ruggermad Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Re: Help With Deal(s) Thread... Thanks for the replies - I didn't word my question particularly well though so:I have Pogba' date=' Deulofeu, Carvajal and Umtiti, if I were to offer all 4 of them what would people expect in return? Looking for higher rated players rather than young talent.[/quote'] Well I dunno - who's available? What I would say is Pogba, Carvajal and Deulofeu will be very good players in a few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazzer Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Re: Help With Deal(s) Thread... Well I dunno - who's available? What I would say is Pogba' date=' Carvajal and Deulofeu will be very good players in a few years[/quote']Nobody in particular available, but I know a lot of clubs are interested in these players and one club is interested in taking all 4. I am having trouble valueing them though as all are big talents, 3 are playing regular first team football and the other is considered biggest talent in La Masia. Just wondering theoretically if you were to give all 4 players what kind of players you would be expecting to receive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancpoli Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Re: Help With Deal(s) Thread... Nobody in particular available' date=' but I know a lot of clubs are interested in these players and one club is interested in taking all 4. I am having trouble valuing them though as all are big talents, 3 are playing regular first team football and the other is considered biggest talent in La Masia. Just wondering theoretically if you were to give all 4 players what kind of players you would be expecting to receive.[/quote']I find it difficult to conjure up a reasonable response on this one. Unless you were in need of swapping all four players for higher rated players but lesser in quantity, I would keep hold of them until they climb towards 90 and beyond and then use them in less complicated swap deals. Kazzer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazzer Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Re: Help With Deal(s) Thread... I find it difficult to conjure up a reasonable response on this one. Unless you were in need of swapping all four players for higher rated players but lesser in quantity' date=' I would keep hold of them until they climb towards 90 and beyond and then use them in less complicated swap deals.[/quote']I think most people probably are tbf! I have a pool of around 100 youth players, and although those 4 are among the most talented if I could bring in 2 good players for my first team then I could let them leave no problem, just don't know what standard of 2 players would be reasonable to expect in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancpoli Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Re: Help With Deal(s) Thread... I think most people probably are tbf! I have a pool of around 100 youth players' date=' and although those 4 are among the most talented if I could bring in 2 good players for my first team then I could let them leave no problem, just don't know what standard of 2 players would be reasonable to expect in return.[/quote']It all depends on how you view the deals; future potential, short term, long term etc... If your first team squad is pretty decent and not in desperate need of improvements (average of over 90) I'd not even consider swapping Pogba for a 90 rated player right now who only has the potential of reaching 91. What's your first team squad like at present? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyina Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Re: Help With Deal(s) Thread... Thanks for the replies - I didn't word my question particularly well though so:I have Pogba' date=' Deulofeu, Carvajal and Umtiti, if I were to offer all 4 of them what would people expect in return? Looking for higher rated players rather than young talent.[/quote'] Ummm... 1. A high rated player but not too high so that the other manager is willing, someone like Di Maria/Suarez/Moutinho 2. 2 89-90 talents, like Eriksen + El Shawaary, Varane + Lukaku Something like that Kazzer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazzer Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Re: Help With Deal(s) Thread... It all depends on how you view the deals; future potential' date=' short term, long term etc...If your first team squad is pretty decent and not in desperate need of improvements (average of over 90) I'd not even consider swapping Pogba for a 90 rated player right now who only has the potential of reaching 91. What's your first team squad like at present?[/quote'] Pretty much a medium term investment i'm looking at, something which will still be a decent enough deal 1 year from now, but will possibly turn out not so good longer term! First team average is 93: Casillas Arbeloa Mertesacker Pepe Ribery Alonso Rolfes Gotze Robben Ronaldo Neymar Ideally i want a midfielder to replace Rolfes and either a defender or forward. However I think my current expectations may be a bit high, then again 3 months from now the ratings will look different, and every review from then on in likely my four will keep going higher, but i'd like to cash in now with someone who understands the talent and would part with pretty good players in exchange. To give an example i'm looking at something like Fellaini and Godin, but that may be considered too much i really dont know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulliointer93 Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Riferimento: Help With Deal(s) Thread... should I give my Robben+Shaqiri for Cazorla ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazzer Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Re: Riferimento: Help With Deal(s) Thread... should I give my Robben+Shaqiri for Cazorla ?? 100% no way never Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancpoli Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Re: Riferimento: Help With Deal(s) Thread... should I give my Robben+Shaqiri for Cazorla ?? Absolutely not!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancpoli Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Re: Help With Deal(s) Thread... Pretty much a medium term investment i'm looking at' date=' something which will still be a decent enough deal 1 year from now, but will possibly turn out not so good longer term!First team average is 93: Casillas Arbeloa Mertesacker Pepe Ribery Alonso Rolfes Gotze Robben Ronaldo Neymar Ideally i want a midfielder to replace Rolfes and either a defender or forward. However I think my current expectations may be a bit high, then again 3 months from now the ratings will look different, and every review from then on in likely my four will keep going higher, but i'd like to cash in now with someone who understands the talent and would part with pretty good players in exchange. To give an example i'm looking at something like Fellaini and Godin, but that may be considered too much i really dont know![/quote'] Hmmm, I'm stumped! As Hyina has suggested, players of that ilk are probably going to be what you should demand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-JMH- Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Re: Riferimento: Help With Deal(s) Thread... Cavani or Suarez?I've a standard Tottenham and I can get one of the two.. definately Suarez. im gonna throw it out there and say he could reach 95/96/97 at some point in his career as a Liverpool fan i hate to say he will probably achieve it away from us' date=' but this season he has been out of this world. on 29 goals for the season, he could easily hit 40 he just looks like he has goals in him every game... his total professional record reads 202 goals in just 340 games...that is amazing... looking at his stats too, unless a Dutch league fan can clarify this as wrong, i cannot see him ever picking up a injury that has kept him out for a period of time... Reason Season Competition from to Olympic games 12/13 12.07.2012 06.08.2012 suspension through sports court 11/12 Premier League 03.01.2012 01.02.2012 suspension through sports court 11/12 Premier League 29.12.2011 31.12.2011 suspension through sports court 10/11 Eredivisie 24.11.2010 25.01.2011 suspension 10/11 Eredivisie 22.11.2010 05.12.2010 red card suspension 10/11 Eredivisie 02.08.2010 15.08.2010 red card suspension 09/10 WC 2010 03.07.2010 07.07.2010 yellow card suspension 10/11 Europa League 09.12.2010 18.02.2010 yellow card suspension 09/10 KNVB Beker 04.01.2010 28.01.2010 yellow card suspension 08/09 Eredivisie 04.05.2009 11.05.2009 yellow card suspension 08/09 Eredivisie 02.03.2009 08.03.2009 yellow card suspension 08/09 Eredivisie 30.10.2008 03.11.2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KYQS Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Re: Riferimento: Help With Deal(s) Thread... should I give my Robben+Shaqiri for Cazorla ?? Nope.Nah.No.Never.Don't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyina Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Re: Riferimento: Help With Deal(s) Thread... ;2490498']definately Suarez.im gonna throw it out there and say he could reach 95/96/97 at some point in his career as a Liverpool fan i hate to say he will probably achieve it away from us' date=' but this season he has been out of this world. on 29 goals for the season, he could easily hit 40 he just looks like he has goals in him every game... his total professional record reads 202 goals in just 340 games...that is amazing... looking at his stats too, unless a Dutch league fan can clarify this as wrong, i cannot see him ever picking up a injury that has kept him out for a period of time...[/quote'] Good stuff.. He's just one of those who can run before learning to walk properly.. I mean, he misses a stupid number of absolute sitters yet every now and then coming up with a world class strike. As I have always maintained, he needs a strike partner ahead of him so he can drop slightly deeper, not dis-similar to that of Messi However, I'd still go for Cavani as I (personally) feels he's more consistent and takes more chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Re: Help With Deal(s) Thread... Should I sell Nasri for 35m? I have Ronaldo, Rooney, D.Silva, Iniesta and Gotze but should I just cash in on him if I cant P/E him? Will he drop again? Also should I sell Bonucci for cash? I have lots of players at CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KYQS Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Re: Help With Deal(s) Thread... Should I sell Nasri for 35m? I have Ronaldo' date=' Rooney, D.Silva, Iniesta and Gotze but should I just cash in on him if I cant P/E him? Will he drop again? Also should I sell Bonucci for cash? I have lots of players at CB.[/quote'] Sell Nasri for P/E if not sell him for 35m, another drop would be harsh...that is why I hardly doubt he'll drop. Depends you've got to cover Bonucci also who's available John S 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Re: Help With Deal(s) Thread... Sell Nasri for P/E if not sell him for 35m' date=' another drop would be harsh...that is why I hardly doubt he'll drop.Depends you've got to cover Bonucci also who's available[/quote'] I have Ramos, Kompany, Hummels and Mascherano. KYQS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IIR Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Re: Help With Deal(s) Thread... Should I sell Nasri for 35m? I have Ronaldo' date=' Rooney, D.Silva, Iniesta and Gotze but should I just cash in on him if I cant P/E him? Will he drop again? Also should I sell Bonucci for cash? I have lots of players at CB.[/quote'] I personally don't rate him all that highly and he has been a bit-part player for us. I'd cash in on him. If he does move to Monaco as suggested, I see him stuck at 92 or may even drop again. I wouldn't sell Bonucci however especially with Juve having a good season:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan-NI Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Re: Help With Deal(s) Thread... If your desperate for cash then sell them, but cash is so easy to come by I'd just keep hold of them both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyina Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Re: Help With Deal(s) Thread... Should I sell Nasri for 35m? I have Ronaldo' date=' Rooney, D.Silva, Iniesta and Gotze but should I just cash in on him if I cant P/E him? Will he drop again? Also should I sell Bonucci for cash? I have lots of players at CB.[/quote'] Hey John long time no chat btw you're playing Kaka as LB in 10000 BC :p Aas for the deals, selling for money wouldn't be good if the money can't get you soething better, or you have a small stadium. I'd definitely keep Bonucci and maybe Nasri too. Or if you have lots of good players pe them off together for soeone like Reus/Bale/Hummels John S 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyina Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Re: Help With Deal(s) Thread... I have Ramos' date=' Kompany, Hummels and Mascherano.[/quote']Now I'd rather sell Mascherano than Bonucci. KYQS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuel888 Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Riferimento: Re: Help With Deal(s) Thread... Should I sell Nasri for 35m? I have Ronaldo' date=' Rooney, D.Silva, Iniesta and Gotze but should I just cash in on him if I cant P/E him? Will he drop again? Also should I sell Bonucci for cash? I have lots of players at CB.[/quote'] Watching your situation I would sell Nasri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KYQS Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Re: Help With Deal(s) Thread... I have Ramos' date=' Kompany, Hummels and Mascherano.[/quote']Keep Bonucci....Then maybe see if you could get a valuable price for Mascherano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBlack Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Re: Help With Deal(s) Thread... Gold championship, I can get Falcao by giving either El Shaaraway & Oscar or El Shaaraway & Lamela. Anybody do either of these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preppens Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Re: Help With Deal(s) Thread... Gold championship' date=' I can get Falcao by giving either El Shaaraway & Oscar or El Shaaraway & Lamela. Anybody do either of these?[/quote']Yeah do Lamela + Shaarawy mate, it's a pretty sweet deal. Although the hype on Falcao is finally starting to settle a little, he's still a rock solid 94 striker with the potential to go a little higher rating wise. And I'm pretty confident neither of the two you're giving will get to that rating, ever.. LBlack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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