TMNT 140 Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 Just now, Floodstreet2017 said: Azpi is pretty much Spain’s 3rd or 4th choice right back. Carvajal Nacho Odriozola Azpi/Sergi Roberto SM don’t appreciate Nacho though. Should be 91 at least Maybe SM factor that into their decisions... but Nainggolan didn't even make Belgium's squad, Icardi the same with Argentina, I could go on... So I don't think they should. Ok reward players doing well for their national teams but don't penalize them for not playing as they can't change their situation. & find another top country lol Also... Azpilicueta mostly plays CB for Chelsea these days in a 3, Spain play with 2 CBs. Obviously before that he mostly played LB... so no surprise he fell down the RB pecking order. But he still makes the squad because he's excellent in a number of positions. So is Sergi Roberto who didn't even make the squad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EvaGreen 36 Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Floodstreet2017 said: Agreed. No way Kyle Walker should be same rating. Apart from Man City there hasn’t been a great team in England for a few years. Some teams have managed it on a one off basis. Carvajal maybe should have had it before but for me not better than Kimmich. Also not sure why Alaba is 93 and rated above these players. The ratings are a mess. No consistency or logic behind a lot when you compare abilities of the players. Walker is English and play in EPL and finished No.3 and get 6 points in 2 matches in WC Group G. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JAMancini 188 Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 Son from Tottenham could leave football 2 years because of Korean military service. Korean Goverment would rid the military service if Korea qualifies for 1/8 in WorldCup or win Asiatic Games this summer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
th3stain 125 Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 Imagine giving Soler 89 and not 90 to Fornals. Players' team finishing in CL > Player actually performing individually. Sir Rahul and Floodstreet2017 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grembo 2 Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 Who has the bigger potential out of Dominic Calvert-Lewin or Oleksandr Zinchenko or Ainsley Maithland-Niles? Need to sell one of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davidm92 68 Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 "But he can't be a 90-something, he isn't better than this other player." Guys please keep in mind that player rating has different factors, including talent, games played, individual awards, team positions(League and Cups) and team prestige. It's not just talent, so when you make a comment like the above, it doesn't convince anyone. Think it through more and it'll make your argument a lot more convincing. th3stain and Stace 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ombarcagunners 739 Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 4 hours ago, Sir Rahul said: nice So I guess I have to sell 2-3 players... I don't know who I should sell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
th3stain 125 Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 37 minutes ago, davidm92 said: "But he can't be a 90-something, he isn't better than this other player." Guys please keep in mind that player rating has different factors, including talent, games played, individual awards, team positions(League and Cups) and team prestige. It's not just talent, so when you make a comment like the above, it doesn't convince anyone. Think it through more and it'll make your argument a lot more convincing. Fornals had 4 goals 13 assists playing 800 more mins than Soler. 12 assists in the league which was as many as Messi playing for an inferior team. Soler had 1 goal and 5 assists but since he plays for a team that finished 4th rather than 5th (Villarreal) he deserves the same rating as Fornals? Ok, buddy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JAMancini 188 Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 46 minutes ago, th3stain said: Fornals had 4 goals 13 assists playing 800 more mins than Soler. 12 assists in the league which was as many as Messi playing for an inferior team. Soler had 1 goal and 5 assists but since he plays for a team that finished 4th rather than 5th (Villarreal) he deserves the same rating as Fornals? Ok, buddy. The real level for Soler is 88 and for Fornals is 89, imo. TMCosta 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davidm92 68 Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, th3stain said: Fornals had 4 goals 13 assists playing 800 more mins than Soler. 12 assists in the league which was as many as Messi playing for an inferior team. Soler had 1 goal and 5 assists but since he plays for a team that finished 4th rather than 5th (Villarreal) he deserves the same rating as Fornals? Ok, buddy. I didn't even see you're original post, just saw a few posts in that format so don't be so sensitive. Ok buddy? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stace 54 Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 Being as a discussion over whether player x deserves +1 can take over three pages on this thread and lead to no agreement, how do people expect SM to get it right all the time? Last time I checked this site costs nothing, or a token amount if gold manager, how much time and manpower do people expect SM to put into ratings review. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davidm92 68 Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 People(me included) are always going to think they know better than SM tbh Sir Rahul and thorgan lesar 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floodstreet2017 265 Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 2 hours ago, davidm92 said: "But he can't be a 90-something, he isn't better than this other player." Guys please keep in mind that player rating has different factors, including talent, games played, individual awards, team positions(League and Cups) and team prestige. It's not just talent, so when you make a comment like the above, it doesn't convince anyone. Think it through more and it'll make your argument a lot more convincing. So on what basis should you make for a players rating? surely that’s the whole point of the rating system. There has to be consistency. If a player is better than another I expect them to be rated higher end off. Fair enough if these players have only emerged etc or a bit younger then there are exceptions. Defeats the purpose of the rating system if you can’t compare players and to be honest these comparisons only go to show how ridiculous and lack of justification behind a lot of the changes! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davidm92 68 Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 Just now, Floodstreet2017 said: So on what basis should you make for a players rating? surely that’s the whole point of the rating system. There has to be consistency. If a player is better than another I expect them to be rated higher end off. Fair enough if these players have only emerged etc or a bit younger then there are exceptions. Defeats the purpose of the rating system if you can’t compare players and to be honest these comparisons only go to show how ridiculous and lack of justification behind a lot of the changes! I'm not saying to not compare players. I'm saying it'll make for better discussions to compare them with more than just "I like this guy more." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floodstreet2017 265 Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, Stace said: Being as a discussion over whether player x deserves +1 can take over three pages on this thread and lead to no agreement, how do people expect SM to get it right all the time? Last time I checked this site costs nothing, or a token amount if gold manager, how much time and manpower do people expect SM to put into ratings review. No one said we have to agree. This is a place where people come to voice there opinion whether right or wrong. so yes last time I checked we are allowed this freedom of speech. Everyone like to compare opinions about football and ratings as we do in our day to day lives and on social media. no one is expecting SM to get it 100% but either way it still a good discussion. Wouldn’t be any point in this thread if not would there!! th3stain 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hesselink 310 Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 Cancelo or Semedo? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Damien1990 218 Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 I'd probably go for Cancelo if Roberto is going to be seen as the main right back for Barca next season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stace 54 Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Floodstreet2017 said: No one said we have to agree. This is a place where people come to voice there opinion whether right or wrong. so yes last time I checked we are allowed this freedom of speech. Everyone like to compare opinions about football and ratings as we do in our day to day lives and on social media. no one is expecting SM to get it 100% but either way it still a good discussion. Wouldn’t be any point in this thread if not would there!! For sure mate, all good points. It's the name calling, and the anger of some people that gets a bit silly. It's a free online game, calm down y'all! IanG and Floodstreet2017 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yuasa 211 Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 7 hours ago, Grembo said: Who has the bigger potential out of Dominic Calvert-Lewin or Oleksandr Zinchenko or Ainsley Maithland-Niles? Need to sell one of them. Sell maithland-niles Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Rahul 7,755 Posted June 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 12 hours ago, andre.silvaduarte@hotmail.com said: Gareth Bale !!! How can he go down 1 point after making the end of the season? He practically decided a Champions League final in favor of Real Madrid. I do not understand these SM updates. Very bad! it's fine 12 hours ago, Floodstreet2017 said: People complaining about Carvajal not rising have not seen him play this season. 92 is fine and he’s definitely not a level above Kimmich it's okay 11 hours ago, JAMancini said: Cancelo will sign for Juventus. Could he be a potential level 91-92? He can play in all right side (defense and attack). eventually yeah 11 hours ago, Andrius K said: Jorge, Jorginho and Falcao rises no where to be found. Why? indeed, why? 9 hours ago, JAMancini said: Son from Tottenham could leave football 2 years because of Korean military service. Korean Goverment would rid the military service if Korea qualifies for 1/8 in WorldCup or win Asiatic Games this summer. I wrote an article on this 7 hours ago, davidm92 said: "But he can't be a 90-something, he isn't better than this other player." Guys please keep in mind that player rating has different factors, including talent, games played, individual awards, team positions(League and Cups) and team prestige. It's not just talent, so when you make a comment like the above, it doesn't convince anyone. Think it through more and it'll make your argument a lot more convincing. yep 8 hours ago, Grembo said: Who has the bigger potential out of Dominic Calvert-Lewin or Oleksandr Zinchenko or Ainsley Maithland-Niles? Need to sell one of them. not sure 5 hours ago, Stace said: Being as a discussion over whether player x deserves +1 can take over three pages on this thread and lead to no agreement, how do people expect SM to get it right all the time? Last time I checked this site costs nothing, or a token amount if gold manager, how much time and manpower do people expect SM to put into ratings review. yep SM is like VAR 4 hours ago, hesselink said: Cancelo or Semedo? Cancelo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andre.silvaduarte@hotmail.com 30 Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 12 hours ago, TMNT said: Not so sure about that, Azpilicueta has been 1 of the best defenders in the PL for a while now & is still stuck on 92. I agree with you about this player. You're right in your comment. Very true. TMNT 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ombarcagunners 739 Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Pavard or Dalot + Ryan Sessegnon? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hfazil 247 Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Wow they dropped Suarez Stace 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skycl 0 Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 They must hate wingbacks Sergi and Alba no UP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yuasa 211 Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 18 minutes ago, Skycl said: They must hate wingbacks Sergi and Alba no UP Alba doesnt't rise another time🤔 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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