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How the final EURO 2020 draw looks now (of course November's results might cause a few changes):

A:
Italy
Poland/Turkey/Croatia/France
Czechia/Portugal/Switzerland/Austria/Slovakia
Finland/Sweden

B:
Belgium
Denmark
Russia
Finland/Sweden


C
Netherlands
Poland/Turkey/Croatia/France
Czechia/Portugal/Switzerland/Austria/Slovakia
League A or League D play-off winner

D
England
Poland/Turkey/Croatia/France
Czechia/Portugal/Switzerland/Austria/Slovakia
League C play-off winner

E:
Spain
Poland/Turkey/Croatia/France
Czechia/Portugal/Switzerland/Austria/Slovakia
League B play-off winner

F:
Ukraine
Germany
Czechia/Portugal/Switzerland/Austria/Slovakia
League A or League D play-off winner

 

Belgium would automatically go to group B as top seeds. Russia and Denmark are both pot 2 teams but they have been paired and must go into this group. Sweden could be the pot 4 team. Probably the strongest team you can get from that pot, especially in this group as they'll be playing close to home. Both Russia and Denmark play their games against Belgium at home and a draw will decide if Belgium plays two group games in Russia or Denmark. Better to win this group because the runners-up have to travel excessively to go on a deep run (quarters in Baku with not much rest before the semis in London).

I'd rather avoid playing Russia again at the EUROs. Not unlikely Russia would have to become group winners in the qualis for that to be the case. Belgium being drawn into another group, even one that contains one of the top favourites, has the added benefit you wouldn't have to face that team again unless you both reach the final for example.

My desired group would be Belgium + two of France, Holland, Spain, Germany, England, Portugal, Croatia, ... (not Italy because it's the worst group to be drawn into) + the League D play-off winner. With a League D team in the group failing to advance to the KO stage should be impossible. Great games, already in the group stage, and better chances at a deep run.

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How the final EURO 2020 draw looks now (of course November's results might cause a few changes):

Group A
Italy
Poland/Turkey/Croatia/France
Czech Rep./Portugal/Switzerland/Austria/Slovakia
Finland/Sweden

Group B
Belgium
Denmark
Russia
Finland/Sweden


Group C
Netherlands
Poland/Turkey/Croatia/France
Czech Rep./Portugal/Switzerland/Austria/Slovakia
League A or League D play-off winner

Group D
England
Poland/Turkey/Croatia/France
Czech Rep./Portugal/Switzerland/Austria/Slovakia
League C play-off winner

Group E
Spain
Poland/Turkey/Croatia/France
Czech Rep./Portugal/Switzerland/Austria/Slovakia
League B play-off winner

Group F
Ukraine
Germany
Czech Rep./Portugal/Switzerland/Austria/Slovakia
League A or League D play-off winner

 

Belgium would automatically go to group B as top seeds. Russia and Denmark are both pot 2 teams but they have been paired and must go into this group. Sweden could be the pot 4 team. Probably the strongest team you can get from that pot, especially in this group as they'll be playing close to home. Both Russia and Denmark play their games against Belgium at home and a draw will decide if Belgium plays two group games in Russia or Denmark. Better to win this group because the runners-up have to travel excessively to go on a deep run (quarters in Baku with not much rest before the semis in London).

I'd rather avoid playing Russia again at the EUROs. Not unlikely Russia would have to become group winners in the qualis for that to be the case. Belgium being drawn into another group, even one that contains one of the top favourites, has the added benefit you wouldn't have to face that team again unless you both reach the final for example.

My desired group would be Belgium + two of France, Holland, Spain, Germany, England, Portugal, Croatia, ... (not Italy because it's the worst group to be drawn into) + the League D play-off winner. With a League D team in the group failing to advance to the KO stage should be impossible. Great games, already in the group stage, and better chances at a deep run.

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On 10/16/2019 at 7:57 PM, 1000dB said:

How the final EURO 2020 draw looks now (of course November's results might cause a few changes):

Group A
Italy
Poland/Turkey/Croatia/France
Czech Rep./Portugal/Switzerland/Austria/Slovakia
Finland/Sweden

Group B
Belgium
Denmark
Russia
Finland/Sweden


Group C
Netherlands
Poland/Turkey/Croatia/France
Czech Rep./Portugal/Switzerland/Austria/Slovakia
League A or League D play-off winner

Group D
England
Poland/Turkey/Croatia/France
Czech Rep./Portugal/Switzerland/Austria/Slovakia
League C play-off winner

Group E
Spain
Poland/Turkey/Croatia/France
Czech Rep./Portugal/Switzerland/Austria/Slovakia
League B play-off winner

Group F
Ukraine
Germany
Czech Rep./Portugal/Switzerland/Austria/Slovakia
League A or League D play-off winner

 

Belgium would automatically go to group B as top seeds. Russia and Denmark are both pot 2 teams but they have been paired and must go into this group. Sweden could be the pot 4 team. Probably the strongest team you can get from that pot, especially in this group as they'll be playing close to home. Both Russia and Denmark play their games against Belgium at home and a draw will decide if Belgium plays two group games in Russia or Denmark. Better to win this group because the runners-up have to travel excessively to go on a deep run (quarters in Baku with not much rest before the semis in London).

I'd rather avoid playing Russia again at the EUROs. Not unlikely Russia would have to become group winners in the qualis for that to be the case. Belgium being drawn into another group, even one that contains one of the top favourites, has the added benefit you wouldn't have to face that team again unless you both reach the final for example.

My desired group would be Belgium + two of France, Holland, Spain, Germany, England, Portugal, Croatia, ... (not Italy because it's the worst group to be drawn into) + the League D play-off winner. With a League D team in the group failing to advance to the KO stage should be impossible. Great games, already in the group stage, and better chances at a deep run.

I'm okay with this group actually, but if I have to chose I go for Spain their group. 

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Victor Osimhen is doing great at Lille OSC.

Takehiro Tomiyasu, Stefano Denswil, Moussa Djenepo, Moraes Wesley and Joseph Aidoo started well by their clubs. Léandro Trossard also started well, but is injured now. 

Sebastiaan Bornauw needs to adapt more, but is first choice right now.  

Ruslan Malinovskiy needs to adapt more in Atalanta. @zsp2

Razvan Marin has it difficult in Ajax Amsterdam.

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1. Club Brugge KV
Club Brugge got off to a good start in the 2019-2020 season. Philippe Clement is a great trainer for this team. There are a lot of outstanding players in the team, but if we look at who makes the most impression across the board, I will come to Simon Deli. The 27-year-old from Ivory Coast has found Club Brugge at Sparta Prague. Percy Tau and Krépin Diatta prove themselves, but need even more time to find their real top level. Emmanuel Dennis and Clinton Mata are 2 players who have been playing at Club Brugge for a while, but have taken a step forward this year. Hans Vanaken and Ruud Vormer are the heart of this team. David Okereke started his season very well, but is in a dip. As a team they play pretty well, but you can see that this team is still growing.

2. Standard De Liège
Standard De Liège started nicely, but is, as so often, irregular. If they play well, they play really well. If things are not going well, then it is fairly weak. This team mainly focused on broadening the selection in quality. They shopped at Excel Mouscron (Vojvoda, Amallah, Dussenne), Waasland-Beveren (Boljevic) and KV Kortrijk (Avenatti). Avenatti was actually from Bologna, but Standard found him at KV Kortrijk. Selim Amallah is one of the surprises at the start of this season. Samuel Bastien has finally taken the next step and is a certitude. Maxime Lestienne is back again. Arnaud Bodart finally gets the full chance at Standard and makes a great impression. It is up to Michel Preud'homme to find energy in his team for every match.

3. KAA Ghent
A team that has got off to a strong start. The last 2 games were a bit trickier, but they make a great impression with their 4-4-2 diamond system. KAA Ghent their weakness was defense last year. They made the defence better. Michael Ngadeu was taken from Slavia Praha. Positionally it can be better, but together with the reborn Igor Plastun makes them a good experienced defense. Elisha Owusu and Jonathan David are both the revelations of the team. Vadis Odjidja that also shows itself to be important and the reborn Sven Kums. Roman Yaremchuk may miss easy goals, but he makes them easier this season. We now have to wait and see if KAA Ghent can continue to play this level.

4. Royal Antwerp
They are looking for the next step that this team can take. That is currently a bit lost, I think personally. Antwerp is mainly known for their defense. This year, Royal Antwerp is trying a bit more offensive with new players such as Koji Miyoshi, Kevin Mirallas and Manuel Benson. They play fairly well at the moment, but currently do not excel. We have to wait for the growth of Royal Antwerp to become better offensive without losing their defensive qualities.

However, there are some individual prestations. Aurelio Buta - from Portugal @TMCosta - is a real added value as a right defender. Dieumerci Mbokani and Lior Refaelov are 2 experienced players of the team with impressive statistics this season. Didier Lamkel Zé, on the other hand, is growing and is quite important. If he had the right mentality, he could aim for a team in a Big Five country next season. Faris Haroun is again the key in midfield.

5. KV Mechelen
This team mainly excels in collectivity. Hardly any players who really stand out. The team is doing well. I personally think that they have too few individual stars, which will make it difficult in the top matches and when quite a lot has already been played. Onur Kaya shows that he still has the level for the first class. Danté Vanzeir scored his goals. Nikola Storm is back again. He did not break through at Zulte Waregem and Club Brugge. He shows that he is effectively a player who has enough qualities for the first class.

6. KRC Genk
This is another team under construction. The statics also show it: the youngest team in the Champions League this year. Benjamin Nygren, Stephen Odey, Ianis Hagi and Carlos Cuesta are the 4 young acquisitions. With Patrik Hrošovský and Paul Onuachu, they brought in players with experience. One does not bring his experience enough on the team (Hrošovský) and the other still has to adapt (Onuachu). Ally Samatta continues to score the goals for KRC Genk. Sander Berge did not start so well, but in recent weeks he finds his level again. Bongonda has yet to take the next step in his game to make KRC Genk better. With the coach Felice Mazzu, unfortunately, the game is played more conservatively.

Tomorrow nr.7 ---> nr.12 :)

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14 hours ago, thorgan lesar said:

Left Jupiler Pro League in summer '19

Victor Osimhen is doing great at Lille OSC.

Takehiro Tomiyasu, Stefano Denswil, Moussa Djenepo, Moraes Wesley and Joseph Aidoo started well by their clubs. Léandro Trossard also started well, but is injured now. 

Sebastiaan Bornauw needs to adapt more, but is first choice right now.  

Ruslan Malinovskiy needs to adapt more in Atalanta. @zsp2

Razvan Marin has it difficult in Ajax Amsterdam.

Malinovski is playing well, he has had the possibility to score in few occasions, also against Shakhtar.

But he has the potentiality to be great, when he adapt more he could be a starter, everybody is happy about him. Now with 7 matches in 23 games he will have the possibility to play more and show his value.

Some supporter has already given him the nickname of "Colonnello" (Colonel)

 

Tomiyasu got injuried in the last match for Japan, is out for 40 days

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2 hours ago, zsp2 said:

Malinovski is playing well, he has had the possibility to score in few occasions, also against Shakhtar.

But he has the potentiality to be great, when he adapt more he could be a starter, everybody is happy about him. Now with 7 matches in 23 games he will have the possibility to play more and show his value.

Some supporter has already given him the nickname of "Colonnello" (Colonel)

 

Tomiyasu got injuried in the last match for Japan, is out for 40 days

What's the reason Castagne isn't playing much lately in Atalanta ?

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1 hour ago, thorgan lesar said:

What's the reason Castagne isn't playing much lately in Atalanta ?

I try to analyse the situation:

 

Castagne had an injury at the beginning of August and he came back in the middle of september, so he stayed on the bench the first 2 matches because he wasn't fit.

He played the first time the 22/09 against Fiorentina, scoring in the last second. From that moment he played 4 matches on 5.

 

Atalanta has 3 starters for 2 spots: Hateboer, Castagne and Gosens, they are all at the same levels; Gasperini loves to rotate his players and decide according to the opponents and how the players are fit.

In the first part of last year the best was Hateboer, from december to february was Castagne, then again Hateboer.

Right now the best is Gosens (3 goals 1 assist in 6 matches in Serie A).

 

Is always difficult say who plays among them. I guess Castagne won't play tomorrow because the other 2 hasn't been called by their national teams, and he will play against Manchester City.

 

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7. Zulte Waregem
They did some great deals this summer with Cyle Larin, Saïdo Berahino and Dimitri Oberlin. Franck Dury - head coach - has found a balance in his team. Last season it was Théo Bongonda and Hamdi Harbaoui. This season Zulte Waregem is growing collectively and individually. At the moment they are even Play-Off 1 - candidate in my opinion.

The youngster Ewoud Pletinckx is one of the least discussed players, but he makes a strong impression. The attack by Zulte Waregem with Saïdo Berahino and Cyle Larin has enough qualities. Gideon Mensah - hired from RB Salzburg - only has 2 games to his name, but is already making an impression. Luka Zarandia, Abdoulaye Sissako and Henrik Bjørdal are 3 players who also do well, but do not excel.

8. Excel Mouscron
This team has taken new steps to become a stable first class team. A revelation last season, now again. It is still too early to say that they are a PO1 candidate, but you certainly cannot ignore the good start. This team is especially good at the organization and is quite strong on the defensive. Offensively, I still miss something at Excel Mouscron, which makes it difficult to make it for PO1.

Nathan De Medina, Kevin Wimmer and ( @TMCostaDiogo Queiros are 3 defensive players who currently excel. Frank Boya sometimes has his strong matches, sometimes his weak matches. He is still a little too irregular, but is an important added value for his team. Aleix Garcia also shows himself, but does not excel. Jean Butez stayed with the team again, so they not only have a good defense but also a good goalie. Bernd Hollerbach - head coach - plays out for organization and experience. Deni Hočko is such a person. The Montenegrin is also quite important in the sense of leadership.

9. Charleroi SC
A team that has been in the Belgian subtop for years. Behind this team is Mehdi Bayat, who does a good job. This year they again have some players who are doing well, but I personally am not convinced about their ability to dominate a match. In my eyes, midfield is not turning well enough to play for Play-Off 1. I miss a bit of freshness and energy in the team.

Modou Diagne and Shamar Nicholson are 2 new players that make Charleroi better. Great job of scouting to add both players to the core of this squad. Marco Ilaimaharitra is the defensive midfielder who plays well in midfield. Massimo Bruno, however, finds his better level again. It is up to Karim Belhocine - the head coach - to get the wingers more in the match and to get enough freshness / energy in the team. If this happens, they will run until the end of the season for the top 6.

10. KV Kortrijk
A team with players who already have many years of experience in this competition. Kagelmacher, Lepoint, D'Haene, Mboyo, De Sart, Van Der Bruggen and newcomer Eric Ocansey. The balance in this team is there, but personally I think the team is not going all the way in their games. That is mainly Yves Vanderhaeghe's fault. This team has the options to compete for PO1. However, I personally think that I am missing something on the wing-position. A player with an action is still missed.

Fraser Hornby is a good attacker who can make the team run better. The American Brendan Hines-Ike and the Uruguyuaan Gary Kagelmacher are both the defending central duo that still stands as a house. Karel D'Haene, on the other hand, is a player with a great assist in his feet and yet important for the team.

11. KV Oostende
They started their season well, but they had immediately the teams in form as opponents and the good teams against them. This brings them to 11th place. The team is running, but needs their better players. Michiel Jonckheere does not do that badly, but would normally not be in the base. Their level from their first games repeating week by week is difficult, but it is up to Kåre Ingebrigtsen to keep that focus and freshness in the team. All in all it works pretty well.

Ante Palaversa - injured for a while - has the volume and the qualities to lift this team to a higher level. Andrew Hjulsager - also injured for a while - has that surplus in the attack. The youngsters Robbie D'Haese and Jelle Bataille have taken the next step and are doing more than nicely. Fashion Jr. Sakala has also taken the next step compared to last season. Provided that Hjulsager and Palaversa are back, I expect that KV Oostende can finish in the top 10.

12. STVV
A work in progress. It will be one that needs its time. STVV experienced a strong season last season with outstanding players such as Takehiro Tomiyasu and Daichi Kamada. This season, the acquisitions do not immediately stand out in the beginning. They went again to get players in Japan and a Japanese who played at a decent level at HSV. They also mooier for Brazilian footballers plus one American and two more Argentines. STVV went to the market where there is a lot of talent, but it is not yet successful. The adjustment of all these players is taking step by step.

Jordan Botaka is one of the experienced players that STVV can always count on. Yohann Boli - now also international at Côte D'Ivoire - is another important factor, because the goals are mainly from him. You see the talent that Yuma Suzuki has, but it lacks a bit of instinct. Alexandre De Bruyn is a surprisingly important factor. Santiago Colombatto has not played too much yet, but it is gradually becoming better and better.

 

Nr. 13 --> Nr. 16 tomorrow

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13. RSC Anderlecht
This team did not have any fun last years. The mismanagement of the previous owners and a new chairman who underestimated it brings Anderlecht to this day. There are some players - including Yari Verschaeren - who do show themselves, but this team is not constantly performing. They want to stand for offensive and dominant football, but there is not enough quality for this in my opinion at the moment. The sportive manager Michael Verscheuren makes a very pretentious impression at a time when things are not going well.

There are only a few who can make an impression in these difficult times. Nacer Chadli shows that he still has a lot of qualities. Yari Verschaeren and Albert Sambi Lokonga show that they are the future of Belgium. Vincent Kompany is the best central defender there is, but unfortunately he is repeatedly injured. They don't perform collectively enough.

14. KAS Eupen
This year there are 3 teams that have to play against relegation, of which KAS Eupen is one. The team mainly lacks scoring ability. It has a broad core with effective quality, but it is difficult for them to adapt in Belgium. Beñat San José is a coach with a lot of experience in many different countries. The team is considerable in its collective. It still misses players with an action.

Danjiel Milicevic has not played very much yet, but he is becoming important for the team. Omid Ebrahimi has not played very much yet, but is also improving week by week. Jon Bautista scored some important goals. Adalberto Peñaranda cannot make good statisticus yet, but he does endanger the opponent.

15. Waasland-Beveren
This team will have to fight against relegation. Generally, collectively and individually, this Waasland-Beveren does not have much in store. The new coach Arnauld Mercier can turn this into a collective story, but for how long? This team equipped with many Belgian youngsters who are not good enough for the top teams. It lacks experienced players with leadership.

Nordin Jackers is currently the only young person who really impresses. He will be another important factor this season. Aleksandar Vukotic is currently not reaching his level of last season, but he is and remains an important factor. Beni Badibanga does not make an unforgettable impression, but still cannot make a full impact on this team.

16. Cercle Brugge
This team has many loaneers throughout Ligue 1, including quite a few AS Monaco players. Godfred Donsah is also a player who did not do badly in the Serie A. However, they do not have their heads at Cercle Brugge. This must change under the new coach Bernd Storck. This trainer made a big impression last season at Excel Mouscron. He left the team to take on another challenge. There is more quality than the position in the rankings suggests.

Lyle Foster is a young South African with some potential. He can't put his stamp enough yet, but he is doing pretty well. Rominigue Kouamé N'Guessan is the only player who performs consistently. Kouadio-Yves Dabila is doing pretty well too.

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We're 11 games away

This is how it looks at the moment:

 

1. Club Brugge KV          26

2. Standard De Liège     23

3. KAA Gent                     20

4. KV Mechelen              20

5. Royal Antwerp            17

6. KRC Genk                    16

 

7. Zulte Waregem          16

8. Excel Moeskroen       16

9. Charleroi SC                15

10. KV Kortrijk                 14

11. RSC Anderlecht        12

12. KV Oostende             11

13. STVV                          11

14. KAS Eupen                  9

15. Waasland-Beveren     7

 

16. Cercle Brugge            3

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Champions League

Club Brugge - Paris Saint-Germain 0-5

0-1 Icardi

0-2 Mbappé

0-3 Icardi

0-4 Mbappé

0-5 Mbappé

Mignolet; Mata, Mechele, Deli; Diatta, Rits, De Ketelaere (David Okereke 61'), Vanaken, Sobol (Éder Balanta 80'); Dennis (Loïs Openda 76') , Tau

Mbappé was outstanding today :o

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Yesterday for Malinovski scored the first goal for Atalanta, on penalty kick, unluckily hasn't been enough but good performance for him, without Zapata he will play a lot in Gomez's posizion.

As I thought Castagne played yesterday, not a bad match he had the opportunity to score after 10 minutes but he failed, then he played a defensive match, without particular errors, but on his side there were Mendy and Sterling, that was literally on fire: scored 3 times, 1 assist and won a penalty kick.

Congratulation to Manchester City for the amazing match and to Atalanta that did his best, playing without fear at Etihad Stadium

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6 hours ago, zsp2 said:

Yesterday for Malinovski scored the first goal for Atalanta, on penalty kick, unluckily hasn't been enough but good performance for him, without Zapata he will play a lot in Gomez's posizion.

As I thought Castagne played yesterday, not a bad match he had the opportunity to score after 10 minutes but he failed, then he played a defensive match, without particular errors, but on his side there were Mendy and Sterling, that was literally on fire: scored 3 times, 1 assist and won a penalty kick.

Congratulation to Manchester City for the amazing match and to Atalanta that did his best, playing without fear at Etihad Stadium

Not an easy campaign for Atalanta in CL apparently.. 

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Champions League

KRC Genk - Liverpool FC 1-4

0-1 Oxlade-Chamberlain

0-2 Oxlade-Chamberlain 

0-3 Mané

0-4 Salah

1-4 Stephen Odey 

Coucke; Mæhle, Cuesta, Lucumi, Uronen; Berge, Heynen; Ito (Ianis Hagi 87'), Bongonda (Dieumerci Ndongola 66'); Onuachu (Stephen Odey 81'), Samatta

@1000dB yesterday was Mbappé outstanding. Today a bit unlucky

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16 hours ago, thorgan lesar said:

Not an easy campaign for Atalanta in CL apparently.. 

I know, Atalanta is paying too much his lack of experience, from the statistics it seems a disastrous campaign, when we failed only a match, against Dinamo Zagreb. I hope that we can win a match in San Siro. Round of 16 in CL is almost impossible, and also EL is difficult.

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