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6 hours ago, Sir Rahul said:

Is there any way for me to help SM review players? Because seriously, they could use some god damn help.

Would kind of disagree with you. No offense but your predict lists only get a handful correct, and im speculating the ones in italics you didnt predict?

I can see Helander today being hard done by for sure, Falletti hasnt had a rise from his form last season at Ternana which got him the Bologna move,  But the Atalanta players deserved those rises on last season and tearing up Europa League this season

Papu Gomez is a top player and carries the side at times, he would be at a bigger club had Atalanta not kept offering him new contracts

Palomino, come in and impressed already - established in the first team

Why the surprise for Spinazzola? Played all the games once he was fit again and starting for Italy? Was always going to rise

They may have been soft on many clubs as there is no guessing how the rest of the season will turn out and Serie A mid table is always close fought, so id think holding back on the ratings until they see who shakes it up over the campaign that is left

Its not really glaringly wrong (as below lol) 

6 hours ago, tupac_healy said:

Who Now? Lol!!!!

But your efforts are much appreciated by many - kudos

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39 minutes ago, -JMH- said:

Would kind of disagree with you. No offense but your predict lists only get a handful correct, and im speculating the ones in italics you didnt predict?

I can see Helander today being hard done by for sure, Falletti hasnt had a rise from his form last season at Ternana which got him the Bologna move,  But the Atalanta players deserved those rises on last season and tearing up Europa League this season

Papu Gomez is a top player and carries the side at times, he would be at a bigger club had Atalanta not kept offering him new contracts

Palomino, come in and impressed already - established in the first team

Why the surprise for Spinazzola? Played all the games once he was fit again and starting for Italy? Was always going to rise

They may have been soft on many clubs as there is no guessing how the rest of the season will turn out and Serie A mid table is always close fought, so id think holding back on the ratings until they see who shakes it up over the campaign that is left

Its not really glaringly wrong (as below lol) 

But your efforts are much appreciated by many - kudos

Well that is debatable and even if it were the case, that could be down to SM's many errors as much as it could any omissions by Rahul. 

Let's face it, the reviews of each of the 3 big leagues done so far have been massively inconsistent. Nobody could be blamed for not predicting, for example, Pellenard getting a lower rise than players who don't start every game for relegation threatened teams. That type of inconsistency has been happening all over the place.

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2 hours ago, Monolithic said:

Well that is debatable and even if it were the case, that could be down to SM's many errors as much as it could any omissions by Rahul. 

Let's face it, the reviews of each of the 3 big leagues done so far have been massively inconsistent. Nobody could be blamed for not predicting, for example, Pellenard getting a lower rise than players who don't start every game for relegation threatened teams. That type of inconsistency has been happening all over the place.

Even so, its always a great debate. From my view, Pellenard was 77 in May, & has only accumulated 13 games since, so +1, +4 seems fair enough to 82, 83 would of been fair too, but the sake of a 1 point difference is it really a massive error. Gives optimism for another +4 should he hold down the LB spot. Off the top of my head, Mbengue getting 80 was a farce, but hopefully, like Akolo of Stuttgart, he gets a +5. 

But the inconsistencies are a handful really, then again i am a stickler for accuracy too so there's always bugging mistakes.

It doesnt ruin the gameplay for myself as much as i have seen some folks moaning around gameworld newsfeeds though :-D 

Hopefully they do another brief review around March, before the season ending one

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4 hours ago, -JMH- said:

Even so, its always a great debate. From my view, Pellenard was 77 in May, & has only accumulated 13 games since, so +1, +4 seems fair enough to 82, 83 would of been fair too, but the sake of a 1 point difference is it really a massive error. Gives optimism for another +4 should he hold down the LB spot. Off the top of my head, Mbengue getting 80 was a farce, but hopefully, like Akolo of Stuttgart, he gets a +5. 

But the inconsistencies are a handful really, then again i am a stickler for accuracy too so there's always bugging mistakes.

It doesnt ruin the gameplay for myself as much as i have seen some folks moaning around gameworld newsfeeds though :-D 

Hopefully they do another brief review around March, before the season ending one

Sorry, but I had to chuckle when I read that one. I mean, Nantes have almost twice as many points as Lille, and yet Lille probably had the more generous review. 

And Pellenard rising to 82 might have been fair enough, but not when you consider that someone like Nalini rose to 83. And certainly not when you think that players who aren't even starting every game in the 2nd tiers (Serdar Dursun, for example) rose to 82 as well. Madness.

We can agree to disagree again though.

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32 minutes ago, Monolithic said:

Sorry, but I had to chuckle when I read that one. I mean, Nantes have almost twice as many points as Lille, and yet Lille probably had the more generous review. 

And Pellenard rising to 82 might have been fair enough, but not when you consider that someone like Nalini rose to 83. And certainly not when you think that players who aren't even starting every game in the 2nd tiers (Serdar Dursun, for example) rose to 82 as well. Madness.

We can agree to disagree again though.

Do we just forget last season then? Nalini had minutes in Serie A, Pellenard was in Ligue 2. 

Its pretty well documented, Lille have the better players, and are massively underachieving probably no help from Bielsas shenanigans, and Nantes are massively overachieving with the Tinkerman

Yes probably, you could argue again several of those Lille rises were still from last season, Malcuit, Alonso, Pepe, Edgar Ie all breaking through at international level too. The way i see it the main guys from both clubs got the rises then needed, Diego Carlos, Sala. 

And cross comparing leagues that are ranked differently in the coefficients doesnt work either, back in the day that was a factor

Im down for making a list of all the glaring omissions next time round, then at least SM (if they do look here) have something to reference other than names thrown about here and there

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37 minutes ago, -JMH- said:

Do we just forget last season then? Nalini had minutes in Serie A, Pellenard was in Ligue 2. 

Its pretty well documented, Lille have the better players, and are massively underachieving probably no help from Bielsas shenanigans, and Nantes are massively overachieving with the Tinkerman

Yes probably, you could argue again several of those Lille rises were still from last season, Malcuit, Alonso, Pepe, Edgar Ie all breaking through at international level too. The way i see it the main guys from both clubs got the rises then needed, Diego Carlos, Sala. 

And cross comparing leagues that are ranked differently in the coefficients doesnt work either, back in the day that was a factor

Im down for making a list of all the glaring omissions next time round, then at least SM (if they do look here) have something to reference other than names thrown about here and there

Sorry, but I think you are reaching there. Nalini started 7 games across the whole of last season. Pellenard started 5 for Bordeaux. That is hardly reason for Nalini to be given a bigger rise this year.

You sound like you are employed as PR for SM though. ;)

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22 hours ago, jlammy said:

Bonucci to stay? 

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22 hours ago, -JMH- said:

Would kind of disagree with you. No offense but your predict lists only get a handful correct, and im speculating the ones in italics you didnt predict?

I can see Helander today being hard done by for sure, Falletti hasnt had a rise from his form last season at Ternana which got him the Bologna move,  But the Atalanta players deserved those rises on last season and tearing up Europa League this season

Helander has been hard done on every past review. considering Falletti has hardly played this season a +1 should have been enough. Ternana were almost relegated last year too.

Last season is last season, does the slate not wipe off?

Papu Gomez is a top player and carries the side at times, he would be at a bigger club had Atalanta not kept offering him new contracts

fair enough

Palomino, come in and impressed already - established in the first team

so he has. but that's the inconsistency. sometimes these sort of players get a +2, sometimes a +3. why didn't Hateboer get a +3 then? Gosens +2?

Why the surprise for Spinazzola? Played all the games once he was fit again and starting for Italy? Was always going to rise

maybe. but for what he's played this season a +2 to 89 is not justified.

They may have been soft on many clubs as there is no guessing how the rest of the season will turn out and Serie A mid table is always close fought, so id think holding back on the ratings until they see who shakes it up over the campaign that is left

Its not really glaringly wrong (as below lol) 

it's not. it's glaringly inconsistent.

But your efforts are much appreciated by many - kudos

 

On 26/11/2017 at 7:52 PM, Moz^ said:

How has REUS kept his 94? :blink:

very good question 

21 hours ago, Monolithic said:

Well that is debatable and even if it were the case, that could be down to SM's many errors as much as it could any omissions by Rahul. 

Let's face it, the reviews of each of the 3 big leagues done so far have been massively inconsistent. Nobody could be blamed for not predicting, for example, Pellenard getting a lower rise than players who don't start every game for relegation threatened teams. That type of inconsistency has been happening all over the place.

Yep, very true. I mean I obviously can't do the predictions a day before each team is done, I have a life outside SM. And my predictions are more a guide than gospel truth- and it's based on gametime stats, rather than what SM would do.

The inconsistency is real.

14 hours ago, Monolithic said:

Sorry, but I had to chuckle when I read that one. I mean, Nantes have almost twice as many points as Lille, and yet Lille probably had the more generous review. 

And Pellenard rising to 82 might have been fair enough, but not when you consider that someone like Nalini rose to 83. And certainly not when you think that players who aren't even starting every game in the 2nd tiers (Serdar Dursun, for example) rose to 82 as well. Madness.

We can agree to disagree again though.

agreed

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22 hours ago, Monolithic said:

Sorry, but I think you are reaching there. Nalini started 7 games across the whole of last season. Pellenard started 5 for Bordeaux. That is hardly reason for Nalini to be given a bigger rise this year.

You sound like you are employed as PR for SM though. ;)

Well, your being selective there. he appeared 17 times in the top flight, Pellenard was shipped out to Ligue 2. Pellenard will be 86/87 in 6 months, then its all done and dusted.

No, just winds me up when folks talk absolute nonsense, and overreact at what they see as errors when clearly they dont look at the bigger picture, ikr/what rubbish/nonsense etc etc

How ive always seen it, ratings are not a 'window to window' gauge on stats from Day 1 of the season to where are we, game 13?14? its about a 18 month period, 1.5 seasons, to take into context, you dont forget what happened last season, or previous achievements IE Atalanta,  its all accumulative. Across the 3 GWs i play there was moaning about no rise for Areola - its clear why when you look at it over the 1.5 season. Someone was greatly upset Weiser didnt go up but Plattenhardt did. Again you can see why if you look into it. He also claimed it was a joke that a nobody such as Seb Rudy got 91 - clearly he forgot just how good he was last season and for Germany at the Confed cup. He would walk into any other side.

But there is mistakes. Helander. Yes. Weigl CB . No DM/CM for Max Meyer. why? 

9 hours ago, Sir Rahul said:

I was going to start making a list of all the questionable changes, then realised there was far too many and I couldn't be bothered.

Palomino, come in and impressed already - established in the first team

so he has. but that's the inconsistency. sometimes these sort of players get a +2, sometimes a +3. why didn't Hateboer get a +3 then? Gosens +2?

(At a push i would say they are considering Palomino's conquests last season in a full campaign for Ludogorets, and playing CL, Hateboer was a reserve for the 2nd part of the 16/17 season, Gosens this season is a backup)

Why the surprise for Spinazzola? Played all the games once he was fit again and starting for Italy? Was always going to rise

maybe. but for what he's played this season a +2 to 89 is not justified.

( yet he is regarded as one of the best left fullback/wingbacks in the league, so his rating should reflect that, last season included)

Well if we dont, then whose going to question it? You can only address the problem if you create awareness. Like is said next time around i will contribute

 

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39 minutes ago, -JMH- said:

Well, your being selective there. he appeared 17 times in the top flight, Pellenard was shipped out to Ligue 2. Pellenard will be 86/87 in 6 months, then its all done and dusted.

No, just winds me up when folks talk absolute nonsense, and overreact at what they see as errors when clearly they dont look at the bigger picture, ikr/what rubbish/nonsense etc etc

How ive always seen it, ratings are not a 'window to window' gauge on stats from Day 1 of the season to where are we, game 13?14? its about a 18 month period, 1.5 seasons, to take into context, you dont forget what happened last season, or previous achievements IE Atalanta,  its all accumulative. Across the 3 GWs i play there was moaning about no rise for Areola - its clear why when you look at it over the 1.5 season. Someone was greatly upset Weiser didnt go up but Plattenhardt did. Again you can see why if you look into it. He also claimed it was a joke that a nobody such as Seb Rudy got 91 - clearly he forgot just how good he was last season and for Germany at the Confed cup. He would walk into any other side.

But there is mistakes. Helander. Yes. Weigl CB . No DM/CM for Max Meyer. why? 

Well if we dont, then whose going to question it? You can only address the problem if you create awareness. Like is said next time around i will contribute

 

I agree max meyer needs to get that dm/cm position, cant you edit it on soccerwiki

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1 hour ago, -JMH- said:

Well, your being selective there. he appeared 17 times in the top flight, Pellenard was shipped out to Ligue 2. Pellenard will be 86/87 in 6 months, then its all done and dusted.

No, just winds me up when folks talk absolute nonsense, and overreact at what they see as errors when clearly they dont look at the bigger picture, ikr/what rubbish/nonsense etc etc

How ive always seen it, ratings are not a 'window to window' gauge on stats from Day 1 of the season to where are we, game 13?14? its about a 18 month period, 1.5 seasons, to take into context, you dont forget what happened last season, or previous achievements IE Atalanta,  its all accumulative. Across the 3 GWs i play there was moaning about no rise for Areola - its clear why when you look at it over the 1.5 season. Someone was greatly upset Weiser didnt go up but Plattenhardt did. Again you can see why if you look into it. He also claimed it was a joke that a nobody such as Seb Rudy got 91 - clearly he forgot just how good he was last season and for Germany at the Confed cup. He would walk into any other side.

Well no, not selective. Even if you look at the last 18 months, Pellenard has played more minutes than Nalini. It is a clear mistake, but let's leave it there on that one.

And, of course, you would hope that players will continue to rise to 86/87. But then you look at someone like Djidji of Nantes, who should have been an absolute certainty for a +1, and you throw your hands up in the air again. :)

I can agree with you about the very highly rated players though. They shouldn't be getting rises based on a few games and sometimes people are overly critical of SM on things like that.

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