A new risers thread

[TMCosta 1,892]

16 hours ago, ombarcagunners said:

Caio Secco to 80

added to my analisis in Portugal

[ombarcagunners 739]

6 hours ago, TMCosta said:

added to my analisis in Portugal

Marcelo Charles too

[Ersavitzs 121]

What raise do you expect for Mbappe guys? Probably 90? Could get 91?

[Third 566]

6 hours ago, Ersavitzs said:

What raise do you expect for Mbappe guys? Probably 90? Could get 91?

I think he will move up to 90, SM do not usually have big rating increases (in fact it happens to Mbappe in the last review, he moved from 86 to 88 when he probably could have got 89 at least). 

[Monolithic 841]

Uruguay

GK – Guillermo Reyes (31) – 78 (80/82)

GK - Martin Rodriguez (28) - 77 (80) 78

DR/DMR – Hernan Petrik (22) – 75 (80/82) 80

DRL/DMR - Guillermo Varela (24) - 80 (82/83) 83

DL/DML/ML - Lucas Hernandez (25) - 80 (82) 82

DL/DML – Mathias Suarez (21) – 78 (80) 82

DL/DML/ML – Emiliano Colombo (22) – 70 (75) 76

DC – Yeferson Quintana (21) – 75 (80) 78

DMC – Sebastian Rodriguez (25) – 78 (80) 80

DMC/MC – Carlos Benavidez (19) – 78 (80) 80

DMC/MC – Nicolas Fernandez (19) – 70 (76) 77

DMC/MC/AMC – Martin Rabunal (23) – 78 (80/82) 80

MC – Ayrton Cougo (21) – 76 (78/80) 80

MC – Rodrigo Rivero (22) – 76 (80) 78

MC – Santiago Viera (19) – 70 (75) 78

FRLC – Federico Martinez (21) – 77 (78/80) 78

FRLC – Gonzalo Carneiro (22) – 76 (80) 80

FRLC – Nahuel Roldan (19) – 70 (75) 76

FC – Juan Boselli (18) – 70 (75) 75

FC – Maxi Perez (22) – 70 (75) 76

FC – Nicolas Sosa (21) – 70 (75) 77

 

While other players may get bigger rises in the short term, Carlos Benavidez and Federico Martinez are possibly the best prospects. Both have been recently linked with moves to big European clubs.

[Mattheus 42]

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[-JMH- 8,575]

Nice effort with the minor leagues, the problem is the valuations formula is so poor for these leagues i dont think you will see much profit. I have been collecting many risers from the minor leagues over the past year or so the profts from sales are so minor, its hardly worth the effort if they are over 21 years old unfortunately.

[Monolithic 841]

16 minutes ago, -JMH- said:

Nice effort with the minor leagues, the problem is the valuations formula is so poor for these leagues i dont think you will see much profit. I have been collecting many risers from the minor leagues over the past year or so the profts from sales are so minor, its hardly worth the effort if they are over 21 years old unfortunately.

I think it depends on what kind of team you are managing. If you're managing Chelsea or Arsenal, then there is obviously little point. If you are managing Barrow or Maidstone, then there is.

Also, any of the players who might rise to 82 are worth going for as they are guaranteed to at least double in value.

[-JMH- 8,575]

I manage Forest Green Rovers in EC7777, Sheff Weds in EC7046 & RB Salzburg in GC1, particularly the first two i still have to generate funds for new players, in massively competitive gameworlds of 100+ managers.

Yes some of the 78-82 are a good shout but there are very very few of them in the minor leagues that are in the younger age bracket. Ive got about 400 players on shortlist across the world that are due nice increases, ive posted elsewhere across the forum a handful from Paraguay for example.

Ive done this for 7 years now and the risers method is very dead now with the valuation formula in place. I used to write a lot of scouting posts on the old forum, and create massive riser databases. Some readers maybe recall my username, but there arent many if any old faces left here any more.

[Mattheus 42]

 

Le 19/09/2017 à 14:45, Mickbor59 a dit:

 

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[Monolithic 841]

On 21/09/2017 at 0:06 AM, Mickbor59 said:

Keep or sell?

M. Philipp

J.callejon

L.insigne

A.belotti

C.immobile

A.candreva

C.ericksen

D.ceballos

M.hamsik

S. Rudy

J.toljan

A.conti

F.kessie

P.otavio

R.gagliardini

L.kempf

A.romagnoli

D.rugani

J.mere

M.musacchio

G.donnarumma

thank you

Keep them. Too early to properly predict the big 5.

[Monolithic 841]

Colombia

 

GK – Andres Mosquera (26) – 78 (82)

DR/DMR/MR – Juan Zuluaga (24) – 74 (80) 78

DR/DMR/MR – Jair Palacios (27) – 80 (82/83) 82

DR/MR/AMR/FC – Rodin Quinones (22) – 80 (82?)

DL – Jeison Angulo (21) – 78 (80/82) 80

DRL/DMRL – Harrison Canchimbo (27) - 78 (82)

DRL/DMRL – Mateo Puerta (20) – 70 (76)

DC – Marlon Torres (21) – 76 (80) 78

DC – Edisson Restrepo (21) – 70 (76) 76

DC - Eder Castaneda (25) - 78 (80)

DC – Carlos Cuesta (18) – 78 (82) 80

DC – Oscar Cabezas (20) – 70 (76/78) 82

DRC – Dany Rosero (23) – 80 (82) 82

DRC – Eddie Segura (20) - 73 (78) 77

DRC/DMC – Danilo Arboleda (22) - 73 (78/80) 78

DMC – Juan Giraldo (20) - 70 (76) 77

DMC/MRLC/AMR – Sebastian Salazar (21) – 80 (82) 82

MC – Jhon Duque (25) – 80 (82/83) 83

MC – Eduard Atuesta (20) – 76 (80) 78

MC – Mateo Palacios (21) – 70 (76) 75

MC/AMC – Nicolas Benedetti (20) – 80 (82) 82

AMC/FRLC – Harold Mosquera (22) – 75 (82)

AMRL/FRL – Luis Sinisterra (18) – 70 (75) 77

AMRLC – Jeison Lucumi (22) – 78 (80/82) 80

AMRLC/FRL – Yesus Cabrera (27) – 78 (82)

AMRLC/FRL – Juan Mezu (28) – 77 (80) 78 

AMC/FRLC – Diego Valoyes (20) – 77 (80) 78

FRLC – Feiver Mercado (27) – 76 (80)

FRLC – Sebastian Villa (21) – 70 (75) 80

FC – Diego Valdes (26) – 72 (76/78) 76

 

 

Carlos Cuesta certainly looks the best prospect, but he has a transfer fee to match. Plenty of other decent risers however.

[Mattheus 42]

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[Third 566]

2 hours ago, Mickbor59 said:

Andreas Christensen 90???

He need more minutes to reach 90. 

[Monolithic 841]

Turkey

Besiktas

GK – Agosto Fabri (30) – 87 (88) No

DLC – Dusko Tosic (33) – 86 (87) No

MC/AMC - Tolgay Arslan (26) - 86 (87) 87

MC/AMRLC - Anderson Talisca (23) - 88 (89) 89

AMRL/FRLC – Ryan Babel (31) – 87 (88) 88

Galatasaray

DR/DMR/MR – Martin Linnes (26) – 85 (86?) No

DRC – Serdar Aziz (26) – 86 (87) No

DMC/MC/AMC – Tolga Cigerci (25) – 85 (86) 86

AMRL/FRLC – Garry Rodrigues (27) – 85 (87) 86

Istanbul

DRL/DMRL - Junior Caicara (28) - 87 (88) No

DC - Alexandu Epureanu (31) - 86 (87) No

DC/DMC/MC – Joseph Attamah (23) – 80 (85) 83

DMC/MC - Mahmut Tekdemir (30) - 85 (86) No

AMRLC - Irfan Kahveci (22) - 82 (83/84) 83

The Best of the Rest

GK - Berke Ozer (17) - 70 (76?)

GK - Ertac Ozbir (27) - 75 (80) 78

DR/DMR/MRL – Tayfur Bingol (24) – 78 (80/82) 80

DR/DMR – Tiago Lopes (28) – 80 (83) 82

DR/DMR –Issam Chebake (28) – 80 (82) No

DR/DMR – Baris Yardimci (25) – 82 (84) 83

DR/DMC - Santos Auremir (26) - 82 (84) No

DR/DMR/MR – Ridvan Simsek (26) – 78 (80/82) No

DL/DML/ML - Adama Traore (28) - 83 (84/85?) No

DL/DML/ML - Atila Turan (25) - 83 (84/85) No

DR/DMR/MRC – Efecan Karaca (28) – 77 (80) 82

DC – William Troost-Ekong (24) – 80 (83) 83

DC – Mamadou Fofana (19) – 73 (80) 80

DMC/MC - Mikel Agu (24) - 83 (84/85) 84

DMC/MC – Azubuike Okechukwa (20) – 77 (80/82) 80

MC/AMRLC - Deniz Turuc (25) - 85 (86) No

MC/AMC – Abdulkadir Omur (18) – 75 (82) 82

MRL – Halil Akbunar (24) – 78 (82) 80

AMRLC – Emre Kilinc (23) – 80 (83) 82

AMRLC/FRL – Yusuf Yazici (20) – 82 (85/86) 85

AMRL/FRLC - Samuel Eduok (23) - 80 (82) 82

FC - Adis Jahovic (30) - 82 (84) No

 

Besiktas and Galatasaray have both started the season strongly and so should get some reasonable rises. They both have old squads however.

There are relatively few young players elsewhere in the league as well, but Yazici has been linked with some big clubs. Okechukwa and Attamah are decent cheaper options.

Berke Ozer is obviously a fine prospect, but as he is in the 2nd tier it is unclear when he might get a rise.

[hesselink 310]

3 hours ago, Monolithic said:

Turkey

Besiktas

 

Do you know maybe, when to expect Turkish review?

[Monolithic 841]

29 minutes ago, hesselink said:

Do you know maybe, when to expect Turkish review?

I would hope this month or next month. Nothing is certain though...

[Monolithic 841]

Portugal

Benfica

GK – Bruno Varela (22) – 82 (84/85)

DRL/DMC/MC – Andre Almeida (27) – 87 (88)

DL/DML/ML – Alex Grimaldo (22) – 85 (87)

DC – Ruben Dias (20) – 78 (82)

DMC/MC – Filipe Augusto (24) – 83 (84/85)

AMRLC/FRL - Diogo Goncalves (20) - 82 (84?)

Porto

GK - Jose Sa (24) - 83 (85)

DL/DML/ML - Alex Telles (24) - 88 (89?)

DC - Monteiro Felipe (28) - 88 (89?)

AMRL/FRLC – Moussa Marega (26) – 86 (87)

AMRL/FRLC – Vincent Aboubakar (25) – 88 (89)

Sporting

DR/DMR – Cristiano Piccini (25) – 85 (87)

DC - Sebastian Coates (27) - 88 (89?)

DM/MC – Rodrigo Battaglia (26) – 85 (87)

MC/AMC – Bruno Fernandes (23) – 87 (88)

MC/AMRLC – Marcos Acuna (25) – 87 (88)

AMRL/FRL – Daniel Podence (21) – 82 (84)

AMRL/FRL – Gelson Martins (22) - 88 (89?)

FC - Bas Dost (28) - 89 (90?)

Braga

GK - Matheus Magalhaes (25) - 83 (85)

DC - Ricardo Ferreira (25) - 83 (85?)

DC - Raul Silva (28) - 83 (85)

DC - Bruno Viana (22) - 82 (83/84)

DC - Lazar Rosic (24) - 83 (85?)

MC/AMC – Bruno Xadas (19) – 78 (82)

AMRL/FRL – Fernandes Paulinho (25) – 80 (83)

Maritimo

GK – Marcelo Charles (23) – 78 (82)

DR/DMR/MR – Machado Bebeto (27) – 75 (82)

DC - Fabio China (25) - 78 (80/82)

DC/DMC – Pablo Santos (25) – 77 (80/82)

DMC/MC – Jean Cleber (27) – 76 (82)

DMC/MC – Joao Gambao (21) – 77 (82)

FC - Rodrigo Pinho (26) - 78 (82)

Best of the Rest

GK - Ricardo Ferreira (28) - 78 (80/82)

GK – Siqueira Jhonatan (26) – 75 (78/80)

GK – Caio Secco (26) – 73 (78/80)

DL/DML - Nclomande Konan (21) - 80 (82)

DL/DML - Joao Talocha (28) - 80 (82)

DL/DML – Lumor Agbenyenu (21) – 76 (80)

DL/DML/ML - Yuri Ribeiro (21) - 77 (80)

DC – Nuno Tomas (22) – 70 (78)

DC - Raphael Branco (27) - 77 (82)

DC - Stephane Sparagna (22) - 78 (82)

DC – Flavio Ramos (23) – 77 (80)

DMC/MC – Pedro Sa (23) – 76 (80)

DC/DMC – Teixeira Marcao (21) – 78 (80)

MC – Andre Pedrosa (20) – 70 (76/78)

MC/AMC - Chico Geraldes (22) - 80 (82)

MC/AMC – Diogo Rochinha (22) – 75 (78)

MC/AMC – Joao Novais (24) – 78 (82)

MC/AMRLC – Oghenekaro Etebo (21) – 80 (82)

AMRL – Murilo Oliveira (21) – 73 (78/80)

AMRL/FRL – Belloli Raphinha (21) - 82 (84)

AMRLC – Pereira Davidson (27) – 78 (82/83)

AMRLC/FRL - Shoya Nakajima (23) - 78 (82) 82

AMC/FC - Fabricio Messias (27) - 80 (83)

FC – Roque Maurides (23) – 78 (80/82)

FRLC – Oscar Barreto (24) – 77 (80/82) 82

FC - Willian Oliveira (26) - 80 (83)

FC – Goncalo Paciencia (23) – 82 (84/85)

 

Plenty of good risers, particularly for Maritimo.

[dropbox15 26]

Can someone tell me more about the valuation formula or where can I read about it? Thank you!

[Monolithic 841]

13 hours ago, dropbox15 said:

Can someone tell me more about the valuation formula or where can I read about it? Thank you!

What specifically do you want to know?

[dropbox15 26]

6 hours ago, Monolithic said:

What specifically do you want to know?

How value is calculated? What does it depend on? Age, position....

[Monolithic 841]

3 hours ago, dropbox15 said:

How value is calculated? What does it depend on? Age, position....

The financial value is mainly based on rating and age. However, if a young player has been hyped, his value may be much higher. 

The ratings are based on minutes on the pitch and international call-ups.

[dropbox15 26]

2 minutes ago, Monolithic said:

The financial value is mainly based on rating and age. However, if a young player has been hyped, his value may be much higher. 

The ratings are based on minutes on the pitch and international call-ups.

Tnx!

I read in one topic that someone is calculating % of rise based on minutes on pitch. Pure mathematics.

[Monolithic 841]

Just now, dropbox15 said:

Tnx!

I read in one topic that someone is calculating % of rise based on minutes on pitch. Pure mathematics.

That works to some extent, but of course it will also be affected by the team's position in the league, how many goals a striker has scored, hype etc.

[Monolithic 841]

Holland

Feyenoord

DL/DML/ML/AML – Ridgeciano Haps (24) – 85 (86)

DC/DMC – Jan-Arie Van der Heijden (29) – 86 (87?)

DC/DMC - Jerry St. Juste (21) - 84 (85)

DMC/MC – Sofiane Amrabat (21) – 82 (84)

AMRLC/FRL – Steven Berghuis (25) – 87 (88?)

FC – Dylan Vente (18) – 70 (76)

PSV

DRL/DMC – Joshua Brenet (23) – 86 (87)

DRC/DMC – Derrick Luckassen (22) – 83 (84)

DLC/DMC – Jorrit Hendrix (22) – 87 (88?)

DC – Nicolas Isimat-Mirin (25) – 87 (88)

AMRL/FRL – Kenneth Paal (20) – 76 (78/80)

AMRL/FRLC – Hirving Lozano (22) – 87 (88)

AMRL/FRLC – Steven Bergwijn (20) – 83 (85)

AMRLC/FRL – Mauro Junior (18) - 73 (78)

AMC/FC – Sam Lammers (20) – 77 (78/80)

Ajax

GK – Andre Onana (21) – 86 (87)

DLC/DMC – Nick Viergever (28) – 86 (87)

DC – Maximilian Wober (19) – 78 (80/82)

DC/DMC/MC – Matthijks de Ligt (18) – 82 (85/86)

DMC/MC/AMC – Donny Van de Beek (20) – 82 (85/86)

DMC/MC – Frenkie de Jong (20) – 78 (82/83)

AMRL/FRL – David Neres (20) – 80 (84)

AMRL/FRLC – Justin Kluivert (18) – 78 (82)

FRLC – Kasper Dolberg (19) – 85 (86/87)

AZ

GK - Marco Bizot (26) - 83 (85/86)

DRL/DMR/MR - Jonas Svensson (25) - 84 (86)

DL/DMC/MC - Thomas Ouwejan (21) - 76 (83)

DRC - Pantelis Hatzidiakos (20) - 75 (82)

MC/AMC - Guus Til (19) - 76 (83)

MC/AMRLC - Fredrik Midtsjo (24) - 82 (84/85)

AMRLC/FRL - Alireza Jahanbakhsh (24) - 86 (87)

FC - Wout Weghorst (25) - 85 (86)

Best of the Rest

GK – Jorn Brondeel (24) – 75 (78/80)

GK – Mattijs Branderhorst (24) – 70 (78)

DRLC – Sherel Floranus (19) – 76 (80)

DR/DMC – Sean Klaiber (23) – 80 (83)

DRL/DMR/MR/AMR – Kingsley Ehizibue (22) – 80 (83)

DRL/DMR/MR - Tyronne Ebuehi (21) - 80 (82)

DR/DMR/MR – Fankaty Dabo (21) – 80 (82/83)

DL/DML - Kostas Tsimikas (21) - 78 (80)

DL/DML/ML - Lassana Faye (19) - 70 (78)

DL/DML/MLC – Django Warmerdam (22) – 78 (82)

DRC/DMC/MC - Denzel Dumfries (21) - 82 (84)

DRC/DMC - Jurgen Mattheij (24) - 80 (82)

DRC/DMC - Damian Van Bruggen (21) - 77 (80)

DLC – Jeff Hardeveld (22) – 78 (82)

DLC - Jordy De Wijs (22) - 78 (80)

DLC - Kik Pierie (17) - 70 (80)

DLC/MC – Milan Massop (23) – 76 (80/82)

DC – Matt Miazga (22) – 82 (84)

DC – Moreno Rutten (24) – 76 (80)

DC/DMC - Rick Dekker (22) - 80 (82)

DC/DMC - Robin Propper (24) - 80 (82)

DC/DMC – Philippe Sandler (20) – 75 (80)

DMC/MC – Clint Leemans (22) - 78 (82)

DMC/MC/AMC - Yuki Kobayashi (25) - 83 (85)

MC - Deroy Duarte (18) - 70 (76)

MC/AMC – Mounir El Allouchi (23) – 75 (78/80)

MC/AMC – Manu Garcia (19) – 77 (80)

MC/AMC – Jamiro Monteiro Alvarenga (23) – 76 (80)

MC/AMRLC - Morten Thorsby (21) - 80 (83)

MC/AMRLC – Younes Namli (23) – 80 (83)

MC/AMRLC – Juninho Bacuna (20) - 80 (82)

MR/AMR – Arno Verschueren (20) – 78 (80)

AMC – Reuven Niemeijer (22) – 70 (78)

AMRL/FRL – Gyrano Kerk (21) – 76 (82)

AMRLC – Ismail Azzaoui (19) - 78 (80)

AMRLC – Sander Van De Streek (24) - 82 (84)

AMRLC/FRL – Fredrik Jensen (20) – 77 (80)

AMRLC/FRL – Ritsu Doan (19) - 76 (80) 80

AMRLC/FRL – Vito Van Crooij (21) - 78 (80)

AMRLC/FRL - Martin Odegaard (18) - 80 (83) 83

AMRL/FRLC – Cyriel Dessers (22) – 78 (82)

AMRL/FRLC – Melvyn Lorenzen (23) – 77 (80)

AMRL/FRLC – Jinty Caenepeel (21) – 76 (78/80)

AMRLC/FRLC – Rai Vloet (22) - 78 (80)

FC – Piotr Parzyszek (24) – 80 (82?)

FC – Tom Boere (24) – 76 (80)

FC – Ragnar Ache (19) – 70 (76)

FRLC – Bjorn Johnsen (25) – 78 (82)

 

The review of Holland should really be rather conservative due to the abject failure of the teams in Europe, but there are still many young risers.