to them, Mustafi was one of the best CB in the league (but he was not - he is 90 right now). They are using an algorithm and sometimes its just not right Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philodoof 9 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 Yeah, okay, I'll be more careful with that.:-) But also on comunio Lichtsteiner had a rather low rating of 5.15 considering he was a 91. So two sources that may have some flaws. But both pointing the thumb towards the same direction. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JAMancini 186 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 Wonderkid Willem Geubbels close to AS Monaco for 20 millions. Sir Rahul 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hesselink 302 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 Idk but i don't love Bernardo Silva. So i can't be objective about him. Does he have potential for 93-4? 92 in this review? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Damien1990 210 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 21 minutes ago, hesselink said: Idk but i don't love Bernardo Silva. So i can't be objective about him. Does he have potential for 93-4? 92 in this review? 4 For me it would be a joke if he got 92 in this review. He hasn't played enough or got the stats that City's starters Sane and Sterling have. City keep being linked with attackers so not sure where Bernardo Silva will get the minutes needed to rise to 93-94 long term. hesselink, BrutBrutBrut and Middle_Finger 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ski13th 49 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 Walker 92 tomorrow or outside chance of 93? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vitor_mfc 3,862 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Ski13th said: Walker 92 tomorrow or outside chance of 93? No chance of 93 whatsoever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TMNT 140 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 Can anyone recommend a worthwhile dirt cheap GK (we're talking under 1m), so I can sell my backup? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hesselink 302 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, TMNT said: Can anyone recommend a worthwhile dirt cheap GK (we're talking under 1m), so I can sell my backup? Jory DOS ANJOS - 300k (America Mineiro) TMNT 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TMNT 140 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, hesselink said: Jory DOS ANJOS - 300k (America Mineiro) cheers, what's his story? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hesselink 302 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, TMNT said: cheers, what's his story? I only know he playing for AM. 810 minutes for now. TMNT 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FDTV 15 Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 9 hours ago, Hail Mary said: I can't believe Lichtsteiner got -1. A move to a bigger club in a tougher league and captain of Switzerland in world cup. Outrageous! If anything he should of got +1. Ageism again from sw. 🙄 Haha, you must be joking Richie Middle_Finger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thorgan lesar 2,116 Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 5 hours ago, JAMancini said: Wonderkid Willem Geubbels close to AS Monaco for 20 millions. Oh man I love AS Monaco. Hope Bongiovanni (deserves it) will get his chances next season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SkyWalker 16 Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 8 hours ago, Hail Mary said: Yea I agree but seems some don't think so. You seem to have an issue with Premiership clubs. A lot of people are envious of the money our league generates but it generates so much money because it's the best with the biggest clubs. Buffon even left because he wanted to join a bigger club. Italian football is mickey mouse and corrupt. omg Buffon left because he wanted to join a bigger club? Arsenal bigger than Juventus because of bigger stadium and income. i hope you are troll Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EvaGreen 36 Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 hi mates, is SM available for you all now? I can't log in for hours. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ersavitzs 121 Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, EvaGreen said: hi mates, is SM available for you all now? I can't log in for hours. Yep. I can log in with no problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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