Rahul W's rating predictions

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On 6/27/2018 at 1:09 PM, vitor_mfc said:

None of those names would convince me to give up Thauvin.

Agreed

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On 6/27/2018 at 2:36 PM, AK_Indian said:

Need a left back for first team. Budget up to 18 million. 

Thinking one of Gurreiro or Grimaldo. Any other/better shouts?

Guerreiro easy

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10 minutes ago, TMCosta said:

Guerreiro easy

Really? The guy can't defend and has either been injured or struggling for form for Dortmund all season. I would choose Grimaldo 100% out of the two options offered.

Mendy, Gaya, Davies, Telles, Robertson and Max would all be better options for the price.

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6 minutes ago, nofoff said:

Really? The guy can't defend and has either been injured or struggling for form for Dortmund all season. I would choose Grimaldo 100% out of the two options offered.

1 irregular season...so? Is clearly out of shape but is picking up the pace...even SM kept his 90 in Dortmund lol (non negotiable they said this week)...the quality is there no doubt...u will see next season...24 YO...D,MD(E),M,MO(EC)...

Grimaldo? Did u saw him in Champions? Not that good of a season... i dont know if he already signed with Napoli (and if he will i dont see him taking Mario Rui spot)...and his head is already there but he got issues defending...88...

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3 minutes ago, TMCosta said:

1 irregular season...so? Is clearly out of shape but is picking up the pace...even SM kept his 90 in Dortmund lol (non negotiable they said this week)...the quality is there no doubt...u will see next season...24 YO...D,MD(E),M,MO(EC)...

Grimaldo? Did u saw him in Champions? Not that good of a season... i dont know if he already signed with Napoli (and if he will i dont see him taking Mario Rui spot)...and his head is already there but he got issues defending...88...

All good points but for me he's always been far from impressive defensively. He offers more than most full backs going forward and also crosses the ball more consistently than most modern day full-backs but he is often caught out of position and is too eager to slide in for a challenge whether the ball is there to be won or not. I feel like his performances so far in the world cup have further shown this. 

I do see where you're coming from though and I usually find myself agreeing with most of the stuff you post here. Not this time though mate sorry 

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Quick question.  Say Player A (20, 80) and Player B(23, 80) both get the same rating increase.  So now, they are Player A(20, 83) and Player B(23, 83).  Does Player A's value go up a lot higher than Player B or is it about the same?

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4 hours ago, Sir Rahul said:

any other advice?

Is that a 4 for 1 trade? 

And Mawson for me.

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49 minutes ago, davidm92 said:

Quick question.  Say Player A (20, 80) and Player B(23, 80) both get the same rating increase.  So now, they are Player A(20, 83) and Player B(23, 83).  Does Player A's value go up a lot higher than Player B or is it about the same?

Player B will go up to 2m. Due to SM valuation of youth players, Player A will go up to at least 2.4m, dependent on hype,  which club owns them in real life etc this could be a lot more, seen them at 5m before, though not often.

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Just now, Stace said:

 Player B will go up to 2m. Due to SM valuation of youth players, Player A will go up to at least 2.4m, dependent on hype,  which club owns them in real life etc this could be a lot more, seen them at 5m before, though not often.

So if i'm buying one of them just to sell them off after the increase, there isn't much of a difference in the profit?

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12 minutes ago, davidm92 said:

So if i'm buying one of them just to sell them off after the increase, there isn't much of a difference in the profit?

Depends on the player and their potential as well. Not every player has the same value who is off the same rating and age.

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2 hours ago, nofoff said:

All good points but for me he's always been far from impressive defensively. He offers more than most full backs going forward and also crosses the ball more consistently than most modern day full-backs but he is often caught out of position and is too eager to slide in for a challenge whether the ball is there to be won or not. I feel like his performances so far in the world cup have further shown this. 

I do see where you're coming from though and I usually find myself agreeing with most of the stuff you post here. Not this time though mate sorry 

Hehehe TY always a pleasure

But i will continue lol cause i know both very well (as u know im portuguese) Grimaldo is much more injury prone (Raphael has more games in Dortmund that Grimaldo in his entire career) and i dont understand his hype (Barça sold him for 2 M?? doesnt tell u nothing?)

Best LB in Portuguese League (also best player):

1 Alex TellesFC Porto, 25, D(L),M(L)

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0.9

83.3

1.7

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7.98

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Alejandro GrimaldoBenfica, 22, D(L)

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0.8

81.9

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7.25

So a 90 European Champion, Bor. Dortmund player, that can play in a 10, 8, 6, 7, 11 and LB spot, with 24 yo...

Or a hyped 88 non internacional LB

 

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35 minutes ago, TMCosta said:

Hehehe TY always a pleasure

But i will continue lol cause i know both very well (as u know im portuguese) Grimaldo is much more injury prone (Raphael has more games in Dortmund that Grimaldo in his entire career) and i dont understand his hype (Barça sold him for 2 M?? doesnt tell u nothing?)

So a 90 European Champion, Bor. Dortmund player, that can play in a 10, 8, 6, 7, 11 and LB spot, with 24 yo...

Or a hyped 88 non internacional LB

Let's face it, Guerreiro is only an international because of the lack of strength at LB. You obviously aware of that if you're Portugese. Who is he really competing with? Coentrao?

Grimaldo is competing against Alba, Alonso, Gaya, Bernat and Monreal as well as Roberto and Azpilicueta also being able to play in the same position. He's been on the radar of United, Liverpool and is apparently close to a move to Napoli (after playing over 30 games this season)

Also talking about injuries/game time, Guerreiro really hasn't played any more than Grimaldo over the course of his carreer (202 vs 190 games and he's 2 years younger) so I think him being more injury prone is a bit of a myth as they've both had their fair share.

Think you're off on this one mate but I guess only time will tell haha

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[vitor_mfc 3,862]

1 hour ago, TMCosta said:

Barça sold him for 2 M?? doesnt tell u nothing?

To be fair, Barça isn't exactly known for their big eye for talent, they let Pique 5M, Fabregas 3M, Bellerin 500m go and even Thiago for 25M was a bargain. And those are just the ones that i remember. Doesn't that tell you anything too?

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5 minutes ago, vitor_mfc said:

To be fair, Barça isn't exactly known for their big eye for talent, they let Pique 5M, Fabregas 3M, Bellerin 500m go and even Thiago for 25M was a bargain. And those are just the ones that i remember. Doesn't that tell you anything too?

Bellerin for 500m is a good sell lol

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1 hour ago, nofoff said:

Let's face it, Guerreiro is only an international because of the lack of strength at LB. You obviously aware of that if you're Portugese. Who is he really competing with? Coentrao?

Grimaldo is competing against Alba, Alonso, Gaya, Bernat and Monreal as well as Roberto and Azpilicueta also being able to play in the same position. He's been on the radar of United, Liverpool and is apparently close to a move to Napoli (after playing over 30 games this season)

Also talking about injuries/game time, Guerreiro really hasn't played any more than Grimaldo over the course of his carreer (202 vs 190 games and he's 2 years younger) so I think him being more injury prone is a bit of a myth as they've both had their fair share.

Think you're off on this one mate but I guess only time will tell haha

Guerreiro is international because he deserved to be, he was in very good form 3/2 years ago, he was really good in the Euro 2016 and even was in the Team of the Tournament. It's funny how people forget, or worse, they don't even know what they are talking about. 

Sure Guerreiro doesn't have much competition, but that is also to his merit. Grimaldo could've been first choice or at least second if only he was good enough, but he just isn't, for now at least. Odriozola for example, is there, and doesn't play for a big club either.

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12 minutes ago, Liverp00l said:

Bellerin for 500m is a good sell lol

lol 0.5M… better?

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Just now, vitor_mfc said:

lol 0.5M… better?

Well now thats a good buy for arsenal lol

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1 minute ago, Liverp00l said:

Well now thats a good buy for arsenal lol

And it was.

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2 minutes ago, vitor_mfc said:

Guerreiro is international because he deserved to be, he was in very good form 3/2 years ago, he was really good in the Euro 2016 and even was in the Team of the Tournament. It's funny how people forget, or worse, they don't even know what they are talking about. 

Sure Guerreiro doesn't have much competition, but that is also to his merit. Grimaldo could've been first choice if only he was good enough, but he just isn't, for now at least.

Yes he deserves to be but you can't really argue the fact that there isn't much competition in his position. He would be nowhere the Spain team as they are much stronger at LB like I previously said.

I watched the euros in 2016 (even though I don't know what I'm talking about) and I've had a bt sports subscription for the last few years in order to watch Bundesliga. I have to be honest, there's a possibility that I might have missed a game or two over the last 900 or so days so maybe I missed the moments where he's been putting on defensive masterclasses. I can only bow down to your superior knowledge if you've not missed a minute of game time

Credit where credit is due, he had a good Euros back in 2016, hence the Dortmund transfer, however there is a reason one player is being linked with United, Liverpool and Napoli and the other isn't. 

P.s maybe let's take it easy with the personal comments from now on, you're kind of forcing me to give as good as I get  

 

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18 minutes ago, nofoff said:

Yes he deserves to be but you can't really argue the fact that there isn't much competition in his position. He would be nowhere the Spain team as they are much stronger at LB like I previously said.

I watched the euros in 2016 (even though I don't know what I'm talking about) and I've had a bt sports subscription for the last few years in order to watch Bundesliga. I have to be honest, there's a possibility that I might have missed a game or two over the last 900 or so days so maybe I missed the moments where he's been putting on defensive masterclasses. I can only bow down to your superior knowledge if you've not missed a minute of game time

Credit where credit is due, he had a good Euros back in 2016, hence the Dortmund transfer, however there is a reason one player is being linked with United, Liverpool and Napoli and the other isn't. 

P.s maybe let's take it easy with the personal comments from now on, you're kind of forcing me to give as good as I get  

 

No personal comment, just a general observation. You can give as much as you want, but a player being "linked" to somewhere doesn't really say anything for me, players are linked with clubs all the time.  But if you're into players are linked to X, Y or Z, Guerreiro is being linked to Real Madrid, Psg and even Arsenal...

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4 minutes ago, vitor_mfc said:

No personal comment, just a general observation. You can give as much as you want, but a player being "linked" to somewhere doesn't really say anything for me, players are linked with clubs all the time.  But if you're into players are linked to X, Y or Z, Guerreiro is being linked to Real Madrid, Psg and even Arsenal...

Let's just see where they're both at a year from now. Looking purely at the attributes you'd look for in a defender I feel that Grimaldo offers substantially more defensively than Guerreiro (positional awareness/good on the turn/stays on his feet more often than not) whilst still offering a threat going forward. Guerreiro is too quick to go to ground, excels when he is on the front foot but can struggle when up against a forward who offers more than just pure pace.. Both are good players, don't get me wrong but I wouldn't hesitate in saying that I think Grimaldo will be the better player in the long term.

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Guerrero been slammed for his performances in Dortmund and all season. Even at World Cup. Seems to have a poor attitude also. 

Interesting to see how he does next season as won’t hang onto his 90 if he performs the same again!

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