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Hey guys and girls.

First of all i wanna share that this idea has been brought up by 3 other managers and myself in 2015 and i am pretty sure it's still somewhere on the forum, however i am not sure if the old thread (Now this is what i call a soccer challenge) still is usuable hence i am creating a new one. Ben C (famous for the current Financial Fairplay gw) (I am not sure if he is still active in the game) is the one that helped me working out the first concept in 2015. After that i changed a lot around to make it even more challenging. The new concept was again sent to the 3 managers and Elohim (same as with Ben C..i am not sure if he is still active in the game) helped me to even further evolve this concept in 2015. Now for the fun (and long) part....about the gw itself!!! :P 

The gameworld we were thinking about will have 3 divisions with a minimum amount of 21 youth players at the age of 21 or younger. There is a maximum to the players you can have in your squad which is a total of 36 players, that is including your youth players. So basically you have to buy 15 players at most next to the above mentioned 21 youth players.

There would also be a youth division and youth cup which we will play by organising friendly matches and i (onomanunn) will keep the scores and rankings up to date in the forum. In the youth division matches only players at the age of 21 or younger are allowed to play. In the youth cup the same rules will apply but with as extra rule that 3 players of 22 and above are allowed to play in the team and on the bench.

When a team gets demoted (3 teams per season and per division) a penalty is given to the demoted teams by way of having to sell players above a certain rating and with that the teams that get demoted need to buy lower level players to fill their team again. When we are thinking of the 3 divisions we are thinking about a rating cap of 87 for Divison 3 and a rating cap of 89 for Division 2. Division 1 has no caps at all when it comes to ratings. For example when a team from Division 1 gets demoted the manager must sell all the players with a rating of 90 and above. Another example is when a team gets demoted from Division 2 to Division 3 the manager of the demoted team must sell all players with a rating above 87.

When a team gets demoted they must sell their players above the respective caps for the divisions, by offering the players in the forum by adding a post to the forum thread that will be made for this gw. Every human manager is allowed to make a bid on the players as long as they comply to the rating rules of the division that human manager plays in, with the exception of when a manager achieves certain goals, more on that later. If no team is interested in the players offered, then after 2 days the selling team has to sell their players to an external or unmanaged team before the new season starts. If the team has failed to sell the players above the rating cap for the division they will play in when the new season starts, the respective players that have too high of a rating for that division will not be allowed to play at all!!! And on top of that when the players are not sold they still do count to the maximum squad of 36. So selling will be very important when you get demoted.

Of course there is also a bonus system for the teams that won't get demoted and/or achieve certain goals in a season.

The goals are:

Win the division

Prize: Buy one player of any human manager without getting rejected.

Win the cup

Prize: Buy one player with a rating of maximum 89 of any human manager without getting rejected

Winning the youth division

Prize: Buy one youth player (age must be under 21) of any human manager without getting rejected.

Winning the youth cup

Prize: Buy one youth player (age must be under 21) with a rating of max. 87 of any human manager without getting rejected.

Best attack (most goals scored) of the season

Prize: Buy one attacker of any lower division team with a maximum of the rating cap, the winner in division 3 is allowed to buy one attacker from any division 3 team of course without getting rejected.

Best defence (least goals against) of the season

Prize: Buy one defender of any lower division team with a maximum of the rating cap, the winner in division 3 is allowed to buy one defender from division 3 of course without getting rejected.

Best average goalkeeper of the season

Prize: Buy any second best goalkeeper (ratingwise) from any team in the same division you play in without getting rejected.

Best average defender of the season

Prize: Buy any second best defender (ratingwise) from any team in the same division you play in without getting rejected.

Best average midfielder of the season

Prize: Buy any second best midfielder (ratingwise) from any team in the same division you play in without getting rejected.

Best average attacker of the season

Prize: Buy any second best attacker (ratingwise) from any team in the same division you play in without getting rejected.

Defenders are the following and have the colour orange in your squad: DL/DC/DR/DRLC

Midfielders are the following ad have the colour green in your squad: DML/DMC/DMR/DMRLC/ML/MC/MR/MRLC

Attackers are the following and have the colour blue in your squad: AML/AMC/AMR/AMRLC/FL/FC/FR/FRLC

Teams will start with empty squads and 300 million to spend on their team.

However of course there is also a rule how to spend your money in the first season. Because we wanna start with a fair gw Division 3 is allowed to spent 170 million in the first season, Divison 2 135 million in the first season and Divison 1 100 million in the first season. Mainly this rule is applied to make sure that the lucky ones that start in Division One and Two won't buy just the best team when it comes to ratings but rather buy and build a team that will be able to grow in the future.

Every manager interested must show interest and apply by posting in the forum and every manager will get a club based on random lottery which will take place on a website outside of Soccer Manager. I will put a list of the available clubs on this forum thread after i have at least 10 interested managers.

I know this has been a long read but i hope that you like the idea enough to join this gameworld. Any ideas or changes can be discussed of course till the gameworld starts. Thank you for all the time you took reading this! :D 

If you have interest let me know here on the forum and/or pm onomanunn. At most i will accept 30 managers so the gw won't get too big.

One warning though to everyone that wants to join. I will check your history before i accept you in the gw. If i see that people quickly quit gw's i will not accept you because i don't want other managers to get stuck with teams they had no control over plus i don't want other managers that do want to play the game to feel let down because of someone leaving when they lose for example. It may seems pretty strong words but i rather play with 10 committed managers then with 30 that leave quickly. ;)

Hopefully we will hear from you soon ;)

Daniel (onomanunn in the forums and the games)

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12 hours ago, onomanunn said:

Hey guys and girls.

First of all i wanna share that this idea has been brought up by 3 other managers and myself in 2015 and i am pretty sure it's still somewhere on the forum, however i am not sure if the old thread (Now this is what i call a soccer challenge) still is usuable hence i am creating a new one. Ben C (famous for the current Financial Fairplay gw) (I am not sure if he is still active in the game) is the one that helped me working out the first concept in 2015. After that i changed a lot around to make it even more challenging. The new concept was again sent to the 3 managers and Elohim (same as with Ben C..i am not sure if he is still active in the game) helped me to even further evolve this concept in 2015. Now for the fun (and long) part....about the gw itself!!! :P 

The gameworld we were thinking about will have 3 divisions with a minimum amount of 21 youth players at the age of 21 or younger. There is a maximum to the players you can have in your squad which is a total of 36 players, that is including your youth players. So basically you have to buy 15 players at most next to the above mentioned 21 youth players.

There would also be a youth division and youth cup which we will play by organising friendly matches and i (onomanunn) will keep the scores and rankings up to date in the forum. In the youth division matches only players at the age of 21 or younger are allowed to play. In the youth cup the same rules will apply but with as extra rule that 3 players of 22 and above are allowed to play in the team and on the bench.

When a team gets demoted (3 teams per season and per division) a penalty is given to the demoted teams by way of having to sell players above a certain rating and with that the teams that get demoted need to buy lower level players to fill their team again. When we are thinking of the 3 divisions we are thinking about a rating cap of 87 for Divison 3 and a rating cap of 89 for Division 2. Division 1 has no caps at all when it comes to ratings. For example when a team from Division 1 gets demoted the manager must sell all the players with a rating of 90 and above. Another example is when a team gets demoted from Division 2 to Division 3 the manager of the demoted team must sell all players with a rating above 87.

When a team gets demoted they must sell their players above the respective caps for the divisions, by offering the players in the forum by adding a post to the forum thread that will be made for this gw. Every human manager is allowed to make a bid on the players as long as they comply to the rating rules of the division that human manager plays in, with the exception of when a manager achieves certain goals, more on that later. If no team is interested in the players offered, then after 2 days the selling team has to sell their players to an external or unmanaged team before the new season starts. If the team has failed to sell the players above the rating cap for the division they will play in when the new season starts, the respective players that have too high of a rating for that division will not be allowed to play at all!!! And on top of that when the players are not sold they still do count to the maximum squad of 36. So selling will be very important when you get demoted.

Of course there is also a bonus system for the teams that won't get demoted and/or achieve certain goals in a season.

The goals are:

Win the division

Prize: Buy one player of any human manager without getting rejected.

Win the cup

Prize: Buy one player with a rating of maximum 89 of any human manager without getting rejected

Winning the youth division

Prize: Buy one youth player (age must be under 21) of any human manager without getting rejected.

Winning the youth cup

Prize: Buy one youth player (age must be under 21) with a rating of max. 87 of any human manager without getting rejected.

Best attack (most goals scored) of the season

Prize: Buy one attacker of any lower division team with a maximum of the rating cap, the winner in division 3 is allowed to buy one attacker from any division 3 team of course without getting rejected.

Best defence (least goals against) of the season

Prize: Buy one defender of any lower division team with a maximum of the rating cap, the winner in division 3 is allowed to buy one defender from division 3 of course without getting rejected.

Best average goalkeeper of the season

Prize: Buy any second best goalkeeper (ratingwise) from any team in the same division you play in without getting rejected.

Best average defender of the season

Prize: Buy any second best defender (ratingwise) from any team in the same division you play in without getting rejected.

Best average midfielder of the season

Prize: Buy any second best midfielder (ratingwise) from any team in the same division you play in without getting rejected.

Best average attacker of the season

Prize: Buy any second best attacker (ratingwise) from any team in the same division you play in without getting rejected.

Defenders are the following and have the colour orange in your squad: DL/DC/DR/DRLC

Midfielders are the following ad have the colour green in your squad: DML/DMC/DMR/DMRLC/ML/MC/MR/MRLC

Attackers are the following and have the colour blue in your squad: AML/AMC/AMR/AMRLC/FL/FC/FR/FRLC

Teams will start with empty squads and 300 million to spend on their team.

However of course there is also a rule how to spend your money in the first season. Because we wanna start with a fair gw Division 3 is allowed to spent 170 million in the first season, Divison 2 135 million in the first season and Divison 1 100 million in the first season. Mainly this rule is applied to make sure that the lucky ones that start in Division One and Two won't buy just the best team when it comes to ratings but rather buy and build a team that will be able to grow in the future.

Every manager interested must show interest and apply by posting in the forum and every manager will get a club based on random lottery which will take place on a website outside of Soccer Manager. I will put a list of the available clubs on this forum thread after i have at least 10 interested managers.

I know this has been a long read but i hope that you like the idea enough to join this gameworld. Any ideas or changes can be discussed of course till the gameworld starts. Thank you for all the time you took reading this! :D 

If you have interest let me know here on the forum and/or pm onomanunn. At most i will accept 30 managers so the gw won't get too big.

One warning though to everyone that wants to join. I will check your history before i accept you in the gw. If i see that people quickly quit gw's i will not accept you because i don't want other managers to get stuck with teams they had no control over plus i don't want other managers that do want to play the game to feel let down because of someone leaving when they lose for example. It may seems pretty strong words but i rather play with 10 committed managers then with 30 that leave quickly. ;)

Hopefully we will hear from you soon ;)

Daniel (onomanunn in the forums and the games)

Hi Daniel, defo interested, with you in charge the gw interaction will always be active and it also seems like a really good idea too. Hope we can get another 28 in :P 

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1 hour ago, Tranmere said:

Hi Daniel, defo interested, with you in charge the gw interaction will always be active and it also seems like a really good idea too. Hope we can get another 28 in :P 

 

17 minutes ago, TMCosta said:

Fred dont u have a similar gw? 

@Tranmere aka Fred as far as i am concerned we can do this with 16 managers as well but i am happy you are interested ;)  Would you mind if i put you on a list of interested managers?

 @TMCosta yes Fred runs similar worlds but there are a few differences as in f.e. more prizes, the youth cup and league and instead of just having scouting abilities and buy what you want this has a squad cap. You will also need to build a team of 15 on which you can rely in the normal competition since the rating caps are on a higher level then Fred has in his gw's. But i do agree it's a lot a like most of Fred gw's ;) Like i stated though...this idea has been on the forum since 2015 but i had to quit before i could start it up due to illness :)  After looking around i found the link to the old forum: 

 

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2 hours ago, onomanunn said:

 

@Tranmere aka Fred as far as i am concerned we can do this with 16 managers as well but i am happy you are interested ;)  Would you mind if i put you on a list of interested managers?

 @TMCosta yes Fred runs similar worlds but there are a few differences as in f.e. more prizes, the youth cup and league and instead of just having scouting abilities and buy what you want this has a squad cap. You will also need to build a team of 15 on which you can rely in the normal competition since the rating caps are on a higher level then Fred has in his gw's. But i do agree it's a lot a like most of Fred gw's ;) Like i stated though...this idea has been on the forum since 2015 but i had to quit before i could start it up due to illness :)  After looking around i found the link to the old forum: 

 

4 GWs is my max :/ sory

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3 hours ago, TMCosta said:

4 GWs is my max :/ sory

 

46 minutes ago, Tranmere said:

yes put me down as interested! 

@TMCosta Don't be sorry for having max gw's mate ;) There's never a reason to change what feels right for you :) 

@Tranmere aka Fred :P Ok i will make a new post under this one stating who are interested. It will take some time to fill i presume so bare with me for the time being ;) 

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Managers interested in this gw concept:

01. onomanunn aka Daniel Gramberg

02. Tranmere aka Fred Ziko

03. JAMO-LUFC-15 aka .......(IGN name)

04. FDTV aka ferd dert 

05. d5v1L aka d5v1L

06. who knows...might be you who is reading this :P 

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1 hour ago, JAMO-LUFC-15 said:

I'm interested :)

Thank you @JAMO-LUFC-15 for showing interest. I will put you on the interested list :) Give me some time though to get some more managers in. The forums don't seem very active so i have to pm a few managers in my friend list i expect ;) who knows...might be you who is reading this ;) 

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30 minutes ago, FDTV said:

Hi I'm interested too

Hello @FDTV ;) First of all welcome to the forums (i guess your pretty new to the forums seeing the number of posts under your nickname ;) )! Thank you for showing interest in this GW :D Next to that i will add you to the interested list.

However may i ask what your in game trainer name is so i can add you as a friend? I need to be sure that you are either a new manager that hasn't played much yet or a manager that doesn't leave GW's quickly when they can't win for example. From experience i know a lot of managers that leave a custom GW quickly when they don't get what they want which in turn causes a frustration amongst other managers in the GW plus it will screw up the GW in many ways. Don't take it personal though...i will check any manager i don't know from the game :) 

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3 hours ago, onomanunn said:

Hello @FDTV ;) First of all welcome to the forums (i guess your pretty new to the forums seeing the number of posts under your nickname ;) )! Thank you for showing interest in this GW :D Next to that i will add you to the interested list.

However may i ask what your in game trainer name is so i can add you as a friend? I need to be sure that you are either a new manager that hasn't played much yet or a manager that doesn't leave GW's quickly when they can't win for example. From experience i know a lot of managers that leave a custom GW quickly when they don't get what they want which in turn causes a frustration amongst other managers in the GW plus it will screw up the GW in many ways. Don't take it personal though...i will check any manager i don't know from the game :) 

Yeah this account is new since I can't remember the other account. I'm fert dert in sm. Thanks

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47 minutes ago, FDTV said:

Yeah this account is new since I can't remember the other account. I'm fert dert in sm. Thanks

Ok thank you for responding @FDTV :) When the gw starts i will have a look at your manager history when you apply. From there i will decide if you are allowed to join but i don't expect any issues with allowing you ;) 

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50 minutes ago, onomanunn said:

Ok thank you for responding @FDTV :) When the gw starts i will have a look at your manager history when you apply. From there i will decide if you are allowed to join but i don't expect any issues with allowing you ;) 

Nice one, can't wait 

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7 hours ago, d5v1L said:

@onomanunn Deffo interested..nice idea..can i join? i have the same username in sm

@d5v1L of course you can join :D i will add you to the interested list and when i have enough managers to start the gw i will let you guys know ;) just keep an eye on this forum as well and if there are questions/ideas just let me know. i want this world to be as open as possible for everyone involved.

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