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Van Der Wiel - £12 million - Ajax

Sneijder - £35 million - Inter Milan

Lukaku - £22 million - Anderlecht (+ loan back)

De Bruyne - £6 million - Genk (+ loan back)

Neymar - £40 million - Santos.

I really like Ivanovic and he offers quite a lot going forward. He scored a fair amount of goals last season' date=' and who knows, now Villas-Boas is here he might re-ignite Jose Bosingwa at right-back so I don't think that position is necessary.

I want us to sign a playmaker for the midfield = [b']Luka Modric[/b]. A forward who can play out wide and who would say no to Neymar anyway, then sign Lukaku, helps freshen up the team and set us for the future (don't loan him out however). Also, sign De Bruyne, again he's one for the future and is supposidly one of the best young midfielders in the World, then loan him back to Genk.

That's my opinion.

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And' date=' by spending that much, you then probably wouldn't be able to comply to UEFA's new financial restrictions, ruling you out of the Champions League. And we all know Roman wouldn't like that. ;)[/quote']

Maximum loss is £40 million + there will be a lot of players going. I expect us to sell off a lot of fringe players this summer which could potentially raise funds of close to £30 million. Plus there's apparantly lots of loop holes in it anyway :P.

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I really like Ivanovic and he offers quite a lot going forward. He scored a fair amount of goals last season' date=' and who knows, now Villas-Boas is here he might re-ignite Jose Bosingwa at right-back so I don't think that position is necessary.

I want us to sign a playmaker for the midfield = [b']Luka Modric[/b]. A forward who can play out wide and who would say no to Neymar anyway, then sign Lukaku, helps freshen up the team and set us for the future (don't loan him out however). Also, sign De Bruyne, again he's one for the future and is supposidly one of the best young midfielders in the World, then loan him back to Genk.

That's my opinion.

Van Der Wiel wants to go apparantly and i think he'd add some competition at RB with Ivanovic. He's not neccesary though, i just think if we offload Ferreira and Bosingwa then he could be a decent acquisition.

Imo a playmaker is defo the main priority, wouldn't mind Modric tbh.

I just wonder how much game time Lukaku will get. I do recken he'd be fine with being a backup for his first season though.

What about Falcao and Moutinho? Would you want them?

I'm undecided about these two, i rate them but i think they could create problems in regards to selections. Espceially with Falcao being a CF, it'd be difficult to squeeze him in amongst our current forwards.

Also Moutinho would have to replace someone, if he replaced Lampard it could create major problems in the dressing room.

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Also Moutinho would have to replace someone' date=' if he replaced Lampard it could create major problems in the dressing room.[/quote']

He could be used to replace Mikel. A 4-3-3 is a possibility, with Essien and Lampard the sure players pretty much. Ramires, Moutinho and Mikel can battle it out for the right for the last place or have to accept they are not good enough and play in cups and only a few league games.

Moutinho I don't think would cause problems-if he joins he will know he has Ramires and Mikel to compete with and if he isn't up to it then he can't really complain can he?

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I never said if it was difficult or not. I was just saying its pretty obvious he has to get the best out of one of the worlds best strikers when fit and on form.

So what if it was obvious?

Still a valid point' date=' and a reason which contributed to Ancelloti's departure.

A full pre season under him and he should be great.

You talk as if Torres is a toy LOL, anyway, no point in arguing now, we'll see at the start of the season if he does start to score.

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So what if it was obvious?

Still a valid point' date=' and a reason which contributed to Ancelloti's departure.

You talk as if Torres is a toy LOL, anyway, no point in arguing now, we'll see at the start of the season if he does start to score.[/quote']

I really don't see the logic behind this post.

1) my initial post was clearly said in Tongue and cheek and it is obvious he needs to get the best out of him.

2) I never said it wasn't a valid albeit stupendously obvious point.

3) please enlighten me to how I am referring to him as a toy ?

4) A full pre season with the new manager gives Torres weeks of preparation both physically , mentally and tactically to adapt to the new system that will be in place. If he stays clear of injuries during the summer and gets the correct preparation I have no doubts in my mind he will be back to some where near his prolific best.

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I really don't see the logic behind this post.

1) my initial post was clearly said in Tongue and cheek and it is obvious he needs to get the best out of him.

2) I never said it wasn't a valid albeit stupendously obvious point.

3) please enlighten me to how I am referring to him as a toy ?

4) A full pre season with the new manager gives Torres weeks of preparation both physically ' date=' mentally and tactically to adapt to the new system that will be in place. If he stays clear of injuries during the summer and gets the correct preparation I have no doubts in my mind he will be back to some where near his prolific best.[/quote']

What the logic behind this post? Where have i said it's not obvious?

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He could be used to replace Mikel. A 4-3-3 is a possibility' date=' with Essien and Lampard the sure players pretty much. Ramires, Moutinho and Mikel can battle it out for the right for the last place or have to accept they are not good enough and play in cups and only a few league games.

Moutinho I don't think would cause problems-if he joins he will know he has Ramires and Mikel to compete with and if he isn't up to it then he can't really complain can he?[/quote']

I'd choose Ramires over Mikel any day, imo he's a much better player now and has the potential to become a world class player if he keeps getting playing time. He really grew last season.

Ideally we'd want to rotate, like Man Utd do. They always rotate their midfielders and use different combinations, i'd like Chelsea to do the same however i'm not sure it would work as Man Utd players are used to it whilst Chelsea generally don't tend to change players around much unless because of injuries or lack of form.

Apparantly Falcao wants to join us and he'll be getting £5 million per year.

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I'd choose Ramires over Mikel any day' date=' imo he's a much better player now and has the potential to become a world class player if he keeps getting playing time. He really grew last season.

Ideally we'd want to rotate, like Man Utd do. They always rotate their midfielders and use different combinations, i'd like Chelsea to do the same however i'm not sure it would work as Man Utd players are used to it whilst Chelsea generally don't tend to change players around much unless because of injuries or lack of form.

Apparantly Falcao wants to join us and he'll be getting £5 million per year.[/quote']

Couldn't agree more, it inevitably did take Ramires time to settle, but i said before aswell he's a great player, he'll do what Mikel does, aswell make nice little runs in to the box, beautifully dynamic, to me though, i can't see Mikel in the picture, especially if Modric arrives.

More bad news for Torres if Falcao joins!!

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What the logic behind this post? Where have i said it's not obvious?

What ? You said it was still a valid point , something I never disputed nor did I say you said it wasn't obvious. I have no idea what your on about and please can you enlighten me to how i was talking about Torres as if he was a toy, last time I used a toy I can't remember giving it a pre season before the gruelling play time schedule began...

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Couldn't agree more' date=' it inevitably did take Ramires time to settle, but i said before aswell he's a great player, he'll do what Mikel does, aswell make nice little runs in to the box, beautifully dynamic, to me though, i can't see Mikel in the picture, especially if Modric arrives.

[b']More bad news for Torres if Falcao joins!![/b]

Not really. If Falcao arrives, then it will mean the end of the Chelsea career for Anelka.

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I dunno if anyone else watched the Copa de Lobertadores final last night.. well anyway Santos won 2-1 and Neymar scored. Then this happened after the final whistle...

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Absolutely massive brawl. Typical Brazilian football fight, all they seem to do is karate kick. Neymar was getting right involved.

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what ? You said it was still a valid point ' date=' something i never disputed nor did i say you said it wasn't obvious. I have no idea what your on about and please can you enlighten me to how i was talking about torres as if he was a toy, [b']last time i used a toy i can't remember giving it a pre season before the gruelling play time schedule began...[/b]

lmao....................

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Not really. If Falcao arrives' date=' then it will mean the end of the Chelsea career for Anelka.[/quote']

Anelka was in the side because he was happy to be used in a wide role if i remember correctly, Falcao is the complete opposite, he's a penalty box specialist, very similar to Torres and Drogba.

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Villas-Boas as promised to make Torres double the player he was last year :eek:.

I'm looking forward to seeing him score them two goals.

He scored 10 goals last season... I think you misread your source as he scored 10 not 1.

So yeah i too will be looking forward to him doubling his tally last season...to 20.

Couldn't agree more' date=' it inevitably did take Ramires time to settle, but i said before aswell he's a great player, he'll do what Mikel does, aswell make nice little runs in to the box, beautifully dynamic, to me though, i can't see Mikel in the picture, especially if Modric arrives.[/quote']

Mikel could be a decent player for some teams, i just think it's time he moved on. The one thing Mikel has got which Ramires hasn't is the long balls he plays, but other than that Ramires is far the suprior player.

Absolutely massive brawl. Typical Brazilian football fight, all they seem to do is karate kick. Neymar was getting right involved.

Thanks for the vid :D, i love fights like these :P saying that they are bad for the image of the game... reminds me a little of a fight i saw Maradona in.

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Anelka was in the side because he was happy to be used in a wide role if i remember correctly' date=' Falcao is the complete opposite, he's a penalty box specialist, very similar to Torres and Drogba.[/quote']

Anelka can play wide-that is true. And give good performances when he does. But under Scolari he did say that he moved from Bolton to play as a centre forward, not a winger. So whether the situation has changed and he will be happy playing as a winger or not I don't know.

Even if no new forwards arrive if Anelka wants as much playing time as possible he will accept a wing role since the CF spot has both Torres and Drogba fighting for it, with Sturridge potentially as well.

If they play 4-4-2 Sturridge could play in cups (a reasonable amount of appearances, he may be happy to stay and prove he can play for Chelsea when Drogba and Anelka get too old) with Anelka on the bench which would be acceptable I guess. United will have to bench a quality winger or two since Young has arrived, Jones arriving means a good CB won't make the bench-the intense competition is like that in all teams and Anelka may not react badly to being benched.

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Thanks for the vid :D' date=' i love fights like these :P saying that they are bad for the image of the game... [b']reminds me a little of a fight i saw Maradona in[/b].

Yeah that's the one I was thinking of when I was writing this... they all start jumping in kicking people and that, Maradona right in the thick of it all. :rolleyes::P

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Mikel could be a decent player for some teams' date=' i just think it's time he moved on. The one thing Mikel has got which Ramires hasn't is the long balls he plays, but other than that Ramires is far the suprior player.

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Different players though, no? Assuming Vilas Boas wants to use a holding midfielder in a similar role as he used Fernando last year at Porto then Mikel is your man. You're taking away some of Ramires' strongest assets by asking him to sit. He's a dynamic, box-to-box athlete, not a spoiling, breaker of play as Mikel tends to be.

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Different players though' date=' no? Assuming Vilas Boas wants to use a holding midfielder in a similar role as he used Fernando last year at Porto then Mikel is your man. You're taking away some of Ramires' strongest assets by asking him to sit. He's a dynamic, box-to-box athlete, not a spoiling, breaker of play as Mikel tends to be.[/quote']

Yup, my thoughts exactly.

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Different players though' date=' no? Assuming Vilas Boas wants to use a holding midfielder in a similar role as he used Fernando last year at Porto then Mikel is your man. You're taking away some of Ramires' strongest assets by asking him to sit. He's a dynamic, box-to-box athlete, not a spoiling, breaker of play as Mikel tends to be.[/quote']

When Ramires plays it's Essien who tends to be the player sitting more. I'd rather have Essien sitting than Mikel.

However, when Essien and Mikel play, you could argue it gives Essien more freedom as he isn't so restricted.

I'd rather play Essien and Ramires out of the three of them, you can't play all three as the midfield lacks creativity, they don't score enough goals and I think they're just a more dynamic partnership combined with Lampard.

Also i don't rate Mikel that highly as DM anyway.

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Different players though' date=' no? Assuming Vilas Boas wants to use a holding midfielder in a similar role as he used Fernando last year at Porto then Mikel is your man. You're taking away some of Ramires' strongest assets by asking him to sit. He's a dynamic, box-to-box athlete, not a spoiling, breaker of play as Mikel tends to be.[/quote']

Yes, agreed. They're totally different players. Ramires is more of an athlete, box-to-box midfielder who's got one hell of an engine on him. Then Mikel will sit there in DM, break down the play and make simples passes to the other midfielders so they can start an attack. Not keen on Mikel.

But if Villas-Boas did want to use a DM I'm 100% sure it would be Essien, not Mikel.

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Yes' date=' agreed. They're totally different players. Ramires is more of an athlete, box-to-box midfielder who's got one hell of an engine on him. Then Mikel will sit there in DM, break down the play and make simples passes to the other midfielders so they can start an attack. Not keen on Mikel.

But if Villas-Boas did want to use a DM I'm 100% sure it would be Essien, not Mikel.[/quote']

Unless he swaps Essien for Modric :P

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