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No way ' date=' Huntelaar has highlighted how over-rated Dutch league can be, when players are at free-scoring form doesn't mean they are good.

He will probably stay if he continues scoring 1 or 2 more goals, if he doesnt and is dropped, I see him dropping as well. Right now I believe he deserves to be drop 1.

Robben is the only one who is sure to rise along Higuain[/quote']

What are you chatting on about?

As a Centre Forward he's done exactly as required, 8 goals in 11 appearances, of which only 7 starts, is an excellent return! If he continues to score a 93 is certain.

On other Madrid players, Robben Higuain Gago an L Diarra are all due a rise. Higuain 2 for sure.

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Re: Torres+Gerrard's Portuguese and Spanish Rating Reports!

No way ' date=' Huntelaar has highlighted how over-rated Dutch league can be, when players are at free-scoring form doesn't mean they are good.

He will probably stay if he continues scoring 1 or 2 more goals, if he doesnt and is dropped, I see him dropping as well. Right now I believe he deserves to be drop 1.

Robben is the only one who is sure to rise along Higuain[/quote']

This is a perfect example of how ridiculous some forumer's are. Like a few other members stated, if the league is so poor, then how come he has cross over his from from one league to another. Your argument would hold water if Huntelaar would have 1 or 2 goals, but 8 in 7 starts :confused:. He is surely in for a rise. While I'd give both Lass and Gago a 92, Robben a 93 (he has cooled down, and I have come to reason :D), and Higuain to 92.

PS Cannavaro should stay, although Vidic should rise.

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I am yet to see Mallorca and racing Sanatder so will not attempt to predict their ratings. if anyone wants to help then i will post the predictions on the fron page.

Mallorca Team:

MOYA, Miguel Ángel 88

LUX, Germán 86

ENRIQUE CORRALES , Martín 87

JAVIER DORADO, Bielsa 80

JOSEMI, Miguel 86

HECTOR, Berenguel 82

NUNES, José 90

DAVID NAVARRO, Pedrós 88

IVAN RAMIS, Barrios 86

ARANGO, Juan 91

VARELA, Fernando 89

ALBERTO LOPEZ, Arteseros 72

CLÉBER SANTANA, Loureiro 88

MARTI, Josep Lluís 87

GONZALO CASTRO, Irizabal 85

MARIO SUAREZ, Mata 84

JURADO, José Manuel 88

CALLEJON, Juanmi 74

ARITZ ADURIZ, Zubeldia 87

CARLITOS, Iván Lorenzo Pérez 76

KEITA, Alhassane 87

WEBO, Pierre 87

TREJO, Oscar 83

NACHO CASANOVA, Díaz 77

I will post the Racing Santander team shortly.

Thanks in advance.

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Any thoughts on Baba (75) at Maritimo ? Second leading scorer in the league behind Nenê. Easily the best player on the team this year. Is a +10 out of the question this ratings change (when the rest of the starting XI average 85) ?

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I want to defend your thead - as much as anything else it's got a debate going. And looking at all the different opinions - I think it's fair to say we wouldn't all agree no matter who'd started the thead - so well done for starting and taking the flack!!! Personally I am more interested in Portugal, but I do have an Altletico Madrid team in a GC so I was interested in that. Just a query - are ratings (by SM I mean) based soley on stats are on someone's opinion on 'form'? Because using the latter would be very subjective, no? Or is it a combination of the two? Anyone know?

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I hope to finish the Spanish first division this weekend- but no guarantee.

I will then start the portuguese ratings. I also think that ratings are based on how well the player is performing in real life and is not affected by how well the are doing in SM. Also mentioning people on the forum will not make them rise.

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I also think that ratings are based on how well the player is performing in real life and is not affected by how well the are doing in SM.

You only THINK that, if you doing a ratings thread then you should KNOW what effectsa rating.

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Re: Torres+Gerrard's Portuguese and Spanish Rating Reports!

He is the eagerly anticipated Portugal Ratings:

Red= Rating Decrease followed by number will drop by.

Black= Rating will stay the same in the upcoming changes.

Green= Rating Increase followed by number will rise by.

Portuguese First Division:

Porto

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HELTON, Arruda 90 ----> 90

NUNO, Espírito Santo 83 ----> 83

HUGO VENTURA, Ferreira 73 ----> 73

FUCILE, Jorge 90 +1 91 ----> 90

LINO, Alves 86 ----> 86

BENITEZ, Nélson 85 ----> 85

SAPUNARU, Christian 87 ----> 88

BRUNO ALVES, Eduardo 92 ----> 92

PEDRO EMANUEL, Martins 89 ----> 88

STEPANOV, Milan 87 -1 86 ----> 86

ROLANDO, Jorge 87 +2 89 ---->

CRISTIAN RODRIGUEZ, Gabriel 89 ----> 90

COSTA, Tomás 86 +1 87 ----> 87

LUCHO GONZALEZ 93 -1 92 ----> 93

RAUL MEIRELES 91 ----> 91

FERNANDO, Francisco 86 +2 88 ----> 89

GUARIN, Freddy 85 ----> 85

PELE, Vítor 83 ----> 83

Aly Cissoko 82 +4 86 ----> 86

BOLATTI, Mário 86 - 1 85 ----> 85

MARIANO GONZALEZ, Nicolas 87 ----> 88

LISANDRO, López 92 ----> 92

SEKTIOUI, Tarik 89 -1 88 ----> 87

FARIAS, Ernesto 88 -1 87 ----> 88

CANDEIAS, Daniel 80 +2 82 ----> 80

RABIOLA, Tiago 74 ----> 74

ADRIANO, Vieira 86 -1 85 ---->85

HULK, Givanildo Vieira 85 +3 88 ----> 88

Benfica

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QUIM, Manuel 90 -1 89

MARCELO MORETTO, de Souza 86 -2 84

MOREIRA, José - Gk 83 +3 86

JORGE RIBEIRO, Miguel 89

LÉO, Lourenço 88

LUISÃO, Ânderson 90

DAVID LUIZ, Moreira 86

SIDNEI, Rechel 85 +2 87

ZORO, Marco 85

MIGUEL VITOR, Angelo 80 +2 82

MAXI PEREIRA, Victorio 89

JAVIER BALBOA, Ángel 86

CARLOS MARTINS, Jorge 88

RÚBEN AMORIM, Filipe 87

YEBDA, Hassan 87 +2 89

KATSOURANIS, Costas 90 +1 91

BINYA, Gilles 85

FELLIPE BASTOS, Ramos 78 +2 80

AIMAR, Pablo 91 -1 90

REYES, José Antonio 89 +1 90

DI MARIA, Ángel 88

MANTORRAS, Pedro 83

URRETAVIZCAYA, Jonathan 84

SUAZO, David 91 -1 90

OSCAR CARDOZO, René 90 -1 89

NUNO GOMES, Miguel 89

MAKUKULA, Ariza 87 -1 86

Sporting Lisbon

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RUI PATRICIO, Pedro 87

STOJKOVIC, Vladimir 86 -2 84

TIAGO, Alexandre 80 +2 82

BATISTA, Ricardo 74 +2 76

RONNY, Heberson 87 -1 86

GRIMI, Leandro 87

ABEL, Fernando 88

PEDRO SILVA, Alves 83 +1 84

ANDERSON POLGA, Correa 90

TONEL, Nogueira 89 +1 90

DANIEL CARRIÇO, Filipe 75 +8 83

CANEIRA, Marco 89 -1 88

BRUNO PEREIRINHA, Alexandre 85

VUKCEVIC, Simon 89 -2 87

JOAO MOUTINHO, Filipe 91

ROCHEMBACK, Fabio 87 +1 88

MIGUEL VELOSO, Luís 91 -1 90

ADRIEN SILVA, Sebastian 80

ROMAGNOLI, Leandro 89

IZMAILOV, Marat 88

LIEDSON, da Silva Muniz 91

HELDER POSTIGA, Manuel 88

YANNICK, Djalo 87

RODRIGO TIUÍ, Bonifácio 86

DERLEI, Fernandes 87

NACIONAL DA MADEIRA

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RAFAEL BRACALI, Wihby 83 +5 88

ALONSO, Ferreira 86

NUNO PINTO, Miguel 80

IGOR PITA, Carlos 73 +6 79

PATACAS, Bruno 86

MARCO AIROSA, Ibraim 80 +2 82

HALLICHE, Rafik 80 +3 83

CEDROLA, Fernando 80

MAICON, Pereira Roque 80 +6 86

FELIPE LOPES, Aliste 80 +4 84

EDSON SITTA, Feliciano 84

BRUNO AMARO, Sousa 83

LUÍS ALBERTO, Silva 82 +4 86

JULIANO, Mineiro 78

RUBEN MICAEL, Freitas 73 +5 78

CLEBER MONTEIRO, Oliveira 85

JUNINHO, César Arcanjo 84

RAFAEL, Bastos 82 +2 84

MATEUS, Galiano 85

MIGUEL FIDALGO, Nuno 77 +3 80

COP, Duje 77

NENE, Miguel 86 +1 87

FABIANO OLIVEIRA, Monteiro 81 +2 83

Sporting Braga

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EDUARDO, dos Reis 87 +1 88

KIESZSEK, Pawel 82

DANI MALLO, Castro 80

MARIO FELGUEIRAS, Jorge 79

EVALDO, Dos Santos 86

EDIMAR, Curitiba 76

JOÃO PEREIRA, Pedro 87 +1 88

FILIPE OLIVEIRA, Vilaça 84

ALBERTO RODRIGUEZ, Junior 87

PAULO JORGE, Soares 86 -2 84

MOISES, Moura 84 +1 85

ANDRE LEONE, Augusto 83

CESAR PEIXOTO, Paulo 86

VANDINHO, Almeida – CM – 85 > 85

BRUNO TIAGO, Fernandes 82

STÉLVIO, Rosa 78 +4 82

FRECHAUT, Nuno 87

JORGINHO, Luiz 86 -1 85

MADRID, Andrés 86 -2 84

LUIS AGUIAR, Bernardo 86 +2 88

MARCIO MOSSORÓ, José 85

ALAN, Osório 87

MATHEUS, Leite 85

PAULO CESAR, Rocha 83

ORLANDO SÁ, Carlos 70 +7 77

LINZ, Roland 87 -1 86

RENTERIA, Wason 87

Naval

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PEISER, Romauld 85

JORGE BAPTISTA, Carlos 80

IGOR, Miguel Castro 77 +2 79

CARLITOS, Pereira 79 +5 84

TIAGO RANNOW, Silva 75 +3 78

PAULÃO, Afonso 84

DIEGO ANGELO, Oliveira 83

FABRICIO, Lopes Alcantra 77

JOAO RIBEIRO, Rocha 82

GODEMÈCHE, Nicolas 82

GILMAR, Lobato 82

LAZARONI, Bruno 80 +2 82

BARADJI, Sékou 77 +2 79

DAVIDE, Alexandre 83 +1 84

DUDU, Carlos 80 +1 81

SAULO, Rodrigues 84 -2 82

HAUW, Alexandre 83

MARINHO, Rui Correia 82+1 83

MARCELINHO, Oliveira 85

MICHEL SIMPLíCIO , Rosseto 75 +2 77

BOLIVIA, Edvaldo 75

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Re: Torres+Gerrard's Portuguese and Spanish Rating Reports!

He is the eagerly anticipated Portugal Ratings:

Red= Rating Decrease followed by number will drop by.

Black= Rating will stay the same in the upcoming changes.

Green= Rating Increase followed by number will rise by.

Portuguese First Division:

Porto

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HELTON' date=' Arruda [b']90[/b]

NUNO, Espírito Santo 83

HUGO VENTURA, Ferreira 73

FUCILE, Jorge 90 +1 91

LINO, Alves 86

BENITEZ, Nélson 85

SAPUNARU, Christian 87

BRUNO ALVES, Eduardo 92

PEDRO EMANUEL, Martins 89

STEPANOV, Milan 87 -1 86

ROLANDO, Jorge 87 +2 89

CRISTIAN RODRIGUEZ, Gabriel 89

COSTA, Tomás 86 +1 87

LUCHO GONZALEZ 93 -1 92

RAUL MEIRELES 91

FERNANDO, Francisco 86 +2 88

GUARIN, Freddy 85

PELE, Vítor 83

BOLATTI, Mário 86 - 1 85

MARIANO GONZALEZ, Nicolas 87

LISANDRO, López 92

SEKTIOUI, Tarik 89 -1 88

FARIAS, Ernesto 88 -1 87

CANDEIAS, Daniel 80 +2 82

RABIOLA, Tiago 74

ADRIANO, Vieira 86 -1 85

HULK, Givanildo Vieira 85 +3 88

No mention of Cissoko who played 13 times for Setubal and twice in the UEFA cup for them, is now Porto's first choice left back, playing 8 league and 2 Champions league games :confused: rise from 82 to 85/86 for me.

Can you tell me why you don't even have Christian Rodriguez for a borderline 89/90? He is first choice on Porto's left, featured in all their CL games, has 6 league goals to his name and from what I have read and seen myself looks a decent player :confused:

There's probably more I could point out from the rest, but those two are sticking to mind.

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No mention of Cissoko who played 13 times for Setubal and twice in the UEFA cup for them' date=' is now Porto's first choice left back, playing 8 league and 2 Champions league games :confused: rise from 82 to 85/86 for me.

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ooh i forgot about him. i will add him. thanks mate. do you want to predict the racing santander's team and mallorca as im yet to watch them and prob wont.

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ooh i forgot about him. i will add him. thanks mate. do you want to predict the racing santander's team and mallorca as im yet to watch them and prob wont.

It's no problem mate, wasn't digging at you for it, more to help others :) (Rodriguez does need to be borderline 89/90 though ;)

As for the ratings for those two...I only generally comment on what I know about, so I feel that having not seen much of either, particuarly in a big league like Spain, i'd not want to give anyone ratings that could be slightly out.:(

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Re: Torres+Gerrard's Portuguese and Spanish Rating Reports!

Malaga

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Iñaki GOITIA 84

Francesc ARNAU 84

Duarte JESUS GAMEZ 85 +1 86

Haro MANOLO GASPAR 83 -1 82

Robson WELIGTON 86 -1 85

Manuel Ortiz LOLO 85

Miguel HELDER ROSARIO 85

Iván CUADRADO 84

Sergio DUDA 87

Santamaría NACHO PEREZ 86

Javier CALLEJA 85 +1 86

Adriano FABIANO ROSSATO 85 +1 86

José Manuel CHELI GONZALEZ 84

Paulino PABLO DE BARROS 83

Castelló PERE MARTI 83

Lozano MIGUEL ANGEL 86 -1 85

Antonio APONO GALDEANO 85

Miguel FERNANDO ESCRIBANO 86 -2 84

Pereira ELISEU 85 +2 87

López Álvarez ADRIÁN 85 +1 86

Nabil BAHA 85 +2 87

Ferreira ADRIANO 84 -2 82

Ballesta SALVA 85

José Juan LUQUE 85 -1 84

Most of these I would agree with however there are 2 I disagree with. Duda has been playing fantastically and fully warrants a +1 to 88. As has Apono and i can see him rising to 86/87. I would be inclined to say Arnau should rise +1 but i'm not sure if SM will.

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Re: Torres+Gerrard's Portuguese and Spanish Rating Reports!

Gosh, all over again... Do you guys even rate Porto as a team? I mean, a drop for Lucho, are you serious? He has scored more goals this season than in any other, is playing as well as in the previous ones, has caps for Argentina (not exactly a weak NT...) and even scored a goal last week (Argentina lost, but still...). Then why the hell is everyone saying he will drop? He should be a freakin 94 in the first place!!! No rises for Meireles or Bruno Alves, both followed by top clubs in Europe and performing amazingly well both for the club and NT? Rodriguez STAYING? ARRRRRRGHHHHH. I feel so frustrated. I mean, just look at At. Madrid ratings and Porto ratings then look at the "football bath" (like we say in Portugal) we gave them in both legs of the CL and you´ll understand what I mean. Ruben Micael rises 5? Followed by Arsenal (Porto has nearly guareented him though), considered the best player in Nacional after the goalscorer Nene, has played for Portugal B and rises by just 5? I mean, really... Man, I hate stats. And the problem is that SM will probably do just like you. :(:mad:

And why do you put Lino in Porto when he doesn´t even play here? I´m going to cry...:(

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