Hfazil 186 Report post Posted November 19, 2017 Should I Trade Mascherano for De Vrij or Marcus Alonso? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ombarcagunners 468 Report post Posted November 19, 2017 41 minutes ago, Hfazil said: Should I Trade Mascherano for De Vrij or Marcus Alonso? Definitely Mascherano is done because he's old and also he didnt play much lately 1 Middle_Finger reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rbb 11 Report post Posted November 19, 2017 48 minutes ago, Hfazil said: Should I Trade Mascherano for De Vrij or Marcus Alonso? Alonso Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlammy 95 Report post Posted November 19, 2017 Jordi Alba or Alex Sandro? Hummels or Pique? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cvilhete 574 Report post Posted November 19, 2017 43 minutes ago, jlammy said: Jordi Alba or Alex Sandro? Hummels or Pique? sandro, pique Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1000dB 405 Report post Posted November 20, 2017 3 hours ago, jlammy said: Jordi Alba or Alex Sandro? Hummels or Pique? Pique will turn 31yo and lose value soon (from 1 March onwards about 28m-24m). Similar as Godin who's a year older. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ombarcagunners 468 Report post Posted November 20, 2017 Never buy old players NO THANKS! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1000dB 405 Report post Posted November 20, 2017 Yep any player aged 27 or older is a bigger drain and it gets worse with every birthday candle they blow out in their 30s (a bit later for goalies and earlier for attacking players). If you really need an older player I'd limit myself to a select list of truly world class players that are worth considering and even then I wouldn't carry more than a few. 1 Sir Rahul reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hfazil 186 Report post Posted November 20, 2017 4 hours ago, 1000dB said: Yep any player aged 27 or older is a bigger drain and it gets worse with every birthday candle they blow out in their 30s (a bit later for goalies and earlier for attacking players). If you really need an older player I'd limit myself to a select list of truly world class players that are worth considering and even then I wouldn't carry more than a few. IIRC in the last 2 seasons Ronaldo's value has gone down from 70M to 39M! 1 Huggy reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1000dB 405 Report post Posted November 20, 2017 37 minutes ago, Hfazil said: IIRC in the last 2 seasons Ronaldo's value has gone down from 70M to 39M! He and Suarez have birthdays coming up and will lose quite a bit of value. Messi too is headed for a massive drop. I'm expecting Neymar to be the most expensive player in a rather short while. He's the €222m man after all (worth roughly 1/3 of that in-game). I wonder how much Messi would cost in the current market (he has a €300m buy-out clause right?). 1 Hfazil reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hfazil 186 Report post Posted November 20, 2017 1 minute ago, 1000dB said: He and Suarez have birthdays coming up and will lose quite a bit of value. Messi too is headed for a massive drop. I'm expecting Neymar to be the most expensive player in a rather short while. He's the €222m man after all (worth roughly 1/3 of that in-game). I wonder how much Messi would cost in the current market (he has a €300m buy-out clause right?). Yup and Benzema's is 500M... Makes a lot of sense Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1000dB 405 Report post Posted November 20, 2017 Just now, Hfazil said: Yup and Benzema's is 500M... Makes a lot of sense RM put much higher price-tags on their players (smart move as it turns out). TBH I didn't think the Neymar rumours would come true at first but after a while there was too much smoke and in the end the fire was very real. 1 Hfazil reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yuasa 210 Report post Posted November 20, 2017 @Sir Rahul, after the crazy lemar's +1, is possible naby keita +1? now i think is sure sterling and salah +1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cvilhete 574 Report post Posted November 20, 2017 10 minutes ago, Yuasa said: @Sir Rahul, after the crazy lemar's +1, is possible naby keita +1? now i think is sure sterling and salah +1 Not sure about Keita, but Sterling and Salah will probably rise. Salah 100% Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cvilhete 574 Report post Posted November 20, 2017 What game worlds are you guys playing in where not buying "old" players is a viable thing lol, quality is the most important thing you should be looking at when buying players, age is irrelevant if the quality is still there, younger players you have to take over from when the oldies start dropping down in ratings, reality is half these younger guys won't reach the level of their predecessors 1 Sir Rahul reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Der Chefscout 169 Report post Posted November 20, 2017 18 minutes ago, Yuasa said: @Sir Rahul, after the crazy lemar's +1, is possible naby keita +1? now i think is sure sterling and salah +1 Keita wouldn't be deserved but i think Goretzka rise to 91 Salah rise 100 % Manchester City Sane rise to 91 100 % i think Sterling stay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1000dB 405 Report post Posted November 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Cvilhete said: What game worlds are you guys playing in where not buying "old" players is a viable thing lol, quality is the most important thing you should be looking at when buying players, age is irrelevant if the quality is still there, younger players you have to take over from when the oldies start dropping down in ratings, reality is half these younger guys won't reach the level of their predecessors Jordi Alba or Alex Sandro? Hummels or Pique? My guess is there are very decent, and especially in Pique's case, younger players on the market if those options are available to you. Considering Alex Sandro is turning 27 I'd also like to point out that he'll drop in value soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hfazil 186 Report post Posted November 20, 2017 30 minutes ago, Cvilhete said: What game worlds are you guys playing in where not buying "old" players is a viable thing lol, quality is the most important thing you should be looking at when buying players, age is irrelevant if the quality is still there, younger players you have to take over from when the oldies start dropping down in ratings, reality is half these younger guys won't reach the level of their predecessors The point is to sell the old players before they drop. If u haven't sold them before their drop no one will be interested in him anymore and u are gonna be stuck with him especially in a competitive gw. For example a few days ago, I gave away Thiago Silva in exchange of Marquinhos. Today Silva went down to 93 and Marquinhos upto 92. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Rahul 4,285 Report post Posted November 20, 2017 On 25/10/2016 at 12:13 PM, Sir Rahul said: LIGUE 1 PSG: Di Maria -1 to 93- yes Marquinhos +1 to 92- yes Rabiot +1 to 91- yes Meunier +1 to 90- yes Mbappe +2 to 90- +3 to 91 Kimpembe +2 to 89- +1 to 88 Areola +1 to 90 Berchiche +1 to 89 Pastore -1 to 90 Moura -1 to 90 Silva -1 to 93 Lo Celso +2 to 87 Robail +3 to 73 Monaco: Subasic +1 to 90- yes Jemerson +1 to 90- yes Jorge +2 to 87- yes Lopes +2 to 87- yes Almamy Toure +1 to 86- yes Diakhaby +3 to 83- yes Falcao +1 to 92- nope Raggi -1 to 86- nope Lemar +1 to 91 Tielemans +1 to 89 Mexique +1 to 77 Vinagre +6 to 76 Mboula +3 to 76 Cardona +3 to 76 Tormin +3 to 76 Lyon: Lopes +1 to 90- yes Marcelo +1 to 88- yes Tousart +2 to 87- yes Tete +1 to 87- yes Grenier -1 to 87- yes Fekir +1 to 90- +2 to 91 Bertrand Traore +1 to 87- +2 to 88 Mariano +3 to 85- +5 to 87 Ndombele +3 to 83- +5 to 85 Ferland Mendy +3 to 85- +2 to 84 Aouar +1 to 78- +5 to 82 Morel +1 to 88- nope Rafael -1 to 88- nope Ferri -1 to 87- nope Yanga-Mbiwa -1 to 87- nope Marcal +1 to 88 Maolida +3 to 76 Marseille: Thauvin +1 to 90- yes Amavi +1 to 87- yes Ocampos +1 to 87- yes Zambo Anguissa +2 to 86- yes Abdennour -1 to 88- yes Bedimo -1 to 85- yes N'Jie +1 to 86- +2 to 87 Evra -1 to 90- -2 to 89 Sanson +1 to 89- nope Sakai +1 to 88- nope Rolando +1 to 88- nope Maxime Lopez +1 to 87- nope Sarr +1 to 85- nope Payet -1 to 91 Doria -1 to 86 Hubocan -1 to 86 Pele -1 to 86 Kamara +2 to 77 Nantes: Carlos +1 to 87- yes Thomasson +1 to 86- yes Dubois +1 to 86- yes Girotto +3 to 83- yes Toure +4 to 84- +3 to 83 Chidozie +2 to 84- +1 to 83 Djidji +1 to 86- nope Iloki +1 to 84- nope Sala +1 to 87 Rongier +1 to 86 Sigthorsson -1 to 86 Walongwa +2 to 78 Saint-Etienne: Janko +3 to 83- yes Pierre-Gabriel +3 to 83- yes Monnet-Paquet -1 to 86- yes M'Bengue -1 to 86- yes Bamba +2 to 84- +3 to 85 Dabo +1 to 86- nope Hamouma -1 to 87- nope Pajot -1 to 86- nope Silva -1 to 86 Maiga +5 to 80 Caen: Santini +1 to 87- yes Djiku +1 to 83- yes Kouakou +1 to 83- yes Repas +4 to 82- yes Dabo -1 to 83- yes Mbengue +6 to 80- yes Avounou +3 to 73- +6 to 76 Rodelin +1 to 87- nope Da Silva +1 to 87- nope Guilbert +1 to 86- nope Bazile +1 to 84- nope Delaplace -1 to 84- nope Montpellier: Lasne +1 to 86- yes Mukiele +2 to 85- yes Skhiri +1 to 86- yes Roussillon +1 to 86- yes Mbenza +2 to 84- yes Aguilar +2 to 84- +1 to 83 Hilton -1 to 86- nope Camara -1 to 84- nope Berigaud -1 to 84- nope Sambia +3 to 83 Dolly +1 to 83 Ikone +2 to 82 Poaty +2 to 75 Bordeaux: Kamano +1 to 87- yes Jovanovic +3 to 85- yes Plasil -1 to 87- yes Malcom +1 to 88- +2 to 89 Lerager +3 to 86- +2 to 85 Mendy +2 to 84- +1 to 83 Pellenard +5 to 83- +4 to 82 Sankhare +1 to 88- nope Toulalan -1 to 88 Otavio +2 to 87 De Preville +1 to 87 Cafu +1 to 86 Rennes: Bensebaini +1 to 86- yes Mubele +3 to 85- yes Traore +1 to 85- yes Maoussa +3 to 83- yes Gnagnon +2 to 85- +3 to 86 Sarr +2 to 85- +3 to 86 Bourigeaud +2 to 85- +3 to 86 Baal +1 to 86- nope Mexer -1 to 86- nope Gourcuff -1 to 86- nope Danze -1 to 86- nope M'Bolhi -1 to 82 Janvier +1 to 78 Lea Siliki +2 to 78 Tell +1 to 76 Gelin +2 to 75 Troyes: Pele +1 to 83- yes Niane +2 to 84- +3 to 85 Grandsir +7 to 82- +8 to 83 Herelle +4 to 84- +3 to 83 Azamoum +2 to 84- +1 to 83 Charles Traore +6 to 83- +5 to 82 Giraudon +2 to 80- +4 to 82 Rincon -1 to 82- -3 to 80 Dingome +2 to 85- nope Samassa +1 to 85- nope Khaoui +2 to 84- nope Darbion +1 to 84- nope Nivet -1 to 84- nope Vizcarrondo -1 to 85 Toulouse: Lafont +1 to 87- yes Diop +1 to 86- yes Akpa Akpro -1 to 85- yes Ninkov -1 to 82- yes Jullien +1 to 86- +2 to 87 Amian +5 to 85- +3 to 83 Moubandje +1 to 86- nope Somalia +1 to 85- nope Jean +1 to 85- nope Gradel -1 to 86- nope Imbula -1 to 87- nope Blin +1 to 86 Michelin +1 to 78 Sangare +1 to 78 Boisgard +3 to 73 Guingamp: Thuram +3 to 83- yes Privat -1 to 84- yes Rebocho +2 to 84- +1 to 83 Eboa Eboa +5 to 80- +3 to 78 Tabanou -1 to 86- -2 to 85 Johnsson +1 to 86- nope Kerbrat +1 to 86- nope Deaux +1 to 86- nope Ikoko +1 to 86- nope Phiri +1 to 84- nope Angoua -1 to 83 Livolant +3 to 73 Angers: Ekambi +1 to 86- yes Manceau +1 to 85- yes Pavlovic +2 to 82- yes Fulgini +2 to 84- +1 to 83 Letellier +2 to 84- +1 to 83 Tait +2 to 80- +4 to 82 Mangani +1 to 87- nope Andreu +1 to 85- nope Santamaria +1 to 86- nope Capelle +1 to 84- nope Ciss -1 to 83- nope Bamba -1 to 83- nope Guillaume +2 to 84 Nice: Sneijder -1 to 90- yes Srarfi +2 to 80- yes Burner +1 to 78- yes Saint-Maximin +2 to 86- +3 to 87 Souquet +1 to 86- +2 to 87 Lees-Melou +3 to 86- +2 to 85 Le Marchand +2 to 86- +1 to 85 Mendy -1 to 87- nope Malang Sarr +1 to 84- nope Dante -1 to 89 Benitez +1 to 83 Tameze +1 to 83 Mahou +3 to 76 Dijon: Rosier +5 to 80- yes Xeka +1 to 84- +2 to 85 Sliti +2 to 84- +3 to 85 Haddadi +2 to 84- +1 to 83 Chang-Hoon +2 to 84- +1 to 83 Marie +1 to 84- nope Amalfitano +1 to 84- nope Chafik +1 to 84- nope Sammaritano -1 to 84- nope Lautoa -1 to 85- nope Balmont -1 to 84- nope Tavares +1 to 85 Amiens: Monconduit +3 to 83- yes N'Gosso +2 to 80- yes Ielsch +1 to 80- yes Koita +3 to 76- yes Traore -1 to 86- yes Bodmer -1 to 85- yes Zungu +1 to 83- +2 to 84 Dibassy +4 to 82- +5 to 83 El Hajjam +4 to 82- +5 to 83 Manzala +4 to 82- +5 to 83 Adenon +1 to 84- nope Gurtner +1 to 84- nope Gouano +1 to 84- nope Gakpe -1 to 84- nope Avelar -1 to 84- nope Strasbourg: Kamara +3 to 83- yes Salmier +4 to 82- yes Da Costa +1 to 83- yes Saadi +1 to 84- yes Sacko +4 to 80- yes Seka +2 to 82- yes Terrier +3 to 80- yes Aholou +4 to 82- +5 to 83 Lienard +2 to 82- +3 to 83 Lala +1 to 84- nope Foulquier -1 to 84- nope Grimm +2 to 82 Lille: Alonso +1 to 86- yes Ballo Toure +5 to 78- yes Ie +3 to 85- +4 to 86 Araujo +4 to 82- +5 to 83 Bissouma +4 to 82- +5 to 83 Pepe +2 to 84- +3 to 85 Maignan +2 to 84- +1 to 83 Enyeama -1 to 88- -2 to 87 Amadou +1 to 86- nope Malcuit +2 to 87 Maia +1 to 87 Ponce +1 to 83 Koffi +3 to 80 Pollet +3 to 73 Metz: N'Guette +1 to 84- yes Balliu +2 to 85- +1 to 84 Poblete +2 to 85- +1 to 84 Udol +4 to 77- +5 to 78 Jallow +3 to 73- +5 to 75 Wollscheid -1 to 87- -2 to 86 Niakhate +3 to 83- nope Kawashima +1 to 84- nope Philipps +2 to 82- nope Jouffre -1 to 84- nope Roux -1 to 86 Cafu +1 to 84 Assou-Ekotto -1 to 84 Palmieri -1 to 84 Niane +3 to 73 One more day of PSG to go Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Rahul 4,285 Report post Posted November 20, 2017 On 19/11/2017 at 7:48 PM, Mickbor59 said: Sell Romagnoli and buy players who progress? depending on who 23 hours ago, Huggy said: Mbappe gone from 78 to 91 in just under 12months Crazy... Last player to do that was Gotze if i'm not mistaken? yeah 19 hours ago, PraetorianGuard said: Wow...+3 for Mbappe. Pleasant surprise. too fast 17 hours ago, Hfazil said: Should I Trade Mascherano for De Vrij or Marcus Alonso? Yes 15 hours ago, jlammy said: Jordi Alba or Alex Sandro? Hummels or Pique? Sandro Hummels 1 hour ago, Yuasa said: @Sir Rahul, after the crazy lemar's +1, is possible naby keita +1? now i think is sure sterling and salah +1 yes, possible. think those borderline 90s for young players who've seemingly hit the squad cap could hit 91. Keita, Goretzka etc. Deserved rise but too too soon. Sterling maybe, Salah for sure 1 jlammy reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cvilhete 574 Report post Posted November 20, 2017 2 hours ago, 1000dB said: Jordi Alba or Alex Sandro? Hummels or Pique? My guess is there are very decent, and especially in Pique's case, younger players on the market if those options are available to you. Considering Alex Sandro is turning 27 I'd also like to point out that he'll drop in value soon. Mate if 27 is old then you've lost me completely, and value is pretty irrelevant when you have a player like Sandro who could probably get to 93 at the end of the season, unfortunately value does not translate to performances in matches, there are only 3 left backs with a similar rating or higher than Sandro that is the only real value you need to negotiate with unless you are looking to sell for cash which then makes 0 sense unless you are in a cash only gw and then it would make even less sense to sell as you will not find any better, but I would love to hear which younger options you'd take over him. 2 hours ago, Hfazil said: The point is to sell the old players before they drop. If u haven't sold them before their drop no one will be interested in him anymore and u are gonna be stuck with him especially in a competitive gw. For example a few days ago, I gave away Thiago Silva in exchange of Marquinhos. Today Silva went down to 93 and Marquinhos upto 92. Yeah but Thiago silva was never mentioned tbh and I did say you get the young ones in when the older players start to drop in ratings, pique and Hummels were topic of conversation who are a few years younger and not in decline, selling Silva was a no brainer as most should've known he would drop, but in the case of Pique being 94 for me Value is not a problem because I am going for quality and not value because in reality the next guy to reach 94 will probably be around 30, so what then? And what is competitive to you guys, I feel like you may be going by number of managers in the gw, for me in a "competitive" gw 90% of managers know what they're doing and can negotiate accordingly, there is no way I can get Marquinhos for a 33yr old Silva who is declining I would have to pay an arm and a leg for him, 2 Ahmed and Sir Rahul reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mickbor59 31 Report post Posted November 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Sir Rahul said: en fonction de qui Ouais trop vite Oui Sandro Hummels Oui possible. pense que ceux des années 90 pour les jeunes joueurs qui ont apparemment atteint le plafond de l'équipe pourraient atteindre 91. Keita, Goretzka, etc. Sterling peut-être, Salah à coup sûr Sell romagnoli and take denis zalaria and clement lenglet and chiesa? It's good? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mickbor59 31 Report post Posted November 20, 2017 Denis zakaria +2 N.elvedi +2 M.ginter +1 M.meyer +1 ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mickbor59 31 Report post Posted November 20, 2017 Exchange belotti for werner? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cvilhete 574 Report post Posted November 20, 2017 15 minutes ago, Mickbor59 said: Exchange belotti for werner? yeah i'd take werner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
