lunastorta 2,289 Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 I have MESSI 99 - NEYMAR 96 - BALE 95 on my 433w and Navas 90, Nasri 90, Luan 89, Okazaki 89 Podolsky 89 Today Ousmane Dembele rise 88 >>> 90 Good. Very Good. I'm happy for my past investment. WAIT! What the Hell? Dembele rise also +1 for player concern. This morning he had 0 level concern, and this afternoon after the rise 88 >>> 90, he has 1 level. ON THE SAME DAY!!! How ? Are you kidding me? He has rise NOW, no match played TODAY!! WHY Dembele has +1 playern concer??? I don't see any logic. NONSENSE. Today the system has calculated the concern, It took Dembele with 90, It has seen Dembele didn't play in the last 10 matches, and It has given it 1 point-level concern. LOL and ROTFL and . I think SM staff need to work to improve "player concern", today what is happening is ridiculous Manuster - Emmanuel Alagba, MacGoreth and nmathew1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kev 943 Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 I had exactly the same today with Sule. nmathew1, lunastorta, Soccahappy and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lunastorta 2,289 Posted May 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 I sent a message to SM Dev Vicky, SM Dev Mark, SM Dev Andy, SM Staff Steven Wait some answer. nmathew1, Kev, MacGoreth and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soccahappy 8,802 Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Concerns have gone mad I got 4 or 5 all in one day & some had only just got past Transfer Ban - no time to sell. It's WAR on customers who scout for risers to compete with big clubs. SM he say customers are SM, IF SM=Stupid Mug Customers NoelM, Manuster - Emmanuel Alagba, lunastorta and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MacGoreth 909 Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 http://imgur.com/a/feQKK What about Brahim Diaz getting +1 level concern for lacking of playing time, when he is 10th in the pecking order for either of his positions? LMAO I think SM is either trolling us, or this is a bug and they aren't aware of it, or maybe they are just bloody stupid and they genuinely see nothing wrong with it. I would really like to hear what excuse they have for this. This is just plain idiotic. Bunch of idiots running this game. Manuster - Emmanuel Alagba, lunastorta and Middle_Finger 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lunastorta 2,289 Posted May 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 Where are the developers? Give us an answer! Manuster - Emmanuel Alagba and nmathew1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kev 943 Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 My Wolves team: average rating 86 - Dorcsh (75) and Sheaf (70) concerned about lack of games. That doesn't seem right... lunastorta and Middle_Finger 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Manuster - Emmanuel Alagba 7 Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 I have 2 FULL SQUADS of players rated 92-96. I have about 20 90-91 loaned out players and 80% of them have concerns. I started building this team in 2013. I bought Raheem Sterling when he was 6.8 Million. almost 3 years ago. And now I have to sell him because he has concerns about a lack of games and being on loan. I AM NOT ALLOWED TO BUILD A SUCCESSFUL TEAM BECAUSE OF THIS STUPIDITY REGARDING CONCERNS. JUST THIS WEEK I GOT 4, FOUR NEW 90 RATED PLAYERS AND BY THE END OF THE SEASON THEY WILL ALL HAVE CONCERNS. Am I not allowed to build a strong team? For almost 2 years I was the only active manager on this game world; I built a strong team and now it seems I am being punished for doing that lunastorta 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dannyb01y 1,693 Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 On 13/05/2017 at 2:38 PM, Manuster - Emmanuel Alagba said: I have 2 FULL SQUADS of players rated 92-96. I have about 20 90-91 loaned out players and 80% of them have concerns. I started building this team in 2013. I bought Raheem Sterling when he was 6.8 Million. almost 3 years ago. And now I have to sell him because he has concerns about a lack of games and being on loan. I AM NOT ALLOWED TO BUILD A SUCCESSFUL TEAM BECAUSE OF THIS STUPIDITY REGARDING CONCERNS. JUST THIS WEEK I GOT 4, FOUR NEW 90 RATED PLAYERS AND BY THE END OF THE SEASON THEY WILL ALL HAVE CONCERNS. Am I not allowed to build a strong team? For almost 2 years I was the only active manager on this game world; I built a strong team and now it seems I am being punished for doing that You are a player hoarder pure and simple. This is why concerns were developed. Playing in an empty dead game world why would you even need all those players?! RoyalAguila and TMCosta 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Manuster - Emmanuel Alagba 7 Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Dannyb01y said: You are a player hoarder pure and simple. This is why concerns were developed. Playing in an empty dead game world why would you even need all those players?! 11 managers.... 6 of them are above 250 Rep As for the players, I never said I needed them but I am being penalised for making smart investments. I bought these players over several years for the increase in money and incase any of them turn out to be good. After all, why buy a player when he's 94 rated and costs 50 mil when you can get him 7 years earlier for 5mil??? My full squad IS enough, I can theoretically pick 5/6 of my favourite youths and sell the rest, only to buy them back later when my current squad turns out. But if I am going to sell players I will do it because I want to, not because they scrapped 90 less than 6 months ago. lunastorta 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RoyalAguila 434 Posted June 3, 2017 Report Share Posted June 3, 2017 It's simply a bug. To put it clear, let's take the case of Dembele. "Players that would expect to be in your first choice line-up and those rated 90 or higher will expect to play in approximately 65% of the number of Turns". In theory you would expect that Dembele start checking the new request of % from the moment he got 90+. But what actually happens, it is that Dembele started checking, as soon as he hitted 90, if during the whole season did at least 65% of presence when eligible, Since it wasn't the case, he got immediately concerned. Good news is: you can start to play him regularly and his level 1 concern will soon fade, if you plan to stick with him long term. Therefore, every manager should be very wary when in rating changing an outfield player rise to 89+ and 88+ for gk, and be ready to quickly shift the main XI if you want to stick with a talent long term. I reported to SM, but they simply told in case to play regularly the newly unhappy players if you wish to keep them (since they are level 1 of concern, the concern will wash away fast). lunastorta and Nico66 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dannyb01y 1,693 Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Its not a bug in the case of the opening post. SM has decided to make the system work this way. Any active manager knows when their players are likely to rise to the 90 threshold and expect gametime. It's a fairly easy system to manipulate to your benefit. Any smart manager would have offloaded Nasri or Podolski now because they're in decline. Why you haven't played Dembele in the past 10 games before the rise is a mystery to me, Hes only 1 rating worse than those players mentioned, he wouldn't performed much worse at all. You're just paying extra wages to Nasri and or Podolski when you could be saving £60k+ a week. Some of those youths getting concerns seem a bit wrong but its never happened to me. I always loan out as many players to save wages. Nico66 and RoyalAguila 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nico66 2,894 Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 Yeah it's right. I too thought that players developing concerns shortly after getting a rating increase was a bug or at least a glitch in the program but when I raised a bug report SM replied that it is not a bug at all. Might not seem fair but this is how it seems the system is working right now. RoyalAguila 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RoyalAguila 434 Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 On 6/6/2017 at 3:26 AM, Nico66 said: Yeah it's right. I too thought that players developing concerns shortly after getting a rating increase was a bug or at least a glitch in the program but when I raised a bug report SM replied that it is not a bug at all. Might not seem fair but this is how it seems the system is working right now. The concerns system overall works good, but I would just tweak two things: 1) Applying the new request of % gametime only starting AFTER the rise has happened (so in Dembele case of OP when Dembele hitted 90, he would check the 65% only from that point on at following check of presences for concerns, and not checking the new % based on the whole season when he wasn't 90). After all, when a player just changed his rating, it's reasonable that the player shouldn't expect to have played as much when he still didn't have the new rating. 2) Concerns are way too slow. I would just put 3 levels: concerned, very concerned, request transfer. In case of multiple concerns, the sum up to 5 would cause the request of transfer. This would be great against playerhoggers and it would allow the market to have more available players and more transfer activity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DALE SULLIVAN 1 Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 same here, also had a 78 go up from my youth team!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lunastorta 2,289 Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 On 7/6/2017 at 9:48 AM, RoyalAguila said: 2) Concerns are way too slow. I would just put 3 levels: concerned, very concerned, request transfer. No problem, but also rewiews must be more fast I have Messi, Neymar, Bale, Cazorla, Nasri in that role Why Dembele or Luan wanna play instead of that monsters? They are too young for to go in regular team, if we see age, real experience, international fame. IMHO Dembele rating is low respect Draxler, Moura or Joao Mario. The unfair reviews penalizes this investment Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RoyalAguila 434 Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 2 hours ago, lunastorta said: No problem, but also rewiews must be more fast I have Messi, Neymar, Bale, Cazorla, Nasri in that role Why Dembele or Luan wanna play instead of that monsters? They are too young for to go in regular team, if we see age, real experience, international fame. IMHO Dembele rating is low respect Draxler, Moura or Joao Mario. The unfair reviews penalizes this investment Well, you answered your question by yourself with the above statement. Dembele, as a 90 rated outfield player, expect to play 65%, while Vieira Luan as 89 - expects 30-40% of playtime. GK concerns are a bit different, as 88+ gk requires 90%+ of gametime. It doesn't matter their age and the other players in their position, if they consider enough good enough to have their run of games, they will demand it and if you don't give them the needed playtime, over the course of time you will lose them. So either you play them the needed % or you lose them, fair and simple. If you don't plan to give them the needed % of game in the long run, you are better offloading them now, before they lose more and more SM value as they get more concerned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lunastorta 2,289 Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Yes, but Dembele skip to level 1 concern the day when he had a rise to 90. SM Staff must be resolve this ing bug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lunastorta 2,289 Posted June 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 Unbelieveble! DEMBELE LEVEL 2 CONCERN AFTER ONLY 1 MONTH!!!!! 9 MATCHES played in First Team on 14!!! Please, give a look 12 MAY: Dembele 88 > 90 : RISE Level 1 Concern 23 JUNE: Dembele 90 > 90 : RISE Level 2 Concern In all this time Dembele has played: 1) League Match: First Team 2) Shield Match: First Team 3) League Match: First Team 4) League Match: First Team 5) League Match: injured 6) League Match: Sub 7) Shield Match: First Team 8) League Match: Sub 9) League Match: Sub 10) League Match: Sub 11) League Match: First Team 12) Shield Match: Sub 13) League Match: First Team 14) League Match: First Team 15) League Match: First Team 15 Matches: 9 First team, 5 Sub, 1 injured In this role I have: MESSI 99 NEYMAR 96 BALE 95 CAZORLA 91 EDER 90 MOSES 90 JESUS NAVAS 90, >> 89 after 4) League Match Module 433w No doubt, something's wrong. SOLUTIONS: A - I need to sell BALE 95 for give more chance to Dembele 90. B - I need to make some deal with other player with same problem to exchange ours players and exchange and exchange and exchange (fair deal but immoral) for bypass the concern problem C - I need to sell DEMBELE 90, only 19 years old, losing a great talent In real world, this is illogic. 9 first team matches and 5 subs matches on a big team with Messi Neymar Bale. I'm very disappointed. And look my first post: Dembele RISE unfair to level 1 concern after the review. SM staff is without shame. AND YOU KNOW THE LEVEL CONCERN for EDER or MOSES? Level concern 0 Eder 0 on 15 matches Moses 3 first team, 4 subs, on 15 matches THIS IS INSANE!!!!!!! SM STAFF GO TO PLAY ON BEACH AGAIN Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smut 7,880 Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 On 6/9/2017 at 7:49 PM, lunastorta said: Yes, but Dembele skip to level 1 concern the day when he had a rise to 90. SM Staff must be resolve this ing bug It isn't a bug. This problem has existed for a long time. When sm last bothered to make changes to the game , 2 or 3 years ago, this was one of many they messed up on. Whenever a player rises, the system takes it as though they have been that rating for the whole season. You are left to either keep playing them until the concerns go away or sell them. I find that starting them and replacing them at half time still helps, it seems that the system sees this as playing a whole game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lunastorta 2,289 Posted July 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 really? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thorgan lesar 2,789 Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 On Friday, May 12, 2017 at 4:01 PM, lunastorta said: I have MESSI 99 - NEYMAR 96 - BALE 95 on my 433w and Navas 90, Nasri 90, Luan 89, Okazaki 89 Podolsky 89 Today Ousmane Dembele rise 88 >>> 90 Good. Very Good. I'm happy for my past investment. WAIT! What the Hell? Dembele rise also +1 for player concern. This morning he had 0 level concern, and this afternoon after the rise 88 >>> 90, he has 1 level. ON THE SAME DAY!!! How ? Are you kidding me? He has rise NOW, no match played TODAY!! WHY Dembele has +1 playern concer??? I don't see any logic. NONSENSE. Today the system has calculated the concern, It took Dembele with 90, It has seen Dembele didn't play in the last 10 matches, and It has given it 1 point-level concern. LOL and ROTFL and . I think SM staff need to work to improve "player concern", today what is happening is ridiculous Maybe he doesn't play. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lunastorta 2,289 Posted July 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 On 12/7/2017 at 4:01 PM, thorgan lesar said: Maybe he doesn't play. You win. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Allan-NI 10,006 Posted July 18, 2017 Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 Dembele at 88 would have wanted 40% of games, you said you didn't use him in 10 games so he didn't get his 40% game time, I'm not surprised he got concerned. You then played him in 95% of games since his concern but even that wasn't enough to stop it rising as when you take into account his expectations for the whole season. From my calculations Dembele would have wanted At Review 1 - 40% of 1st 12 turns = 5 games // At Review 2 - 65% of 2nd 12 turns = 8 games So he'd have wanted 13 games? You used him in 11.5 games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lunastorta 2,289 Posted August 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 On 18/7/2017 at 8:59 PM, Allan-NI said: Dembele at 88 would have wanted 40% of games, you said you didn't use him in 10 games so he didn't get his 40% game time The problem is same for Luan 89 or Edson Moraes 88 or Christensen 89 or GABRIEL JESUS 89 or Bruma 88 Ben Davies 88 or Jhonny Castro 88 or Kranevitter 88 or Kessie 88 or Rafhinha 88 or Oyarzabal 88 or Gelson Martin 8 and others >89 Why they don't have any concerns for not play any game? And I have others 90 who don't play matches and don't have any concerns. Mistery in the box. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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