EvaGreen 35 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 2 hours ago, tupac_healy said: Lukaku was a poor miss, Dybala I could understand 50-50... But Oblak.... come on guys, how many years in a row has he won the Zamora? No way he's 2 points below DDG.... right, everyone knows that Oblak is more steady than de Gea. If DDG 95, Oblak worth a 96. 3 1 1 TMCosta, Floodstreet2017, andre.silvaduarte@hotmail.com and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JAMancini 160 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 Cancelo will sign for Juventus. Could he be a potential level 91-92? He can play in all right side (defense and attack). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Floodstreet2017 265 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 16 minutes ago, andre.silvaduarte@hotmail.com said: What? Carvajal is one of the best right defenders! He had a complicated injury, which made him lose many games, but who are the great players who have no injuries throughout his career? He has so many trophies, but 3 Champions League in a row, I think it's a great business card for this player, not any player who has this track record at the service of a big club like Real Madrid. I have no doubt that Carvajal deserves the 93. He is a great defender. Hasn’t done enough this season to justify 93 though. Mixed bag in term of form and few injuries. 2 Elephant and TMNT reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EvaGreen 35 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 that SM can't accept a turth: la liga is stronger than EPL in competition. 3 1 Sir Rahul, Jamichael_90, Floodstreet2017 and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marek 9,169 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 20 minutes ago, JAMancini said: Cancelo will sign for Juventus. Could he be a potential level 91-92? He can play in all right side (defense and attack). Yes, definitely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andre.silvaduarte@hotmail.com 30 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 18 minutes ago, Floodstreet2017 said: He is a great defender. Hasn’t done enough this season to justify 93 though. Mixed bag in term of form and few injuries. Carvajal deserves the 93 a long time ago! But review after review, for one reason or another, still do not rise to 93! In the Summer Review of 2017 could already have gone up to 93! In the review of December2017 / January2018 he came from injury, SM did not want to climb. A season that says less good but in which he won the third Champions League followed, how come he does not rise? In the NT of Spain, being physically fit is on the eleventh base! If he played in England he would have had the 93 a long time ago! 3 1 TMCosta, Soccahappy, carl89 and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrius K 0 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 Jorge, Jorginho and Falcao rises no where to be found. Why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Floodstreet2017 265 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 1 minute ago, andre.silvaduarte@hotmail.com said: Carvajal deserves the 93 a long time ago! But review after review, for one reason or another, still do not rise to 93! In the Summer Review of 2017 could already have gone up to 93! In the review of December2017 / January2018 he came from injury, SM did not want to climb. A season that says less good but in which he won the third Champions League followed, how come he does not rise? In the NT of Spain, being physically fit is on the eleventh base! If he played in England he would have had the 93 a long time ago! Agreed. No way Kyle Walker should be same rating. Apart from Man City there hasn’t been a great team in England for a few years. Some teams have managed it on a one off basis. Carvajal maybe should have had it before but for me not better than Kimmich. Also not sure why Alaba is 93 and rated above these players. The ratings are a mess. No consistency or logic behind a lot when you compare abilities of the players. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TMNT 63 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 16 minutes ago, andre.silvaduarte@hotmail.com said: If he played in England he would have had the 93 a long time ago! Not so sure about that, Azpilicueta has been 1 of the best defenders in the PL for a while now & is still stuck on 92. 2 geetay87 and Sir Rahul reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Floodstreet2017 265 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 16 minutes ago, TMNT said: Not so sure about that, Azpilicueta has been 1 of the best defenders in the PL for a while now & is still stuck on 92. Azpi is pretty much Spain’s 3rd or 4th choice right back. Carvajal Nacho Odriozola Azpi/Sergi Roberto SM don’t appreciate Nacho though. Should be 91 at least Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TMNT 63 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 Just now, Floodstreet2017 said: Azpi is pretty much Spain’s 3rd or 4th choice right back. Carvajal Nacho Odriozola Azpi/Sergi Roberto SM don’t appreciate Nacho though. Should be 91 at least Maybe SM factor that into their decisions... but Nainggolan didn't even make Belgium's squad, Icardi the same with Argentina, I could go on... So I don't think they should. Ok reward players doing well for their national teams but don't penalize them for not playing as they can't change their situation. & find another top country lol Also... Azpilicueta mostly plays CB for Chelsea these days in a 3, Spain play with 2 CBs. Obviously before that he mostly played LB... so no surprise he fell down the RB pecking order. But he still makes the squad because he's excellent in a number of positions. So is Sergi Roberto who didn't even make the squad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EvaGreen 35 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Floodstreet2017 said: Agreed. No way Kyle Walker should be same rating. Apart from Man City there hasn’t been a great team in England for a few years. Some teams have managed it on a one off basis. Carvajal maybe should have had it before but for me not better than Kimmich. Also not sure why Alaba is 93 and rated above these players. The ratings are a mess. No consistency or logic behind a lot when you compare abilities of the players. Walker is English and play in EPL and finished No.3 and get 6 points in 2 matches in WC Group G. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JAMancini 160 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 Son from Tottenham could leave football 2 years because of Korean military service. Korean Goverment would rid the military service if Korea qualifies for 1/8 in WorldCup or win Asiatic Games this summer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
th3stain 125 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 Imagine giving Soler 89 and not 90 to Fornals. Players' team finishing in CL > Player actually performing individually. 2 Sir Rahul and Floodstreet2017 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grembo 1 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 Who has the bigger potential out of Dominic Calvert-Lewin or Oleksandr Zinchenko or Ainsley Maithland-Niles? Need to sell one of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davidm92 68 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 "But he can't be a 90-something, he isn't better than this other player." Guys please keep in mind that player rating has different factors, including talent, games played, individual awards, team positions(League and Cups) and team prestige. It's not just talent, so when you make a comment like the above, it doesn't convince anyone. Think it through more and it'll make your argument a lot more convincing. 1 1 th3stain and Stace reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ombarcagunners 419 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 4 hours ago, Sir Rahul said: nice So I guess I have to sell 2-3 players... I don't know who I should sell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
th3stain 125 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 37 minutes ago, davidm92 said: "But he can't be a 90-something, he isn't better than this other player." Guys please keep in mind that player rating has different factors, including talent, games played, individual awards, team positions(League and Cups) and team prestige. It's not just talent, so when you make a comment like the above, it doesn't convince anyone. Think it through more and it'll make your argument a lot more convincing. Fornals had 4 goals 13 assists playing 800 more mins than Soler. 12 assists in the league which was as many as Messi playing for an inferior team. Soler had 1 goal and 5 assists but since he plays for a team that finished 4th rather than 5th (Villarreal) he deserves the same rating as Fornals? Ok, buddy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JAMancini 160 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 46 minutes ago, th3stain said: Fornals had 4 goals 13 assists playing 800 more mins than Soler. 12 assists in the league which was as many as Messi playing for an inferior team. Soler had 1 goal and 5 assists but since he plays for a team that finished 4th rather than 5th (Villarreal) he deserves the same rating as Fornals? Ok, buddy. The real level for Soler is 88 and for Fornals is 89, imo. 1 TMCosta reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davidm92 68 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, th3stain said: Fornals had 4 goals 13 assists playing 800 more mins than Soler. 12 assists in the league which was as many as Messi playing for an inferior team. Soler had 1 goal and 5 assists but since he plays for a team that finished 4th rather than 5th (Villarreal) he deserves the same rating as Fornals? Ok, buddy. I didn't even see you're original post, just saw a few posts in that format so don't be so sensitive. Ok buddy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stace 44 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 Being as a discussion over whether player x deserves +1 can take over three pages on this thread and lead to no agreement, how do people expect SM to get it right all the time? Last time I checked this site costs nothing, or a token amount if gold manager, how much time and manpower do people expect SM to put into ratings review. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davidm92 68 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 People(me included) are always going to think they know better than SM tbh 2 thorgan lesar and Sir Rahul reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Floodstreet2017 265 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 2 hours ago, davidm92 said: "But he can't be a 90-something, he isn't better than this other player." Guys please keep in mind that player rating has different factors, including talent, games played, individual awards, team positions(League and Cups) and team prestige. It's not just talent, so when you make a comment like the above, it doesn't convince anyone. Think it through more and it'll make your argument a lot more convincing. So on what basis should you make for a players rating? surely that’s the whole point of the rating system. There has to be consistency. If a player is better than another I expect them to be rated higher end off. Fair enough if these players have only emerged etc or a bit younger then there are exceptions. Defeats the purpose of the rating system if you can’t compare players and to be honest these comparisons only go to show how ridiculous and lack of justification behind a lot of the changes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davidm92 68 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 Just now, Floodstreet2017 said: So on what basis should you make for a players rating? surely that’s the whole point of the rating system. There has to be consistency. If a player is better than another I expect them to be rated higher end off. Fair enough if these players have only emerged etc or a bit younger then there are exceptions. Defeats the purpose of the rating system if you can’t compare players and to be honest these comparisons only go to show how ridiculous and lack of justification behind a lot of the changes! I'm not saying to not compare players. I'm saying it'll make for better discussions to compare them with more than just "I like this guy more." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Floodstreet2017 265 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, Stace said: Being as a discussion over whether player x deserves +1 can take over three pages on this thread and lead to no agreement, how do people expect SM to get it right all the time? Last time I checked this site costs nothing, or a token amount if gold manager, how much time and manpower do people expect SM to put into ratings review. No one said we have to agree. This is a place where people come to voice there opinion whether right or wrong. so yes last time I checked we are allowed this freedom of speech. Everyone like to compare opinions about football and ratings as we do in our day to day lives and on social media. no one is expecting SM to get it 100% but either way it still a good discussion. Wouldn’t be any point in this thread if not would there!! 1 th3stain reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
