jaybee 763 Posted September 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 We've seen a couple of rises in rating already with Caqueret getting +3 and Faivre getting +2. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jaybee 763 Posted September 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 19 hours ago, jaybee said: We've seen a couple of rises in rating already with Caqueret getting +3 and Faivre getting +2. Another riser today as Gouiri gets a +4. I have also updated opening post to cover the weekend games and included players who made their first appearance of the season. It's three games in so far but will do a wee update in a couple weeks time for players that are getting good minutes. I've been keeping a spreadsheet to take note. Id rather be in SW19 and Lowco 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kieran_S91 5,989 Posted September 15, 2020 Report Share Posted September 15, 2020 Cherki and Bard both had decent games this evening, Cherki won Lyon a penalty and managed to get grandpa Hilton sent off on his 43rd birthday 😞 I can’t believe Cherki is still only 16 he actually looked Lyon’s best threat in the final 10 minutes. France’s ability to keep producing talent is really something to admire, the Cherki/Camavinga generation is going to be unbelievable. jaybee and Fon.leman 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jaybee 763 Posted September 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, Kierans91 said: Cherki and Bard both had decent games this evening, Cherki won Lyon a penalty and managed to get grandpa Hilton sent off on his 43rd birthday 😞 I can’t believe Cherki is still only 16 he actually looked Lyon’s best threat in the final 10 minutes. France’s ability to keep producing talent is really something to admire, the Cherki/Camavinga generation is going to be unbelievable. I was thinking I was alone on this thread. You beat me to it Kieran with that post. Yeah, they've both been getting game time from the bench so far this season. I'd expect Cherki will end up a regular by end of the season. Caqueret has played all 270 minutes so far in the league. Potential to hit 88 by end of the season I think. Kieran_S91 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kieran_S91 5,989 Posted September 15, 2020 Report Share Posted September 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, jaybee said: I was thinking I was alone on this thread. You beat me to it Kieran with that post. Yeah, they've both been getting game time from the bench so far this season. I'd expect Cherki will end up a regular by end of the season. Caqueret has played all 270 minutes so far in the league. Potential to hit 88 by end of the season I think. Possible that Cherki could be a starter especially if Lyon don’t replace Aouar, Depay and Traore* but I do think Lyon will try to bring him in gradually similar to what they are doing now. I would imagine they would look to bring in some replacements when the 3 leave as well. Can’t always expect a 16 year old to perform week in week out it would be a risk. Caqueret is one of the first names on the team sheet in my opinion, should be high 80s come the final review for 20/21. As for Montpellier 6 points from their opening 3 games is a huge success considering their opponents 🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jaybee 763 Posted September 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2020 18 minutes ago, Kierans91 said: Possible that Cherki could be a starter especially if Lyon don’t replace Aouar, Depay and Traore* but I do think Lyon will try to bring him in gradually similar to what they are doing now. I would imagine they would look to bring in some replacements when the 3 leave as well. Can’t always expect a 16 year old to perform week in week out it would be a risk. Caqueret is one of the first names on the team sheet in my opinion, should be high 80s come the final review for 20/21. As for Montpellier 6 points from their opening 3 games is a huge success considering their opponents 🙂 Since I can remember they've always been good at giving youth a chance. Remember Mbappe at Monaco broke through at 17 so you never know. The league looks strange just now with PSG down at the bottom. They've a relegation clash with Metz tomorrow ha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jaybee 763 Posted September 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 First league win for PSG at third attempt tonight. Things to note of interest are young left back Bakker started the game for his second appearance in three games. I'd day he's with picking up as he isn't expensive. Fadiga made his debut off the bench. He's a midfielder who I don't currently see on the database. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lowco 118 Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 On 8/23/2020 at 2:36 PM, jaybee said: I thought I'd start this thread in terms of players to watch in Ligue 1 this season. It is mainly under 21 players or low rated players who are playing and could get reasonable rises. I will aim to update after each game week. I will only add players once they have actually played this season. Feel free to suggest other players who are over the age of 21 but low rated. The promoted teams like Lorient and Lens have players to watch for such as La Fee and Medina in particular who are both highly thought of. Here are some players involved this weekend and their current ratings. Gouiri one in particular to watch as was rated highly when came through at Lyon. He's now got a move to Nice and has scored twice on his first league game for them. Ebosse (Angers) 78 Cho (Angers) 70 Zerkane (Bordeaux) 70 Maja (Bordeaux) 83 Chardonnet (Brest) 80 (25y) Diallo (Brest) 84 Faivre (Brest) 75 (22) +2 to 77 Sept 20 Mbock (Brest) 73 Nounchil (Dijon) not on DB Ebimbe (PSG loan to Dijon) 80 Dobre (Dijon) 70 Chouiar (Dijon) 85 Philippe (Dijon) not on DB Younoussa (Dijon) 70 Bade (Lens) 73 Medina (Lens) 82 Cheick Doucoure (Lens) 82 Ganago (Lens) 85 Boura (Lens) 70 Botman (Lille) 83 Bradaric (Lille) 85 Soumare (Lille) 87 David (Lille) 88 Weah (Lille) 82 Mendes (Lorient) 76 (22y) La Fee (Lorient) 78 Boisgard (Lorient) 80 (23y) Diarra (Lorient) 80 Chalobah (Lorient on loan from Chelsea) 82 Bard (Lyon) 73 Caqueret (Lyon) 80 +3 to 83 Sept 20 Cherki (Lyon) 78 Balerdi (Marseille) 80 Kamara (Marseille) 88 Ake (Marseille) 76 Gueye (Marseille) 82 Sabaly (Metz) 73 Yade (Metz) 73 Niane (Metz) 83 Badiashile (Monaco) 85 Diop (Monaco) 80 Tchouameni (Monaco) 83 Y Fofana (Monaco) 85 Geubbels (Monaco) 75 Pellegri (Monaco) 80 Chotard (Montpellier) 82 Benchama (Montpellier) not on DB Ndilu (Nantes) 76 Lafont (Nantes) 88 Chirivella (Nantes) 82 (23y) Louza (Nantes) 85 Muani (Nantes) 75 Mendy (Nantes) 70 Gouiri (Nice) 76 +4 to 80 Sept 20 Lotomba (Nice) 83 Thuram (Nice) 80 Slyvestre (Nice) 76 Trouillet (Nice) 70 Bambu (Nice) 80 (22y) Pelmard (Nice) 80 Ndoye (Nice) 78 Guessand (Nice) not on DB Denkey (Nimes) 82 Benrahou (Nimes loan from Bordeaux) 82 Bulka (PSG) 76 Bakker (PSG) 76 Fadiga (PSG) not on DB Ruiz-Atil (PSG) 70 Muinga (PSG) 70 Maresic (Reims) 83 Hornby (Reims) 77 Toure(Reims) 80 Boey (Rennes) 76 Soppy (Rennes) 70 Camavinga (Rennes) 86 Gboho(Rennes) 77 W Fofana (St Etienne) 82 Macon (St Etienne) 77 Aouchiche (St Etienne) 73 Rivera (St Etienne) 73 Abi (St Etienne) 80 Youssouf (St Etienne) 83 Douath (St Etienne) not on DB Simakan (Strasbourg) 82 who's a must buy for you? Hrodulf and Soccahappy 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jaybee 763 Posted September 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 7 hours ago, Lowco said: who's a must buy for you? The players that I would say are must buys are as follows. Cho (Angers) - not many 16 year olds make their debut for first team Caqueret and Cherki are must buys. Caqueret looks like he is going to be a regular in first team and Cherki is rated as one of best young talents in world football. Soppy at Rennes is a young right back who is considered to have a bright future. Simakan at Strasbourg has played lots of first team football and has been linked with moves to bigger clubs such as Milan. Bade at Lens is getting spoken highly of and is certainly worth picking up for the price. Bakker, Ruiz-Atil and Muinga at PSG are must buys. They don't have a particularly big squad so will get chances to shine this season. FGS18, crvena_zvezda and Lowco 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kieran_S91 5,989 Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 8 hours ago, Lowco said: who's a must buy for you? 18 minutes ago, jaybee said: The players that I would say are must buys are as follows. Cho (Angers) - not many 16 year olds make their debut for first team Caqueret and Cherki are must buys. Caqueret looks like he is going to be a regular in first team and Cherki is rated as one of best young talents in world football. Soppy at Rennes is a young right back who is considered to have a bright future. Simakan at Strasbourg has played lots of first team football and has been linked with moves to bigger clubs such as Milan. Bade at Lens is getting spoken highly of and is certainly worth picking up for the price. Bakker, Ruiz-Atil and Muinga at PSG are must buys. They don't have a particularly big squad so will get chances to shine this season. Don’t mean to encroach on your thread Jaybee but I would certainly add Wesley Fofana and Pape Gueye. Gueye should get plenty of minutes at Marseille and could be 85/6 by the end of the season if not more, was brilliant against PSG. Fofana similar although he’s been linked with Milan and Leicester City. If Fofana does move though he will probably be in for a little rating bump too. Lowco, FGS18 and jaybee 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jaybee 763 Posted September 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Kierans91 said: Don’t mean to encroach on your thread Jaybee but I would certainly add Wesley Fofana and Pape Gueye. Gueye should get plenty of minutes at Marseille and could be 85/6 by the end of the season if not more, was brilliant against PSG. Fofana similar although he’s been linked with Milan and Leicester City. If Fofana does move though he will probably be in for a little rating bump too. I forgot Fofana even though I mentioned that earlier on in week about link with Leicester. I want others to get involved in thread so no problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kieran_S91 5,989 Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 1 hour ago, jaybee said: I forgot Fofana even though I mentioned that earlier on in week about link with Leicester. I want others to get involved in thread so no problem. Haha, yeah he’s been linked to Milan as well. I know Fofana really wants a big money move but unsure if Leicester are willing to meet the €29 million demand. Leicester are also interested in Tarkowski (I find unlikely, Burnley will want a hell of a lot) and Tah. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TMCosta 1,787 Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 Botman for me jaybee and Lowco 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jaybee 763 Posted September 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 25 minutes ago, Kierans91 said: Haha, yeah he’s been linked to Milan as well. I know Fofana really wants a big money move but unsure if Leicester are willing to meet the €29 million demand. Leicester are also interested in Tarkowski (I find unlikely, Burnley will want a hell of a lot) and Tah. Leicester should have plenty of money to spend with sales if Maguire and Chilwell over last few transfer windows. They might want someone more experienced though at centre back if they are to spend a decent transfer fee. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ombarcagunners 680 Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 18 hours ago, jaybee said: The players that I would say are must buys are as follows. Cho (Angers) - not many 16 year olds make their debut for first team Caqueret and Cherki are must buys. Caqueret looks like he is going to be a regular in first team and Cherki is rated as one of best young talents in world football. Soppy at Rennes is a young right back who is considered to have a bright future. Simakan at Strasbourg has played lots of first team football and has been linked with moves to bigger clubs such as Milan. Bade at Lens is getting spoken highly of and is certainly worth picking up for the price. Bakker, Ruiz-Atil and Muinga at PSG are must buys. They don't have a particularly big squad so will get chances to shine this season. CAMAVINGA is A MUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTT BBBBBBUUUUUUUUUYYYYYYYY!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thorgan lesar 2,651 Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 5 hours ago, ombarcagunners said: CAMAVINGA is A MUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTT BBBBBBUUUUUUUUUYYYYYYYY!!! Aw my ears.. I don't think Camavinga is available. All the managers in this game wants him. ombarcagunners 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jaybee 763 Posted September 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 On 8/28/2020 at 10:40 PM, jaybee said: Opening post updated to take in to account Lyon v Dijon game. Lyon left back Bard made his debut off the bench. He is only 19 so could be worth picking up. Bard started for Lyon last night. On 9/11/2020 at 4:58 PM, jaybee said: Bordeaux v Lyon tonight. Bordeaux have the talented midfielder Adli in squad for first time this season. He impressed last season. He missed opening game of the season. Maja should start I think. One to watch out for could be Sinaly Diomande who is in the squad. He is a defender and joined from Milan. He isn't on database yet. Bard, Caqueret and Cherki all in the squad. Cherki started too and Diomande who I mentioned before made his first appearance from the bench. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kieran_S91 5,989 Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Adrien Truffert (18) scored on his senior debut for Rennes tonight and what an important one it was! 2-1 - Adrien Truffert (90+2) Milanista1 and jaybee 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jaybee 763 Posted September 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 St Etienne remain top of the league and continue to give minutes to their young players - Moueffek, Macon, Youssouf and Aouchiche all started. Douath and Riviera came off the bench again and another youngster Sidibe made his first appearance off the bench. Douath is only 17 and has come off the bench three times so looks like a good buy once he is added to the database. Milanista1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soccahappy 8,412 Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 Previous tables on Pages 2. First Spreadsheet Update for France Please click on zoom to 125% or 150% and it's monster size and can be read Immediately. Left hand side of screen disappears entirely, great! Minutes will vary game by game and league position also helps a lot. Anything over 0% indicates likely riser, higher the better/safer. Negative percentages don't predict a drop just less chances of a rise. The more games played the more accurate the predictions will become. I am concentrating mainly on Younger under 89 rated players as these are more consistent risers and more profitable, Goal keepers are dealt with by SM in a completely different way, which is why I mostly also ignore Gk's Just thinking Jaybee perhaps it would look better if I coloured the young players (under 24) all yellow like Romain Faivre is above (I usually use the Yellow for just High percentage chances. What do U think? So it shows up the players you are most interested in. Also, I see at Dijon with 145 minutes a player on your data sheet u called Nounchil. Soccerway have the 145mins player as Ngouyamsa. Neither are searchable on SM?? Can u shed any light on this? Cheers Socca 😀 Spiller2020 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jaybee 763 Posted September 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Soccahappy said: Previous tables on Pages 2. First Spreadsheet Update for France Please click on zoom to 125% or 150% and it's monster size and can be read Immediately. Left hand side of screen disappears entirely, great! Minutes will vary game by game and league position also helps a lot. Anything over 0% indicates likely riser, higher the better/safer. Negative percentages don't predict a drop just less chances of a rise. The more games played the more accurate the predictions will become. I am concentrating mainly on Younger under 89 rated players as these are more consistent risers and more profitable, Goal keepers are dealt with by SM in a completely different way, which is why I mostly also ignore Gk's Just thinking Jaybee perhaps it would look better if I coloured the young players (under 24) all yellow like Romain Faivre is above (I usually use the Yellow for just High percentage chances. What do U think? So it shows up the players you are most interested in. Also, I see at Dijon with 145 minutes a player on your data sheet u called Nounchil. Soccerway have the 145mins player as Ngouyamsa. Neither are searchable on SM?? Can u shed any light on this? Cheers Socca 😀 Nice work Socca. I think a separate colour for players in opening post would maybe be handy but it's easy enough for me to track players anyway. Faivre got a rise to 77 recently which was +2 so will be interesting to see if he gets another +3. St Etienne are of particular interest as so many youngsters getting good game time. I've been trying to find that player on the database but can't see him at all. It's frustrating when different names are used. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jaybee 763 Posted September 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 An update to opening post to include more information including appearances, age and minutes played. I've made it so that it can be viewed on mobile devices. Player Club Rating New Rating Age Appearances Minutes Ait Nouri Angers 82 19 1 27 Ebosse Angers 78 21 2 86 Cho Angers 70 16 2 25 Adli Bordeaux 83 20 2 92 Zerkane Bordeaux 70 20 1 20 Maja Bordeaux 83 21 4 136 Chardonnet Brest 80 25 2 94 Diallo Brest 84 21 4 345 Mbock Brest 73 20 4 106 Faivre Brest 75 77 22 4 300 Nounchil Dijon n/a 19 2 145 Panzo Dijon 80 19 3 205 Dobre Dijon 70 22 2 32 Philippe Dijon 73 19 4 91 Ebimbe Dijon loan PSG 80 19 4 336 Younoussa Dijon 70 19 2 15 Chouiar Dijon 85 21 3 161 Bade Lens 73 20 3 270 Medina Lens 82 21 4 360 Doucoure Lens 82 20 4 325 Boura Lens 70 20 4 183 Ganago Lens 85 21 4 240 Botman Lille 83 20 4 360 Bradaric Lille 85 20 4 289 Soumare Lille 87 21 3 188 David Lille 88 20 4 292 Weah Lille 82 20 3 30 Mendes Lorient 76 22 4 352 la Fee Lorient 78 20 4 242 Boisgard Lorient 80 23 4 280 Chalobah Lorient 82 21 1 8 Diarra Lorient 80 21 4 95 Bard Lyon 73 19 3 123 Diomande Lyon not on DB 19 1 34 Caqueret Lyon 80 83 20 4 332 Cherki Lyon 78 17 4 128 Balerdi Marseille 80 21 2 135 Kamara Marseille 88 20 4 360 Ake Marseille 76 19 3 95 Gueye Marseille 82 21 3 88 Sabaly Metz 73 21 1 11 Yade Metz 73 20 3 40 Niane Metz 83 21 4 308 Badiashile Monaco 85 19 4 360 Fofana Monaco 85 21 3 226 Diop Monaco 80 20 4 299 Tchouameni Monaco 83 20 4 345 Geubbels Monaco 75 19 4 68 Pellegri Monaco 80 19 1 12 Cozza Montpellier 83 21 1 68 Benchama Montpellier n/a 20 1 2 Chotard Montpellier 82 18 4 128 Ndilu Nantes 76 20 2 25 Lafont Nantes 88 21 4 360 Mendy Nantes 70 20 1 29 Chirivella Nantes 82 23 4 360 Louza Nantes 85 21 2 137 Muani Nantes 75 21 3 236 Daniliuc Nice 70 19 1 25 Lotomba Nice 83 21 3 238 Bambu Nice 80 22 1 33 Pelmard Nice 80 20 4 337 Sylvestre Nice 76 21 4 96 Thuram Nice 80 19 4 249 Trouillet Nice 70 19 1 12 Gouiri Nice 76 80 20 4 297 Guessand Nice n/a 19 2 18 Ndoye Nice 78 19 4 75 Ahlinvi Nimes 21 1 31 Denkey Nimes 82 19 3 237 Benrahou Nimes/Bordeaux 82 21 3 181 Bulka PSG 76 20 1 90 Bakker PSG 76 20 3 159 Fadiga PSG not on DB 19 2 17 Ruiz-Atil PSG 70 18 1 68 Muinga PSG 70 18 1 74 Maresic Reims 83 20 3 212 Hornby Reims 77 20 2 22 Toure Reims 80 18 4 240 Boey Rennes 76 19 1 35 Soppy Rennes 70 18 3 159 Truffert Rennes 18 1 59 Camavinga Rennes 86 17 4 267 Gboho Rennes 77 19 2 5 Fofana St Etienne 82 19 3 270 Macon St Etienne 77 21 4 360 Aouchiche St Etienne 73 18 4 299 Douath St Etienne n/a 17 3 52 Moueffek St Etienne n/a 2 171 Youssouf St Etienne 83 21 3 109 Abi St Etienne 80 20 2 111 Rivera St Etienne 73 18 3 51 Sidibe St Etienne not on DB 18 1 10 Simakan Strasbourg 82 20 4 360 Id rather be in SW19 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soccahappy 8,412 Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 22 minutes ago, jaybee said: Nice work Socca. I think a separate colour for players in opening post would maybe be handy but it's easy enough for me to track players anyway. Faivre got a rise to 77 recently which was +2 so will be interesting to see if he gets another +3. St Etienne are of particular interest as so many youngsters getting good game time. I've been trying to find that player on the database but can't see him at all. It's frustrating when different names are used. Yes Indeed Re the extra +2 for Faivre, the next review of France should be December and he should get it then, if his rating is over 0%Line then. All players NOW are based on a very volatile situation ie someone who misses a 90mins or gains a 90mins will go down or up wildly til at least 10 games are played. Some more than others. Low rated players say a 70 will not be affected much, but higher rated say 85 it could send them down dramatically. It must be understood if SM "Random rise" any player now, then the spreadsheet will be wrong. It's only shown to show the path to a rise at Review time. In this case it's the BIG5 usually December, might be delayed til after Christmas this year I suppose, with the later starts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jaybee 763 Posted September 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, Soccahappy said: Yes Indeed Re the extra +2 for Faivre, the next review of France should be December and he should get it then if his rating is over 0%Line then. All players NOW are based on a very volatile situation ie someone who misses a 90mins or gains a 90mins will go down or up wildly til at least 10 games are played. Some more than others. Low rated players say a 70 wit will not effect much but higher rated say 85 it could send them down dramatically. It must be understood if SM Random rise any player now then the spreadsheet will be wrong. It's only shown to show the path to a rise at Review time. Can you make out that post above there? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soccahappy 8,412 Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 18 minutes ago, jaybee said: Can you make out that post above there? I see your data sheet?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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