Floodstreet2017 265 Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 2 hours ago, AlfonDaddy said: He hardly gets an opportunity for France. Normally he sits on the bench. Compare his stats to other higher rated players in his position. Granted they play in tougher leagues but they also play for top teams in those leagues..... Think he has about one goal in all this time against a team in the top 4 in France. No joke. 1 hour ago, Yuasa said: I'm reading he takes 6.5 valutazion last night And what?? 😂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floodstreet2017 265 Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 1 hour ago, TMCosta said: From whoscored? Forget it...try floodstreet.com hahahaha Maybe we should all just base our opinions on what who scored says 🤣🤣 TMCosta 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soccahappy 8,826 Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 15 hours ago, shangar said: A quick question regarding Golovin's +1 to 89. Do you guys think this was purely based on his World Cup performances, or was there something in his club form? Definitely not Monaco as its already been said, deservedly WC Performances. 15 hours ago, tupac_healy said: As good a time as any to bring back up that Joe Gomes vs Kimpembe debate.... Like I said, Kimpembe.... easy Joe Gomez for me by a mile at the moment. 14 hours ago, Lukke said: MD,M,MA(C) T.NDOMBÉLÉ Olympique Lyonnais 10.0M 88 21 MD,M,MA(C) F.GRILLITSCH Hoffenheim 8.0M 88 23 which safer to rise? Ndombele again by a mile now, later & probably forever 3 hours ago, 1000dB said: Balotelli is on 90 (+1 last summer). Usually the next day they continue with the last team that was reviewed the day before. In this case that was ASSE. OM seems to be completed and Thauvin won't get more than 91 playing for OM. I agree with 1000db We'll know tomorrow for sure, but my pennyworth ... No Rise for Thauvin. Saint-Maximin possibly tomorrow. Unlikely tho it seems I'm hoping... Lukke 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Rahul 7,356 Posted November 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Cam Lucas said: I doubt Matic will go -2. I can see Matic getting a -1 maybe as united are poor, Alexis on the other hand is surely in line for a -2. As a Gooner - this pleases me. hah Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Rahul 7,356 Posted November 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 Saint-Maximin had a position change today so won't rise Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Rahul 7,356 Posted November 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 Calhanoglu and Mario Gaspar or Thauvin? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Damien1990 218 Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 Looking like Boateng is pretty certain to drop. My current CB options are: Ramos (32/95), Boateng (30/94), Stones (24/90), Christensen (22/90), Elvedi (22/88), Zouma (24/88), M. Sarr (19/87), Retsos (20/87), Lyanco (21/82), Mavropanos (20/82). Retsos, Lyanco and Mavropanos have been injured fairly often and don't seem to be in their teams' plans at the moment. Zouma is Zouma and Christensen is frozen out at Chelsea so I need a decent replacement - preferably one capable of hitting 94 in the future. My team currently is: De Gea (28/95) Kimmich (23/92) Ramos (32/95) Boateng (30/94) Alaba (26/93) Eriksen (26/93) Pogba (25/93) Mbappe (19/92) Kroos (28/95) Isco (26/93) Griezmann (27/95) I've got Sterling and Dele Alli too so am comfortable throwing Isco in the mix with Boateng to get a CB of a decent age with a good future. My game world is pretty competitive so it'll be tough getting a replacement - any 2 or 3 name recommendations? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yuasa 211 Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Floodstreet2017 said: Think he has about one goal in all this time against a team in the top 4 in France. No joke. And what?? 😂 Someone said yesterday he was terrible Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floodstreet2017 265 Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 25 minutes ago, Yuasa said: Someone said yesterday he was terrible Two goals over last season and this season against a top team in France. 1 versus PSG last season 1 against Lyon this season. Regularly disappears against the big teams then pops up against Amiens, Caen etc not sure why he should get a 92? Very generous from SM if he does. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nofoff 195 Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 9 minutes ago, Yuasa said: Someone said yesterday he was terrible I don't think anyone said Thauvin was terrible... I said Kimpembe was awful (because I actually watched the PSG-Liverpool game and he had one of his worst games) I'm with @Floodstreet2017 on this. Just because Whoscored gave a player a 6+ rating really has very little bearing on how well they actually played. Their formula is completely stat based and doesn't take into account a number of key things. To use yesterdays game as an example Kimpembe might have played 20 successful passes (hypothetically speaking) back to his GK meaning Whoscored thinks his passing was great. (Mustafi last season is another example of how deceiving WS can be, especially for defenders) However it completely ignores the fact that Thiago Silva came to his rescue at least 6 times and he that was caught out of position on multiple occasions. He also decided to dribble the ball in his own penalty area more than once when he could have just cleared the danger immediately. Whoscored CAN be a great tool but I feel like way too many people put too much weight on their ratings without watching the players themselves. NB: Not calling anyone out, just wanted to put my OPINION out there thorgan lesar 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floodstreet2017 265 Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, nofoff said: I don't think anyone said Thauvin was terrible... I said Kimpembe was awful (because I actually watched the PSG-Liverpool game and he had one of his worst games) I'm with @Floodstreet2017 on this. Just because Whoscored gave a player a 6+ rating really has very little bearing on how well they actually played. Their formula is completely stat based and doesn't take into account a number of key things. To use yesterdays game as an example Kimpembe might have played 20 successful passes (hypothetically speaking) back to his GK meaning Whoscored thinks his passing was great. (Mustafi last season is another example of how deceiving WS can be, especially for defenders) However it completely ignores the fact that Thiago Silva came to his rescue at least 6 times and he that was caught out of position on multiple occasions. He also decided to dribble the ball in his own penalty area more than once when he could have just cleared the danger immediately. Whoscored CAN be a great tool but I feel like way too many people put too much weight on their ratings without watching the players themselves. NB: Not calling anyone out, just wanted to put my OPINION out there He gave the ball away at least three times where Liverpool could have capitalised. Having now checked Who scored he actually got one of the lowest ratings for PSG so not sure if that’s something to brag about? nofoff 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cvilhete 642 Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 12 minutes ago, nofoff said: I don't think anyone said Thauvin was terrible... I said Kimpembe was awful (because I actually watched the PSG-Liverpool game and he had one of his worst games) I'm with @Floodstreet2017 on this. Just because Whoscored gave a player a 6+ rating really has very little bearing on how well they actually played. Their formula is completely stat based and doesn't take into account a number of key things. To use yesterdays game as an example Kimpembe might have played 20 successful passes (hypothetically speaking) back to his GK meaning Whoscored thinks his passing was great. (Mustafi last season is another example of how deceiving WS can be, especially for defenders) However it completely ignores the fact that Thiago Silva came to his rescue at least 6 times and he that was caught out of position on multiple occasions. He also decided to dribble the ball in his own penalty area more than once when he could have just cleared the danger immediately. Whoscored CAN be a great tool but I feel like way too many people put too much weight on their ratings without watching the players themselves. NB: Not calling anyone out, just wanted to put my OPINION out there Watching the football is always more credible than looking up stats, I understand with a game like SM stats are a major thing but a lot these guys giving opinions on players they haven't even watched play. In other words blind leading the blind Sir Rahul and nofoff 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nofoff 195 Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 8 minutes ago, Cvilhete said: Watching the football is always more credible than looking up stats, I understand with a game like SM stats are a major thing but a lot these guys giving opinions on players they haven't even watched play. In other words blind leading the blind Couldn't agree more mate. That's why I don't answer half the questions on here. They are either too obvious to answer, have already been asked 1000 times, or I don't know a player well enough to comment. No point giving an opinion if you've just checked on transfermarkt/whoscored Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yuasa 211 Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 Mateta +2 or maybe more? Soccahappy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Rahul 7,356 Posted November 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Sir Rahul said: Calhanoglu and Mario Gaspar or Thauvin? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlfonDaddy 273 Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 34 minutes ago, Floodstreet2017 said: Two goals over last season and this season against a top team in France. 1 versus PSG last season 1 against Lyon this season. Regularly disappears against the big teams then pops up against Amiens, Caen etc not sure why he should get a 92? Very generous from SM if he does. I don’t really see why who he scored against really matters. Surely his 22 league goals last season gained many important points for Marseille regardless of the opponent? Even the higher calibur players have quiet games. Hazard was almost invisible against Spurs at the weekend for example. Middle_Finger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlfonDaddy 273 Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, Sir Rahul said: You can guess my choice lol. Thauvin and cross your fingers for a rise in the morning 🤞🏻 Sir Rahul 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yuasa 211 Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 22 minutes ago, Sir Rahul said: Thauvin imo Sir Rahul 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hesselink 310 Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 Tammy Abraham will jump with Chelsea or Aston Villa review? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Rahul 7,356 Posted November 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 18 minutes ago, AlfonDaddy said: You can guess my choice lol. Thauvin and cross your fingers for a rise in the morning 🤞🏻 I have him, hope so Just now, hesselink said: Tammy Abraham will jump with Chelsea or Aston Villa review? if at all, Chelsea. but does he deserve 87? not sure. hesselink 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TMCosta 1,848 Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 51 minutes ago, nofoff said: NB: Not calling anyone out, just wanted to put my OPINION out there Pfiuuu 28 minutes ago, nofoff said: Couldn't agree more mate. That's why I don't answer half the questions on here. They are either too obvious to answer, have already been asked 1000 times, or I don't know a player well enough to comment. No point giving an opinion if you've just checked on transfermarkt/whoscored 38 minutes ago, Cvilhete said: Watching the football is always more credible than looking up stats, I understand with a game like SM stats are a major thing but a lot these guys giving opinions on players they haven't even watched play. In other words blind leading the blind 100% agreed...we are all on the same page...i see lot of football but i also use a lot transfermarkt and whoscored (powerful tools) Soccahappy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Damien1990 218 Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, hesselink said: Tammy Abraham will jump with Chelsea or Aston Villa review? Can't see him rising given the Championship rating cap. hesselink 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hesselink 310 Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 Moise KEAN & V.Junior any chance to jump? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DiamondCannon 26 Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 Anyone who has watched these players live can tell us anything about them: Maxi Gomez for Celta - Has scored 7 goals in the league, any rise? stay? Fabian Ruiz from Napoli? Chiesa Barkley, potential rise? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Agar84 2 Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 In your opinion, when Iniesta will drop? and how much? -2? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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