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Belgian talents (1997 – 2003)

 

44 Brent Gabriël (19 years old, Club Brugge)

43 Thibaud Verlinden (19 years old, Stoke City)

42 Senna Miangue (21 years old, Standard de Liège)

41 Manuel Benson (21 years old, KRC Genk on loan to Excel Moeskroen)

40 Tibo Persyn (16 years old, Internazionale)

39 Rubin Seigers (20 years old, KRC Genk)

38 Dries Wouters (21 years old, KRC Genk)

37 Franco Antonucci (19 years old, AS Monaco)

36 Brandon Baiye (17 years old, Club Brugge KV)

35 Flor Van Den Eynden (18 years old, Internazionale)

34 Alessandro Albanese (18 years old, Eintracht Frankfurt)

33 Logan Ndenbe (18 years old, KV Oostende)

32 Albert Sambi Lokonga (18 years old, RSC Anderlecht)

31 Samuel Asoma (16 years old, Club Brugge KV)

30 Orel Mangala (VFB Stuttgart on loan to Hamburger SV, 20 years old)

29 Gaëtan Coucke (KRC Genk on loan to Lommel United, 19 years old)

28 Wout Faes (KV Oostende, 20 years old)

27 Thibault Vlietinck (Club Brugge KV, 21 years old)

26 Dante Vanzeir (KRC Genk on loan to Beerschot-Wilrijk, 20 years old)

25 Indy Boonen (KV Oostende, 19 years old)

24 Francis Amuzu (19 years old, RSC Anderlecht)

23 Ilias Moutha-Sebtaoui (RSC Anderlecht, 19 years old)

22 Killian Sardella (RSC Anderlecht, 16 years old)

21 Elias Sierra (KRC Genk, 16 years old)

20 Maxime Delanghe (PSV Eindhoven, 17 years old)

19 Keres Masangu (AS Roma, 18 years old)

18 Loïs Openda (Club Brugge KV, 18 years old)

17 Dante Rigo (PSV Eindhoven, 19 years old)

16 Nicolas Raskin (KAA Gent, 17 years old)

15 Xian Emmers (Internazionale on loan to Crémonense, 19 years old)

14 Jonathan De Bie (Tottenham Hotspurs, 18 years old)

13 Eliot Matazo (AS Monaco, 16 years old)

12 Mario Stroeykens (RSC Anderlecht, 15 years old)

11 Landry Nany Dimata (RSC Anderlecht, 20 years old)

 

10 Halim Timassi (RSC Anderlecht, 16 years old)

9 Bryan Heynen (21 years old, KRC Genk)

8 Elias Cobbaut (20 years old, RSC Anderlecht)

7 Sebastiaan Bornauw (19 years old, RSC Anderlecht)

6 Adrien Bongiovanni (18 years old, AS Monaco on loan to Cercle Brugge)

 

5 Zinho Vanheusden (19 years old, central defender, Internazionale on loan to Standard de Liège)

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4 Maarten Vandevoordt (16 years old, goalkeeper, KRC Genk)

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3 Jérémy Doku (16 years old, Winger, RSC Anderlecht)

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2 Alexis Saelemaekers (19 years old, right midfielder, RSC Anderlecht)

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1. Youri Tielemans (21 years old, central midfielder, AS Monaco)

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Those pleyers I don’t follow enough to give them a place in this list:

 

Yayi Mpie (UC Sampdoria), Nordin Jackers (KRC Genk), Amadou Mvom Onana (TSG Hoffenheim), Jordy Gillekens (AC Fiorentina), Sekou Sidibe (PSV Eindhoven), Rabbi Mwenda (ADO Den Haag), Larry Ramazani (Manchester United), Jason Eyenga-Lokilo (FC Lorient), Seppe Boonen (Manchester United), Antef Tsoungui (Chelsea FC), William Balikwisha (Standard de Liège), Evangelos Patoulidis (Standard de Liège), Anaxis Dinsifwa (Standard de Liège)

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On 9/19/2018 at 11:08 AM, thorgan lesar said:

Belgian talents (1994  - 1996)

 

Why from 1994 till 1996 ? These players already played “a lot of games” and is a bit difficult to compare with players that didn’t play yet or didn’t play enough. The next list is from 1997 till 2003

 

 

 

23. Sander Coopman (anniversary year 1995)

 

22. Charly Musonda Jr. (anniversary year 1996)

 

21. Jordi Vanlerberghe (anniversary year 1996)

 

20. Dion Cools (anniversary 1996)

 

19. Samuel Bastien (anniversary 1996)

 

18. Siebe Schrijvers (anniversary 1996)

 

17. Jordan Lukaku (anniversary 1994)

 

16. Obbi Oularé (anniversary 1996)

 

15. Birger Verstraete (anniversary 1994)

 

14. Davy Roef (anniversary 1994)

 

13. Björn Engels (anniversary 1994)

 

12. Théo Bongonda (anniversary 1995)

 

11. Zakaria Bakkali (anniversary 1994)

 

 

 

10. Anthony Limbombe (anniversary 1994)

 

9. Leander Dendoncker (anniversary 1995)

 

8. Divock Origi (anniversary 1995)

 

7. Thomas Foket (anniversary 1994)

 

6. Timothy Castagne (anniversary 1995)

 

 

 

5. Jason Denayer (central defender, anniversary 1995, club: Olympique Lyonnais)

 

 

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4. Isaac Mbenza (Winger, anniversary 1996, club: Huddersfield Town)

 

 

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3. Adnan Januzaj (Winger, anniversary 1995, club: Real Sociedad)

 

 

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2. Léandro Trossard (Winger, anniversary 1994, club: KRC Genk)

 

 

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1. Dennis Praet (central midfielder, anniversary 1994, club: UC Sampdoria)

 

 

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@thorgan lesar firstly, top job on the lists. How did you rank them? A mix of how far along they've come already and talents with a high ceiling (potential that's yet to be unlocked)? Would you consider adding your view on their future potential?

Praet: cannot but agree to put him first. Did more than Dendoncker to merit a place in Belgium's World Cup squad. The steps he has taken puts him ahead of the others. Recently returned from injury and immediately gets to start against Inter.

Denayer: he did help Gala in their title run last year and I feel he can improve in France. I'd rank him ahead of Mbenza. Frenchies felt Mbenza was still quite raw and I've reservations about his move to England.

Cools: it didn't look pretty against Dortmund. Just the one game but the CL is a great podium to show the world what you're made off. How has he performed in the Pro League so far?

Musonda Jr.: sounds like his injury isn't as bad as feared and he should soon enough make his debut for Vitesse. Really needs to get his career on track asap.

Bakkali: has he done much? Feels like he's ranked too highly (I don't watch Anderlecht unless it's in Europe).

 

The ones on your 1997-2003 I either haven't watched at all or it's too small of a sample to judge them. I'd love more info on these talents, especially on Vanheusden, not necessarily right now but as they develop throughout the season(s).

 

PS just returned from Eindhoven, had been spending a few days there. Getting back in shape (odd to walk past so many coffeeshops and NOT smoke a joint; didn't even have a drink). I shouldn't be this sore but my mind pushes me further than my body can handle. Also, PSV needs to do some upkeep to their stadium (in before: I didn't break anything).

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4 hours ago, 1000dB said:

@thorgan lesar firstly, top job on the lists. How did you rank them? A mix of how far along they've come already and talents with a high ceiling (potential that's yet to be unlocked)? Would you consider adding your view on their future potential?

Praet: cannot but agree to put him first. Did more than Dendoncker to merit a place in Belgium's World Cup squad. The steps he has taken puts him ahead of the others. Recently returned from injury and immediately gets to start against Inter.

Denayer: he did help Gala in their title run last year and I feel he can improve in France. I'd rank him ahead of Mbenza. Frenchies felt Mbenza was still quite raw and I've reservations about his move to England.

Cools: it didn't look pretty against Dortmund. Just the one game but the CL is a great podium to show the world what you're made off. How has he performed in the Pro League so far?

Musonda Jr.: sounds like his injury isn't as bad as feared and he should soon enough make his debut for Vitesse. Really needs to get his career on track asap.

Bakkali: has he done much? Feels like he's ranked too highly (I don't watch Anderlecht unless it's in Europe).

 

The ones on your 1997-2003 I either haven't watched at all or it's too small of a sample to judge them. I'd love more info on these talents, especially on Vanheusden, not necessarily right now but as they develop throughout the season(s).

 

PS just returned from Eindhoven, had been spending a few days there. Getting back in shape (odd to walk past so many coffeeshops and NOT smoke a joint; didn't even have a drink). I shouldn't be this sore but my mind pushes me further than my body can handle. Also, PSV needs to do some upkeep to their stadium (in before: I didn't break anything).

The list “Belgian talents (1994 – 1996)” is based on a mix, but here was it a bit more important how far along they’ve come already. The list “Belgian talents (1997 – 2003)” alround based on their potential and about my own knowledge. More information is for later.

 

 

 

Later on I can absolutely adding my view on their future potential. I can do that on it’s own time and then there is (finally) something to look forward to it for the readers 😊.

 

Dennis Praet – I agree with the fact Praet deserved more to be in the WC Squad, but also he didn’t deserved the WC Squad because there is a lot of competitors on his place. He’s playing a bit higher on the field then Dendoncker.

 

Jason Denayer – is growing to his best level in Olympique Lyonnais and he has a place in the first 11. We’ll if he can continue, but it’s promissing.

 

Dion Cools – rate 85 is the highest rate possible based on his season this year. This is his peak, it’s not looking good if I need to be honest. Clinton Mata is still injured and Emmanuel Dennis is getting more and more chances on his place. He also has a little injury and Ivan Leko has chosen for Thibault Vlietinck since Borussia Dortmund.

 

So the person that Dion Cools has in his squad in Soccer Manager, it’s probably better to sell him.

 

Charly Musonda Jr. – the atmosphere in Belgium is not good. We are tired to have patience with him and now with his injury it will be difficult to fight back. He isn’t playing and now with an injury (1 – 2 months ?) it’s not looking good again. He wanted to leave in Chelsea, but he was forced to go to Vitesse Arnhem on loan. That’s also not promissing for his future.

 

Zakaria Bakkali – he comes from far and he wasn’t ready physically for 90 minutes on the highest level. Last weeks he’s playing more and he is growing, but i twill need some time probably. If I need to be honest the ones who are behind him aren’t that great players. Birger Verstraete for example is not a player with high technical possibilities in his game, but he has a good mentality and can on long term be a good back-up option fort he Red Devils.

A player like Bakkali has these possibilities and did it okay in Spain (previous season) and see him growing now in Belgium… .

 

 

(Did you enjoy the game and the weekend in Eindhoven ? Haha, I don’t have that problem luckily 😉. Each stadium (except KAA Gent) in Belgium has the same problem… )

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Some early predictions:

(There are more, but these players are more interesting. It can change fast)

 

CLUB BRUGGE KV.

 

Arnaut ‘Danjuma’ Groeneveld (78 à 82)

Karlo Letica (80 à 82)

Moraes Wesley (83 à 85)

Benoît Poulain (83 à 84)

 

KRC GENK

 

John Lucumi (78 à 82)

Joakim Maehle (82 à 84)

Leandro Trossard (85 à 86)

 

ROYAL ANTWERP FC.

 

Simen Juklerod (78 à 82)

 

RSC ANDERLECHT

 

Alexis Saelemaekers (73 à 80)

Thomas Didillon (85 à 86)

Francis Amuzu (76 à 78)

Sebastiaan Bornauw (73 à 75)

Yevhen Makarenko (84 à 85)

 

KAA GENT

 

Birger Verstraete (82 à 84)

Jonathan David (73 à 78)

Giorgi Chakvetadze (80 à 81)

 

STANDARD DE LIEGE

 

Moussa Djenepo (76 à 80)

 

KV OOSTENDE

 

Indy Boonen (73 à 76)

Wout Faes (78 à 80)

Fashion Sakala (77 à 80)

 

STVV

 

Takehiro Tomiyasu (76 à 80)

Casper De Norre (78 à 82)

 

CERCLE BRUGGE

 

Adrien Bongiovanni (73 à 76)

Guévin Tormin (76 à 78)

 

CHARLEROI SC

 

Ali Gholizadeh (78 à 80)

Marco Ilaimaharitra (82 à 83)

 

KAS EUPEN

 

Rocky Bushiri (73 à 76)

Silas Gnaka (75 à 78)

Yuta Toyokawa (78 à 80)

Cheik Keita (82 à 83)

 

KV KORTRIJK

 

Brendan Hines-Ike (80 à 82)

 

ZULTE WAREGEM

 

Hicham Faik (82 à 83)

 

LOKEREN OSV

 

Ortwin De Wolf (73 à 78)

Bambo Diaby (70 à 75)

 

WAASLAND-BEVEREN

 

Aleksandar Vukotic (77 à 80)

Denzel Jubitana (65 à 75)

 

EXCELSIOR MOESKROEN

 

Frank Boya (73 à 76)

Benjamin Van Durmen (76 à 78)

Frantzdy Pierrot (70 à 75)

Jean Butez (76 à 78)

 

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THE BELGIAN CUP:

(the teams in bold are the teams from 1st division - Jupiler Pro League)

 

Tuesday

KAS Eupen - AFC Tubize (2nd division) 3-0

Waasland-Beveren - Mandel United (Amateur II) 1-2

Harelbeke (Amateur II) - KV Kortrijk 0-1

 

Wednesday

Cercle Brugge - Beerschot-Wilrijk (2nd division) 1-2

Virton (Amateur 1) - KAA Gent 2-4

KRC Genk - Lommel United (2nd division) 4-0

Olympic Charleroi (Amateur II) - Lokeren OSV 2-5

KMSK Deinze (Amateur I) - Club Brugge KV. 2-0

STVV - Duffel (Amateur II) 3-0 

Dessel Sport (Amateur I) - Excel Moeskroen 0-3

Hoogstraten (Amateur II) - KV Oostende 1-3

Eendracht Aalst (Amateur I) - Charleroi SC 0-2

Standard Luik - Royal Knokke FC (Amateur I) 1-2

KSK Heist (Amateur I) - Zulte Waregem 1-2

KV Mechelen (2nd division) - Antwerp FC 3-1

 

Thursday

RSC Anderlecht - Union SG (2nd division) 0-3

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Update Landry Dimata

He played this year each game and scored already 5 times in 8 games. Not that bad, but (!) he plays horrible for the moment and on this level it's possible he will fall out the first 11 next weeks. If he isn't going to developp more in the game, it's possible he won't rise… . 

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1/8 FINAL BELGIAN CUP

Royal Knokke FC - Union SG

KV Kortrijk - Zulte Waregem

Charleroi SC - KRC Genk

Excel Moeskroen - KV Oostende

KV Mechelen - Lokeren OSV

KMSK Deinze - KAS Eupen

KAA Gent - Beerschot-Wilrijk

STVV - Mandel United

 

@1000dB Because you don't follow the Belgian competition and Belgian Cup not enough, I put this on the topic. Standard Luik, Club Brugge and RSC Anderlecht immediately disqualified. That's a long time ago that these 3 so early were disqualified. The way is open for KRC Genk and KAA Gent to get the automatically ticket to the Europa League. STVV and KV Oostende dangerous underdogs. 

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Yep, I saw. Charleroi SC - KRC Genk is a good-looking draw. Genk's title challenge could get a bit more tricky if they have to deal with the play-offs, Cup Final and maybe/hopefully another deep run in Europe. The double would be great for them. Sounds very much like it's going to be Trossard's year (and maybe Vanzeir to follow in his footsteps a few years later).

Anderlecht's start to the season was great but failing to win against Spartak Trnava (a win instead would have bumped Belgium's coefficient up by one spot on the ranking) and now against Union SG in the cup, fvck me. Brugge OTOH looked threatening against Dortmund (definitely deserved a point). It feels like they're dumping the Cup to focus on the league/getting into the CL again.

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13 hours ago, 1000dB said:

Yep, I saw. Charleroi SC - KRC Genk is a good-looking draw. Genk's title challenge could get a bit more tricky if they have to deal with the play-offs, Cup Final and maybe/hopefully another deep run in Europe. The double would be great for them. Sounds very much like it's going to be Trossard's year (and maybe Vanzeir to follow in his footsteps a few years later).

Anderlecht's start to the season was great but failing to win against Spartak Trnava (a win instead would have bumped Belgium's coefficient up by one spot on the ranking) and now against Union SG in the cup, fvck me. Brugge OTOH looked threatening against Dortmund (definitely deserved a point). It feels like they're dumping the Cup to focus on the league/getting into the CL again.

i'm hopeful, but I'm afraid for the Belgian coëfficiënt thanks to Luc Devroe, Hein Vanhaezebrouck and some players… 

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I'm very happy to see Kabasele and Denayer getting called up again. Vermaelen has looked rusty and I'd defintely take Kabasele and Denayer over Boyata and Ciman. Kabasele has been receiving more and more plaudits, especially this season with Watford's great start, while Denayer has already won over hearts in Lyon (sounds like he's doing very well).

De Bruyne, Vertonghen, Origi, Benteke, J.Lukaku, Januzaj, Dembele and Trossard ... either injured or returning from injury. Quite a lengthy list. Vertonghen should have been subbed off immediately. Instead of a mid October return it's feared that he won't be back soon (might miss the crucial NL games in November as well).

The squad for the NL game against the Swiss and the Low Countries derby:

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Reportedly Ciman wasn't the next one in the pecking order, behind those that were included in the Russia 2018 squad, but he was deemed the better stand-by option (for the injured Kompany and Vermaelen) as Martinez didn't want to put the youngsters in that position.

7 CBs is plenty and Mechele probably won't play against the Swiss or the Dutch. Yet I do like that Martinez creates competition for those spots, seeing our backline is ageing and we're sticking to 3 ATB. Boyata turns 28yo soon (around his 30s for EURO2020) and despite getting carded in his last game I prefer a slightly younger Kabasele. Denayer had a rough game against PSG but that was hardly his fault. Let's hope Kabasele or Denayer are up for it in case they play against Switzerland or Holland. Dendoncker was also being used as a CB at club level but has only played 2 League Cup games (and now Wolves have been knocked out). I prefer that Belgian players don't move to the PL until they're ready to be a nailed-on starter (in Dendoncker's case he isn't even starting as a holding midfielder, which he might have done elsewhere). Hopefully Engels can revive his career (recently turned 24 so it's about time he kicked on). Terreur gave Odoi a mention but he's already 30+ and doesn't look like an improvement on those that have been called up. I'd rather see how Vanheusden, Faes, Bushiri, ... develop. Keep us posted @thorgan lesar

Martinez claimed Castagne was an option on both flanks. In the friendly I'd like Meunier to start on the right and Castagne on the left, i.e. two Luxemburgers on the flanks. With Saelemaekers and Foket there's a bit of depth behind Meunier but on the left we might have to consider Castagne (not the worst idea to take a player to a tournament that can cover both flanks).

 

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2 minutes ago, thorgan lesar said:

@Kev

He will maybe (!) rise a little bit in the next review, but I don't see a toptalent in him. He isn't even playing much right now. 

So keep for a bit longer

Thanks. OK, I'll wait a while and see how he's doing in a few months.

While I'm here, Dante RIGO should rise?

Also, how well do you think Castagne can do? 90+ eventually?

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@Kev

Well Dante Rigo should play more for a rise. He started well in PSV Eindhoven, but unfortunately he had an injury for a couple of weeks. He is fit again, but it's waiting again for some chances. 

Castagne is since this season a player in the first 11 in Bergamo and is doing really well. He will rise (if he stays fit of course) for sure with +1 (little chance +2). 90+ is a bit too much for him, but 90 is possible (if he moves after this season) in 2/3 years. 

 

By the way, for the moment is Denzel Jubitana a must buy if you want to make money. I aspect for the moment a +10/+12 in the next review. 

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A huge scandal is about to break out in Belgium. In the eye of this storm, two agents called Bayat and Veljkovic.

Police have raided the big 5 clubs (Anderlecht, Club Brugge, Standard, Gent, Genk), some of the smaller clubs (Kortrijk, Mechelen, Oostende, Lokeren) and even made raids abroad (France, Luxemburg, Cyprus, Montenegro, Serbia and Macedonia).

The former GM of Anderlecht (Van Holsbeeck), current Club Brugge manager (Leko), Bayat and two referees (Delférière and Vertenten) are in custody.

It's the result of an investigation that started in 2017 about suspect transactions, illegal money laundering, fraud, corruption and fixed matches.

PS in the past I mentionned a couple of times that Mouscron reeks. We'll have to wait but it sounds like they could be implicated.

PPS keep you posted

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The Jamaican FA are adamant that Bailey's future as a full international hasn't been sorted. He won't play for Jamaica ATM. So nothing has changed and, probably, Bailey's dad is still making demands (JFF are in discussions with the player).

https://www.sportsmax.tv/index.php/football/regional/item/20457-jff-rubbishes-report-that-leo-bailey-will-play-for-reggae-boyz

@TMCosta why give my previous post a "haha"? In older posts I've said I'm not in favour of Bailey (possibly) joining Belgium. I said so, repeatedly, since Bailey first claimed he wanted to play for Belgium. Besides it sounded like he wanted to join England, last I heard. England however is off the cards and for Belgium or Germany it depends on the residency rule. In case he kept his residence in Belgium, he'll have wait 22 months before he's be eligible (on his 23rd birthday). I guess one of these international breaks he'll finally join Jamaica.

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